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reason_n now_o any_o protestant_a child_n can_v have_v tell_v he_o though_o perhaps_o he_o will_v take_v it_o more_o kind_o from_o the_o catholic_a 41._o catholic_a part_n 2._o cap._n 6._o pag._n 41._o representer_n that_o the_o mysterye_n of_o faith_n be_v above_o reason_n not_o contrary_a to_o it_o a_o little_a far_o nihil_fw-la magis_fw-la incredibile_fw-la say_v calvin_n therefore_o say_v the_o author_n not_o this_o more_o incredible_a that_o idem_fw-la corpus_fw-la etc._n etc._n away_o you_o wagg_n what_o thrice_o in_o one_o paragraph_n §_o 20._o n._n 3._o dr._n â—4_n disc_n 1._o §_o 20._o n._n 3_o p_o â—4_n taylor_n be_v quote_v say_v that_o if_o transubstantiation_n be_v plain_o reveal_v he_o will_v burn_v all_o his_o argument_n against_o it_o and_o believe_v it_o without_o more_o ado_n and_o so_o say_v i_o too_o
author_n practice_n in_o such_o case_n nor_o shall_v i_o much_o insist_v upon_o that_o passage_n that_o christ_n humanity_n abstractive_o consider_v be_v adorable_a with_o a_o worship_n not_o exceed_v that_o due_a to_o a_o creature_n ibid._n ibid._n for_o we_o be_v not_o now_o talk_v of_o inferior_a adoration_n but_o supreme_a divine_a worship_n we_o know_v that_o adorare_fw-la be_v by_o some_o take_v for_o manum_fw-la ori_fw-la admovere_fw-la to_o kiss_v the_o hand_n or_o any_o thing_n else_o in_o token_n of_o respect_n which_o as_o some_o papist_n will_v persuade_v we_o be_v all_o they_o do_v to_o their_o image_n but_o it_o be_v certain_o foppery_n if_o it_o be_v no_o worse_o to_o do_v so_o to_o any_o thing_n but_o a_o intelligent_a be_v beside_o we_o know_v it_o be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d a_o lucian_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ceremony_n of_o the_o heathen_a idolatry_n and_o job_n be_v of_o opinion_n ibid._n ibid._n that_o if_o he_o have_v use_v it_o to_o the_o sun_n in_o which_o our_o author_n new_o instanced_a it_o have_v be_v a_o iniquity_n to_o be_v punish_v by_o the_o judge_n for_o he_o shall_v have_v deny_v the_o god_n that_o be_v above_o job_n xxxi_o 26.27.28_o in_o the_o five_o section_n he_o tell_v we_o that_o protestant_n 1._o disc_n ii_o pag._n 2._o §_o 5._o n._n 1._o of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n especial_o grant_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v real_o present_a in_o the_o eucharist_n not_o in_o virtue_n only_o but_o in_o substance_n and_o that_o this_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n which_o be_v not_o sever_v from_o his_o person_n be_v then_o to_o be_v worship_v with_o supreme_a adoration_n this_o we_o likewise_o grant_v he_o as_o we_o have_v already_o explain_v it_o according_a to_o the_o mind_n of_o those_o protestant_n and_o so_o pass_v over_o the_o quotation_n which_o take_v up_o the_o two_o next_o section_n together_o with_o abundance_n of_o advantage_n that_o a_o adversary_n may_v take_v for_o we_o be_v now_o in_o pursuit_n of_o a_o argument_n that_o be_v in_o some_o danger_n to_o be_v lose_v in_o this_o mist_n of_o quotation_n these_o be_v all_o the_o concession_n wherein_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v concern_v and_o therefore_o we_o may_v pass_v over_o the_o two_o next_o which_o i_o can_v imagine_v to_o what_o purpose_n he_o mention_n 7._o disc_n ii_o pag_n 10._o §_o 7._o for_o though_o the_o lutheran_n grant_v as_o some_o not_o all_o of_o they_o do_v that_o during_o the_o action_n of_o the_o eucharist_n christ_n body_n be_v to_o be_v adore_v as_o by_o consubstantiation_n present_a to_o the_o consecrate_a symbol_n i_o see_v not_o what_o advantage_n this_o concession_n give_v to_o his_o cause_n or_o how_o it_o be_v any_o way_n prejudicial_a to_o we_o for_o the_o lutheran_n hold_v a_o local_a presence_n wherefore_o