Selected quad for the lemma: blood_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
blood_n	body_n	bread_n	consecration_n	9,959	5	11.0641	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A07529	Papisto-mastix, or The protestants religion defended Shewing briefely when the great compound heresie of poperie first sprange; how it grew peece by peece till Antichrist was disclosed; how it hath been consumed by the breath of Gods mouth: and when it shall be cut downe and withered. By William Middleton Bachelor of Diuinitie, and minister of Hardwicke in Cambridge-shire.	Middleton, William, d. 1613.	1606 (1606)	STC 17913; ESTC S112681	172,602	222

no_o more_o hurt_v we_o then_o sacrificium_fw-la mensae_fw-la sacrifice_n of_o the_o table_n do_v hurt_v he_o and_o sacrificium_fw-la incruentum_fw-la sacrifice_n unbloody_a hurt_v he_o and_o not_o we_o for_o the_o popish_a sacrifice_n wherein_o blood_n be_v real_o offer_v by_o bouleful_n and_o drink_v up_o by_o the_o priest_n if_o not_o by_o the_o people_n can_v hardly_o bear_v the_o name_n of_o a_o unbloody_a sacrifice_n without_o some_o charitable_a gloss_n or_o interpretation_n if_o the_o father_n shall_v call_v it_o the_o unfleshly_a sacrifice_n i_o think_v it_o will_v do_v his_o carnal_a presence_n little_a good_a and_o therefore_o i_o can_v see_v how_o the_o term_n unbloody_a can_v great_o further_o he_o yet_o see_v how_o this_o fond_a papist_n prattle_v one_o as_o though_o these_o term_n sacrifice_n altar_n and_o unbloody_a be_v equivalent_a with_o transubstantiation_n they_o can_v not_o use_v the_o word_n transubstantiation_n because_o it_o be_v not_o devise_v before_o the_o council_n of_o lateran_n a_o worthy_a devise_n no_o doubt_n if_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v make_v of_o baker_n bread_n for_o transubstantiation_n be_v a_o turn_n of_o one_o substance_n into_o another_o but_o if_o the_o bread_n vanish_v to_o nothing_o and_o then_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n come_v into_o the_o void_a room_n which_o the_o bread_n leave_v behind_o it_o as_o the_o papist_n hold_v at_o this_o day_n then_o must_v the_o word_n transubstantiation_n give_v place_n too_o as_o well_o as_o the_o bread_n and_o cessio_fw-la or_o or_o substitutio_fw-la give_v place_n succession_n substitute_v or_o some_o such_o new_a devise_n or_o other_o must_v succeed_v it_o howbeit_o the_o old_a father_n want_v no_o word_n to_o utter_v their_o mind_n they_o be_v as_o well_o able_a to_o speak_v i_o trow_v as_o pope_n innocent_a and_o the_o priest_n of_o lateran_n but_o though_o nothing_o else_o be_v commendable_a in_o this_o lateran_n devise_n yet_o may_v we_o see_v by_o it_o that_o it_o be_v devise_v only_o for_o the_o latin_a church_n for_o transubstantiatio_fw-la be_v latin_a and_o such_o latin_a as_o can_v be_v handsome_o express_v in_o the_o greek_a tongue_n and_o the_o last_o session_n of_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n hold_v two_o hundred_o year_n after_o this_o of_o laterane_n give_v we_o to_o understand_v that_o the_o greek_a church_n never_o yield_v to_o transubstantiation_n &_o touch_v the_o vanish_v away_o of_o the_o bread_n and_o substitution_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n i_o think_v when_o i_o consider_v of_o it_o i_o hear_v old_a nakefield_n tell_v how_o he_o come_v to_o a_o wild_a colt_n that_o lie_v fast_o a_o sleep_n in_o the_o field_n and_o be_v merry_o dispose_v cut_v a_o round_a hole_n in_o the_o forehead_n of_o it_o like_o prima_fw-la tonsura_fw-la clericatus_fw-la the_o first_o shave_v of_o a_o clerk_n and_o then_o blow_v his_o horn_n in_o the_o ear_n of_o the_o colt_n so_o as_o it_o start_v up_o sudden_o and_o plunge_v out_o at_o that_o hole_n and_o leave_v his_o kin_n behind_o he_o even_o so_o the_o popish_a priest_n find_v bread_n a_o sleep_n upon_o the_o altar_n blow_v the_o horn_n of_o consecration_n in_o the_o ear_n of_o it_o and_o make_v it_o skip_v out_o at_o some_o hole_n or_o other_o and_o leave_v his_o accident_n behind_o it_o marry_v herein_o our_o good_a catholic_n go_v beyond_o nakefield_n for_o he_o will_v go_v no_o further_o to_o tell_v that_o the_o colt_n skin_n stand_v still_o as_o plump_a as_o it_o do_v before_o though_o the_o stuff_n be_v run_v away_o but_o these_o man_n make_v we_o believe_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n creep_v in_o at_o the_o hole_n the_o bread_n go_v out_o and_o so_o fill_v the_o vacuity_n of_o the_o room_n that_o the_o accident_n or_o skin_n of_o the_o bread_n remain_v still_o as_o well_o stuff_v as_o it_o be_v before_o without_o corrupt_v or_o shrink_v or_o any_o alteration_n in_o the_o world_n so_o as_o in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o their_o altar_n man_n shall_v see_v round_a thing_n yet_o nothing_o be_v round_o a_o white_a thing_n yet_o nothing_o be_v white_a a_o thick_a thing_n yet_o nothing_o be_v thick_a a_o heavy_a thing_n yet_o nothing_o be_v heavy_a a_o lump_n of_o accident_n yet_o nothing_o denominate_v round_o white_a thick_a heavy_a or_o any_o thing_n else_o by_o any_o one_o of_o they_o all_o blame_v i_o if_o these_o man_n pass_v not_o wakefield_n by_o many_o degree_n they_o say_v that_o after_o consecration_n it_o be_v the_o real_a body_n of_o christ_n yet_o if_o you_o break_v it_o you_o break_v not_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n if_o you_o bite_v it_o you_o bite_v not_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o which_o be_v most_o absurd_a you_o may_v eat_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n but_o you_o may_v neither_o bite_v nor_o crush_v nor_o grind_v it_o with_o your_o tooth_n all_o this_o may_v be_v see_v in_o peter_n lumbards_n sententious_a distinction_n 12._o lib._n 4._o do_v 12._o est_fw-la ibi_fw-la vera_fw-la fractio_fw-la &_o partitio_fw-la say_v he_o quae_fw-la fit_a in_o pane_n id_fw-la est_fw-la in_fw-la forma_fw-la panis_fw-la unde_fw-la apostolus_fw-la ait_fw-la panis_fw-la quem_fw-la frangimus_fw-la quia_fw-la forma_fw-la panis_fw-la ibi_fw-la frangitur_fw-la &_o in_o part_n dividitur_fw-la it_o be_v true_a break_n &_o part_v which_o be_v do_v in_o the_o bread_n that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n whereupon_o the_o apostle_n say_v the_o bread_n which_o we_o break_v because_o the_o form_n of_o bread_n be_v there_o break_a and_o divide_v in_o part_n see_v the_o impudency_n of_o these_o man_n that_o dare_v say_v that_o be_v not_o break_v which_o paul_n say_v be_v break_v nay_o which_o say_v that_o be_v break_v which_o can_v be_v break_v for_o to_o say_v accident_n and_o show_n be_v break_v and_o eat_v with_o tooth_n be_v too_o great_a frowardness_n and_o this_o do_v my_o friend_n peter_n see_v well_o enough_o and_o therefore_o he_o entreat_v we_o not_o to_o think_v much_o of_o the_o matter_n 10.16_o 1._o cor._n 10.16_o say_v ne_o mireris_fw-la vel_fw-la insult_v si_fw-la accidentia_fw-la videantur_fw-la frangi_fw-la cum_fw-la ibi_fw-la sint_fw-la sine_fw-la subiecto_fw-la wonder_v not_o nor_o insult_v not_o if_o the_o accident_n seem_v there_o to_o be_v break_v see_v they_o be_v there_o without_o their_o subject_n well_o we_o be_v content_a to_o pleasure_v you_o in_o so_o small_a a_o matter_n but_o when_o you_o make_v saint_n paul_n to_o say_v that_o break_a accident_n be_v the_o communication_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n i_o wish_v you_o have_v be_v better_o advise_v but_o howsoever_o you_o rid_v your_o hand_n of_o we_o yet_o pope_n leo_n the_o nine_o and_o victor_n his_o successor_n and_o pope_n nicholas_n the_o second_o and_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o several_a counsel_n gather_v together_o at_o vercel_n turon_n and_o rome_n almost_o a_o hundred_o year_n before_o you_o be_v bear_v or_o your_o sentence_n write_v will_v not_o be_v so_o easy_o shift_v of_o for_o leo_n and_o victor_n condemn_v berengarius_fw-la and_o pope_n nicholas_n at_o length_n compel_v he_o violent_o to_o recant_v under_o this_o form_n of_o word_n ego_fw-la berengarius_fw-la confiteor_fw-la panem_fw-la &_o vinum_fw-la quae_fw-la in_o altari_fw-la ponuntur_fw-la post_fw-la consecrationem_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la verum_fw-la corpus_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la christi_fw-la esse_fw-la &_o sensualiter_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la sub_fw-la sacramento_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o veritate_fw-la manibus_fw-la sacerdotum_fw-la tractari_fw-la &_o frangi_fw-la &_o fidelium_fw-la dentibus_fw-la atteri_fw-la i_o berengarius_fw-la do_v confess_v that_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n which_o be_v lay_v upon_o the_o altar_n be_v not_o only_o a_o sacrament_n but_o the_o very_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o they_o be_v sensible_o handle_v by_o the_o priest_n and_o break_a and_o tear_v with_o the_o tooth_n of_o the_o faithful_a not_o only_o in_o sacrament_n but_o in_o truth_n this_o be_v a_o pope_n injunction_n sit_v in_o his_o chair_n precedent_n in_o council_n in_o a_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o doctrine_n which_o be_v of_o irrefragable_a authority_n in_o the_o popish_a church_n moreover_o be_v a_o public_a confession_n it_o be_v draw_v plain_o without_o guard_n or_o welt_v and_o must_v be_v understand_v literal_o &_o grammatical_o without_o shif_n or_o sleight_n according_a to_o the_o simple_a purport_n of_o the_o word_n wherefore_o my_o good_a friend_n peter_n when_o you_o presume_v to_o say_v thus_o illa_fw-la berengarij_fw-la verba_fw-la ita_fw-la distinguenda_fw-la sunt_fw-la ut_fw-la sensualiter_fw-la non_fw-la modo_fw-la in_o sacramento_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o veritate_fw-la dicatur_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la tractari_fw-la manibus_fw-la sacerdotum_fw-la frangi_fw-la verò_fw-la &_o atteri_fw-la dentibus_fw-la verè_fw-la quidem_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o sacramento_fw-la tantum_fw-la those_o word_n of_o berengarius_fw-la be_v so_o to_o be_v distinguish_v that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v say_v

sensible_o to_o be_v handle_v by_o the_o priest_n not_o only_o in_o a_o sacrament_n but_o in_o truth_n but_o to_o be_v break_v and_o tear_v with_o tooth_n true_o indeed_o but_o only_o in_o a_o sacrament_n your_o gloss_n set_v the_o text_n upon_o the_o rack_n &_o violenlty_n draw_v the_o member_n of_o it_o a_o sunder_o which_o be_v copulative_o chain_v together_o in_o the_o text_n tractari_fw-la &_o frangi_fw-la &_o fidelium_fw-la dentibus_fw-la atteri_fw-la distinguenda_fw-la sunt_fw-la quoth_v he_o alas_o every_o child_n may_v see_v it_o can_v bear_v such_o a_o distinction_n and_o therefore_o either_o suffer_v your_o pope_n text_n to_o stand_v still_o in_o force_n or_o else_o set_v down_o plain_o like_o honest_a meaning_n man_n that_o your_o pope_n and_o his_o council_n have_v gross_o err_v howbeit_o the_o former_a part_n of_o the_o pope_n word_n have_v most_o need_n of_o a_o gloss_n for_o when_o he_o say_v that_o bread_n and_o wine_n after_o consecration_n be_v not_o only_o a_o sacrament_n but_o also_o the_o true_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n if_o he_o mean_v the_o accident_n they_o can_v be_v neither_o body_n nor_o blood_n if_o he_o mean_v the_o substance_n that_o be_v vanish_v 1●_n lib._n 4._o do_v 1●_n if_o he_o mean_v substantia_fw-la mutata_fw-la in_o id_fw-la quod_fw-la facta_fw-la est_fw-la the_o substance_n change_v into_o that_o which_o it_o be_v make_v that_o be_v in_o carnem_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la christi_fw-la 11._o lib._n 4_o do_v 11._o into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n as_o lombard_n some_o where_o seem_v to_o tell_v we_o then_o be_v it_o not_o both_o a_o sacrament_n and_o the_o true_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n too_o but_o only_o one_o of_o they_o namely_o id_fw-la quod_fw-la facta_fw-la est_fw-la that_o whereinto_o it_o be_v change_v and_o here_o you_o may_v smell_v transubstantiation_n though_o it_o be_v not_o yet_o devise_v but_o it_o stink_v so_o that_o lombard_n himself_o can_v hardly_o abide_v it_o ibid._n ibid._n for_o thus_o he_o write_v si_fw-la quaeritur_fw-la qualis_fw-la sit_fw-la illa_fw-la conuersio_fw-la a_o formalis_fw-la a_o substantialis_fw-la vel_fw-la alterius_fw-la generis_fw-la definire_fw-la non_fw-la sufficio_fw-la if_o a_o man_n ask_v what_o manner_n of_o conversion_n it_o be_v whether_o formal_a or_o substantial_a or_o of_o some_o other_o kind_n i_o be_o not_o able_a to_o determine_v it_o which_o be_v as_o much_o to_o say_v as_o i_o can_v tell_v whether_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n be_v change_v into_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n or_o no_o for_o grant_v i_o this_o antecedent_n substantia_fw-la panis_fw-la mutatur_fw-la the_o substance_n of_o bread_n be_v change_v the_o conclusion_n will_v follow_v of_o necessity_n ergo_fw-la est_fw-la substantialis_fw-la mutatio_fw-la a_o substantial_a change_n &_o so_o he_o that_o tell_v i_o that_o he_o can_v define_v whether_o the_o change_n of_o bread_n into_o flesh_n and_o wine_n into_o blood_n be_v substantial_a tell_v i_o withal_o that_o he_o can_v define_v whether_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v change_v into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n these_o be_v the_o colour_n and_o show_v and_o accident_n that_o have_v bewitch_v a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o world_n and_o these_o be_v the_o gloss_n and_o interpretation_n that_o have_v cause_v man_n to_o run_v mad_a and_o at_o length_n to_o sleep_v in_o their_o own_o excrement_n but_o if_o you_o look_v into_o the_o age_n before_o berengarius_fw-la you_o shall_v find_v such_o as_o do_v write_v open_o against_o these_o popish_a accident_n and_o form_n without_o subject_n and_o against_o all_o untoward_a gloss_n in_o defence_n of_o the_o sacramentarie_a heresy_n as_o heretic_n now_o call_v it_o without_o all_o controlment_n or_o contradiction_n which_o be_v a_o main_a evidence_n to_o persuade_v that_o these_o real_a conversion_n and_o transmutation_n which_o be_v defend_v so_o stout_o and_o peremptory_o in_o popery_n be_v not_o catholic_a but_o heretical_a john_n scotus_n a_o learned_a man_n venerable_a bed_n scholar_n teach_v the_o same_o doctrine_n we_o hold_v at_o this_o day_n scotus_n johan._n scotus_n almost_o two_o hundred_o year_n before_o berengarius_fw-la so_o do_v bertram_z bertram_n bertram_n a_o famous_a man_n in_o his_o time_n as_o appear_v by_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr corpore_fw-la &_o sanguine_fw-la dei_fw-la write_v at_o the_o request_n of_o charles_n the_o great_a and_o doctor_n tonstall_n witness_v euchar._n lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr sacr._n euchar._n that_o before_o transubstantiation_n be_v conclude_v in_o the_o counsel_n of_o lateran_n it_o be_v lawful_a for_o every_o man_n free_o to_o think_v of_o it_o as_o he_o think_v good_a and_o if_o this_o evidence_n be_v not_o strong_a enough_o to_o carry_v away_o the_o matter_n then_o will_v i_o fain_o learn_v how_o they_o dare_v stand_v against_o pope_n gelasius_n that_o tell_v they_o plain_o that_o the_o substance_n and_o