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pope_n &_o martyr_n anno_fw-la 121._o epist_n 1_o ad_fw-la omnes_fw-la orthodoxos_fw-la which_o be_v to_o be_v see_v in_o the_o council_n of_o tribury_n cap._n 19_o s._n clement_n three_o pope_n after_o s._n peter_n epist_n 3._o anno_fw-la 111._o s._n ignatius_n the_o apostle_n scholar_n epist_n ad_fw-la smyrnenses_n all_o which_o holy_a man_n do_v name_v the_o word_n mass_n proper_o and_o in_o that_o same_o sense_n that_o the_o catholic_n at_o this_o day_n do_v use_v yet_o for_o all_o this_o forsooth_o our_o adversary_n will_v make_v the_o world_n believe_v that_o the_o word_n mass_n be_v a_o word_n new_o invent_v &_o not_o find_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n but_o they_o deal_v with_o we_o in_o this_o as_o in_o many_o other_o thing_n which_o must_v proceed_v either_o of_o malice_n or_o of_o gross_a ignorance_n the_o twelve_o of_o our_o witness_n be_v s._n hierome_n who_o live_v in_o the_o same_o time_n that_o s._n austin_n do_v ao._n 430._o he_o be_v general_o hold_v of_o our_o 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pag._n 20._o affirm_v that_o in_o the_o very_a apostle_n time_n this_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o many_o man_n now_o therefore_o may_v it_o vouch_v safe_a your_o wisdom_n to_o consider_v due_o this_o priority_n of_o our_o possession_n and_o successive_a continuance_n of_o this_o our_o cath._n doctrine_n deduce_v from_o the_o apostle_n time_n even_o our_o enemy_n be_v judge_n and_o take_v heed_n of_o that_o say_n of_o s._n aug._n in_o no_o &_o vet_z test_n quaest_a no._n heretic_n say_v he_o do_v trouble_n &_o break_v the_o order_n of_o succeed_a bishop_n begin_v by_o s._n petr._n and_o bring_v down_o by_o offspring_n one_o bishop_n succeed_v another_o and_o so_o challenge_v unto_o themselves_o a_o certain_a order_n with_o out_o beginning_n section_n vi_o of_o praescription_n if_o praescription_n itself_o whereof_o no_o memory_n occur_v to_o the_o contrary_a be_v a_o matter_n of_o any_o importance_n with_o your_o honour_n right_a grave_n &_o learned_a judge_n you_o shall_v then_o here_o 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no_o dukedom_n or_o earldom_n continue_v light_o 3._o or_o 4._o generation_n together_o in_o any_o one_o name_n or_o family_n as_o may_v be_v easy_o see_v in_o camden_n story_n where_o he_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o recount_v the_o earl_n &_o duke_n that_o have_v their_o state_n &_o title_n over_o such_o a_o shire_n but_o as_o for_o matter_n of_o religion_n almighty_a god_n have_v give_v another_o manner_n of_o force_n unto_o succession_n both_o of_o man_n &_o faith_n as_o for_o example_n in_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n he_o make_v thesame_a to_o endure_v by_o only_a tradition_n without_o writing_n for_o more_o than_o 2500._o year_n under_o the_o ancient_a patriarch_n before_o &_o after_o the_o flood_n of_o noe._n and_o afterward_o again_o in_o the_o write_a law_n the_o jew_n continue_v the_o possession_n of_o their_o religion_n by_o succession_n of_o bishop_n and_o ecclesiastical_a governor_n from_o moses_n unto_o christ_n above_o 1500._o year_n not_o withstand_v of_o all_o the_o variety_n of_o time_n &_o calamity_n and_o no_o less_o from_o christ_n to_o our_o age_n have_v he_o continue_v the_o same_o in_o a_o much_o more_o gracious_a sort_n &_o manner_n notwithstanding_o so_o many_o mutation_n both_o in_o the_o roman_a empire_n &_o all_o other_o realm_n &_o kingdom_n &_o yet_o ever_o have_v succession_n of_o pastor_n &_o union_n of_o faith_n remain_v first_o therefore_o our_o adversary_n will_v not_o stick_v upon_o the_o first_o 100_o year_n which_o reach_v to_o s._n gregory_n time_n but_o will_v grant_v unto_o we_o that_o the_o mass_n &_o catholic_a priesthood_n be_v a_o general_a doctrine_n throughout_o the_o whole_a world_n 105._o pow._n pag_n 105._o so_o mr._n powell_n in_o his_o consideration_n of_o the_o papish_a reason_n i_o grant_v say_v he_o that_o from_o the_o year_n of_o christ_n 605._o the_o professant_a company_n of_o popery_n have_v be_v very_o visible_a &_o perspicuous_a 307._o perk._n pa._n 307._o mr._n perkins_n in_o his_o