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A87434 Le dragon missionaire, or, The dragoon turn'd apostle being a dialaogue between a French Protestant-gentleman, and a French dragoon, wherein the new-way of convverting hereticks by dragoons is very lively and truly represented : to which is annexed a letter of Monsieur Jurieu to a French gentleman of quality, upon his dragonary conversion / translated out of the original French ; suppressed in the the late reign, but now re[pr?]inted ... Jurieu, Pierre, 1637-1713. 1686 (1686) Wing J1201; ESTC R43871 21,022 27

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according to her Principles I must not believe in God but only upon the Faith and Credit of the Romish Church that is she treats the true God as Pagan Rome was wont to deal with her false ones She makes him depend upon the good-liking of Man Yea what is more she lifts up her self above God for she will be believed upon her word but allows not that God should be believed upon his So that instead of those words which so emphatically preface many passages in the Prophets Thus saith the Lord we must put Thus saith the Church From whence it is apparent that the Church of Rome believes in its self for if the reason why we are to believe any thing be not because God hath said it but because the Church saith so it follows that the Church believes because she wills or commands her self to believe and consequently she must be the Foundation and Rule of her own Faith Another thing very wonderful in this Principle of hers is that when any of the Members of this Communion hath a desire to know what it is that the Church requires him to believe he must content himself and acquiesce in the testimony of one sole person viz. of the Pope a Bishop or his own Curate and when any one of these tell him that this is the Doctrin of the Church he must acquiesce in what he hath said for if he should not there is no way remaining for his satisfaction but one viz. That the Church must be perpetually assembled in an Oecumenical Council for to resolve him what he ought to believe and what not And thus these Gentlemen that won't allow me to believe all the Prophets and Apostles together nay nor God himself speaking to me in the Scriptures yet will have me believe a single Curate or a single Bishop And that this is their plain and full meaning is so apparent that if any particular person should pretend to make any difficulty so to do or to reject the slightest of those Decisions which his Pastor assures him to be the Determinations of the Church they would prosecute him even after his Death and condemn him to the very Torments of Hell And now pray tell me whether any thing can be imagined more Exorbitant than this Tyranny of the Church and Clergy of Rome or any Slavery to be compared with that of her Votaries The Canon beginning with these words Si Papa d. 40. c. 6. Carries this Tyranny and this Slavery to that pitch as to affirm That if the Pope should carry the Souls of men in great flocks to the Devil he must be let alone without presuming to controll or contradict him By vertue of this Authority it is that the Church of Rome doth set up and establish new Mediators which in a manner saith Bellarmin may be called our Redeemers she Ordains an infinite number of new Devotions invents new Mysteries as that of Transubstantiation a new Sacrifice of Propitiation that of the Mass creates a new Ministry that of the Pope and his Cardinals founds new Religions those of the several sorts of Monks makes new Laws those of Tradition institutes new Sacraments viz. Confirmation Auricular Confession Orders Marriage and Extream Vnction She dispenseth with the Laws of God with the Obedience of Children to Parents and of Subjects to their Princes She adds to the Commands af God those of the Church that is her own She takes from the Commands of God viz. the second she allows what God forbids suffering publick Stews and forbids what God permits in forbidding Marriage and Meats yea what is more she commands what God expresly forbids viz. the worshipping of Images and forbids what he expresly commands viz. the Communion under both kinds See here Sir enough to make up a Letter and enough also to convince you of your horrible fall in quitting our Religion and embracing that of Rome I won't make it my task to dispute with your Wit and Reason nor before Men I l'e only dispute with your Conscience and that before God I therefore adjure you by your Conscience and by God who sees all things who must judge you one day to answer me truly to some Questions I shall put to you Are you fully satisfied in the Abjuration you have made Are you throughly perswaded in your heart as your new Religion obligeth you to be that the Religion you have quitted is Heretical Schismatical and Damnable and that on the contrary that of Rome is the onely true and saving Religion Do you believe in good earnest that Jesus Christ hath indeed granted to the Pope all the Authority he boasts of and takes to himself For in case he attributes to himself that which in no wise belongs to him he can be no other than a false Pastor and an Vsurper Do you believe firmly that in the Mass there is made a Transubstantiation viz. a change of the substance of the Bread into that of the Body of Jesus Christ and of the substance of the Wine into that of his Blood and that he is present in Body and Soul in the outward species or appearance of Bread and Wine and that he is to be adored there tho' it be as impossible to be assured that he is there indeed as it is to know the bottom of the heart of the Priest that Officiates upon whose intention this whole Mystery depends and consequently the Faith of those who believe that a Wafer is the true God the Creator and Redeemer of the World Can you possibly be ignorant that the Pope is Antichrist and Rome Babylon and that the Spirit of both the one and the other is the Spirit of Lyes of Cruelty and Impurity That the God of the Church of Rome is the God of the Mass and that that God is no better than an Idol which she worships most religiously together with an infinite number of Idols more That the said Church acknowledges no other Authority besides her own that she exalts her word above that of God and that she exerciseth a tyrannical power over the Consciences of men In a word can you be ignorant that all what that Religion teaches different from ours which are the very things they have particularly oblig'd you to embrace as necessary to Salvation are so far from being contain'd in the Gospel that they are most clearly and strongly condemn'd and forbid there And can you imagine that there is any Salvation for you in the state you are in viz. that of Hypocrisie whilst you p●etend to believe what you do not believe and to worship from your heart and freely when you do not do it but against your will as knowing it to be Idolatry whilst you externally comply with all the Worship of the Church of Rome serving with her by the worship term'd Doulia which is the word in Gal. 4.8 those things which by nature are not Gods Have you so wholly forgot the Gospel that you do not remember that the portion