nature_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n remain_v still_o eutych_n gelas_n contr_n eutych_n non_fw-la desinit_fw-la esse_fw-la substantia_fw-la panis_fw-la &_o natura_fw-la vini_fw-la there_o cease_v not_o to_o be_v the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o nature_n of_o wine_n they_o tell_v we_o very_o demure_o that_o by_o virtue_n of_o christ_n prayer_n 32._o luk._n 22_o 32._o the_o pope_n faith_n can_v fail_v and_o that_o he_o be_v to_o confirm_v his_o brethren_n yet_o herein_o they_o make_v gelasius_n faith_n to_o fail_v and_o utter_o refuse_v to_o be_v confirm_v by_o he_o yet_o be_v it_o not_o gelasius_n own_o private_a opinion_n 2_o de_fw-fr sacram._n li._n 4._o cap._n 4._o dialog_n 1_o &_o 2_o ambrose_n say_v of_o the_o consecrate_a bread_n and_o wine_n sunt_fw-la quae_fw-la erant_fw-la &_o in_o aliud_fw-la commutantur_fw-la they_o be_v the_o same_o they_o be_v and_o be_v change_v into_o another_o thing_n theodoret_n signa_fw-la mystica_fw-la post_fw-la sanctificationem_fw-la non_fw-la recedunt_fw-la à_fw-la natura_fw-la sva_fw-la manent_fw-la enim_fw-la in_o priori_fw-la substantia_fw-la &_o figura_fw-la &_o forma_fw-la the_o mystical_a sign_n after_o sanctification_n do_v not_o depart_v from_o their_o own_o nature_n for_o they_o remain_v in_o their_o former_a substance_n figure_n and_o form_n chrysostome_n 15._o ad_fw-la caesarium_fw-la in_o math._n hom_n 15._o panis_n sanctificatus_fw-la dignus_fw-la est_fw-la dominici_fw-la corporis_fw-la appellatione_fw-la etsi_fw-la natura_fw-la panis_fw-la in_o illo_fw-la remanserit_fw-la the_o sanctify_a bread_n be_v worthy_a the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n body_n although_o the_o nature_n of_o bread_n remain_v in_o it_o origen_n ille_fw-la cibus_fw-la qui_fw-la sanctificatur_fw-la per_fw-la verbum_fw-la dei_fw-la &_o per_fw-la obsecrationem_fw-la iuxta_fw-la id_fw-la quod_fw-la habet_fw-la materiale_a in_o ventrem_fw-la abit_fw-la &_o in_o secessum_fw-la encitur_fw-la that_o meat_n which_o be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o by_o prayer_n according_a to_o that_o which_o be_v material_a in_o it_o go_v into_o the_o belly_n and_o be_v cast_v out_o into_o the_o draught_n and_o if_o all_o these_o authority_n be_v reject_v you_o shall_v they_o never_o be_v able_a to_o avoid_v the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n christ_n who_o after_o the_o ministration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o both_o kind_n conclude_v after_o this_o manner_n i_o say_v unto_o you_o 25._o math._n 26_o 29._o mark_n 14_o 25._o i_o will_v drink_v no_o more_o of_o this_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n till_o i_o drink_v it_o new_a in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n unless_o they_o can_v make_v man_n believe_v that_o blood_n may_v be_v the_o fruit_n of_o a_o vine_n let_v we_o now_o return_v to_o the_o examination_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n which_o our_o papist_n imagine_v to_o be_v raise_v from_o the_o dead_a what_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v say_v he_o that_o the_o very_a body_n of_o christ_n be_v present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n in_o form_n of_o bread_n many_o then_o say_v i_o he_o shall_v lie_v for_o chrysostome_n say_v 11._o in_o oper_n imper_v in_o math._n hom_n 11._o in_o vasis_fw-la sanctificatis_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la ipsum_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la sed_fw-la mysterium_fw-la corporis_fw-la eius_fw-la continetur_fw-la in_o the_o sanctify_a vessel_n be_v contain_v not_o the_o very_a body_n of_o christ_n but_o the_o mystery_n of_o his_o body_n but_o forasmuch_o as_o it_o be_v here_o confess_v that_o if_o this_o doctor_n raise_v from_o the_o dead_a shall_v answer_v that_o the_o bread_n be_v call_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o a_o figurative_a sense_n and_o that_o in_o sacrament_n the_o sign_n be_v many_o time_n call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o thing_n signify_v he_o do_v clear_o in_o so_o answer_v determine_v the_o controversy_n on_o the_o protestant_n side_n what_o shall_v we_o labour_v further_o it_o be_v too_o too_o manifest_a that_o the_o father_n do_v answer_v so_o in_o their_o book_n extant_a at_o this_o day_n and_o that_o in_o as_o plain_a manner_n as_o can_v be_v wish_v qui_fw-la seipsum_fw-la vitem_fw-la appellavit_fw-la ibid._n dialog_n

1._o ibid._n say_v theodoret._n i_o will_v symbola_fw-la &_o signa_fw-la quae_fw-la videntur_fw-la appellatione_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la honoravit_fw-la he_o that_o call_v himself_o the_o vine_n do_v honour_v the_o sign_n which_o be_v see_v with_o the_o name_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n and_o again_o seruator_fw-la noster_fw-la commutavit_fw-la nomina_fw-la &_o corpori_fw-la quidem_fw-la symboli_fw-la nomen_fw-la de_fw-fr dit_fw-fr symbolo_fw-la verò_fw-la nomen_fw-la corporis_fw-la our_o saviour_n change_v the_o name_n and_o give_v to_o the_o body_n the_o name_n of_o the_o symbol_n and_o to_o the_o symbol_n the_o name_n of_o the_o body_n chrysostome_n 12._o ad_fw-la caesar_n monach_n ad_fw-la bonis_fw-la epist_n 23._o contr._n adim_n cap._n 12._o panis_n sanctificatus_fw-la dignus_fw-la est_fw-la dominici_fw-la corporis_fw-la appellatione_fw-la the_o sanctify_a bread_n be_v dignify_v with_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n body_n austin_n sacramenta_fw-la plerunque_fw-la rerum_fw-la ipsarum_fw-la nomina_fw-la accipiunt_fw-la sacrament_n do_v often_o take_v the_o name_n of_o the_o thing_n themselves_o and_o again_o non_fw-la dubitavit_fw-la dominus_fw-la dicere_fw-la ult._n contr._n martion_n lib._n 4._o in_o 1._o cor._n 11._o de_fw-fr his_fw-la qui_fw-la init_fw-la mist_n cap._n ult._n hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la cum_fw-la daret_fw-la signum_fw-la corporis_fw-la svi_fw-la the_o lord_n do_v not_o stick_v to_o say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n when_o he_o give_v the_o sign_n of_o his_o body_n and_o again_o facinus_fw-la vel_fw-la flagitium_fw-la videtur_fw-la inbere_fw-la figura_fw-la ergo_fw-la est_fw-la praecipiens_fw-la passioni_fw-la domini_fw-la esse_fw-la communicandum_fw-la &_o suaviter_fw-la atque_fw-la utiliter_fw-la recondendum_fw-la in_o memoria_fw-la quod_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la caro_fw-la eius_fw-la crucifixa_fw-la &_o vulnerata_fw-la sit_fw-la he_o seem_v to_o command_v a_o heinous_a or_o horrible_a wickedness_n therefore_o it_o be_v a_o figure_n instruct_v we_o to_o communicate_v of_o the_o passion_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o pleasant_o and_o profitable_o to_o keep_v in_o memory_n that_o his_o flesh_n be_v crucify_v and_o wound_v for_o us._n tertullian_n hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la figura_fw-la corporis_fw-la mei_fw-la this_o be_v my_o body_n that_o be_v to_o say_v this_o be_v a_o figure_n of_o my_o body_n ambrose_n quia_fw-la morte_fw-la domini_fw-la liberati_fw-la sumus_fw-la huiusrei_fw-la memores_fw-la in_o edendo_fw-la &_o potando_fw-la carnem_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la quae_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la oblata_fw-la sunt_fw-la significamus_fw-la because_o we_o be_v deliver_v by_o the_o death_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v mindful_a thereof_o in_o eat_v and_o drink_v we_o do_v signify_v his_o flesh_n and_o his_o blood_n which_o be_v offer_v for_o us._n and_o again_o post_fw-la consecrationem_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la significatur_fw-la after_o consecration_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v signify_v such_o place_n as_o these_o be_v so_o common_a in_o the_o writing_n of_o the_o ancient_a father_n that_o it_o be_v utter_o needless_a to_o rehearse_v any_o more_o of_o they_o thus_o be_v your_o papist_n prevent_v for_o our_o cause_n you_o see_v be_v clear_o determine_v yet_o notwithstanding_o it_o be_v pity_v the_o poor_a man_n tale_n shall_v not_o be_v hear_v if_o this_o doctor_n say_v he_o shall_v answer_v that_o god_n be_v omnipotent_a and_o able_a to_o do_v what_o he_o will_v that_o he_o be_v able_a to_o make_v heaven_n and_o earth_n &_o to_o do_v great_a wonder_n and_o miracle_n in_o egypt_n be_v not_o the_o matter_n clear_o determine_v on_o the_o papist_n side_n no_o verily_a be_v it_o not_o neither_o will_v any_o man_n ever_o think_v so_o if_o he_o know_v the_o virtue_n and_o power_n of_o a_o sacrament_n pope_n leo_n speak_v of_o the_o water_n in_o baptism_n though_o it_o be_v not_o transubstantiate_a say_v thus_o christus_fw-la dedit_fw-la aquae_fw-la quod_fw-la dedit_fw-la matri_fw-la 4._o de_fw-fr nativit_fw-la serm_n 4._o virtus_fw-la enim_fw-la altissimi_fw-la &_o obumbratio_fw-la spiritus_fw-la sancti_fw-la quae_fw-la fecit_fw-la ut_fw-la maria_fw-la pareret_fw-la saluatorem_fw-la eadem_fw-la fecit_fw-la utregeneraret_fw-la unda_fw-la credentem_fw-la christ_n give_v that_o to_o the_o water_n which_o he_o give_v to_o his_o mother_n for_o the_o power_n of_o the_o most_o high_a and_o the_o overshadow_a of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n which_o cause_v marie_n to_o bring_v forth_o the_o saviour_n make_v the_o water_n to_o regenerate_v a_o believer_n so_o austin_n 49._o cont_n litter_n pet_n tan_o lib._n 3._o cap._n 49._o nec_fw-la iam_fw-la baptizare_fw-la cessavit_fw-la dominus_fw-la sed_fw-la adhuc_fw-la id_fw-la agit_fw-fr non_fw-la ministerio_fw-la corporis_fw-la sed_fw-la invisibili_fw-la opere_fw-la maiestatis_fw-la neither_o have_v the_o lord_n now_o cease_v to_o baptize_v but_o he_o do_v it_o still_o not_o by_o the_o ministry_n of_o his_o body_n but_o by_o the_o invisible_a work_n of_o his_o majesty_n so_o chrysostome_n angeli_fw-la qui_fw-la adfuerunt_fw-la in_fw-la baptismo_fw-la iam_fw-la inenarrabilis_fw-la operis_fw-la modum_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la enarrare_fw-la adfuerunt_fw-la tantum_fw-la &_o viderunt_fw-la 24._o in_o joh._n ho._n 24._o nihil_fw-la tamen_fw-la operati_fw-la sunt_fw-la sed_fw-la pater_fw-la tantum_fw-la &_o filius_fw-la &_o spiritus_fw-la sanctus_fw-la the_o angel_n which_o be_v present_a in_o baptism_n be_v not_o able_a to_o declare_v the_o manner_n of_o that_o unspeakable_a work_n only_o they_o be_v present_a and_o behold_v but_o wrought_v nothing_o but_o the_o father_n only_o and_o the_o son_n and_o holy_a spirit_n this_o very_a power_n of_o the_o most_o high_a and_o overshadow_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n this_o very_a work_n of_o the_o majesty_n of_o god_n be_v it_o and_o only_o it_o that_o make_v these_o outward_a element_n 30._o rom._n 4.11_o eph._n 4_o 15_o 16._o ephe._n 5_o 30._o seal_n of_o the_o righteousness_n of_o faith_n and_o effectual_a sign_n and_o mean_n of_o our_o regeneration_n and_o grow_v up_o into_o he_o which_o be_v the_o head_n even_o christ_n so_o as_o we_o be_v make_v flesh_n of_o his_o flesh_n and_o bone_n of_o his_o bone_n immortalitatis_fw-la alimonia_fw-la datur_fw-la à_fw-la communibus_fw-la cibis_fw-la differens_fw-la domini_fw-la cypr._n de_fw-fr caena_fw-la domini_fw-la corporalis_fw-la substantiae_fw-la retinens_fw-la speciem_fw-la sed_fw-la virtutis_fw-la divinae_fw-la invisibili_fw-la efficientia_fw-la probans_fw-la adesse_fw-la praesentiam_fw-la a_o food_n of_o immortality_n be_v give_v differ_v from_o common_a meat_n retain_v the_o form_n of_o a_o bodily_a substance_n but_o prove_v that_o a_o divine_a power_n be_v present_a by_o the_o invisible_a efficacy_n of_o it_o you_o see_v now_o i_o trow_v that_o god_n omnipotency_n have_v somewhat_o else_o to_o do_v than_o to_o transubstantiate_v bread_n and_o wine_n and_o to_o uphold_v empty_a accident_n that_o have_v no_o subject_n and_o touch_v the_o word_n of_o saint_n ambrose_n which_o be_v count_v so_o pregnant_a for_o transubstantiation_n as_o we_o be_v here_o will_v to_o read_v they_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr ijs_fw-la qui_fw-la initiantur_fw-la mysterijs_fw-la so_o you_o may_v read_v they_o object_v by_o steph._n gardiner_n and_o chedsey_n and_o so_o answer_v by_o peter_n martyr_n that_o few_o papist_n or_o none_o at_o all_o from_o that_o day_n to_o this_o ever_o dare_v propound_v they_o ambrose_n do_v not_o say_v that_o the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v abolish_v for_o he_o flat_o avouch_v the_o contrary_a when_o he_o say_v sunt_fw-la quae_fw-la erant_fw-la they_o be_v the_o same_o they_o be_v but_o that_o the_o nature_n of_o they_o be_v change_v that_o whereas_o before_o they_o be_v common_a creature_n and_o profane_a by_o nature_n now_o by_o consecration_n they_o be_v holy_a sign_n such_o as_o do_v not_o only_o represent_v but_o exhibit_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n to_o the_o faithful_a receiver_n and_o be_v effectual_a and_o powerful_a instrument_n whereby_o life_n and_o immortality_n be_v convey_v into_o we_o and_o this_o exposition_n do_v ambrose_n himself_o confirm_v where_o he_o say_v towards_o the_o end_n of_o the_o chapter_n that_o this_o be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o the_o true_a flesh_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o after_o consecration_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v signify_v now_o to_o make_v light_n of_o so_o wonderful_a a_o change_n which_o pass_v the_o capacity_n of_o angel_n as_o chrysostome_n say_v and_o to_o make_v it_o inferior_a to_o the_o wonder_n of_o egypt_n whereof_o most_o be_v do_v by_o sorcerer_n as_o well_o as_o by_o moses_n argue_v a_o understanding_n darken_v with_o deep_a ignorance_n and_o too_o much_o addict_v to_o popish_a devise_n i_o can_v add_v that_o this_o place_n of_o ambrose_n be_v object_v also_o by_o harding_n and_o answer_v by_o bishop_n juell_n 3._o art_n 10_o divis_fw-la 3._o and_o that_o this_o book_n be_v think_v by_o many_o wise_a and_o learned_a man_n to_o be_v false_o father_v upon_o ambrose_n but_o this_o that_o i_o have_v say_v already_o be_v sufficient_a to_o beat_v down_o the_o fond_a brag_n of_o our_o papist_n and_o to_o show_v he_o clear_o that_o ambrose_n be_v wrest_v

