Selected quad for the lemma: blood_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
blood_n body_n bread_n consecration_n 9,959 5 11.0641 5 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A81435 A dialogue betwixt three travellers, as accidentally they did meet on the high-way: Crucy Cringe, a papist, Accepted Weighall, a professor of the Church of England, and Factious Wrest-writ, a Brownist. Wherein the errours of the papists and the Brownists are discussed, and themselves reconciled to the Church of England. 1641 (1641) Wing D1358; Thomason E160_7; ESTC R23036 3,423 9

There is 1 snippet containing the selected quad. | View lemmatised text

A DIALOGUE BETWIXT THREE TRAVELLERS as accidentally they did meet on the High-way CRVCY CRINGE a Papist ACCEPTED WEIGH ALL a Professour of the Church of England and FACTIOVS WREST-WRIT a Brownist Wherein the errours of the Papists and the Brownists are discussed and themselves reconciled to the Church of England Printed in the yeare 1641. A Dialogue Betwixt three Travellers as accidentally they did meet on the High-way Crucy Cringe a Papist Accepted Weighall a Professour of the Church of England and Factious Wrest-Writ a Brownist Crucy WEll met well met Master Wrest-Writ you are such an eager man Do you remember Sir the conference we had when we last encountred almost in this very place Doe you still pursue your errours with that wilfull heat Factious Out of my sight thou Idolater prophanesse hangs in a mist about thee that thou maist commit thy deeds of darknesse with the Whore of Babilon with more securenesse Crucy Not so hasty Master Wrest-Wright a good cause should be disputed with good words and confirmed with reasons not with passions Factious Down Dagon down I hate thee Cringe I hate thee and thy late disputed doctrine of the reall presence in the Sacrament worse than the lawne Reeves of the Prelates which are but meer rags of Rome and fit onely for tinder for the Tinder-box of Tophet but goe to M●ster Cringe because society is the injunction of nature and good discourse they say doth make a hor●e that trots seeme to amble proceed in your last argument and I promise you both silence and attention Crucy If you will be patient I will The doctrine then of the reall presence in the Eucharist Factious The Eucharist I can forbeare the argument no longer there is no such word to be read in all the Scripture Crucy Very frequently Sir in the Greek originall Factious Talk not to me of Greek I will beleeve no Greek it is a language that shall carry no authority with me I hope to see Greek and Latine too ere it be long in lesse reputation than they are Crucy I doe not like this fury E'en God be with you and grant your zeale more knowledge and your knowledge more humility Factious Nay but hark you Master Cringe hark you one word look you here Master Accepted Weighall Come as wisht for Accepted How have you done this long time How doe you Master Crucy Sir I heartily salute you Crucy I returne your salutation with the like testimony of good will and true affect on you intervene an happy Vmpire we two were e'en a falling out and a falling off too Factious Verily Master Weighall the words of truth being not in his lips I was about to separate and to leave him to the fogs of his superstitious ignorance I must beseech you having so happily met with your better company that we may abandon him Accept Why so Sir Although I am a Professour of true and Orthodox Religion I am not of the separation I would be neither a Trojan nor Tyrian it fares with Religion as with Vertue she must preserve her selfe entire betwixt two extreames and the safest way to truth is the middle way I would be neither learnedly superstirious nor obstinately ignorant but to the point which you were so hot in disputation of Factious Sir when last Master Cringe and I encountred we held a controversie concerning the reall presence in the Sacrament which Master Cringe beleeveth to be truly corporall and in adoration bowes unto it Crucy Sir I beleeve the Sacrament to be a greater mystery then peradventure you conceive it and not a meere Love-feast as idly enough you are pleased to fancy it I dare affirme that the great worke of mans Redemption is no where more perfectly to be discovered Nec tam praesentes alibi cognoscere Divos Factious Sir you are in your Latine I will have Latine againe to answer you I assure you I take it to be a Commemoration per fidem onely in remembrance of our Saviours sufferings on whom we feed with the eye of faith Crucy That cannot be Master Wrest-Writ the words are positive and punctuall This is my Body and will admit of no other interpretation Factious The words that follow that text doe as plainly and punctually interpret the words precedent Doe this in remembrance of me which implies a direct absence of the party for what needs a remembrance when the person is present and in this I referre my selfe to Master Weighall You affirmed besides at our last meeting that you did feed in the Sacrament upon the very body of Christ indeed Crucy I feed in the Sacrament