needs be instructed tho' I do not see my self to stand in need of it I find you knowing enough in these matters for me to confer with and the Complement you made me at your first entrance makes me suspect you may be some Monk or Jesuit in the Disguise of a Dragon and that to the end you might not fright us Protestants too much who cannot bear the sight of a Monk in his Cowle without believing him a Devil in Masquerade Those good Fathers you know are Omnis homo they become all to all and put themselves into what Figure or Disguise you please the better to act their part in returning to the Bosom of the Holy Mother Church and reuniting to her the Children she had lost Pray tell me frankly Sir Are not you a counterfeit Dragon but a true Jesuit D. Not in the least tho' to tell you the truth I have been worse than a Jesuit G. How so I pray D. I have been for some years a Proponent or Candidate for the Ministry but having found after a diligent Application of my self to the Study of Controversies that both the Proponentisme and Ministry of the Pretended Reformed Religion were but a meer Vanity and prepossession of Spirit and above all a thing very pernicious to the Church whose Peace they disturb with a thousand frivolous Disputes which destroy the very Essence of Religion viz. Piety and Charity In a word having found that Protestantisme had none of the best Principles I turn'd Catholick and became a Souldier supposing that in this station I should prove more useful to my King and Country than in acting a Preacher and bolstering up the people in an Error This makes me still retain a smatch of those things that formerly were my study and employ G. Since it is so we have no need of Monks nor Priests forasmuch as you cannot but know better than they what the things are which pinch Protestants most and is the very Remora of their Conversion D. It is true what you say Sir only I have forgot to dispute in Mood and Figure as a Sorbonist or Father Jesuit might do G. All the better for that these modal Argumentators and men of Syllogisms confound all with their Sophistry Ergoings and Distinctions And indeed for the most part they are no better than meer Pedants and insupportable to all ingenious men D. Be it so However since you put me upon it I will endeavour to prove that you ought to become a Catholick and that with this Syllogisme If your Ancestors did without just ground separate themselves from the Romish Church then it is your duty to return to her again But your Ancestors have without just grounds separated themselves Therefore c. G. I defie the whole Sorbonne and the Gentlemen of Port Royal to argue more exactly I perceive now it will go very hard with me and that I must prepare my self for a very rude Shock who have to deal with a Dragon and a Proponent converted both at once but Patience in answer to your Syllogisme I say that my Ancestors had great reason to separate themselves from Rome forasmuch as they saw they could not be saved in case they continued in her Communion D. We must never separate our selves from the true Church upon any pretext whatsoever for without the Church here is no Salvation And the Church of Rome is this true Church forasmuch as she alone hath been always visible and the most extended and comprehensive of all others Now it is apparent that the true Church must needs be the most visible and most extended of all others that are called Christian. G. I don't see but that the Greek Church is every whit as comprehensive as the Romish Church and hath in all times-been as visible as it But where have you learnt that the true Church must always be visible and most comprehensive D. Of St. Augustin where he Disputes against the Donatists G. Don't you know that St. Augustin was a man as you and I subject to Error and that he himself elsewhere exhorteth us to give heed to no other Authority besides that of the Divine Scriptures And you who are so ready to jump with him in this Point would you be as willing to believe with him That Infants dying without Baptism and without the Communion of the Body and Blood of Christ are damned as much as the Devils themselves and Reprobates D. No surely but however it must be granted that without the Church there is no Salvation and consequently the same must needs be always visible that men in all times may enter into Communion with it and so be saved G. The Scripture no where saith so It is without Jesus Christ that there is no Salvation And as for the Church true it is That we are to enter into Communion with it but that is when we can see and find it and all those whom the true Church doth cast out of her Communion upon just grounds are in a state of damnation D. What Sir Will you suppose then that the Church of God can perish and cease upon Earth G. By no means for Jesus Christ will always have his faithful Ones to the end of the World yet that hinders not but they may be oft hid from the Eyes of men and unknown to them D. How is it possible then that men in all times should be saved G. By means of the Gospel which the Divine Providence will take care shall be preserved upon Earth till the end of the World and by the owning of those Christian Truths in which all Christians do agree D. You are very subtile but in the mean time you cannot deny but that your Church and Religion are but of Yesterday since they were never heard of in the World before Luther and Calvin G. Pray be pleased to look upon this Book open it and read it D. Why This is the New Testament G. And there Sir you have the Authors of my Church and of my Religion I hold it from Jesus Christ and his Apostles and from their first Successors D. That cannot be Sir for your Ministers came not that way they are without Succession or any lawful Call and they have either made themselves Pastors or have been Ordained by the People G. Not so for the grearest part of them came from the Church of Rome and so preserv'd the Call they received there and the rest were confirmed and approved by them In a word we find that Jesus Christ hath committed to Believers the Authority of the Ministerial Function But you Mr. Dragon who are so sharp upon others from whence pray do you come And from whence do you derive your Mission D. From Father la Chaise and from Monsieur Maimbourg formerly a Jesuit and from the whole Body of the Clergy G. But Sir the persons you name are no Dragons and a Dragon must descend in a right Line from another Dragon as amongst you a Priest derives his Authority