string_n and_o carry_v the_o universal_a church_n upon_o his_o back_n as_o though_o his_o word_n have_v never_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v answer_v and_o this_o face_n may_v become_v a_o papist_n reasonable_o well_o but_o when_o he_o bring_v in_o ephanius_n with_o a_o wrong_a translation_n to_o second_v the_o matter_n who_o testimony_n have_v be_v often_o answer_v and_o the_o edge_n &_o point_n of_o it_o turn_v long_o ago_o to_o the_o very_a throat_n and_o bowel_n of_o transubstantiation_n i_o may_v true_o say_v of_o he_o as_o the_o wise_a man_n do_v of_o unaduised_a pratler_n 26.12_o prou._n 29.20_o &_o cap._n 26.12_o namely_o that_o there_o be_v more_o hope_n of_o a_o fool_n than_o of_o he_o epiphanius_n say_v et_fw-la accepit_fw-la haec_fw-la and_o he_o take_v these_o speak_v plural_o of_o many_o round_a cake_n or_o piece_n of_o bread_n which_o after_o he_o call_v hoc_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la this_o and_o this_o more_o distinctlyt_v his_o our_o translator_n clean_o omit_v and_o english_v hoc_fw-la est_fw-la meum_fw-la hoc_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la this_o be_v i_o and_o this_o and_o this_o this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o so_o forth_o again_o hoc_fw-la est_fw-la rotundae_fw-la figurae_fw-la &_o insensibile_fw-la quantum_fw-la ad_fw-la potentiam_fw-la this_o be_v of_o a_o round_a figure_n &_o insensible_a he_o translate_v that_o be_v of_o a_o round_a figure_n and_o impossible_a to_o be_v discern_v of_o us._n and_o again_o qui_fw-la non_fw-la credit_n esse_fw-la ipsum_fw-la verum_fw-la he_o that_o believe_v not_o that_o it_o be_v true_a he_o translate_v thus_o who_o so_o believe_v not_o that_o it_o be_v he_o whereas_o ipsum_fw-la verum_fw-la agree_v grammatical_o with_o sermonem_fw-la immediate_o before_o these_o forgery_n be_v very_o material_a for_o when_o epiphanius_n say_v hoc_fw-la meum_fw-la est_fw-la hoc_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la as_o of_o three_o round_a cake_n whereof_o every_o one_o several_o and_o separately_z be_v say_v to_o be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n very_o we_o must_v either_o admit_v a_o new_a trinity_n in_o unity_n whereof_o every_o one_o several_o be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o yet_o all_o three_o but_o one_o body_n or_o else_o we_o can_v hold_v transubstantiation_n it_o will_v not_o be_v so_o hard_a a_o matter_n to_o exemplify_v the_o mystery_n of_o the_o trinity_n which_o be_v beyond_o all_o example_n if_o hoc_fw-la hoc_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la be_v a_o trinity_n in_o unity_n second_o when_o epiphanius_n say_v that_o the_o round_a cake_n be_v without_o sense_n and_o powerlesse_a for_o so_o we_o be_v teach_v to_o translate_v it_o by_o opposition_n follow_v in_o these_o word_n dominum_fw-la verò_fw-la nostrum_fw-la novimus_fw-la totum_fw-la sensum_fw-la totum_fw-la sensitiwm_fw-la etc._n etc._n we_o know_v that_o our_o lord_n be_v all_o sense_n and_o all_o sensitive_a we_o see_v plain_o that_o it_o can_v be_v say_v of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n simple_o and_o absolute_o unless_o we_o imagine_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v senseless_a and_o powerlesse_a last_o when_o epiphanius_n say_v that_o we_o must_v believe_v the_o word_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v true_a as_o he_o speak_v they_o we_o may_v not_o think_v that_o he_o understand_v by_o ipsum_fw-la verum_fw-la very_a christ_n himself_o body_n blood_n and_o all_o as_o this_o man_n translate_v in_o favour_n of_o the_o popish_a single_a sacrilegious_a communion_n for_o that_o be_v not_o sicut_fw-la dixit_fw-la as_o any_o man_n may_v easy_o perceive_v the_o counsel_n of_o trent_n decree_v thus_o 3._o sess_n 13._o cap._n 3._o si_fw-la quis_fw-la negaverit_fw-la totum_fw-la &_o integrum_fw-la christum_fw-la &_o omnium_fw-la gratiarum_fw-la fontem_fw-la &_o authorem_fw-la sub_fw-la una_fw-la panis_fw-la specie_fw-la sumi_fw-la anathema_n sit_v if_o any_o man_n shall_v deny_v that_o whole_a christ_n and_o the_o author_n and_o fountain_n of_o all_o grace_n be_v contain_v under_o the_o only_a form_n of_o bread_n let_v he_o be_v accurse_v but_o i_o beseech_v you_o tell_v we_o by_o what_o word_n this_o strange_a consecration_n be_v make_v hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la make_v but_o the_o body_n that_o be_v break_v and_o blood_n be_v not_o break_v but_o shed_v again_o hic_fw-la est_fw-la sanguis_fw-la meus_fw-la make_v but_o the_o blood_n that_o be_v shed_v and_o the_o body_n be_v not_o shed_v but_o break_v very_o our_o saviour_n himself_o when_o he_o give_v bread_n give_v his_o body_n and_o not_o blood_n for_o that_o he_o give_v after_o supper_n when_o he_o take_v the_o cup_n 20._o luk._n 22_o 20._o and_o if_o he_o give_v integrum_fw-la christum_fw-la whole_a christ_n when_o he_o give_v bread_n than_o he_o give_v nothing_o when_o he_o give_v the_o cup_n and_o therefore_o these_o good_a fellow_n have_v need_n take_v heed_n they_o involve_v not_o the_o son_n of_o god_n himself_o within_o their_o 3._o 1._o cor._n 12_o 3._o anathema_n sit_v for_o no_o man_n speak_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n call_v jesus_n execrable_a comper_n in_o decret_a pontiff_n do_v 2._o cap._n comper_n no_o no_o they_o that_o divide_v this_o holy_a mystery_n be_v sacrilegi_fw-la say_v pope_n gelasius_n and_o so_o by_o good_a consequent_a this_o anathema_n sit_v must_v return_v home_o and_o fall_v upon_o their_o own_o bald_a pate_n that_o make_v it_o but_o to_o leave_v these_o fashood_n and_o to_o give_v you_o the_o true_a meaning_n of_o this_o ancient_a father_n in_o a_o summary_n compendium_n we_o must_v believe_v that_o bread_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n not_o simple_o but_o in_o such_o a_o figure_n as_o take_v not_o away_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o scripture_n as_o we_o also_o believe_v man_n to_o be_v after_o a_o true_a understanding_n 27_o gent._n 1.26_o 27_o the_o image_n of_o god_n for_o as_o man_n be_v after_o a_o sort_n the_o image_n of_o god_n as_o the_o word_n of_o god_n testify_v though_o he_o be_v not_o thorough_o so_o neither_o in_o regard_n of_o body_n nor_o soul_n nor_o mind_n nor_o baptism_n nor_o virtuous_a live_n not_o any_o other_o evident_a and_o lively_a similitude_n we_o see_v he_o to_o have_v with_o god_n so_o do_v we_o believe_v that_o the_o bread_n which_o be_v of_o a_o round_a figure_n and_o without_o sense_n and_o feeling_n be_v after_o a_o true_a manner_n and_o meaning_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n as_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n teach_v we_o though_o it_o be_v not_o so_o by_o substance_n or_o apparent_a proportion_n and_o portraiture_n of_o bodily_a member_n wherefore_o though_o bread_n by_o nature_n be_v but_o a_o profane_a common_a element_n appoint_v of_o god_n to_o feed_v our_o body_n yet_o by_o grace_n it_o please_v the_o lord_n to_o make_v it_o and_o to_o call_v it_o his_o body_n that_o be_v a_o sacrament_n of_o his_o body_n whereby_o as_o by_o a_o effectual_a instrument_n the_o faithful_a receiver_n be_v spiritual_o feed_v and_o nourish_v to_o eternal_a life_n this_o i_o take_v to_o be_v epiphanius_n meaning_n whereunto_o i_o will_v add_v a_o few_o lesson_n for_o more_o perspicuity_n and_o for_o the_o overthwart_a of_o those_o two_o lesson_n which_o our_o papist_n here_o give_v us._n first_a epiphanius_n be_v learned_a and_o industrious_a know_v well_o enough_o wherein_o the_o image_n of_o god_n consist_v 10._o ephes_n 4_o 24._o coloss_n 3_o 10._o for_o paul_n teach_v it_o plain_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o ephesian_n and_o colossian_n second_o this_o image_n be_v so_o deface_v and_o overshadow_a in_o the_o posterity_n of_o adam_n that_o nothing_o in_o man_n or_o about_o man_n seem_v answerable_a or_o agreeable_a unto_o it_o three_o notwithstanding_o this_o obscurity_n we_o must_v believe_v the_o truth_n of_o god_n word_n that_o man_n be_v create_v after_o the_o image_n of_o god_n and_o not_o overthrow_v that_o truth_n by_o allegorical_a subtlety_n four_o we_o have_v the_o like_a example_n in_o the_o word_n of_o christ_n at_o his_o last_o supper_n namely_o this_o bread_n be_v my_o body_n which_o epiphanius_n know_v to_o be_v speak_v per_fw-la gratiam_fw-la by_o grace_n whereby_o that_o common_a element_n be_v advance_v supernatural_o and_o mystical_o yet_o true_o to_o have_v the_o name_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n whereof_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n five_o there_o be_v no_o apparent_a equality_n or_o likelihood_n or_o outward_a sensible_a similitude_n or_o proportion_n of_o member_n why_o bread_n shall_v be_v so_o call_v last_o notwithstanding_o this_o difficulty_n we_o must_v believe_v that_o by_o bread_n be_v mean_v true_a bread_n and_o by_o body_n the_o true_a body_n of_o christ_n and_o that_o the_o one_o be_v say_v of_o the_o other_o figurative_o indeed_o because_o they_o be_v dispanita_fw-la yet_o true_o as_o our_o saviour_n speak_v and_o not_o fly_v to_o origenicall_a allegory_n which_o overthrow_n the_o historical_a truth_n of_o god_n holy_a word_n and_o turn_v it_o into_o fable_n these_o lesson_n i_o trow_v be_v plain_a enough_o yet_o i_o doubt_v our_o papist_n will_n

between_o we_o i_o desire_v to_o know_v of_o you_o whether_o that_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v offer_v be_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n which_o impli_v transubstantiation_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o protestat_n communion_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o prayer_n or_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o thanksgiving_n for_o if_o it_o be_v none_o of_o the_o three_o last_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n and_o so_o be_v transubstantiation_n prove_v pro._n communion_n pro._n and_o why_o not_o the_o protestant_n communion_n it_o may_v be_v either_o prayer_n or_o thanksgiving_n for_o both_o be_v often_o time_n in_o the_o scripture_n call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o a_o sacrifice_n pap._n thus_o do_v i_o prove_v that_o it_o be_v neither_o and_o first_o that_o it_o be_v not_o prayer_n it_o be_v manifest_a by_o the_o place_n of_o s._n austin_n before_o cite_v de_fw-fr verb._n apost_n serm._n 32._o where_o he_o make_v mention_n of_o the_o prayer_n that_o the_o church_n make_v for_o the_o dead_a and_o of_o the_o sacrifice_n which_o it_o use_v to_o offer_v for_o they_o as_o of_o two_o distinct_a thing_n for_o there_o he_o say_v that_o at_o the_o time_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n prayer_n be_v make_v for_o the_o dead_a &_o that_o the_o sacrifice_n be_v also_o offer_v for_o they_o that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o thanksgiving_n it_o appear_v likewise_o by_o the_o same_o doctor_n by_o the_o place_n by_o i_o above_o cite_v out_o of_o his_o enchiridion_n where_o he_o say_v neque_fw-la negandum_fw-la est_fw-la defunctorum_fw-la animas_fw-la pielate_fw-la suorum_fw-la viventium_fw-la relovari_fw-la cum_fw-la pro_fw-la eye_v sacrificium_fw-la redemptoris_fw-la offertur_fw-la etc._n etc._n neither_o must_v we_o deny_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a be_v relieve_v by_o the_o charity_n of_o their_o live_a friend_n when_o as_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o our_o redeemer_n be_v offer_v for_o they_o the_o sacrifice_n therefore_o which_o the_o church_n do_v offer_v be_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o our_o redeemer_n and_o it_o be_v offer_v that_o the_o dead_a may_v be_v relieve_v how_o can_v you_o call_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o thanksgiving_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o our_o redeemer_n or_o how_o can_v you_o say_v that_o the_o church_n do_v offer_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o thanksgiving_n that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a may_v be_v reléeve_v for_o thanksgiving_n be_v for_o benefit_n receive_v and_o not_o for_o benefit_n to_o be_v receive_v it_o remain_v therefore_o that_o this_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o church_n be_v mass_n be_v this_o be_v a_o worthy_a disputer_n that_o conclude_v for_o our_o communion_n as_o well_o as_o his_o own_o mass_n either_o the_o protestant_n communion_n or_o else_o that_o it_o be_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n and_o consequent_o that_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v real_o in_o the_o sacrament_n the_o answer_n the_o knot_n he_o talk_v of_o be_v so_o loose_o tie_v that_o it_o be_v no_o mastery_n to_o undo_v it_o but_o now_o we_o shall_v have_v such_o a_o argument_n as_o shall_v prove_v unto_o we_o the_o consent_n of_o all_o ancient_a father_n and_o the_o uniform_a practice_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n for_o transubstantiation_n these_o be_v great_a word_n yet_o notwithstanding_o when_o he_o ground_n this_o doughty_a argument_n upon_o austin_n ambrose_n and_o tertullian_n conclude_v thereof_o that_o in_o all_o these_o age_n the_o church_n do_v offer_v a_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o quick_a and_o the_o dead_a i_o can_v take_v they_o for_o no_o better_a than_o the_o word_n of_o a_o man_n beside_o himself_o he_o know_v well_o enough_o that_o ambrose_n and_o austin_n be_v both_o of_o a_o age_n for_o he_o have_v tell_v we_o once_o or_o twice_o that_o the_o one_o convert_v the_o other_o and_o if_o he_o know_v not_o that_o the_o annual_a offering_n of_o a_o widow_n woman_n upon_o the_o day_n of_o her_o husband_n death_n enjoin_v she_o by_o tertullian_n in_o these_o word_n et_fw-la offerat_fw-la annuis_fw-la diebus_fw-la dormitionis_fw-la eius_fw-la be_v not_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n i_o must_v needs_o think_v his_o head_n be_v out_o of_o temper_n if_o these_o three_o father_n have_v write_v in_o three_o several_a age_n it_o have_v be_v the_o least_o number_n that_o the_o word_n all_o can_v be_v speak_v of_o 1._o aristot_n de_fw-fr caelum_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 1._o for_o we_o call_v two_o both_o and_o not_o all_o and_o therefore_o by_o what_o wit_n or_o common_a sense_n he_o can_v say_v all_o these_o age_n of_o one_o age_n or_o two_o at_o the_o most_o if_o tertullian_n have_v not_o be_v mistake_v i_o can_v possible_o imagine_v but_o for_o answer_v to_o these_o father_n 79._o contr._n collyr_n haeres_fw-la 79._o epiphanius_n say_v true_o deo_fw-la abaeterno_fw-la nullatenus_fw-la mulier_fw-la sacrificavit_fw-la a_o woman_n do_v never_o in_o any_o case_n offer_v any_o sacrifice_n to_o god_n and_o again_o nusquam_fw-la mulier_fw-la sacrificavit_fw-la aut_fw-la sacerdotio_fw-la functa_fw-la est_fw-la a_o woman_n never_o sacrifice_v nor_o exercise_v the_o priestly_a office_n tryphon_n dialog_n cum_fw-la tryphon_n whereunto_o add_v out_o of_o justine_n martyr_n that_o god_n receive_v no_o sacrifice_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o only_o of_o his_o priest_n whereof_o it_o follow_v that_o the_o annual_a oblation_n that_o tertullian_n speak_v of_o be_v no_o sacrifice_n unless_o you_o will_v say_v 49._o epiph._n haeres_fw-la 49._o that_o tertullian_n be_v a_o priscillianist_n or_o artotyrite_n that_o allow_v of_o roman_a priest_n and_o woman_n bishop_n to_o offer_v bread_n and_o cheese_n in_o sacrifice_n to_o the_o lord_n and_o touch_v ambrose_n i_o show_v before_o that_o he_o offer_v not_o the_o very_a body_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v receive_v of_o merit_n not_o of_o mercy_n how_o irreverent_o soever_o it_o be_v handle_v but_o celebrate_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n join_v with_o prayer_n and_o thanksgiving_n so_o now_o austin_n be_v leave_v alone_o of_o who_o i_o may_v say_v as_o our_o papist_n teach_v i_o a_o while_n ago_o namely_o that_o it_o be_v not_o probable_a that_o saint_n ambrose_n be_v a_o protestant_n in_o this_o opinion_n and_o saint_n austin_n who_o he_o convert_v to_o the_o christian_a faith_n a_o papist_n howbeit_o you_o shall_v be_v further_o instruct_v out_o of_o lombard_n 12_o lib._n 4._o do_v 12_o that_o the_o ancient_a father_n do_v not_o use_v the_o word_n sacrifice_n and_o immolation_n