some_o of_o they_o think_v they_o may_v adore_v and_o if_o we_o can_v believe_v their_o presence_n we_o shall_v not_o contest_v their_o adoration_n 11._o ibid_fw-la p._n 11._o to_o as_o little_a purpose_n do_v he_o press_v we_o with_o mounseur_fw-fr daille_n concession_n for_o if_o he_o grant_v more_o than_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v she_o be_v not_o bind_v to_o defend_v he_o though_o in_o this_o case_n i_o think_v he_o do_v not_o and_o so_o we_o may_v safe_o join_v with_o he_o in_o his_o concession_n for_o the_o reason_n why_o we_o can_v communicate_v with_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v not_o bare_o because_o she_o hold_v a_o error_n but_o because_o she_o propose_v it_o under_o a_o anathema_n and_o ground_n a_o idolatrous_a practice_n upon_o it_o and_o require_v our_o consent_n to_o both_o these_o thing_n as_o a_o term_n of_o her_o communion_n this_o the_o lutheran_n do_v not_o and_o therefore_o though_o their_o opinion_n be_v erroneous_a their_o communion_n need_v not_o be_v unlawful_a now_o to_o see_v with_o what_o judgement_n the_o defender_n make_v use_v of_o this_o concession_n he_o be_v to_o prove_v that_o protestant_n by_o their_o own_o rule_n ought_v to_o join_v in_o the_o popish_a adoration_n and_o his_o argument_n be_v that_o mons_fw-la daillè_fw-la say_v we_o can_v communicate_v with_o the_o papist_n as_o long_a as_o they_o impose_v their_o adoration_n though_o otherwise_o we_o may_v if_o they_o only_o believe_v erroneous_o and_o keep_v their_o error_n to_o themselves_o 12._o ibid._n p._n 12._o once_o more_o this_o judicious_a author_n appeal_v to_o m._n daillè_fw-la who_o believe_v as_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v that_o to_o worship_n any_o host_n be_v idolatry_n yet_o grant_v if_o the_o case_n be_v otherwise_o and_o if_o a_o consecrate_a host_n be_v true_o adorable_a it_o be_v possible_a to_o adore_v one_o that_o be_v not_o consecrate_a without_o commit_v formal_a idolatry_n likewise_o he_o and_o dr._n stillingfleet_n grant_v that_o when_o christ_n be_v upon_o earth_n where_o his_o person_n be_v confess_o adorable_a a_o man_n that_o by_o inculpable_a mistake_n have_v adore_v another_o person_n for_o he_o may_v have_v likewise_o be_v absolve_v from_o the_o guilt_n of_o formal_a idolatry_n and_o both_o these_o concession_n be_v as_o certain_o true_a as_o certan_o allege_v to_o no_o purpose_n but_o perhaps_o the_o author_n mean_v the_o reason_n only_o not_o the_o instance_n to_o be_v pertinent_a and_o will_v infer_v no_o more_o but_o that_o papist_n by_o our_o own_o concession_n may_v be_v no_o idolater_n though_o they_o worship_v a_o creature_n because_o they_o may_v do_v this_o by_o a_o inculpable_a mistake_n this_o i_o grant_v may_v be_v something_o not_o to_o his_o but_o to_o the_o papist_n purpose_n if_o he_o prove_v they_o inculpable_o mistake_v but_o that_o we_o shall_v suppose_v they_o so_o i_o can_v see_v why_o he_o shall_v pretend_v for_o he_o know_v that_o we_o think_v transubstantiation_n to_o be_v more_o than_o a_o mistake_n a_o flat_a and_o manifest_a defiance_n of_o sense_n and_o reason_n scripture_n and_o tradition_n and_o in_o that_o respect_n more_o culpable_a than_o the_o gross_a heathen_a mistake_n for_o they_o to_o mention_v no_o other_o disparity_n want_v the_o light_n of_o scripture_n which_o the_o papist_n have_v and_o shut_v their_o eye_n against_o and_o this_o in_o our_o opinion_n make_v a_o vast_a difference_n between_o the_o popish_a and_o heathen_a idolatry_n chap._n viii_o a_o reply_n to_o the_o six_o next_o section_n of_o the_o second_o discourse_n beginning_n at_o §._o 9_o so_o much_o for_o the_o protestant_a concession_n the_o defender_n in_o the_o six_o next_o section_n pretend_v to_o lay_v down_o catholic_a assertion_n