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A29530 An answer to a book, entituled, Reason and authority, or, The motives of a late Protestant's reconciliation to the Catholick Church together with a brief account of Augustine the monk, and conversion of the English : in a letter to a friend. Bainbrigg, Thomas, 1636-1703. 1687 (1687) Wing B473; ESTC R12971 67,547 99

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be_v add_v at_o least_o three_o more_o and_o all_o alike_o ecumenical_a for_o all_o the_o distinction_n that_o labbè_n make_v without_o any_o reason_n be_v but_o to_o salve_v the_o credit_n of_o the_o former_a collector_n 3._o the_o matter_n of_o some_o of_o they_o be_v of_o no_o great_a concern_v this_o may_v be_v presume_v because_o the_o best_a copy_n of_o their_o act_n and_o canon_n lay_v by_o the_o wall_n so_o long_o for_o they_o be_v not_o well_o understand_v till_o the_o curiosity_n and_o industry_n of_o baluzius_n and_o some_o other_o late_o bring_v they_o to_o light_v 437._o petrus_n de_fw-fr marca_n de_fw-fr concordia_fw-la sacerdotii_fw-la &_o imperii_fw-la tom._n 2._o p._n 431_o &_o 435_o &_o 437._o this_o appear_v by_o baluzius_n in_o the_o book_n of_o petrus_n de_fw-fr marca_n and_o by_o compare_v of_o binnius_n his_o council_n with_o those_o of_o labbè_n 4._o most_o of_o they_o be_v convene_v for_o ill_a purpose_n to_o advance_v the_o papal_a power_n and_o to_o lessen_v 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