in_o proper_a sense_n these_o be_v his_o word_n voco_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la &_o oblatio_fw-la quia_fw-la memoria_fw-la est_fw-la &_o representatio_fw-la very_fw-la sacrificij_fw-la &_o sanctae_fw-la oblationis_fw-la factae_fw-la in_o ara_n crucis_fw-la it_o be_v call_v a_o sacrifice_n and_o a_o offering_n because_o it_o be_v a_o remembrance_n and_o representation_n of_o the_o true_a sacrifice_n and_o holy_a offering_n make_v upon_o the_o altar_n of_o the_o cross_n and_o a_o little_a after_o quotidié_fw-fr immolatur_fw-la in_o sacramento_fw-la 3._o hierar_fw-it cap._n 3._o quia_fw-la in_o sacramento_n recordatio_fw-la fit_a illius_fw-la quod_fw-la factum_fw-la est_fw-la semel_fw-la we_o sacrifice_v daily_o in_o the_o sacrament_n because_o in_o the_o sacrament_n there_o be_v a_o remembrance_n of_o that_o which_o be_v once_o do_v or_o of_o that_o sacrifice_n which_o be_v once_o make_v dyenis_n in_o his_o hierarchy_n call_v it_o 15._o de_fw-fr demonst_a si_fw-la 1._o cap._n 10._o ad_fw-la hebr._n hom_n 17._o de_fw-fr civet_n dei_fw-la lib._n 20._o cap._n 15._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o figurative_a sacrifice_n and_o eusebius_n memoriam_fw-la magni_fw-la sacrificij_fw-la a_o remembrance_n of_o the_o great_a sacrifice_n and_o chrysostome_n recordationem_fw-la sacrificij_fw-la a_o remembrance_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n and_o austin_n himself_o signum_fw-la &_o representationem_fw-la sacrificij_fw-la a_o sign_n of_o representation_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n wherefore_o we_o can_v agree_v with_o your_o papist_n no_o far_o in_o this_o point_n than_o to_o confess_v that_o the_o ancient_a father_n call_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o body_n &_o blood_n of_o christ_n improper_o a_o sacrifice_n because_o it_o be_v a_o memorial_n and_o representation_n of_o that_o one_o all_o sufficient_a uniterable_a everlasting_a sacrifice_n which_o our_o saviour_n the_o last_o true_a priest_n that_o ever_o live_v or_o shall_v live_v upon_o the_o earth_n offer_v to_o god_n upon_o the_o altar_n of_o the_o cross_n and_o so_o the_o ground_n whereupon_o this_o popish_a argument_n be_v build_v be_v sandy_a and_o deceitful_a now_o let_v i_o show_v you_o that_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n and_o praise_n and_o thanksgiving_n be_v the_o only_a true_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n and_o that_o the_o ancient_a christian_n of_o the_o primitive_a church_n never_o know_v or_o hard_o of_o any_o other_o to_o this_o purpose_n therefore_o you_o must_v remember_v that_o god_n receive_v no_o sacrifice_n but_o at_o the_o hand_n of_o a_o priest_n for_o so_o we_o learn_v a_o

dialogue_n sectio_fw-la vii_o saint_n austin_n pompous_a funeral_n great_a troop_n of_o mourner_n sumptuous_a monument_n these_o do_v bring_v some_o comfort_n such_o as_o it_o be_v unto_o the_o live_n but_o they_o be_v not_o available_a unto_o the_o dead_a but_o we_o ought_v long_o ought_v what_o be_v it_o that_o put_v the_o matter_n out_o of_o doubt_n let_v that_o be_v show_v and_o we_o will_v doubt_v no_o long_o not_o to_o doubt_v but_o that_o the_o dead_a be_v relieve_v by_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o holy_a church_n by_o the_o wholesome_a sacrifice_n and_o by_o alm_n which_o be_v give_v that_o it_o may_v please_v our_o lord_n to_o deal_v more_o merciful_o with_o they_o than_o their_o sin_n have_v deserve_v this_o custom_n the_o universal_a church_n do_v observe_v be_v deliver_v by_o tradition_n apostolis_n tradition_n austin_n say_v a_o patribus_fw-la not_o ab_fw-la apostolis_n from_o the_o apostle_n that_o whereas_o at_o the_o time_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n commemoration_n be_v make_v of_o you_o of_o all_o communicant_n and_o only_a communicant_n be_v pray_v for_o be_v this_o catholic_a doctrine_n think_v you_o all_o soul_n depart_v in_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n they_o shall_v be_v pray_v for_o and_o that_o the_o sacrifice_n also_o shall_v be_v offer_v for_o they_o de_fw-fr verb._n apost_n sermon_n 32._o we_o ought_v it_o ought_v nor_o we_o ought_v not_o to_o say_v it_o unless_o we_o can_v prove_v it_o not_o to_o deny_v that_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a be_v relieve_v by_o the_o devotion_n of_o their_o live_a friend_n when_o as_o either_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o our_o redeemer_n be_v offer_v for_o they_o or_o alm_n give_v in_o the_o church_n enchir._n ad_fw-la laurent_n prope_fw-la fin_n when_o the_o martyr_n be_v mention_v at_o the_o altar_n of_o god_n they_o be_v not_o pray_v for_o but_o all_o but_o what_o all_o confessor_n bishop_n pope_n and_o all_o all_o other_o which_o be_v dead_a which_o be_v there_o remember_v be_v pray_v for_o de_fw-fr verb._n apostol_n serm_n 17._o when_o the_o sacrifice_n whether_o it_o be_v of_o the_o altar_n or_o of_o alm_n deed_n be_v offer_v for_o such_o as_o be_v dead_a mali_fw-la dead_a why_o not_o before_o as_o well_o as_o after_o you_o may_v as_o well_o offer_v for_o the_o unbaptised_a as_o for_o those_o that_o be_v valdé_v mali_fw-la after_o baptism_n for_o those_o that_o be_v very_o good_a they_o be_v thanksgiving_n for_o those_o which_o be_v not_o very_o evil_a they_o be_v propitiatory_a for_o those_o which_o be_v very_o evil_a although_o they_o profit_v not_o the_o dead_a yet_o be_v they_o some_o comfort_n unto_o the_o live_n dulcitij_fw-la question_n quest_n 2._o read_v his_o epistle_n ad_fw-la aurelium_fw-la episcopum_fw-la and_o his_o treatise_n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la this_o be_v no_o doubt_n s._n austin_n be_v austin_n or_o else_o you_o know_v not_o what_o faith_n be_v faith_n which_o he_o write_v teach_v and_o practise_v in_o his_o church_n and_o which_o be_v at_o that_o time_n general_o receive_v in_o the_o latin_a church_n the_o answer_n avstine_n belike_o be_v plentiful_a in_o this_o question_n for_o we_o have_v here_o four_o several_a place_n out_o of_o his_o work_n which_o we_o will_v brief_o run_v over_o as_o they_o come_v in_o the_o first_o austin_n be_v force_v to_o turn_v his_o tale_n for_o whereas_o before_o where_o this_o place_n be_v allege_v for_o tradition_n prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v no_o more_o but_o a_o tradition_n of_o the_o father_n here_o austin_n be_v entreat_v to_o say_v that_o it_o be_v deliver_v by_o tradition_n from_o the_o apostle_n i_o think_v your_o papist_n shall_v know_v that_o our_o writer_n allege_v this_o very_a place_n of_o austin_n to_o show_v that_o this_o manner_n of_o pray_v be_v receive_v of_o the_o church_n long_o after_o the_o apostle_n time_n 10._o decad._n 4._o serm_n 10._o as_o for_o example_n bullinger_n in_o his_o decade_n illud_fw-la dissimulare_fw-la non_fw-la possum_fw-la say_v he_o id_fw-la quod_fw-la isti_fw-la traditionem_fw-la apostolorum_fw-la appellant_n s._n augustinum_n nuncupare_fw-la traditionem_fw-la patrum_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la receptam_fw-la nam_fw-la sermone_fw-la de_fw-la verbis_fw-la apostoli_fw-la 32._o hoc_fw-la à_fw-la patribus_fw-la inquit_fw-la traditum_fw-la universa_fw-la obseruat_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la etc._n etc._n this_o i_o can_v hide_v that_o that_o which_o they_o call_v a_o traditon_n of_o the_o apostle_n 1._o quest_n 1._o augustine_n call_v a_o tradition_n of_o the_o father_n receive_v by_o the_o church_n see_v serm._n de_fw-fr verbis_fw-la apostoli_fw-la 32._o this_o say_v he_o be_v deliver_v by_o the_o father_n do_v the_o whole_a church_n observe_v and_o a_o little_a after_o conclude_v his_o significantius_fw-la innuere_fw-la videtur_fw-la hunc_fw-la ritum_fw-la orandi_fw-la pro_fw-la defunctis_fw-la haud_fw-la dubie_n post_n long_fw-mi internalla_fw-la à_fw-la temporibus_fw-la apostolorun_n ab_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la receptum_fw-la esse_fw-la by_o these_o word_n he_o seem_v more_o thorough_o to_o insinuate_v that_o this_o custom_n of_o pray_v for_o the_o dead_a be_v without_o all_o doubt_n receive_v by_o the_o church_n a_o long_a space_n after_o the_o apostle_n time_n wherefore_o this_o budgen_v and_o set_v down_o quid_fw-la pro_fw-la quo_fw-la in_o so_o material_a a_o testimony_n argue_v a_o perverse_a resolution_n rather_o to_o quench_v the_o fire_n of_o truth_n than_o the_o stubble_n and_o straw_n of_o our_o error_n shall_v be_v consume_v but_o for_o answer_v i_o say_v that_o austin_n himself_o doubt_v of_o that_o which_o here_o he_o say_v we_o ought_v not_o to_o doubt_v of_o thus_o he_o write_v in_o the_o question_n of_o dulcitius_n sieve_n in_o hac_fw-la vita_fw-la tantum_fw-la homines_fw-la ista_fw-la patiuntur_fw-la sive_fw-la etiam_fw-la post_fw-la hanc_fw-la vitam_fw-la talia_fw-la quaedam_fw-la iudicia_fw-la subsequuntur_fw-la non_fw-la abhorret_fw-la quantùm_fw-la arbitror_fw-la à_fw-la ratione_fw-la veritatis_fw-la iste_fw-la intellectus_fw-la huius_fw-la sententiae_fw-la whether_o man_n suffer_v these_o thing_n only_o in_o this_o life_n or_o whether_o after_o this_o life_n some_o such_o judgement_n follow_v this_o understanding_n of_o this_o sentence_n be_v not_o without_o some_o show_n of_o truth_n as_o i_o suppose_v also_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la 26_o lib._n 21._o cap._n 26_o sive_fw-la ibi_fw-la tantum_fw-la sive_fw-la hic_fw-la &_o ibi_fw-la sive_fw-la ideo_fw-la hic_fw-la ut_fw-la non_fw-la ibi_fw-la saecularia_fw-la quamuis_fw-la à_fw-la damnatione_fw-la venialia_fw-la concremantem_fw-la ignem_fw-la transitoriae_fw-la tribulationis_fw-la inveniant_fw-la non_fw-la redarguo_fw-la quia_fw-la forsitan_fw-la verum_fw-la est_fw-la whether_o thing_n commit_v in_o this_o world_n though_o venial_a in_o respect_n of_o damnation_n do_v find_v a_o transitory_a fire_n of_o tribulation_n here_o only_o or_o here_o and_o there_o or_o therefore_o here_o because_o not_o there_o i_o seek_v not_o to_o convince_v because_o perhaps_o it_o be_v true_a and_o in_o his_o enchiridion_n 69._o cap._n 69._o tale_n aliquid_fw-la post_fw-la hanc_fw-la vitam_fw-la fieri_fw-la incredibile_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la &_o utrum_fw-la ita_fw-la sit_fw-la quaeri_fw-la potest_fw-la that_o some_o such_o thing_n be_v do_v after_o this_o life_n it_o be_v not_o incredible_a and_o whether_o it_o be_v so_o do_v it_o be_v a_o question_n now_o than_o if_o austin_n himself_o doubt_v whether_o man_n be_v punish_v transitory_o after_o this_o life_n i_o know_v your_o papist_n will_n give_v we_o leave_v to_o doubt_v whether_o the_o dead_a be_v relieve_v by_o our_o prayer_n moreover_o it_o be_v here_o likewise_o to_o be_v observe_v that_o no_o soul_n be_v pray_v or_o offer_v for_o or_o think_v worthy_a to_o be_v remember_v at_o the_o altar_n but_o such_o as_o depart_v in_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n 6._o lib._n 1._o contr._n julian._n &_o lib._n 1_o de_fw-la peccat_fw-la merit_n &_o remiss_a council_n 6._o cap._n 83._o &_o carth._n con._n 3._o cap._n 6._o which_o include_v a_o general_a belief_n of_o those_o time_n that_o none_o but_o communicant_n can_v be_v save_v and_o therefore_o austin_n urge_v it_o as_o hot_o as_o any_o other_o tradition_n that_o the_o eucharist_n as_o well_o as_o baptism_n be_v necessary_a to_o the_o salvation_n of_o all_o even_o of_o new_a bear_v babe_n whereof_o it_o come_v that_o the_o bread_n &_o wine_n be_v then_o thrust_v into_o the_o mouth_n of_o infant_n and_o dead_a carcase_n both_o in_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a church_n forasmuch_o then_o as_o this_o place_n of_o austin_n teach_v two_o point_n of_o general_a doctrine_n one_o that_o prayer_n sacrifice_n and_o alm_n do_v profit_v the_o dead_a the_o other_o that_o none_o can_v be_v save_v but_o communicant_n and_o so_o prayer_n and_o sacrifice_n and_o dole_n to_o be_v make_v for_o no_o other_o we_o think_v ourselves_o no_o more_o bind_v to_o receive_v the_o one_o at_o austin_n hand_n than_o papist_n think_v themselves_o bind_v to_o receive_v the_o other_o furthermore_o these_o

follow_v that_o if_o hell_n fire_n satisfy_v the_o justice_n of_o god_n in_o the_o one_o it_o will_v also_o in_o proportional_a time_n satisfy_v in_o the_o other_o which_o be_v not_o a_o coit_n cast_v from_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o chiliast_n observe_v yet_o further_o that_o austin_n here_o seem_v content_v that_o the_o pearl_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n shall_v be_v lay_v to_o pawn_v for_o very_o evil_a soul_n even_o the_o curse_a enemy_n of_o god_n and_o labour_v to_o excuse_v it_o when_o he_o have_v do_v such_o sacrifice_a say_v he_o be_v some_o comfort_n to_o the_o live_n as_o if_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o pleasure_v the_o affection_n of_o man_n with_o the_o prostitution_n of_o the_o mystery_n of_o god_n &_o where_o he_o say_v elsewhere_o 19_o lib._n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mort_fw-fr cap._n 18._o harding_n artic_a 19_o oportet_fw-la we_o must_v offer_v for_o all_o quia_fw-la non_fw-la discernimus_fw-la because_o we_o can_v sever_v the_o good_a from_o the_o bad_a i_o answer_v that_o his_o quia_fw-la do_v not_o make_v good_a his_o oportet_fw-la for_o the_o sacrifice_n consist_v of_o dead_a element_n can_v apply_v itself_o without_o prayer_n and_o by_o prayer_n we_o may_v easy_o discard_v evil_a and_o curse_a soul_n and_o so_o apply_v this_o pretend_a plaster_n to_o such_o sore_n only_o as_o may_v be_v cure_v there_o be_v yet_o one_o excuse_n more_o behind_o where_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o it_o be_v better_a our_o sacrifice_n shall_v be_v offer_v for_o such_o as_o can_v have_v no_o benefit_n by_o they_o ult._n lib._n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mort_fw-fr cap._n ult._n quám_fw-la ut_fw-la desint_fw-la ijs_fw-la qui_fw-la egent_fw-la sicut_fw-la benefacimus_fw-la iniustis_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la mundo_fw-la ne_fw-la praetereantur_fw-la iusti_fw-la then_o that_o they_o which_o have_v need_n shall_v want_v as_o we_o do_v good_a to_o the_o unrighteous_a in_o the_o world_n lest_o the_o righteous_a shall_v not_o be_v regare_v this_o excuse_n be_v something_o worth_a if_o sacrificare_fw-la pro_fw-la valdè_fw-la malis_fw-la be_v command_v as_o benefacere_fw-la iniustis_fw-la be_v but_o sacrifice_v for_o damn_a soul_n be_v simple_o evil_a we_o must_v learn_v of_o paul_n 3.8_o rom._n 3.8_o not_o to_o do_v evil_a that_o good_a may_v come_v of_o it_o howbeit_o these_o two_o last_o excuse_n teach_v we_o that_o we_o can_v help_v purgatory_n unless_o we_o pray_v for_o hell_n we_o must_v offer_v for_o the_o unjust_a that_o be_v in_o hell_n or_o else_o the_o just_a that_o be_v in_o purgatory_n must_v be_v pretermit_v and_o this_o be_v do_v for_o both_o nay_o for_o all_o tag_n and_o rag_n with_o all_o indifferency_n of_o word_n and_o deed_n in_o one_o uniform_a generality_n of_o prayer_n otherwise_o the_o live_n see_v their_o dead_a in_o any_o one_o point_n neglect_v can_v conceive_v comfort_n but_o grief_n and_o discouragement_n now_o i_o beseech_v you_o consider_v how_o this_o general_a oblation_n can_v possible_o be_v so_o part_v among_o dead_a soul_n that_o for_o some_o it_o be_v