which_o i_o doubt_v will_v be_v no_o more_o allow_v by_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n than_o his_o protestant_a concession_n be_v by_o the_o church_n of_o england_n first_o he_o tell_v we_o thaâ—_n catholic_o affirm_v there_o be_v in_o the_o eucharist_n after_o consecration_n a_o sign_n distinct_a and_o have_v a_o divers_a existence_n from_o the_o thing_n signify_v 9_o disc_n ii_o pag._n 13._o §._o 9_o whence_o he_o conclude_v that_o dr._n stillingfleet_n do_v they_o wrong_n when_o he_o say_v they_o grant_v the_o sign_n to_o be_v hypostatical_o unite_v to_o the_o thing_n signify_v a_o sign_n there_o must_v be_v say_v his_o own_o quotation_n out_o of_o bellarmin_n or_o there_o can_v be_v no_o sacrament_n wherefore_o we_o presume_v they_o hold_v a_o sign_n but_o then_o the_o sign_n as_o they_o explain_v it_o be_v neither_o the_o sign_n institute_v by_o christ_n which_o doubless_a a_o sacramental_a sign_n ought_v to_o be_v nor_o indeed_o any_o other_o sign_n but_o a_o sign_n that_o signify_v nothing_o then_o for_o the_o separate_a existence_n of_o it_o some_o papist_n do_v not_o hold_v that_o neither_o as_o the_o author_n can_v not_o but_o see_v in_o that_o very_a place_n of_o dr_n taylor_n which_o he_o refer_v to_o in_o this_o section_n which_o make_v it_o somewhat_o strange_a that_o so_o liberal_a a_o quoter_n shall_v here_o be_v so_o unreasonable_o spare_v as_o not_o to_o afford_v we_o one_o testimony_n that_o express_o own_v this_o separate_a existence_n but_o all_o papist_n that_o will_v talk_v consistent_o must_v deny_v it_o not_o only_o because_o a_o accident_n can_v exist_v without_o inherence_n but_o because_o they_o hold_v the_o species_n unite_v to_o the_o body_n to_o make_v one_o entire_a object_n of_o adoration_n which_o can_v be_v without_o a_o hypostatical_a union_n wherefore_o bellarmin_n and_o valentia_n though_o they_o do_v not_o use_v the_o term_n hypostatical_o yet_o find_v themselves_o oblige_v to_o say_v the_o thing_n and_o explain_v the_o union_n of_o the_o species_n to_o the_o body_n in_o the_o same_o manner_n as_o they_o do_v the_o hypostatical_a union_n valentia_n indeed_o be_v so_o much_o a_o jesuit_n as_o have_v say_v the_o thing_n to_o deny_v the_o word_n but_o bellarmin_n be_v more_o consider_v and_o this_o be_v all_o that_o excellent_a person_n say_v
to_o allow_v a_o great_a sin_n we_o will_v not_o only_o suffer_v but_o advise_v he_o to_o talk_v improper_o and_o singular_o that_o so_o his_o language_n may_v the_o better_o correspond_v with_o his_o notion_n chap._n ix_o a_o reply_n to_o the_o nine_o next_o section_n of_o the_o second_o discourse_n beginning_n at_o §._o 15._o hitherto_o the_o author_n have_v be_v range_v in_o the_o fifteen_o section_n he_o seem_v to_o make_v a_o set_n 19_o disc_n 2._o pag._n 19_o he_o deny_v that_o the_o protestant_n give_v a_o true_a state_n of_o the_o question_n and_o his_o instance_n be_v in_o dr._n stillingfleet_n who_o his_o evil_a genius_n ever_o prompt_v he_o to_o attack_v notwithstanding_o his_o brisk_v attempt_n so_o constant_o &_o scandalous_o miscarry_v to_o he_o he_o join_v bishop_n andrews_n and_o bishop_n taylor_n who_o word_n if_o they_o be_v pertinent_o apply_v here_o be_v so_o disingenuous_o quote_v in_o other_o part_n of_o this_o pamphlet_n that_o i_o doubt_v the_o author_n deal_v will_v amount_v to_o a_o very_a improper_a expression_n but_o if_o protestant_n state_n the_o question_n wrong_v let_v we_o hear_v how_o this_o author_n himself_o state_v it_o he_o reduce_v the_o whole_a controversy_n to_o these_o two_o question_n 1._o 20._o ibid._n p._n 20._o whither_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n prescind_v from_o whatever_o symbol_n be_v or_o may_v be_v there_o be_v adorable_a as_o be_v present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n