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of_o christ_n and_o 1_o cor._n 11._o he_o add_v he_o that_o eat_v and_o drink_v unworthy_o eat_v and_o drink_v damnation_n to_o himself_o not_o discern_v the_o lord_n body_n thus_o both_o before_o our_o lord_n give_v it_o at_o the_o very_o give_v of_o it_o and_o his_o apostle_n and_o disciple_n after_o he_o have_v give_v it_o unto_o they_o and_o they_o to_o other_o all_o of_o they_o call_v it_o express_o our_o lord_n bâ—dy_o final_o against_o their_o true_a and_o real_a receive_n of_o christ_n by_o faith_n i_o say_v either_o the_o soul_n ascend_v to_o heaven_n there_o to_o feed_v on_o christ_n by_o faith_n which_o calvin_n confess_v or_o else_o christ_n descend_v to_o earth_n to_o feed_v the_o same_o not_o the_o first_o
for_o so_o the_o unglorified_a soul_n of_o man_n shall_v be_v in_o two_o place_n at_o once_o which_o yet_o they_o deny_v even_o to_o the_o glorify_a body_n of_o jesus_n christ_n not_o the_o second_o for_o so_o christ_n shall_v be_v in_o two_o place_n at_o once_o who_o yet_o they_o say_v the_o heaven_n must_v contain_v till_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n act._n 3._o ¶_o see_v the_o ancient_a father_n that_o affirm_v the_o same_o s._n ignat._n in_o â—p_n ad_fw-la smyr_n s._n justin_n apol._n 2._o ad_fw-la antoninum_fw-la s._n cyprian_n ser_n 4._o de_fw-la lapsis_fw-la s._n ambr._n l._n 4._o de_fw-fr sacram._n say_v it_o be_v bread_n before_o the_o word_n of_o the_o sacrament_n but_o after_o etc._n etc._n of_o bread_n it_o be_v make_v the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n s._n remigius_n say_v the_o flesh_n which_o the_o word_n of_o god_n take_v in_o the_o virgin_n womb_n and_o the_o bread_n consecrate_v in_o the_o church_n be_v one_o body_n xl._n that_o we_o ought_v to_o receive_v under_o both_o kind_n and_o that_o one_o alone_o suffice_v not_o contrary_n to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n john_n 6.51_o if_o any_o man_n eat_v of_o this_o bread_n he_o shall_v live_v for_o ever_o and_o the_o bread_n which_o i_o will_v give_v be_v my_o flesh_n here_o everlasting_a life_n be_v promise_v by_o our_o lord_n himself_o to_o he_o that_o eat_v of_o this_o bread_n only_o therefore_o one_o kind_n do_v suffice_v luke_n 24.30.8.35_o christ_n at_o emaus_n communicate_v to_o his_o disciple_n under_o one_o kind_n both_o s._n augustine_n and_o theophilact_fw-mi expound_v this_o place_n of_o the_o b._n sacrament_n in_o the_o same_o sense_n lib._n de_fw-fr consens_fw-la evang_v cap._n 35._o s._n chrysost_o hom_n 17._o operis_fw-la imperfecti_fw-la s._n thomas_n of_o aquin_n and_o many_o other_o but_o they_o will_v allege_v to_o the_o contrary_a that_o of_o s._n john_n unless_o you_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n and_o drink_v his_o blood_n you_o shall_v not_o 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