eucharistical_a for_o other_o some_o propitiatory_a and_o for_o some_o a_o mere_a nullity_n but_o what_o speak_v i_o of_o part_v it_o must_v be_v all_o eucharistical_a for_o those_o that_o be_v valdè_fw-la boni_fw-la it_o must_v be_v all_o propitiatory_a for_o those_o that_o be_v non_fw-la valdè_fw-la mali_fw-la and_o for_o all_o other_o either_o consolatory_a to_o the_o live_n or_o nullatory_n to_o the_o damn_a be_v this_o possible_a think_v you_o we_o can_v offer_v for_o martyr_n and_o martyr_n fellow_n without_o agimus_fw-la tibi_fw-la gratias_fw-la we_o can_v offer_v for_o purgatorian_o without_o prasta_fw-la quaesumus_fw-la and_o how_o both_o these_o can_v be_v confound_v in_o one_o applicatory_a prayer_n as_o it_o be_v ale_n and_o beer_n in_o one_o pot_n to_o serve_v all_o turn_n at_o once_o it_o be_v far_o beyond_o the_o reach_n of_o my_o wit_n to_o conceive_v beside_o this_o there_o remain_v yet_o another_o inconvenience_n in_o that_o austin_n hold_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o alm_n at_o as_o high_a a_o price_n in_o this_o office_n of_o relieve_n soul_n as_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o altar_n and_o so_o the_o quality_n of_o his_o speech_n seem_v to_o import_v for_o when_o paul_n say_v 6.8_o ephes_n 6.8_o vnusquisque_fw-la quod_fw-la fecerit_fw-la boni_fw-la hoc_fw-la recipiet_fw-la a_o domino_fw-la sive_fw-la seruus_fw-la sive_fw-la libre_fw-la what_o good_a thing_n soever_o a_o man_n do_v that_o shall_v he_o receive_v of_o the_o lord_n whether_o he_o be_v bond_n or_o free_a he_o give_v we_o to_o understand_v that_o in_o respect_n of_o the_o lord_n reward_v of_o virtue_n bond_n and_o free_a be_v of_o equal_a regard_n and_o therefore_o when_o austin_n say_v sacrificia_fw-la pro_fw-la defunctis_fw-la propitiationes_fw-la sunt_fw-la sive_fw-la altaris_fw-la sive_fw-la quarumcunque_fw-la eleemosinarum_fw-la sacrifice_n for_o the_o dead_a be_v propitious_a whether_o they_o be_v of_o the_o altar_n or_o of_o any_o alm_n whatsoever_o his_o meaning_n be_v that_o these_o two_o sacrifice_n in_o respect_n of_o propitiate_a the_o dead_a be_v of_o equal_a estimation_n i_o doubt_v whether_o your_o papist_n will_n allow_v this_o for_o currant_n divinity_n that_o in_o any_o work_n of_o our_o redemption_n corruptible_a thing_n 1.18.19_o 1._o pet._n 1.18.19_o as_o silver_n and_o gold_n give_v in_o alm_n shall_v be_v aequallize_v to_o the_o precious_a blood_n of_o christ_n which_o he_o dream_v to_o be_v real_o present_a in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o if_o it_o shall_v happen_v that_o this_o absurdity_n will_v not_o stop_v his_o course_n yet_o when_o chrysostome_n yield_v great_a power_n to_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o alm_n than_o to_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o altar_n i_o trow_v he_o will_v stop_v there_o if_o he_o be_v not_o desperate_a look_v his_o sermon_n upon_o the_o philippian_n 3_o serm._n 3_o and_o there_o you_o shall_v find_v that_o such_o as_o die_v without_o baptism_n call_v catechumeni_fw-la find_v no_o help_n in_o the_o prayer_n and_o other_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o church_n be_v notwithstanding_o somewhat_o relieve_v by_o alm_n give_v in_o their_o name_n to_o the_o poor_a omni_fw-la huiusmodi_fw-la destituti_fw-la sunt_fw-la auxilio_fw-la say_v he_o uno_fw-la quodam_fw-la dempto_fw-la quonam_fw-la illo_fw-la pauperibus_fw-la illorum_fw-la nomine_fw-la dare_v licet_fw-la undeillis_fw-la nonnihil_fw-la refrigerij_fw-la accedit_fw-la they_o be_v destitute_a of_o every_o such_o help_n one_o only_o except_v and_o what_o be_v that_o man_n may_v give_v somewhat_o to_o the_o poor_a for_o their_o sake_n whereby_o they_o receyve_v some_o refresh_n heerehence_a therefore_o we_o may_v safe_o gather_v i_o think_v that_o austin_n and_o chrysostom_n sacrifice_n be_v not_o the_o same_o with_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n wherein_o a_o popish_a shaveling_n priest_n without_o all_o shame_n or_o fear_v of_o god_n offer_v the_o son_n of_o god_n to_o his_o father_n concern_v the_o treatise_n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la agenda_fw-la 10._o instit_fw-la lib._n 3._o 5._o 10._o caluin_n have_v true_o censure_v it_o in_o these_o word_n tot_o haetitationes_fw-la continet_fw-la ut_fw-la svo_fw-la frigore_fw-la meritò_fw-la debeat_fw-la stulti_fw-la zeli_fw-la calorem_fw-la extinguere_fw-la etc._n etc._n it_o contain_v so_o many_o doubt_n that_o the_o coldness_n thereof_o may_v just_o extinguish_v the_o heat_n of_o foolish_a zeal_n and_o a_o little_a after_o haec_fw-la una_fw-la ect_fw-la fultura_fw-la quia_fw-la invaluit_fw-la consuetudo_fw-la etc._n etc._n if_o that_o book_n have_v any_o better_a help_n than_o haesitation_n and_o likelihood_n and_o custom_n let_v they_o be_v bring_v to_o light_v that_o we_o may_v see_v they_o if_o it_o have_v no_o other_o no_o reason_n the_o bare_a freeze_a authority_n of_o any_o man_n live_v or_o dead_a hang_v upon_o unchawed_a and_o undigested_a conjecture_n shall_v keep_v we_o in_o prison_n 64._o epist_n 64._o the_o epistle_n to_o aurelius_n which_o we_o be_v likewise_o will_v to_o read_v have_v this_o say_n oblationes_fw-la pro_fw-la spiritibus_fw-la dormientium_fw-la quas_fw-la veer_fw-la aliquid_fw-la adiware_fw-la credendum_fw-la est_fw-la super_fw-la ipsas_fw-la memorias_fw-la non_fw-la fint_fw-la sumptuosae_fw-la atque_fw-la omnibus_fw-la petentibus_fw-la sive_fw-la typho_n &_o cum_fw-la alacritate_fw-la prebeantur_fw-la nequé_fw-fr vendantur_fw-la sed_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la proreligione_fw-la aliquid_fw-la pecuniae_fw-la offer_n voluerit_fw-la in_fw-la praesenti_fw-la pauperibus_fw-la erogetur_fw-la ita_fw-la nec_fw-la deserere_fw-la videbuntur_fw-la memorias_fw-la suorum_fw-la quod_fw-la potest_fw-la gignere_fw-la non_fw-la levem_fw-la cordis_fw-la dolorem_fw-la &_o id_fw-la celebrabitur_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la quod_fw-la piè_fw-fr honestequé_fw-fr celebratur_fw-la the_o offering_n for_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o dead_a which_o we_o must_v believe_v do_v indeed_o somewhat_o help_v let_v they_o not_o be_v sumptuous_a over_o their_o memory_n and_o let_v they_o be_v give_v to_o all_o that_o ask_v they_o without_o disdain_n &_o cheerful_o &_o not_o sell_v but_o if_o any_o man_n for_o religion_n sake_n will_v offer_v any_o money_n let_v

it_o be_v present_o bestow_v on_o the_o poor_a so_o shall_v man_n not_o seem_v to_o forsake_v the_o memory_n of_o their_o friend_n which_o may_v be_v occasion_n of_o no_o small_a grief_n of_o heart_n and_o that_o which_o be_v celebrate_v in_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v godly_o and_o honest_o celebrate_v it_o be_v not_o very_o easy_a to_o guess_v what_o these_o oblation_n be_v for_o the_o sacrament_n can_v be_v sumptuous_a unless_o we_o meet_v some_o precious_a stone_n of_o great_a value_n in_o the_o communion_n cup_n as_o cleopatra_n do_v in_o a_o cup_n of_o ippocras_n other_o oblation_n can_v be_v sell_v nor_o yet_o give_v to_o every_o one_o that_o ask_v they_o if_o it_o be_v say_v that_o the_o sacrament_n may_v be_v call_v sumptuous_a not_o in_o itself_o but_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o pomp_n and_o costly_a bravery_n of_o funeral_n it_o be_v easy_o see_v that_o austin_n here_o speak_v not_o of_o funeral_n but_o memorial_n which_o as_o they_o be_v sumptuous_a so_o be_v they_o celebrate_v with_o feast_v and_o joy_n not_o with_o mournful_a call_n upon_o god_n for_o a_o gaol_n delivery_n and_o therefore_o we_o may_v better_o understand_v this_o same_o aliquid_fw-la adiunare_fw-la somewhat_o to_o help_v of_o help_v the_o live_n who_o otherwise_o may_v conceive_v sorrow_n of_o heart_n or_o of_o the_o inflame_a of_o man_n devotion_n to_o zeal_n and_o fervency_n of_o prayer_n when_o they_o behold_v the_o representation_n of_o the_o death_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o reverend_a mystery_n then_o of_o offering_n christ_n in_o sacrifice_n to_o god_n his_o father_n for_o the_o relief_n of_o the_o dead_a vero_fw-la aliquid_fw-la adiware_fw-la credendum_fw-la est_fw-la we_o may_v believe_v that_o they_o do_v indeed_o help_v somewhat_o say_v augustine_n but_o that_o every_o one_o that_o celebrate_v the_o memory_n of_o his_o friend_n shall_v believe_v that_o his_o friend_n soul_n be_v in_o purgatory_n crave_v yearly_a relief_n at_o his_o hand_n that_o say_v not_o austin_n it_o may_v be_v his_o friend_n soul_n be_v in_o heaven_n it_o may_v be_v it_o be_v in_o hell_n it_o may_v be_v it_o be_v deliver_v out_o of_o purgatory_n the_o last_o year_n or_o the_o year_n before_o and_o therefore_o it_o may_v be_v that_o oblation_n can_v not_o help_v he_o and_o so_o consequent_o that_o austin_n credendum_fw-la in_o this_o case_n be_v no_o whit_n better_o than_o a_o ignorandum_n howbeit_o you_o may_v tell_v your_o papist_n that_o this_o place_n be_v not_o for_o his_o profit_n for_o if_o his_o mass_a soul_n priest_n may_v not_o sell_v his_o oblation_n and_o prayer_n but_o give_v they_o free_o and_o cheerful_o to_o all_o that_o ask_v that_o poor_a man_n will_v hardly_o be_v able_a to_o keep_v a_o concubine_n austin_n see_v that_o veniale_a peccatum_fw-la venial_a sin_n be_v like_a to_o prove_v venale_n venal_n or_o set_v to_o sale_n and_o therefore_o he_o say_v prebeantur_fw-la neque_fw-la vendantur_fw-la let_v they_o be_v give_v not_o sell_v but_o now_o no_o money_n no_o mass_n no_o penny_n no_o pater_fw-la noster_fw-la wherefore_o to_o conclude_v all_o in_o a_o word_n if_o this_o have_v be_v austin_n faith_n he_o will_v not_o have_v teach_v it_o so_o loose_o and_o untowardlie_a yet_o howsoever_o he_o teach_v it_o as_o faith_n or_o opinion_n or_o custom_n or_o what_o else_o soever_o the_o faith_n of_o one_o modern_a sacrifice_n sacrificatorians_n be_v of_o another_o edition_n the_o dialogue_n sectio_fw-la viii_o saint_n ambrose_n who_o he_o who_o this_o ambrose_n never_o see_v s._n austin_n nor_o s._n austin_n he_o convert_v saint_n austin_n to_o the_o faith_n die_v likewise_o hold_v and_o practice_v the_o same_o doctrine_n for_o thus_o he_o pray_v before_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o divine_a mystery_n let_v the_o invisible_a form_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n descend_v to_o teach_v i_o thy_o unworthy_a priest_n reverent_o to_o handle_v so_o high_a a_o mystery_n that_o thou_o may_v merciful_o receive_v at_o my_o hand_n this_o sacrifice_n to_o the_o help_n both_o of_o quick_a and_o dead_a precatio_fw-la prima_fw-la praeparans_fw-la ad_fw-la ambrose_n ad_fw-la the_o word_n missa_fw-la be_v not_o to_o be_v find_v in_o all_o ambrose_n missam_fw-la the_o answer_n belike_o ambrose_n and_o austin_n must_v agree_v in_o all_o point_n because_o the_o one_o convert_v the_o other_o otherwise_o this_o tale_n of_o austin_n conversion_n be_v tell_v out_o of_o season_n but_o by_o your_o leave_n if_o this_o counterfect_a prayer_n be_v construe_v after_o the_o popish_a fashion_n i_o doubt_v whether_o austin_n will_v give_v it_o allowance_n howbeit_o suppose_v this_o jacke_n straw_n to_o be_v the_o right_a ambrose_n i_o answer_v that_o he_o speak_v not_o here_o of_o this_o mystery_n as_o it_o be_v a_o sacrament_n put_v we_o in_o mind_n of_o god_n for_o then_o the_o virtue_n of_o it_o can_v not_o depend_v upon_o the_o worthiness_n the_o reverend_a or_o irreverent_a handle_n of_o the_o priest_n but_o as_o it_o be_v a_o sacrifice_n put_v god_n in_o mind_n of_o we_o now_o if_o ambrose_n purpose_v to_o offer_v up_o the_o very_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n in_o sacrifice_n to_o his_o father_n the_o absurdity_n of_o receive_v it_o merciful_o in_o regard_n of_o his_o reverend_a handle_n remain_v still_o for_o the_o real_a body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n have_v be_v acceptable_a to_o god_n of_o itself_o without_o help_n of_o ambroses_n holiness_n 8._o contr._n epist_n par._n lib._n 2._o cap._n 8._o austin_n can_v not_o abide_v that_o parmenian_n shall_v say_v that_o the_o bishop_n be_v mediator_n between_o god_n and_o the_o people_n and_o avouch_v that_o if_o saint_n john_n have_v take_v so_o much_o upon_o he_o every_o good_a faithful_a christian_n will_v have_v take_v he_o for_o antichrist_n rather_o than_o the_o apostle_n of_o christ_n and_o therefore_o if_o ambrose_n have_v pray_v that_o god_n will_v merciful_o receive_v the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o his_o son_n at_o his_o hand_n make_v himself_o mediator_n between_o the_o son_n of_o god_n and_o his_o father_n as_o popish_a priest_n venture_v to_o do_v at_o this_o day_n in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n i_o may_v well_o think_v austin_n notwithstanding_o his_o conversion_n will_v have_v detest_v it_o 2._o lib._n 4._o part_n 2._o cum_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la oraverit_fw-la prohostia_fw-la transubstantianda_fw-la eamque_fw-la transubstantiatan_n patri_fw-la obtulerit_fw-la orat_fw-la pro_fw-la ipsius_fw-la acceptatione_n when_o the_o priest_n pray_v for_o transubstantiate_v of_o the_o host_n and_o do_v offer_v it_o be_v transubstantiate_v to_o the_o father_n he_o pray_v for_o the_o acceptation_n of_o it_o thus_o say_v durand_n and_o the_o priest_n in_o the_o mass_n desire_v god_n to_o look_v propitio_fw-la ac_fw-la sereno_fw-la vultu_fw-la propitious_o and_o cheerful_o upon_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n his_o son_n and_o to_o receive_v the_o same_o as_o once_o he_o receive_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o abel_n etc._n etc._n this_o be_v a_o presumptuous_a and_o a_o desperate_a blasphemy_n yet_o must_v we_o either_o make_v ambrose_n guilty_a of_o it_o in_o this_o prayer_n or_o else_o see_v he_o discharge_v of_o transubstantiation_n there_o be_v a_o full_a discourse_n in_o irenaeus_n where_o it_o be_v prove_v out_o of_o the_o scripture_n 34._o lib._n 4._o cap._n 34._o that_o god_n ever_o accept_v he_o that_o offer_v better_o than_o the_o offering_n and_o that_o no_o oblation_n be_v please_v unto_o god_n when_o he_o that_o offer_v it_o do_v not_o please_v he_o better_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v say_v in_o genesis_n 4.4.5_o cap._n 4.4.5_o that_o the_o lord_n have_v respect_n unto_o abel_n and_o his_o offering_n but_o unto_o cain_n and_o his_o offering_n he_o have_v no_o regard_n and_o if_o the_o offering_n of_o a_o wicked_a man_n be_v acceptable_a to_o god_n it_o have_v be_v out_o of_o season_n to_o charge_v that_o man_n to_o go_v away_o from_o the_o altar_n to_o be_v reconcile_v with_o his_o brother_n 5.23_o matth._n 5.23_o before_o he_o presume_v to_o offer_v his_o oblation_n so_o long_o as_o a_o man_n choose_v his_o own_o way_n and_o inward_o delight_v in_o abomination_n etc._n esa_n 66.23_o etc._n etc._n his_o kill_n of_o a_o bullock_n be_v as_o if_o he_o slay_v a_o man_n his_o sacrifice_v a_o sheep_n as_o if_o he_o cut_v off_o a_o dog_n neck_n his_o offering_n a_o oblation_n as_o if_o he_o offer_v swine_n flesh_n and_o such_o a_o man_n offer_v incense_n to_o god_n be_v as_o if_o he_o bless_v a_o idol_n it_o come_v to_o pass_v often_o among_o man_n that_o the_o wicked_a be_v accept_v for_o his_o gift_n and_o so_o absolve_v because_o the_o judge_n be_v either_o needy_a or_o covetous_a but_o god_n have_v no_o need_n of_o our_o sacrifice_n he_o neither_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o bull_n nor_o drink_v the_o blood_n of_o goat_n 50.30_o psal_n 50.30_o he_o neither_o eat_v bread_n nor_o drink_v wine_n