with_o the_o symbol_n 2_o lie_v whither_o the_o adoration_n of_o christ_n body_n and_o so_o of_o christ_n as_o present_v if_o it_o shall_v not_o be_v so_o will_v amount_v to_o idolatry_n always_o suppose_v as_o he_o add_v in_o the_o 17_o the_o section_n that_o we_o continue_v to_o adore_v the_o self_n same_o object_n as_o the_o papist_n now_o do_v in_o the_o self_n same_o place_n 21._o pag_n 21._o with_o all_o the_o same_o circumstance_n wherewith_o their_o adoration_n be_v now_o perform_v to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o i_o can_v take_v it_o upon_o this_o author_n word_n that_o pope_n and_o council_n with_o the_o most_o and_o best_a of_o the_o romish_a writer_n have_v so_o abandon_v all_o common_a sense_n and_o ingenuity_n as_o to_o say_v and_o practice_n what_o they_o have_v do_v if_o they_o real_o mean_v no_o more_o than_o he_o pretend_v for_o this_o be_v a_o improper_a expression_n with_o a_o witness_n a_o insincerity_n that_o a_o honest_a heathen_a will_v tremble_v at_o nor_o if_o one_o or_o two_o schoolman_n be_v real_o of_o his_o mind_n shall_v he_o that_o in_o the_o guide_n be_v so_o great_a a_o stickler_n for_o majority_n here_o propose_v the_o opinion_n of_o a_o few_o forlorn_a member_n for_o the_o stand_a judgement_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n the_o true_a son_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v more_o ingenuous_a and_o own_o that_o they_o believe_v the_o species_n together_o with_o the_o body_n to_o make_v one_o entire_a object_n to_o which_o they_o pay_v one_o entire_a act_n of_o adoration_n for_o the_o truth_n of_o this_o together_o with_o a_o full_a state_n and_o decision_n of_o this_o question_n i_o refer_v the_o reader_n to_o a_o reprint_v a_o print_a at_o london_n 1685._o for_o brab_n ailmer_n and_o late_o reprint_v late_a excellent_a discourse_n concern_v the_o adoration_n of_o the_o host_n for_o it_o be_v not_o my_o present_a business_n to_o dispute_v with_o honest_a mind_a papist_n who_o error_n i_o hearty_o lament_v and_o beseech_v god_n to_o open_v their_o eye_n but_o with_o this_o shuffle_a writer_n who_o be_v indeed_o of_o no_o church_n will_v fain_o pin_v himself_o now_o upon_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n this_o say_v he_o be_v affirm_v by_o catholic_n more_o than_o this_o need_v not_o be_v so_o and_o again_o 16._o disc_n 2._o pag_n 20._o l._n 7._o ibid_fw-la l._n 2_o disc_n 2._o pag._n 16._o the_o roman_a church_n own_v or_o impose_v no_o more_o so_o likewise_o §_o 13._o the_o definition_n of_o this_o council_n in_o the_o six_o canon_n more_o than_o which_o be_v not_o require_v to_o be_v profess_v by_o any_o son_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v this_o si_fw-mi quis_fw-la dixerit_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v as_o be_v declare_v more_o at_o large_a in_o the_o five_o discourse_n of_o the_o guide_n the_o stress_n of_o all_o lie_v upon_o si_fw-la quis_fw-la dixerit_fw-la &_o si_fw-la quis_fw-la negaverit_fw-la 133._o §._o 186._o p._n 133._o so_o that_o if_o a_o man_n be_v but_o a_o little_a complaisant_a in_o his_o practice_n and_o keep_v a_o good_a tongue_n in_o his_o head_n let_v he_o be_v what_o he_o will_v in_o his_o heart_n he_o may_v still_o be_v one_o of_o this_o author_n be_v catholic_o though_o i_o doubt_v none_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n for_o though_o the_o great_a sin_n be_v with_o he_o but_o improper_a expression_n yet_o all_o honest_a man_n of_o the_o roman_a or_o any_o other_o communion_n will_v call_v his_o deal_n by_o a_o proper_a expression_n which_o i_o do_v not_o now_o care_v to_o name_n wherefore_o the_o controversy_n between_o we_o and_o this_o author_n for_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v no_o way_n