on the very Body and Bloud of Christ the elements of Bread and Wine being transubstantiated into his Body Factious This is most horrible impiety How is this transubstantiation when is it begun when is it finished answer me to that Master Cringe Crucy Immediately after the words of the consecration Factious That cannot be for the Metaphysicks as I have heard Schollers say will not allow that the substance should be altered and the accidents remaine that the Bread and Wine should be converted into the very Body and Bloud of Christ yet the colour and taste of the Bread and Wine which are their accidents should still continue neither will Divinity ever agree that the Bread which after consecration you say is turned into the Body of Christ should suffer afterwards corruption and moulder away as we see it doth Crucy We feed I say in the Sacrament on the very Body of Christ but how not as we feed on butchers meat bought in the shambles but it being received with all reverence and prepared humility after a divine and spirituall manner and whatsoever you are pleased to say to to the contrary of us beleeve me there is no Catholick but is of the same opinion with me Factious That you doe to avoid some dangerous absurdities which would consequently arise should you affirme that in a fleshly manner you eat in the Sacrament the very flesh of our Saviour for then by the same argument should the blessed Virgin the mother of our Saviour feed in the Sacrament on the flesh of her owne son and then again as often as in the time of Leat you receive the Communion you should as often offend against the order of the Church which doth command that there should in Lent no meat be eaten Besides I understand how crosse it is to reason and Philosophy that one Body should at one and the same time move in severall places Crucy Wonders are no wonders in wonderfull subjects I beleeve as the Church beleeveth which doth informe me that the Body of our Saviour is assisted alwayes with the Divinity of our Saviour and in this as Master Wrest-Writ did before I referre my selfe to you Master Weighall Factious With all my heart and if we shall continue in our journey and travell one way together as in this so in all controverted points betwixt us I shall referre my selfe to your advice Master Weighall Weighall I have not the desire nor yet the ability to goe thorow with so great a taske but since it is the inclination of truth to communicate herselfe and through all my life I have made it my labour to enquire her out I will as neare as I can first state the question aright and then determine it I beleeve we ought not to make our approaches to the blessed Sacrament with that overweening familiarity as the sawcy Brownists nor yet with such a devout superstition as the abused Papists That the Bread and wine in the Sacrament should be transubstantiated into the Body of Christ cannot be admitted into the faith of any sober man without admitting with it many grosse and grievous errours for besides that it is but a meere invention of latter times it is diametrically opposite to reason and nature and God himselfe who oftentimes doth work above nature doth never work against it The elevation of the Host by the Papists savours of rank idolatry and the unmannerly sitting of the Brownists at the Communion of irreverence A decent and humble posture is most requisite especially where God is pleased to communicate himselfe to be really and more peculiarly present It is no lukewarmenesse no neutrality to keepe safe between both your errours but a grounded knowledge and uprightnesse And I assure my selfe if you would well weigh with how much safety between both rockes the Truth doth passe by unship-wrackt how secure and cleare shee is discovered you would then make hast to disembogue and make up unto her who indeed is the Center of all sublunary happinesse where alone we may finde peace with confidence Errours in the Church result out of too unruly an heat or too thick and too grave a Superstition either while we violently are lead by our own ungoverned humours or while blinded with pompe or with the shadowes of Antiquitie with a willing reverence wee are drawne unto Idolatry Too much Ceremony and an affected pompe hath begot much Superstition in the Sacrament amongst the Papists Too carelesse a presumption hath begot much irreverence in the Sacrament amongst the Anabaptists The mean betwixt both is the fate and happy way attended with a persevering care not to decline either to the one or to the other either to the right hand or to the left Crucy I thanke you for your good counsels and shall endeavour to embrace them Factious And I shall acknowledge my selfe to be much improved by you which doth embolden me to propound one question more and that is concerning the Originall and the Institution of Bishops Accept I should with much content lend care to your Conference but see the Towne is neare and within the full view of our eye we will therefore for this day repose our minds as well as bodyes and refer the discourse untill the Morning FINIS