not_o think_v his_o knot_n be_v yet_o loose_v there_o be_v nothing_o say_v he_o in_o the_o sacrament_n that_o be_v incomprehensible_a but_o epiphanius_n say_v not_o so_o though_o he_o say_v it_o neither_o can_v it_o be_v infer_v out_o of_o quot_fw-la sunt_fw-la &_o similia_fw-la sunt_fw-la for_o the_o image_n of_o god_n be_v comprehensible_a in_o adam_n though_o it_o be_v deface_v in_o we_o and_o thing_n may_v be_v similia_fw-la secundum_fw-la magis_fw-la &_o minus_fw-la but_o not_o to_o multiply_v quarrel_n let_v we_o grant_v that_o he_o say_v to_o be_v true_a what_o then_o marry_o than_o i_o will_v learn_v say_v he_o if_o it_o be_v not_o christ_n true_a body_n real_o present_a but_o a_o figure_n thereof_o what_o wonder_n or_o incomprehensible_a matter_n be_v there_o here_o be_v a_o little_a pretty_a it_o three_o time_n repeat_v in_o the_o knit_n of_o this_o knot_n it_o be_v his_o body_n it_o be_v not_o like_a to_o a_o natural_a body_n and_o if_o it_o be_v not_o christ_n body_n etc._n etc._n i_o beseech_v you_o what_o mean_v this_o man_n by_o his_o it_z be_v it_o something_o or_o be_v it_o nothing_o or_o what_o be_v it_o epiphanius_n say_v it_o be_v of_o a_o round_a form_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o accidens_fw-la for_o rotundum_fw-la be_v not_o accidens_fw-la but_o rotunditas_fw-la if_o it_o be_v a_o substance_n than_o it_o must_v be_v either_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v of_o a_o round_a form_n or_o else_o it_o must_v be_v bread_n and_o so_o indeed_o all_o the_o three_o evangelist_n be_v bold_a to_o call_v it_o 28._o math._n 26_o 26._o mark_n 14_o 22._o luk._n 22_o 19_o 1._o cor._n 10_o 16.17_o 1._o cor._n 11_o 23_o 26_o 27_o 28._o and_o so_o be_v the_o apostle_n paul_n twice_o in_o one_o chapter_n and_o four_o time_n in_o another_o and_o he_o himself_o for_o all_o this_o mince_n of_o the_o matter_n come_v down_o in_o the_o end_n out_o of_o the_o cloud_n and_o confess_v the_o sacrament_n to_o be_v of_o a_o round_a form_n whereof_o it_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v neither_o a_o accident_n nor_o the_o real_a substance_n of_o christ_n body_n but_o bread_n as_o the_o scripture_n call_v it_o now_o for_o the_o unloose_n of_o his_o knot_n i_o say_v that_o it_o be_v incomprehensible_a how_o a_o round_a piece_n of_o bread_n shall_v be_v such_o a_o figure_n as_o be_v worthy_a to_o be_v call_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n and_o so_o to_o exhibit_v and_o convey_v the_o grace_n and_o merit_n of_o christ_n passion_n into_o we_o that_o our_o sin_n be_v remit_v our_o faith_n increase_v and_o we_o incorporate_v and_o make_v member_n of_o his_o body_n of_o his_o flesh_n and_o of_o his_o bone_n let_v he_o show_v i_o that_o this_o be_v not_o far_o beyond_o the_o comprehension_n of_o man_n reason_n and_o i_o will_v give_v he_o his_o ask_n but_o for_o a_o full_a clear_n of_o epiphanius_n it_o be_v to_o be_v remember_v that_o mane_n and_o his_o disciple_n live_v upon_o the_o sweat_n of_o other_o man_n brow_n and_o suppose_v all_o thing_n to_o have_v life_n &_o soul_n as_o man_n have_v be_v wont_a to_o consecrate_v the_o bread_n and_o wine_n that_o be_v give_v they_o to_o fill_v their_o slow_a belly_n withal_o after_o this_o sort_n ego_fw-la non_fw-la seminavite_n non_fw-la messui_fw-la te_fw-la non_fw-la molui_fw-la in_fw-la clibanum_fw-la non_fw-la misi_fw-la alius_fw-la obtulit_fw-la &_o comedi_fw-la innoxius_fw-la sum_fw-la etc._n etc._n i_o sow_v thou_o not_o i_o reap_v thou_o not_o i_o ground_n thou_o not_o i_o bake_v thou_o not_o another_o offer_v it_o and_o i_o do_v eat_v i_o be_o innocent_a etc._n etc._n whereunto_o epiphanius_n answer_v ipsi_fw-la non_fw-la recidunt_fw-la botrun_v sed_fw-la edunt_fw-la botrun_v medium_n haeres_fw-la 66._o circa_fw-la medium_n utrum_fw-la gravius_fw-la est_fw-la etenim_fw-la vindemian_n semel_fw-la recidit_fw-la botrun_v qui_fw-la vero_fw-la comedit_fw-la per_fw-la dentes_fw-la sectores_fw-la ac_fw-la manducatores_fw-la singula_fw-la grana_fw-la edomat_fw-la &_o per_fw-la hoc_fw-la magis_fw-la multipliciter_fw-la torquet_fw-la ac_fw-la secat_fw-la &_o non_fw-la amplius_fw-la similis_fw-la erit_fw-la ei_fw-la qui_fw-la semel_fw-la secuit_fw-la be_v qui_fw-la manducavit_fw-la &_o consumpsit_fw-la they_o cut_v not_o the_o bunch_n of_o grape_n but_o they_o eat_v it_o which_o be_v great_a the_o grape-gatherer_n do_v once_o cut_v the_o vine_n but_o he_o that_o eat_v it_o do_v cut_v and_o grind_v with_o his_o tooth_n all_o the_o grace_n and_o in_o the_o respect_n he_o do_v torment_v it_o much_o more_o and_o he_o that_o have_v eat_v and_o consume_v it_o be_v no_o long_o like_v to_o he_o that_o only_o once_o cut_v it_o you_o hear_v what_o epiphanius_n say_v for_o confutation_n of_o the_o manichy_n now_o consider_v how_o that_o he_o say_v can_v possible_o be_v good_a if_o the_o live_a sensitive_a body_n of_o christ_n blood_n and_o all_o be_v eat_v of_o the_o catholic_n may_v not_o the_o manichy_n than_o reply_v that_o they_o be_v more_o to_o be_v bear_v withal_o that_o be_v compel_v by_o hunger_n and_o thirst_n to_o eat_v and_o drink_v live_v thing_n of_o mean_a regard_n cry_v for_o grief_n ego_fw-la non_fw-la seminavi_fw-la te_fw-la non_fw-la messui_fw-la non_fw-la molui_fw-la &c_n &c_n than_o epiphanius_n and_o his_o catholic_n that_o presume_v to_o eat_v the_o live_a flesh_n of_o christ_n and_o to_o drink_v his_o blood_n very_o epiphanius_n be_v learned_a &_o wise_a will_v not_o have_v leave_v his_o reason_n in_o this_o case_n wide_o open_a without_o either_o fence_n or_o shelter_v against_o the_o adversary_n if_o the_o real_a presence_n and_o manducation_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n have_v be_v catholicke_o believe_v in_o his_o time_n peter_n in_o the_o act_n when_o a_o voice_n from_o heaven_n command_v he_o to_o kill_v and_o eat_v though_o he_o be_v hungry_a and_o in_o a_o trance_n yet_o he_o forget_v not_o the_o law_n of_o god_n but_o answer_v god_n forbid_v lord_n for_o nothing_o pollute_v or_o unclean_a have_v ever_o enter_v into_o my_o mouth_n and_o shall_v we_o think_v that_o the_o same_o peter_n when_o our_o saviour_n say_v take_v etc._n act._n 10_o 10._o etc._n etc._n et_fw-la cap._n 11_o 5_o etc._n etc._n eat_z this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o take_v drink_n this_o be_v my_o blood_n will_v never_o make_v any_o question_n neither_o he_o nor_o any_o of_o his_o fellow_n apostle_n against_o the_o eat_n of_o man_n flesh_n and_o drink_v man_n blood_n if_o they_o have_v understand_v the_o word_n of_o christ_n after_o the_o popish_a fashion_n even_o so_o he_o that_o think_v that_o epiphanius_n hold_v the_o real_a eat_n and_o drink_v of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n will_v dispute_v so_o loose_o as_o he_o do_v against_o the_o manichy_n must_v needs_o think_v withal_o that_o his_o wit_n be_v in_o a_o deep_a trance_n than_o saint_n peter_n and_o so_o fit_a to_o gather_v wool_n than_o to_o confute_v heretic_n the_o dialogue_n sectio_fw-la xvii_o i_o will_v leave_v this_o knot_n for_o you_o to_o unloose_v at_o better_a leisure_n and_o assay_v you_o with_o another_o argument_n to_o prove_v the_o you_o the_o this_o will_v you_o never_o prove_v while_o you_o live_v nor_o your_o child_n after_o you_o consent_n of_o all_o ancient_a father_n and_o the_o uniform_a practice_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n in_o this_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n but_o first_o i_o will_v set_v down_o certain_a place_n out_o of_o the_o father_n whereon_o to_o ground_v my_o argument_n although_o i_o have_v already_o use_v the_o same_o place_n for_o the_o proof_n of_o prayer_n for_o the_o dead_a this_o custom_n say_v they_o say_v these_o place_n be_v answer_v all_o of_o they_o saint_n austin_n the_o universal_a church_n do_v observe_v be_v deliver_v by_o tradition_n from_o the_o elder_n that_o whereas_o at_o the_o time_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n commemoration_n be_v make_v of_o all_o soul_n depart_v in_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n they_o shall_v be_v pray_v for_o and_o that_o the_o sacrifice_n also_o shall_v be_v offer_v for_o they_o de_fw-fr verb._n apost_n sermone_fw-la 32._o you_o shall_v also_o find_v that_o there_o be_v a_o sacrifice_n offer_v for_o the_o quick_a and_o dead_a in_o saint_n ambrose_n his_o first_o prayer_n praeparans_fw-la ad_fw-la missam_fw-la and_o in_o tertullians_n book_n de_fw-la monogamia_fw-la about_o the_o midst_n of_o the_o book_n the_o place_n begin_v dic_fw-la mihi_fw-la soror_fw-la in_o pace_n etc._n etc._n hereby_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o you_o that_o how_o many_o age_n be_v they_o i_o pray_v you_o in_o all_o these_o age_n the_o church_n do_v 15_o do_v that_o be_v to_o say_v signum_fw-la &_o repraesentationem_fw-la sacrificij_fw-la aug._n the_o civet_n dei_fw-la lib._n 10._o cap._n 15_o offer_v a_o sacrifice_n for_o the_o quick_a and_o the_o dead_a which_o be_v agree_v upon_o

as_o justine_n martyr_n and_o tertullian_n testify_v that_o the_o christian_n in_o their_o time_n do_v sacrifice_n not_o only_o by_o thanksgiving_n which_o be_v for_o benefit_n receive_v but_o also_o by_o prayer_n which_o be_v for_o benefit_n to_o be_v receive_v the_o edge_n of_o this_o wise_a dispute_n be_v utter_o blunt_v to_o go_v yet_o a_o little_a further_o if_o it_o shall_v be_v grant_v he_o that_o this_o sacrament_n be_v a_o sacrifice_n absolute_o in_o itself_o yet_o i_o hope_v it_o can_v relieve_v soul_n nor_o do_v any_o such_o feat_n by_o itself_o as_o it_o consist_v of_o dead_a element_n unless_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n and_o give_v of_o thanks_n be_v annex_v unto_o it_o for_o he_o that_o neither_o pray_v nor_o give_v thanks_n be_v he_o pry_v or_o king_n aaron_n or_o melchisedecke_n can_v be_v say_v to_o offer_v this_o sacrifice_n and_o relieve_v soul_n it_o can_v unless_o it_o be_v offer_v now_o then_o see_v the_o unskilfulnesse_n of_o this_o prate_a disputer_n who_o tear_v into_o piece_n thing_n that_o be_v inseparable_o knit_v together_o and_o so_o in_o this_o foolish_a fit_n desire_v to_o know_v whether_o this_o sacrifice_n be_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o protestant_n communion_n the_o sacrifice_n of_o prayer_n or_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o thanksgiving_n let_v he_o show_v i_o that_o either_o his_o mass_n or_o our_o communion_n be_v say_v or_o sing_v without_o prayer_n and_o thanksgiving_n or_o else_o let_v he_o hold_v his_o peace_n till_o he_o have_v learned_a to_o dispute_v better_o augustine_n distinguish_v his_o sacrifice_n from_o prayer_n and_o thanksgiving_n but_o he_o do_v not_o separate_v they_o and_o so_o his_o meaning_n must_v needs_o be_v that_o our_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n be_v profitable_a at_o all_o time_n but_o special_o then_o when_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n be_v minister_v and_o our_o soul_n inflame_v thereby_o and_o stir_v up_o to_o great_a devotion_n 3._o in_o philip_n hom_n 3._o and_o hereunto_o chrysostome_n accord_v say_v stante_fw-la universo_fw-la populo_fw-la manus_fw-la in_o caelos_fw-la extendente_fw-la caetuitem_fw-la sacerdotali_fw-la verendoque_fw-la posito_fw-la sacrificie_fw-la quomodò_fw-la deum_fw-la non_fw-la placaremus_fw-la pro_fw-la istis_fw-la orantes_fw-la the_o whole_a people_n stand_v and_o lift_v up_o their_o hand_n to_o heaven_n as_o also_o that_o company_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o the_o reverend_a sacrifice_n lay_v before_o how_o shall_v we_o not_o appease_v god_n when_o we_o pray_v for_o they_o this_o be_v sufficient_a to_o show_v that_o the_o prick_a argument_n you_o speak_v of_o draw_v no_o blood_n and_o that_o they_o may_v be_v answer_v sine_fw-la sanguine_fw-la &_o sudore_fw-la yet_o a_o knack_n or_o two_o of_o popish_a knavery_n be_v here_o to_o be_v discover_v that_o you_o may_v the_o better_o see_v the_o sleight_n of_o these_o companion_n for_o when_o he_o foresee_v out_o answer_v to_o austin_n like_v to_o be_v as_o i_o have_v set_v it_o down_o he_o think_v it_o his_o best_a way_n to_o falsify_v austin_n testimony_n after_o this_o pretty_a fashion_n austin_n say_v that_o at_o the_o time_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n prayer_n be_v make_v for_o the_o dead_a and_o that_o the_o sacrifice_n be_v also_o offer_v for_o they_o but_o do_v austin_n say_v that_o the_o sacrifice_n be_v offer_v at_o the_o time_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n be_v it_o credible_a that_o austin_n speak_v so_o foolish_o no_o friend_n papist_n austin_n word_n be_v these_o pro_fw-la defunctis_fw-la cum_fw-la ad_fw-la ipsum_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la loco_fw-la svo_fw-la commemorantur_fw-la oretur_fw-la ac_fw-la pro_fw-la illis_fw-la quoque_fw-la id_fw-la offerri_fw-la commemoretur_fw-la the_o dead_a must_v be_v pray_v for_o when_o they_o be_v remember_v at_o the_o sacrifice_n in_o their_o order_n and_o must_v be_v declare_v that_o it_o be_v offer_v also_o for_o they_o that_o be_v when_o the_o dead_a be_v mention_v in_o their_o order_n at_o the_o time_n of_o the_o sacrifice_n let_v they_o be_v pray_v for_o and_o that_o the_o people_n may_v be_v stir_v up_o to_o pray_v the_o more_o devout_o let_v it_o be_v tell_v they_o also_o that_o the_o same_o sacrifice_n be_v offer_v for_o they_o and_o for_o the_o better_a explication_n of_o his_o meaning_n austin_n present_o after_o in_o the_o same_o place_n as_o chrysostome_n in_o the_o place_n before_o allege_v mention_v prayer_n and_o not_o the_o sacrifice_n say_v orationes_fw-la deo_fw-la non_fw-la inaniter_fw-la allegantur_fw-la prayer_n be_v not_o direct_v in_o vain_a to_o god_n whereby_o inclusive_a such_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v as_o be_v sharpen_v and_o set_v on_o edge_n by_o the_o celebration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n again_o observe_v how_o your_o papist_n let_v slip_v the_o protestant_n communion_n through_o his_o finger_n and_o conclude_v no_o more_o but_o thus_o therefore_o this_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o church_n be_v either_o the_o protestant_n communion_n or_o else_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n well_o but_o be_v this_o all_o he_o purpose_v to_o prove_v with_o his_o sprinkle_v argument_n if_o this_o be_v all_o our_o controversy_n will_v soon_o be_v at_o a_o end_n and_o yet_o he_o never_o the_o near_a his_o transubstantiation_n no_o no_o this_o be_v not_o the_o daysie_a which_o he_o skip_v at_o he_o must_v prove_v that_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o church_n which_o the_o ancient_a father_n speak_v of_o be_v the_o sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n and_o no_o other_o and_o that_o shall_v he_o never_o be_v able_a to_o do_v till_o he_o have_v remove_v the_o protestant_n communion_n as_o well_o as_o prayer_n and_o thanksgiving_n out_o of_o his_o way_n this_o he_o can_v not_o but_o know_v