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A85243 Festered consciences new launced: or, tith-paying defended against William Westup and Thomas Puckle Penned by way of an epistle to every one, who had rather disburden his purse then burden his conscience. By Hierophilus, a young fencer. Havighurst, Johannes, b. 1701. 1650 (1650) Wing F828; ESTC R229586 22,857 29

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know it is the tricke of all errours and their maintainers ●ever to looke backe to that which is written against them but to bring 〈◊〉 their owne opinions as new lights that were never heard of afore when they have beene afore extinguished and buried is the grave of silence this makes me to desire these new Doctors to lay aside once more the Awle and Hammer and to take upon them to answer those two Authors afore-mentioned that so J may receive conviction from them in that which their owne reasons leave me wholly unsatisfied in regard of their proofelesse denyals and affirmations as J doubt not but with Gods assistance to demonstrate to any rationall man or Consciences either that are not already seared with an hot yron Their first Argument runs thus Whatsoever was appointed by God for the maintenance of the Leviticall Priest-hood only is wholly unlawfull to bee payd by any for the maintenance of Gospell-Ministers But Tithes were appointed of God for the maintenance of the Leviticall Priest-hood only Therefore it is unlawfull to pay them to Gospell-Ministers Their first or major Proposition they prove out of Hebrewes 7.12 and Heb. 10.8 Which though it be but ill proved yet J may grant that without giving them an inch in their dispute Their Assumption they proue out of Deut 14.22 to the end of the Chapter which in my mind doe not at all prove their assertion and they might have brought other places more sutable to their purpose they that wade in the waters of the Temple ought to have their feet better shod with the preparation of the Gospell of peace for in all those verses there is no particular command of God for the payment of Tithes to the Levites nay the party himselfe is injoyned to bring his Tithes to the place that God shall chuse to set his name in either in kind or else in mony if distance of place should make the paying in kind too tedious and there to bestow it for whatsoever his soule desireth and to rejoice with his houshold and also the Levite and in the latter end of the chapter he gaue a command not only to call in the Levite but the stranger and the fatherlesse and the widow that they may also eate and be satisfied and how this proves their Position that Tithes were appointed to the maintenance of the Leviticall Priesthood only J leave it to the world to judge and more judiciall expositors to determine yet J will grant them that Tithes were assigned to the Leviticall Priest-hood saving this one-ly out for it was the practice of Godly men afore Levy ever was borne or the Leviticall Priesthood under which the people received the law Heb. 7.11 that they plead to be abolished was appointed for Levy payd tithes in the loynes of Abraham Heb. 7.9 and if it was the practice of Abraham who is the father of the Faithfull and without doubt did doe nothing but what was of Faith their Consciences need not to be troubled with such a qualme nor their purses with such a gift of Continency as they plead for But further J would be willing they would cleare that place in the fore-mentioned chapter to the Hebrewes and the eight verse where the Apostle seemeth to distinguish betwixt the Leviticall assignation of Tithes and the perpetuity of them as due to one that liveth in these words and here men that dye receive tithes but there he receiveth them of whom it is witnessed that he liveth you may see it further applyed in Carleton The second argument why these Gentiles or Heathens cannot pay tithes may be framed into a syllogisme after this manner All types and shadowes of Christ the truth and substance ought to be abolished But tithes are a tipe and shadow of Christ the truth and substance Therefore Tithes ought to be abolished Both propositions of this Syllogisme may be denyed and therefore their consequence is altogether invalid yet they will not want Scripture to cite though not to prove the Devill could quote that yet nothing to the purpose all their places not one whit mentioning Tithes but carnall rites and ordinances Heb. 9.10 And thus farre J agree with them that such tipes and Shadowes ought not to be used ●n the service of God longer then the time of reformation yet J thinke those things that were Tipes may he used in a civill use because the Arke was a tipe shall we therefore have no Shipping Because the sleying of Buls and Goates were tipes shall the Butchers ●ade therefore fall But to speak to their Assumption they say tithes ●re a tipe of Christ but they tell us not what they signfie The Author to the Hebrewes argues more rationally in the two Chapters ●o the Hebrewes cited by them and if Tithes be a patterne of heaven●y things they must needs figure something this kind of arguing ●uts me in mind of limming in its infancy Pictures then having so litle forme or fiigure of the Creatures they should represent that they were forced to write underneath them this is a Dog this is a Lyon even so doe they tell us Tithes are a tipe of Christ but in what or how we may goe seeke Having thus layd down their argument they leave it with an expostulation and heere they shew the seame both in the inside and outside the malice of their hearts now breakes forth and though they have gone downe to the Philistimes to grinde their tooles yet they are not so sharp but they may be blunted They now bring us in a distinction by head and shoulders when as they have nothing at all treated of one member afore to wit the judiciall Law which if thou acknowledge Tithing to have its power it Battereth downe all their arguments unlesse they will give no power to the Magistrate in matters judiciall but J conceive this absurdity ariseth either from the Printing or else their Ignorance for Judaicall was the word they meant But they would know of the Ministers why they call themselves the tribe of Levi May they not as well quarrell with the Apostle for calling Beleevers the seed of Abraham Rom. 4.12 17. It followes not therefore that they were Jewes or circumcised no more doe their argument hold that Ministers are really the tribe of Levi Christ cals himself a Dore a Vine his body Bread his bloud reall Wine Is he therefore a reall doore and a reall vine or his body reall bread and his bloud reall wine they argue well for the Papists to prove Transubstantiation that will not allow of an Allegory or Metaphoricall expression In the next place they stumble upon the Church which they have not much troubled a long time and because they understand not the originall they are puzled what name to give it they wanted the knowledge a Metonimy to have cleered this to them that the continent is often put for the thing contained and so è contra J would wish them to study Rhetorick afore they make any