concern_v in_o his_o dream_n be_v brief_o this_o whether_o prescind_v from_o transubstantiation_n and_o a_o corporal_a presence_n and_o allow_v only_o a_o real_a presence_n as_o the_o writer_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n do_v it_o be_v idolatry_n to_o pay_v the_o self_n same_o adoration_n with_o the_o self_n same_o ceremony_n to_o the_o self_n same_o object_n in_o the_o self_n same_o place_n and_o manner_n that_o the_o papist_n now_o pay_v it_o to_o the_o consecrate_a element_n to_o this_o i_o answer_v affirmative_o and_o hope_v i_o have_v already_o reply_n already_o chap._n 7._o par_fw-fr 2._o of_o this_o reply_n give_v a_o good_a and_o sufficient_a reason_n why_o i_o do_v so_o it_o remain_v that_o i_o examine_v what_o the_o author_n have_v to_o say_v for_o the_o negative_a first_o he_o say_v those_o protestant_n who_o absolve_v the_o lutheran_n from_o idolatry_n 19_o disc_n 2._o §._o 19_o may_v as_o he_o have_v state_v the_o matter_n as_o well_o absolve_v his_o catholic_n to_o which_o i_o be_o not_o concern_v to_o answer_v though_o it_o be_v false_a and_o easy_o confutable_a because_o his_o own_o state_n exclude_v the_o consideration_n both_o of_o a_o popish_a and_o lutheran_n presence_n as_o far_o as_o either_o of_o they_o differ_v from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n real_a presence_n come_v we_o therefore_o 2_o lie_n to_o the_o twenty_o first_o section_n where_o he_o suppose_v both_o papist_n and_o lutheran_n in_o a_o error_n both_o mistake_a christ_n the_o true_a object_n of_o supreme_a adoration_n to_o be_v in_o a_o place_n where_o he_o be_v not_o 25._o ibid._n p._n 25._o he_o shall_v add_v and_o the_o papist_n upon_o that_o mistake_n adore_v a_o object_n that_o be_v not_o at_o all_o adorable_a now_o this_o he_o say_v can_v be_v term_v any_o such_o idolatry_n as_o be_v the_o worship_n of_o a_o object_n not_o at_o all_o adorable_a such_o or_o not_o such_o be_v not_o proper_o the_o question_n but_o whether_o it_o be_v idolatry_n wherefore_o i_o pass_v by_o his_o impertinent_a trifle_n with_o his_o angel_n and_o his_o serpent_n for_o the_o argument_n he_o shall_v answer_v be_v this_o the_o israelite_n and_o manichees_n who_o direct_v the_o outward_a act_n of_o adoration_n to_o a_o creature_n be_v account_v idolater_n by_o god_n and_o the_o primitive_a church_n notwithstanding_o their_o own_o suppose_n or_o the_o author_n be_v suppose_v for_o they_o and_o we_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n say_v that_o whoever_o pay_v the_o adoration_n aforesaid_a to_o the_o consecrate_a element_n let_v he_o suppose_v what_o he_o will_v will_v for_o all_o his_o supposition_n commit_v a_o improper_a expression_n which_o god_n and_o the_o church_n will_v account_v idolatry_n his_o three_o assertion_n must_v be_v take_v in_o piece_n 22._o disc_n 2._o pag._n 26._o §._o 22._o he_o say_v whatever_o fault_n or_o idolatry_n it_o may_v be_v in_o a_o manichee_n to_o worship_n the_o sun_n or_o a_o israelite_n the_o calf_n yet_o etc._n etc._n where_o i_o wonder_v he_o talk_v so_o mince_o whatever_o fault_n and_o may_v be_v when_o st._n paul_n 1_o cor._n x._o 7_o be_v peremptory_a that_o the_o worshipper_n of_o the_o calf_n be_v idolater_n ibid._n ibid._n he_o say_v his_o catholic_o free_o grant_v that_o a_o good_a intention_n ground_v upon_o culpable_a ignorance_n can_v excuse_v none_o from_o idolatry_n we_o accept_v this_o concession_n and_o desire_n to_o know_v if_o popish_a ignorance_n be_v not_o culpable_a how_o it_o be_v possible_a any_o ignorance_n shall_v 3._o he_o say_v that_o mons_fw-la ibid._n ibid._n daillé_n and_o he_o suppose_v other_o protestant_n with_o he_o allow_v that_o a_o ground_n or_o motive_n of_o adoration_n which_o be_v reasonable_a though_o not_o absolute_o certain_a but_o actual_o