if_o he_o have_v any_o wit_n in_o his_o head_n &_o therefore_o what_o can_v be_v say_v else_o to_o this_o but_o that_o the_o protestant_n communion_n be_v too_o to_o hot_a for_o he_o han-dle_a and_o that_o all_o the_o wit_n and_o learning_n he_o have_v be_v not_o able_a to_o outface_v it_o the_o dialogue_n sectio_fw-la xviii_o pro_fw-la i_o may_v say_v unto_o you_o here_o as_o the_o auditor_n in_o tusculan_n question_n say_v unto_o marcus_n spinosiota_n haec_fw-la prius_fw-la ut_fw-la confitear_fw-la i_o cogunt_fw-la quàm_fw-la ut_fw-la assentiar_fw-la your_o prick_a argument_n do_v rather_o compel_v i_o to_o grant_v than_o persuade_v i_o to_o consent_v for_o although_o by_o my_o silence_n i_o may_v seem_v to_o grant_v as_o not_o be_v able_a to_o unloose_v your_o gordions_a knot_n yet_o be_o i_o so_o far_o from_o consent_n as_o i_o be_v at_o the_o begin_n of_o this_o conference_n which_o bring_v to_o my_o remembrance_n a_o merry_a tale_n i_o have_v hear_v of_o a_o scholar_n of_o oxford_n who_o have_v attain_v some_o pretty_a skill_n in_o sophistry_n will_v needs_o take_v upon_o he_o to_o prove_v unto_o his_o father_n by_o the_o rule_n of_o logic_n that_o two_o chicking_n which_o be_v set_v upon_o the_o board_n in_o a_o dish_n be_v three_o the_o father_n although_o he_o can_v not_o unfold_v his_o son_n argument_n yet_o be_v he_o so_o far_o from_o be_v persuade_v by_o they_o as_o i_o be_o now_o from_o be_v persuade_v by_o you_o and_o for_o a_o infallible_a demonstration_n that_o he_o can_v not_o be_v deceive_v in_o his_o opinion_n he_o take_v unto_o himself_o the_o two_o chicken_n leave_v the_o three_o which_o lie_v one_o lie_v as_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n do_v in_o the_o pix_n for_o foolish_a papist_n to_o feed_v one_o invisible_o in_o the_o empty_a dish_n for_o the_o logician_n to_o feed_v upon_o even_o so_o although_o you_o have_v prove_v your_o assertion_n by_o such_o argument_n as_o i_o be_o do_v be_o it_o be_v not_o so_o hard_a a_o matter_n to_o do_v not_o able_a to_o answer_v and_o prove_v the_o same_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o such_o reverend_a witness_n as_o i_o can_v except_v against_o yet_o can_v i_o believe_v the_o same_o because_o all_o my_o sense_n together_o with_o infinite_a absurdity_n and_o impossibility_n that_o will_v follow_v thereon_o do_v infallible_o demonstrate_v the_o contrary_a do_v not_o all_o our_o sense_n tell_v we_o that_o christ_n natural_a body_n be_v not_o in_o the_o sacrament_n do_v not_o our_o reason_n and_o understandin_fw-mi teach_v we_o that_o a_o natural_a body_n can_v be_v in_o infinite_a place_n at_o the_o same_o instant_n and_o that_o it_o be_v impossible_a the_o sacrament_n be_v divide_v into_o a_o trinity_n a_o this_o be_v a_o great_a mystery_n than_o the_o mystery_n of_o the_o trinity_n million_o of_o part_n that_o every_o of_o these_o part_n shall_v be_v the_o entire_a body_n of_o christ_n &_o yet_o that_o all_o these_o body_n be_v but_o one_o &_o the_o same_o body_n can_v all_o the_o argument_n and_o reason_n by_o you_o produce_v and_o urge_v be_v more_o forcible_a to_o persuade_v i_o to_o be_v of_o your_o opinion_n than_o these_o demonstration_n to_o

doctrine_n by_o the_o infalliblenesse_n of_o the_o outward_a sense_n 1.1_o 1._o john_n 1.1_o say_v that_o which_o we_o have_v hear_v which_o we_o have_v see_v with_o these_o our_o eye_n which_o we_o have_v look_v upon_o &_o these_o hand_n have_v handle_v of_o that_o word_n of_o life_n that_o i_o say_v which_o we_o have_v see_v and_o hear_v declare_v we_o unto_o you_o not_o that_o you_o may_v be_v heretic_n and_o atheist_n but_o that_o you_o may_v have_v fellowship_n with_o we_o and_o that_o our_o fellowship_n may_v be_v with_o the_o father_n and_o with_o his_o son_n jesus_n christ_n now_o touch_v humane_a reason_n i_o will_v glad_o know_v whether_o our_o papist_n have_n frame_v his_o argument_n with_o it_o or_o without_o it_o if_o with_o it_o let_v he_o take_v heed_n he_o be_v not_o a_o heretic_n or_o a_o atheist_n if_o without_o it_o i_o doubt_v he_o shall_v hardly_o move_v either_o heretic_n or_o catholic_a to_o be_v of_o his_o opinion_n much_o less_o convert_v infidel_n it_o be_v strange_a doctrine_n to_o teach_v man_n never_o to_o use_v the_o help_n of_o humane_a reason_n because_o saint_n paul_n say_v 19_o rom._n 1_o 19_o the_o wisdom_n of_o this_o world_n if_o foolishness_n for_o though_o the_o mystery_n of_o our_o redemption_n in_o christ_n jesu_n be_v far_o beyond_o the_o reach_n of_o man_n wisdom_n yet_o the_o same_o paul_n say_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o you_o may_v be_v know_v concern_v god_n be_v ingraff_v in_o the_o heart_n of_o man_n whereby_o god_n eternal_a power_n and_o godhead_n shine_v in_o his_o work_n be_v know_v unto_o he_o and_o peter_n lombard_n 24._o lib._n 3_o do_v 24._o his_o own_o prophet_n say_v quaedan_n fide_fw-la creduntur_fw-la quae_fw-la intelliguntur_fw-la naturali_fw-la ratione_fw-la something_o be_v be_v believe_v by_o faith_n which_o be_v understand_v by_o natural_a reason_n but_o to_o make_v short_a work_n paul_n say_v indeed_o that_o the_o natural_a man_n perceive_v not_o the_o thing_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n and_o god_n forbid_v we_o shall_v deny_v it_o but_o yet_o the_o same_o apostle_n present_o after_o say_v etc._n 1._o cor._n 2.14_o etc._n etc._n again_o the_o spiritual_a man_n discern_v all_o thing_n now_o let_v he_o show_v we_o that_o papist_n be_v spiritual_a man_n and_o protestant_n natural_a man_n and_o then_o we_o will_v veil_v the_o bonnet_n of_o his_o insensible_a and_o unreasonable_a assertion_n otherwise_o we_o may_v not_o become_v fool_n and_o run_v mad_a at_o his_o pleasure_n again_o where_o he_o dispute_v that_o a_o infidel_n may_v reject_v the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o dead_a the_o mystery_n of_o the_o trinity_n the_o eternity_n of_o the_o son_n of_o god_n the_o come_n in_o of_o christ_n in_o his_o natural_a body_n to_o his_o disciple_n the_o door_n be_v shut_v and_o such_o like_a article_n of_o our_o christian_a faith_n as_o well_o as_o we_o may_v reject_v the_o real_a presence_n in_o the_o sacrament_n you_o may_v see_v the_o pure_a simplicity_n of_o this_o man_n who_o make_v christ_n entrance_n through_o a_o shut_a door_n to_o be_v a_o article_n of_o faith_n howbeit_o his_o master_n of_o sentence_n find_v document_n of_o the_o trinity_n in_o thing_n create_v and_o saint_n austin_n say_v 20._o lib._n 1._o do_v 3._o de_fw-fr trinitate_fw-la lib._n 6._o cap._n 20._o oportet_fw-la ut_fw-la creatorem_fw-la per_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la facta_fw-la sunt_fw-la intellecta_fw-la conspicientes_fw-la trinitatem_fw-la intelligamus_fw-la it_o behoove_v we_o that_o we_o behold_v in_o understand_v the_o creator_n by_o the_o thing_n which_o be_v create_v shall_v understand_v the_o trinity_n again_o tertullian_n have_v write_v a_o book_n de_fw-fr resurrectione_n carnis_fw-la and_o athenagoras_n a_o christian_a philosopher_n have_v write_v another_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o dead_a athenagoras_n tertullian_n athenagoras_n wherein_o this_o article_n of_o faith_n be_v sound_o prove_v by_o humane_a reason_n and_o it_o be_v a_o sure_a ground_n that_o god_n can_v be_v without_o his_o power_n and_o wisdom_n and_o that_o the_o father_n be_v fons_n &_o origo_fw-la deitatis_fw-la as_o sol_fw-mi be_v fons_fw-la &_o origo_fw-la lucis_fw-la the_o fountain_n and_o original_n of_o the_o godhead_n as_o the_o sun_n be_v the_o fountain_n and_o original_n of_o light_n it_o will_v not_o be_v so_o hard_a to_o conceive_v by_o reason_n that_o the_o son_n of_o god_n may_v be_v beget_v &_o yet_o coeternal_a with_o god_n his_o father_n but_o i_o shall_v not_o need_v to_o labour_v further_o in_o this_o point_n there_o be_v a_o treatise_n write_v purposely_o of_o this_o argument_n by_o philip_n morney_n a_o noble_a man_n of_o france_n morney_n phil._n morney_n wherein_o you_o may_v see_v how_o far_o reason_n may_v wade_v in_o these_o &_o such_o like_a article_n of_o christianity_n &_o therefore_o if_o a_o infidel_n fly_v to_o humane_a reason_n he_o shall_v have_v some_o stay_n to_o lean_v upon_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n whereas_o neither_o he_o nor_o we_o nor_o any_o man_n else_o live_v can_v find_v any_o possibility_n of_o reason_n or_o sense_n to_o induce_v we_o to_o believe_v the_o real_a presence_n howbeit_o he_o may_v do_v well_o to_o teach_v we_o from_o what_o a_o infidel_n shall_v appeal_v to_o the_o arbiterment_n of_o humane_a reason_n be_v it_o like_o that_o any_o man_n will_v press_v a_o infidel_n with_o scripture_n father_n &_o counsel_n &_o so_o to_o drive_v he_o to_o appeal_v to_o reason_n paul_n say_v that_o prophesy_v serve_v not_o for_o infidel_n but_o for_o they_o which_o believe_v 14.22_o 1._o cor._n 14.22_o where_o the_o apostle_n mean_v such_o infidel_n as_o be_v altogether_o stranger_n from_o christian_a doctrine_n and_o must_v be_v win_v by_o sign_n not_o by_o prophesy_v as_o for_o father_n &_o counsel_n we_o may_v not_o prefer_v they_o to_o paul_n and_o peter_n in_o the_o conversion_n of_o a_o infidel_n and_o beside_o that_o infidel_n will_v make_v more_o account_n of_o their_o own_o prophet_n epimenides_n menander_n and_o aratus_n 1.12_o tit._n 1.12_o plato_n hesiode_n and_o homer_n &_o such_o like_a than_o of_o our_o father_n and_o counsel_n yet_o notwithstanding_o if_o we_o shall_v confess_v that_o other_o matter_n of_o faith_n can_v be_v measure_v by_o humane_a reason_n without_o danger_n of_o heresy_n yet_o if_o you_o cleave_v to_o his_o faith_n &_o not_o to_o your_o own_o reason_n in_o the_o real_a presence_n you_o can_v choose_v but_o be_v a_o heretic_n shing_n dial_n 2._o in_o con_v the_o symbol_n or_o sign_n of_o the_o lord_n body_n after_o the_o priest_n have_v invocate_v be_v charge_v &_o make_v other_o shing_n and_o this_o do_v theodoret_n evident_o declare_v in_o one_o of_o his_o dialogue_n where_o the_o heretic_n say_v symbola_fw-la dominici_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o sanguinis_fw-la post_fw-la invocationem_fw-la sacerdotis_fw-la mutantur_fw-la et_fw-la alia_fw-la fiunt_fw-la and_o this_o he_o speak_v of_o a_o substantial_a change_n as_o our_o papist_n do_v at_o this_o day_n but_o the_o catholic_a answer_v signa_fw-la mysticapost_n sanctificationem_fw-la non_fw-la recedunt_fw-la à_fw-la natura_fw-la sva_fw-la manent_fw-la enim_fw-la in_o priori_fw-la substantia_fw-la &_o figura_fw-la &_o forma_fw-la thus_o have_v theodoret_n a_o learned_a and_o ancient_a father_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n write_v almost_o 1200._o year_n ago_o give_v clear_o to_o understand_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o transubstantiation_n be_v not_o catholic_a in_o his_o time_n but_o heretical_a what_o the_o greek_a church_n think_v of_o it_o at_o this_o day_n may_v better_o be_v learn_v by_o the_o last_o session_n of_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n than_o by_o the_o bold_a face_n of_o this_o papist_n who_o head_n be_v so_o full_a of_o uniform_a consent_n and_o argument_n of_o credibilitie_n ultima_fw-la council_n florent_fw-la sess_v ultima_fw-la that_o he_o forget_v how_o many_o of_o the_o evangelist_n speak_v of_o the_o lord_n supper_n see_v then_o what_o ill_a luck_n this_o poor_a man_n have_v that_o both_o his_o uniform_a consent_n fail_v he_o the_o one_o confute_v by_o theodoret_n and_o the_o council_n of_o florence_n the_o other_o by_o saint_n johns_n gospel_n where_o you_o shall_v not_o find_v one_o word_n speak_v of_o the_o sacrament_n all_o the_o four_o evangelist_n quoth_v he_o how_o i_o pray_v you_o in_o think_v word_n or_o deed_n marry_o say_v he_o in_o direct_a and_o plain_a word_n indeed_o the_o word_n of_o three_o evangelist_n be_v direct_a and_o plain_a against_o he_o but_o the_o four_o say_v nothing_o matthew_n &_o mark_v say_v that_o the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n blood_n after_o consecration_n be_v the_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n 20._o math._n 26.29_o mar._n 14.25_o cap._n 22_o 20._o and_o luke_n say_v that_o the_o cup_n be_v the_o new_a testament_n in_o his_o blood_n now_o if_o you_o understand_v by_o the_o cup_n not_o wine_n but_o real_a blood_n it_o will_v follow_v

merit_n for_o so_o the_o same_o popish_a doctor_n confess_v will_v we_o to_o note_v three_o several_a person_n in_o our_o prayer_n unam_fw-la ipsiùs_fw-la dei_fw-la à_fw-la quo_fw-la petimus_fw-la alteram_fw-la christi_fw-la per_fw-la cvius_fw-la meritum_fw-la petimus_fw-la tertiam_fw-la eius_fw-la qui_fw-la petit_fw-la one_o of_o god_n himself_o the_o second_o of_o christ_n through_o who_o merit_n we_o ask_v the_o three_o his_o that_o ask_v and_o so_o conclude_v that_o neither_o the_o first_o nor_o the_o second_o may_v be_v attribute_v to_o dead_a saint_n and_o therefore_o to_o crave_v mercy_n not_o for_o christ_n sake_n but_o for_o peter_n and_o paul_n sake_n and_o to_o be_v deliver_v from_o all_o evil_a not_o by_o the_o merit_n and_o mediation_n of_o christ_n but_o by_o the_o merit_n of_o the_o prophet_n or_o the_o patriarch_n or_o whosoever_o else_o dead_a or_o alive_a be_v not_o allow_v by_o his_o own_o doctor_n yea_o but_o the_o last_o word_n of_o that_o chapter_n de_fw-fr sanctorum_fw-la beatitudine_fw-la teach_v you_o that_o we_o mention_v saint_n in_o our_o prayer_n after_o this_o form_n concede_fw-la nobis_fw-la deus_fw-la intercessione_n huius_fw-la sancti_fw-la tale_n beneficium_fw-la per_fw-la christum_fw-la dominum_fw-la nostrum_fw-la grant_v we_o o_o god_n by_o the_o merit_n of_o such_o a_o saint_n such_o a_o benefit_n through_o christ_n our_o lord_n i_o grant_v you_o that_o this_o be_v set_v down_o as_o a_o pattern_n of_o catholic_a prayer_n wherein_o by_o intercession_n he_o understand_v not_o only_o the_o prayer_n but_o also_o the_o merit_n of_o dead_a saint_n for_o so_o we_o learn_v before_o in_o the_o same_o chapter_n in_o these_o word_n sancte_fw-la petre_n da_fw-la mihi_fw-la hoc_fw-la &_o illud_fw-la tuis_fw-la precibus_fw-la &_o meritis_fw-la saint_n peter_n give_v i_o this_o or_o that_o by_o thy_o prayer_n and_o merit_n also_o per_fw-la christum_fw-la be_v as_o much_o to_o say_v as_o per_fw-la christi_fw-la preces_fw-la &_o merita_fw-la by_o christ_n prayer_n and_o merit_n as_o i_o show_v before_o now_o show_v we_o how_o you_o can_v tell_v that_o either_o hic_fw-la sanctus_fw-la or_o haec_fw-la sancta_fw-la have_v or_o will_v pray_v or_o pawn_v their_o merit_n for_o you_o and_o if_o you_o know_v it_o not_o what_o make_v you_o so_o bold_a as_o to_o speak_v more_o to_o god_n than_o you_o know_v to_o be_v true_a again_o the_o live_a know_v not_o whether_o the_o merit_n of_o these_o or_o those_o saint_n be_v draw_v dry_a for_o they_o can_v supererrogate_v more_o than_o they_o have_v 2_o bellar._n de_fw-mi purge_v lib._n 2._o cap._n 2_o have_v still_o and_o give_v still_o they_o can_v without_o a_o new_a supply_n and_o supply_v they_o can_v have_v none_o after_o this_o life_n so_o likewise_o the_o dead_a know_v not_o whether_o their_o prayer_n and_o merit_n shall_v prevail_v unless_o they_o know_v who_o be_v choose_v who_o be_v reprobate_n that_o can_v be_v know_v because_o god_n have_v seal_v it_o as_o paul_n say_v the_o foundation_n