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A19748 A confession of Christian religion; Protestation against popery by way of a confession of Christian religion collected for the benefit of private friends I. D., fl. 1607.; Dunster, John, attributed name. 1609 (1609) STC 6172A; ESTC S114690 21,349 54

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Euince against the Pelagians that children were tainted with originall sinne and therefore Extra feruorem disputationis cum Pelagianis hee did somwhat remit of that seuerity and we shal find in his booke de Bapt. contra Donatistas lib. 4. Cap. 22. that he is charitable to those that go out of this world vnwashed in Baptisme Si fortè ad celebrandum mysterium Baptismi in angustijs temporū succurri nō potest They are his own words and I am not the only man of all the world that thus vnderstood S. Augustine for S. Bernard in his 77. Epist whose iudgmēt of the same point what it was you haue before addeth Ab his ergo duabus columnis S. August is one S. Ambros the other crede mihi difficilè avellor cum his inquam me aut errare aut sapere fateor I confesse originall sinne to be weakned and bridled by Baptisme yea takē awaie quoad reatū imputationem but not quoad actum totali abolitione as the Papists would haue it for it stil remaineth in vs as long as wee walke sub onere carnis and is indeed a sinne howsoeuer in Christ not imputed vnto the person in whō it is or if you wil so haue it I will giue you my iudgemēt of Concupiscence remaining after Baptisme in Saint Augustines words Remittitur in Baptismate non finitur And againe Sed sufficit inquis quod in Baptismate accepi remissionem omnium peccatorum Nunquid quia deleta est iniquitas finita est infirmitas Adhuc carnem fragilem portas adhuc corpus quod corrumpitur aggrauat animam adhuc vtique dicis donec sanentur languores mei Dimitte nobis debita nostra Baptisme is onlie to be dispensed by a minister not by a laie man much lesse by a woman yet I am perswaded that if a lay man or woman haue de facto baptised obseruing the forme of words the Baptisme is not to be repeated Nescio an quis piè dixerit esse repetendum Aug S. Augustine was not himselfe vncertaine what to thinke but doubtfull whether any well minded man in the whole world could thinke otherwise and I rest in the iudgement of a learned father amongst vs whose words they are piè fit si minister tingat solus at fit etiam si tingat alius and againe malè factum est si laicus D. Abbots loc de Bapt. peius si faemina rem sacrosanctam hanc attigerit sed factum est quod factum est infectum esse non potest We should indeed keep our selues within the limits of our vocations each sexe apart therefore when women Baptize which I take to bee not a permission by lawe but a presumption against law they are to be censured as vsurpers of an others calling who by vnsanctified hands execute that wherevnto the lawes of God and his Church haue deputed others But yet farre be it from me herevpon it being but a personall default to disanull and annihilate the Action and to make Baptisme no Baptisme to the preiudice of the Receiuer for delictum cum capite semper ambulat factum alterius alteri nocere nō debet 2 The other Sacrament is the Eucharist in which the true body and bloude of Christ is given vs vnder the visible forme of bread wine to bee receiued by the mouth of faith of everie beleeuer And I am perswaded that as truely as the bread and wine is receiued by my hand and conveied into my stomacke so assuredly the body and bloode of Christ Iesus is receiued by the hand of faith and conveied vnto my soule and conscience this certainety is assured vnto me by those Emphaticall formes of speeches peculiar in the sacraments by which the bread is tearmed the true body and wine the blood of Christ so then the body of Christ is present in the sacrament verè non imaginariè how be it non corporali praesentiâ sed spirituali according to that of S. Augustine Quid paras ventrem dentes crede manducasti Away then with the wheaten Idoll the Masse and Popish Transubstantiation for that there can be no such 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 or Transubstantiation I protest vpon these reasons 1 It crosseth the institution of Christ he bideth vs to receaue his supper In mei recordationē now we know that Recordatio is Rei absentis non praesentis 2 Christians would then be Anthropophagi and the Lords table should bee like the house of Polyphemus in the Poet Et trepidi tremerent subdentibus artus 3 This implies a blasphemy for then Christ being chewed and eaten in ventrem cederet and therefore according to the doctrine of the Gospell in latrinam abijceretur 4 Then the wicked should eate his flesh and so haue eternall life 5 We see the Accidents of bread wine to remaine and therfore the propper substances of bread wine must remaine except we woulde haue an Accident to subsist without his proper substance which is absurd in reason And I do accoūt that glosse which the master of the sentences doth set vpon this matter verie rediculous to wit that therefore the breade and wine being indeed vanished away their accidēts must remaine to cover the flesh and bloude of Christ 1 Vt fides scilicet haberet meritum Auerr●es in 12. metaph Quoniam christiani manducant Deum quem adorant fi● anima mea cum philosophis quia fides nō habet meritū vbi humana ratio praebet experimētū 2 Ne abborreat animus si carnem ipsam oculi vsurparent 3 Ne ab incredulis Religioni Christianae insultetur as if they did eate mans flesh I protest likewise against the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and consubstantiation of the Lutherans who doe faine a Coexistence of the body of Christ in sub or cum pane and I could wish that they would vse more moderation against their Opposits I conclude my iudgement of both sacramēts with this doctrine that neither sacrament hath vim causatiuam gratiae as the Papists speake that I may explicate my selfe to the capacity of the simple that there is not in the corporal elemēts of the Sacraments any supernaturall Grace inherent and essentiall but that the Sacraments are instruments meanes by the which the holy Ghost is effectually powerfull to offer exhibit apply the merit of Christs passion to every beleeuer That which pessimè pertinacissimè Eutyches as I read of him I hope I may truely and from a sober and Christian resolution averre In hac fide genitus sum vsque hodie vixi in ea opto mori Etiam sic sentio sic credo I. D. His qui contradicit aut omnino à Christi nomine alienus est aut est Haereticus FINIS