of_o god_n of_o remain_v sure_a 19_o 2._o tim._n 2_o 19_o and_o have_v this_o seal_n the_o lord_n know_v who_o be_v his_o etc._n etc._n wherefore_o either_o the_o saint_n pray_v and_o bestow_v their_o merit_n at_o all_o adventure_n without_o faith_n or_o assurance_n of_o god_n acceptance_n which_o peter_n lombard_n like_v not_o of_o 45._o lib._n 4_o distinct_a 45._o or_o else_o this_o popish_a doctrine_n be_v but_o a_o dream_n of_o a_o dry_a summer_n three_o it_o will_v be_v know_v when_o these_o superfluous_a work_n be_v make_v acceptable_a to_o god_n be_v it_o as_o soon_o as_o the_o breath_n be_v out_o of_o the_o saint_n mouth_n or_o before_o or_o else_o a_o week_n or_o a_o month_n or_o a_o year_n after_o or_o when_o else_o if_o before_o or_o present_o after_o his_o death_n as_o they_o must_v either_o begin_v then_o or_o never_o then_o christ_n have_v do_v that_o which_o belong_v to_o he_o already_o so_o as_o we_o need_v not_o now_o conclude_v our_o prayer_n with_o per_fw-la christum_fw-la dominum_fw-la nostrum_fw-la last_o of_o all_o i_o will_v know_v whether_o any_o of_o these_o saint_n that_o have_v so_o many_o spare_a work_n do_v themselves_o in_o their_o time_n pray_v after_o bellarmine_n popish_a form_n do_v they_o pray_v that_o other_o saint_n that_o be_v dead_a before_o they_o will_v procure_v they_o this_o or_o that_o benefit_n which_o they_o have_v need_n of_o either_o they_o know_v their_o own_o store_n or_o they_o know_v it_o not_o if_o they_o know_v it_o they_o be_v much_o to_o blame_v to_o join_v prayer_n with_o the_o church_n after_o bellarmine_n pattern_n and_o so_o to_o lavish_a needless_o the_o treasure_n of_o the_o church_n whereas_o they_o may_v have_v pray_v as_o never_o any_o dare_v pray_v lord_n grant_v i_o this_o or_o that_o for_o my_o own_o merit_n sake_n if_o they_o know_v it_o not_o and_o so_o continue_v all_o their_o life_n time_n how_o come_v we_o to_o know_v it_o when_o they_o be_v dead_a iwis_o it_o be_v not_o the_o pope_n canonization_n that_o can_v stop_v this_o gap_n for_o it_o can_v be_v show_v that_o ever_o pope_n presume_v to_o canonize_v any_o one_o saint_n before_o the_o time_n of_o charles_n the_o great_a and_o if_o there_o have_v be_v any_o certain_a rule_n to_o dub_v saint_n by_o in_o austin_n time_n he_o will_v never_o have_v say_v multorum_fw-la corpora_fw-la honorantur_fw-la in_o terris_fw-la quorum_fw-la animae_fw-la torquentur_fw-la in_o gehenna_n many_o man_n body_n be_v honour_v in_o earth_n who_o soul_n be_v torture_v in_o hell_n wherefore_o it_o behoove_v our_o good_a catholic_n to_o look_v better_o about_o they_o before_o they_o put_v themselves_o and_o their_o prayer_n to_o so_o dangerous_a a_o venture_n now_o in_o conclusion_n let_v i_o entreat_v you_o to_o note_v further_o how_o these_o man_n open_v their_o own_o shame_n there_o where_o they_o will_v fain_o hide_v it_o for_o when_o bellarmine_n know_v that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n pray_v to_o the_o virgin_n marie_n and_o the_o apostle_n not_o as_o secondary_a mediator_n but_o principal_n thus_o he_o slubber_v up_o the_o matter_n as_o though_o it_o be_v but_o a_o trifle_n 17_o de_fw-fr sanct._n beat_v lib._n 1._o ca._n 17_o non_fw-la agimus_fw-la de_fw-fr verbis_fw-la say_v he_o sed_fw-la de_fw-la sensu_fw-la verborum_fw-la nam_fw-la quantum_fw-la adverba_fw-la licet_fw-la dicere_fw-la s._n petre_n miserere_fw-la meet_v salua_fw-la i_o aperi_fw-la mihi_fw-la aditum_fw-la coeli_fw-la etc._n etc._n dummodo_fw-la intelligamus_fw-la salua_fw-la i_o &_o miserere_fw-la mei_fw-la orando_fw-la pro_fw-la i_o da_fw-mi mihi_fw-la hoc_fw-la &_o illud_fw-la tuis_fw-la praecibus_fw-la &_o meritis_fw-la we_o deal_v not_o about_o the_o word_n but_o about_o the_o sense_n of_o the_o word_n if_o we_o respect_v the_o word_n it_o be_v lawful_a to_o say_v saint_z peter_n have_v mercy_n upon_o i_o save_v i_o open_v i_o the_o gate_n of_o heaven_n so_o that_o we_o understand_v save_v i_o and_o have_v mercy_n upon_o i_o by_o pray_v for_o i_o and_o give_v i_o this_o and_o that_o by_o the_o prayer_n and_o merit_n as_o if_o he_o shall_v say_v be_v sure_o you_o name_n peter_n or_o the_o virgin_n marie_n or_o the_o saint_n to_o who_o you_o pray_v else_o all_o be_v mar_v but_o god_n the_o father_n 5._o 1._o tim._n 2_o 5._o and_o christ_n his_o son_n the_o only_a mediator_n between_o god_n and_o man_n you_o may_v understand_v they_o as_o accidental_a implement_n that_o may_v adesse_fw-la &_o abesse_fw-la sine_fw-la interitu_fw-la subiecti_fw-la you_o need_v not_o care_v great_o for_o name_v they_o for_o the_o holy_a virgin_n god_n mother_n and_o peter_n and_o paul_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o god_n friend_n will_v excuse_v the_o matter_n thus_o these_o man_n can_v remember_v dead_a saint_n and_o let_v god_n and_o his_o christ_n go_v as_o though_o they_o count_v it_o but_o a_o small_a matter_n to_o forget_v god_n 9.10_o psa_fw-la 9.17_o rom._n 10_o 9.10_o and_o know_v not_o that_o we_o must_v confess_v the_o lord_n jesus_n with_o our_o mouth_n as_o well_o as_o believe_v in_o he_o in_o our_o heart_n howbeit_o they_o that_o forget_v the_o mediation_n of_o christ_n in_o their_o mass-book_n 8._o durand_n lib._n 4._o parte_fw-la 2._o vide_fw-la sect._n 8._o where_o they_o pray_v for_o the_o acceptation_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n and_o that_o god_n will_v look_v upon_o they_o propitio_fw-la ac_fw-la sereno_fw-la vultu_fw-la for_o they_o can_v pray_v pro_fw-la christo_fw-la and_o per_fw-la christum_fw-la both_o at_o once_o will_v hardly_o remember_v it_o when_o they_o be_v let_v loose_a to_o wander_v in_o the_o wilderness_n of_o bellarmine_n intelligamus_fw-la the_o dialogue_n sectio_fw-la xxv_o freewill_n concern_v frée-will_a we_o do_v say_v with_o saint_n james_n that_o every_o good_a and_o perfect_a gift_n come_v from_o above_o and_o with_o saint_n paul_n deus_fw-la operatur_fw-la in_o nobis_fw-la &_o velle_fw-la &_o perficere_fw-la and_o we_o must_v not_o

as_o they_o be_v warn_v of_o their_o error_n so_o be_v you_o as_o they_o without_o repentance_n lose_v the_o benefit_n of_o christ_n sacrifice_n so_o shall_v you_o if_o the_o father_n have_v be_v as_o often_o and_o plain_o admonish_v as_o you_o have_v be_v they_o will_v being_n holy_a and_o sincere_a man_n have_v reform_v their_o judgement_n and_o keep_v the_o head_n though_o they_o err_v in_o some_o part_n the_o lord_n will_v not_o impute_v that_o error_n unto_o they_o and_o again_o they_o err_v not_o so_o wilful_o as_o you_o and_o therefore_o we_o account_v not_o of_o they_o as_o of_o you_o who_o have_v multiply_v your_o error_n and_o leave_v almost_o no_o one_o ground_n of_o pure_a religion_n unshake_a this_o be_v a_o sufficient_a answer_n to_o such_o beggarly_a petitioner_n yet_o his_o mouth_n will_v not_o be_v stop_v till_o we_o show_v some_o of_o the_o popish_a revolt_n from_o god_n ancient_a truth_n to_o the_o several_a heresy_n whereof_o popery_n consist_v to_o this_o end_n therefore_o we_o may_v remember_v the_o double_a condemnation_n of_o eustathius_n in_o two_o several_a counsel_n 33._o socrat._n hyst_z lib._n 2_o cap._n 33._o casaria_n and_o gangra_n for_o such_o catholic_a article_n as_o run_v currant_n among_o papist_n at_o this_o day_n as_o for_o example_n forbid_v to_o marry_v abstinence_n from_o meat_n sunder_v man_n from_o their_o wife_n and_o servant_n from_o their_o master_n under_o colour_n of_o religion_n abhor_v the_o blessing_n and_o communion_n of_o a_o marry_a priest_n and_o such_o like_a article_n as_o be_v condemn_v most_o of_o they_o of_o all_o church_n under_o heaven_n 200._o year_n before_o eustathius_n be_v bear_v for_o thus_o write_v apollonius_n a_o martyr_n 16._o euseb_n hystor_n lib._n 5._o cap._n 16._o speak_v of_o the_o heretic_n montanus_n hic_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la coniugia_fw-la dissoluere_fw-la docuit_fw-la ieiuniorum_fw-la leges_fw-la praescripsit_fw-la qui_fw-la pepuzam_n ac_fw-la tinium_fw-la modicas_fw-la civitates_fw-la phrygiae_fw-la jerusalem_fw-la vocavit_fw-la ut_fw-la cunctos_fw-la undique_fw-la ad_fw-la illas_fw-la congregaret_fw-la qui_fw-la pecuniarum_fw-la exactores_fw-la constituit_fw-la qui_fw-la sub_fw-la pretextu_fw-la &_o nomine_fw-la oblationum_fw-la numerum_fw-la captationem_fw-la artificiosè_fw-la concutus_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la salaria_fw-la doctrinae_fw-la praedicatoribus_fw-la subministravit_fw-la ut_fw-la per_fw-la ventris_fw-la studium_fw-la doctrina_fw-la ipsius_fw-la invalesceret_fw-la this_o be_v he_o which_o dissolve_a marriage_n prescribe_a law_n of_o fast_v which_o call_v pepuza_n and_o tinium_fw-la two_o little_a city_n of_o phrygia_n jerusalem_n that_o he_o may_v gather_v man_n from_o every_o place_n thither_o which_o appoint_v exactor_n of_o money_n which_o under_o the_o pretence_n and_o name_n of_o offering_n do_v cunning_o devise_v to_o get_v gift_n who_o minister_v stipend_n to_o the_o preacher_n of_o his_o doctrine_n that_o so_o for_o his_o belly_n sake_n his_o doctrine_n may_v be_v every_o where_o declare_v the_o same_o father_n and_o martyr_n say_v that_o his_o prophet_n and_o martyr_n do_v extort_v money_n not_o only_o from_o the_o rich_a but_o also_o from_o the_o poor_a even_o widow_n and_o orphan_n martion_n and_o appelles_n forbid_v marriage_n as_o appear_v in_o tertullian_n the_o manichy_n be_v condemn_v first_o by_o pope_n leo_n and_o then_o by_o gelasius_n as_o the_o first_o father_n of_o communicate_v under_o one_o kind_n 70._o de_fw-fr prescrip_n ad_fw-la haeret_fw-la serm._n 4._o the_o quadrag_n in_o decret_a pontiff_n distinct_a in_o cap._n comperimus_fw-la in_o catalogue_n dogm_n manich._n lib._n de_fw-la anima_fw-la in_o fine_a dialog_n 2._o contra_fw-la eutyc_a can._n 36._o haeres_fw-la 70._o the_o same_o heretic_n be_v the_o father_n of_o monkish_a idleness_n and_o therefore_o epiphanius_n call_v they_o desidentes_fw-la vespae_fw-la &_o nihil_fw-la operantes_fw-la etc._n etc._n idle_n wasp_n and_o do_v no_o work_n the_o doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n be_v first_o recommend_v to_o tertullian_n by_o the_o paraclet_n of_o montanus_n the_o heretic_n in_o theodoret_n dialogue_n say_v as_o the_o papist_n do_v symbola_fw-la dominici_fw-la corporis_fw-la &_o saguinis_fw-la post_fw-la invocationem_fw-la sacerdotis_fw-la mutantur_fw-la &_o alia_fw-la fiunt_fw-la the_o symbol_n of_o the_o lord_n body_n and_o blood_n after_o the_o invocation_n of_o the_o priest_n be_v change_v and_o make_v other_o thing_n and_o pope_n gelasius_n tell_v the_o heretic_n eutiches_n non_fw-la desinit_fw-la esse_fw-la substantia_fw-la panis_fw-la &_o naturavini_fw-la there_o cease_v not_o to_o be_v the_o substance_n of_o bread_n and_o the_o nature_n of_o wine_n the_o counsel_n of_o eliberis_n enact_v that_o that_o which_o be_v worship_v shall_v not_o be_v paint_v upon_o wall_n thereby_o condemn_v popish_a imagery_n epiphanius_n faith_n of_o the_o audian_o 8._o audian_o they_o use_v great_a store_n of_o apocryphal_a writing_n epiphanius_n haeres_fw-la 46._o 47._o 61._o etc._n etc._n de_n preser_fw-ge advers._fw-la haeret_fw-la &_o libro_fw-la de_fw-la baptis_fw-la in_o fine_a euseb_n hystor_n lib._n 3._o cap._n ult._n &_o lib._n 2._o cap._n 15._o de_fw-fr prescript_n advers._fw-la haeret_fw-la irenaeus_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 23._o &_o 24_o &_o lib._n 3._o cap._n 2_o canus_n lib_n 3._o cap._n 3._o fund_z 4._o bellarm._n de_fw-fr verb._n non_fw-la script_n lib._n 4._o cap._n 8._o vtuntur_fw-la apochryphis_fw-la multis_fw-la abunde_fw-la the_o tatian_o the_o eucratife_n the_o apostolickes_n and_o such_o like_a heretic_n be_v the_o first_o founder_n of_o single_a life_n and_o be_v so_o high_o esteem_v it_o take_v hold_v in_o time_n upon_o the_o church_n woman_n baptism_n which_o be_v currant_n in_o popery_n come_v first_o from_o heretic_n wife_n of_o who_o tertullian_n say_v that_o they_o be_v procaces_fw-la audentes_fw-la docere_fw-la contendere_fw-la exercismos_fw-la agere_fw-la curationes_fw-la repromittere_fw-la forsitan_fw-la &_o tingere_fw-la malapert_a such_o as_o bold_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o teach_v to_o contend_v to_o exercise_v such_o as_o promise_v to_o cure_v disease_n and_o perhaps_o also_o to_o baptize_v papias_n a_o chiliast_n be_v the_o first_o father_n and_o founder_n of_o tradition_n and_o peter_n primacy_n or_o romish_a episcopalitie_n tertullian_n and_o irenaeus_n tell_v we_o that_o heretic_n hold_v the_o apostle_n do_v not_o reveal_v omnia_fw-la omnibus_fw-la sed_fw-la quaedam_fw-la palàm_fw-la &_o universis_fw-la quaedam_fw-la secretò_fw-la &_o paucis_fw-la all_o thing_n to_o all_o man_n but_o some_o thing_n open_o and_o to_o all_o some_o thing_n secret_o &_o to_o a_o few_o as_o namely_o basilides_n carpocrates_n valentinus_n martion_n carinthus_n and_o this_o be_v the_o opinion_n of_o papist_n at_o this_o day_n this_o be_v sufficient_a for_o a_o taste_n that_o thereby_o you_o may_v judge_v how_o toothsome_a popery_n be_v that_o consist_v of_o these_o and_o many_o other_o such_o root_n of_o bitterness_n and_o that_o you_o may_v be_v yet_o better_o infourm_v how_o the_o good_a corn_n of_o true_a religion_n may_v be_v overgrow_v with_o the_o weed_n of_o popish_a error_n and_o heresy_n and_o yet_o in_o time_n get_v the_o victory_n again_o and_o overmaister_n they_o 19_o cap._n 2_o 19_o the_o church_n of_o thyatira_n so_o high_o commend_v in_o the_o revelation_n may_v be_v a_o plain_a document_n unto_o we_o which_o though_o it_o seem_v to_o be_v evacuate_v by_o the_o cataphrygian_a heresy_n 51._o epipha_n haeres_fw-la 51._o yet_o a_o hundred_o year_n after_o the_o church_n reviue_v again_o and_o multiply_v and_o so_o by_o god_n mercy_n conquer_v the_o woman_n jezabel_n and_o her_o heretical_a prophet_n &_o even_o so_o it_o fare_v with_o the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o general_a for_o howsoever_o it_o please_v god_n for_o the_o punishment_n of_o our_o sin_n to_o give_v antichrist_n leave_v by_o little_a and_o little_a to_o grow_v to_o such_o a_o height_n that_o at_o length_n he_o over-shadowed_a and_o over-dropped_n all_o truth_n and_o sincerity_n yet_o when_o god_n see_v his_o time_n he_o begin_v to_o raise_v up_o such_o worthy_a man_n as_o lop_v off_o his_o branch_n 4._o daniel_n 4._o and_o shake_v off_o his_o leaf_n and_o scatter_v his_o fruit_n and_o so_o continue_v and_o will_v continue_v to_o execute_v his_o judgement_n upon_o that_o man_n of_o sin_n that_o in_o the_o end_n he_o will_v not_o leave_v so_o much_o as_o the_o stump_n of_o his_o root_n in_o the_o earth_n touch_v puritanie_n which_o still_o this_o fellow_n quarrel_v withal_o when_o he_o can_v prove_v it_o to_o be_v either_o a_o church_n or_o a_o religion_n by_o itself_o we_o will_v shape_v he_o a_o answer_n in_o the_o mean_a time_n let_v he_o know_v that_o no_o protestant_n in_o england_n or_o out_o of_o england_n hold_v any_o doctrine_n necessary_a to_o salvation_n but_o such_o as_o be_v warrant_v by_o scripture_n neither_o be_v we_o leave_v whole_o to_o ourselves_o in_o matter_n of_o discipline_n to_o appoint_v what_o we_o think_v good_a 14.26.40_o rom._n 14.23_o 1._o cor._n 14.26.40_o but_o be_v guide_v by_o the_o general_a rule_n of_o god_n word_n how_o to_o behave_v ourselves_o in_o the_o