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who_o deny_v substantial_a presence_n for_o if_o christ_n be_v present_a to_o we_o in_o the_o eucharist_n in_o the_o benefit_n of_o his_o passion_n in_o his_o grace_n in_o his_o spirit_n he_o be_v present_a to_o we_o in_o something_o real_a though_o not_o in_o the_o reality_n of_o his_o person_n but_o they_o go_v beyond_o all_o these_o even_o the_o last_o of_o they_o also_o the_o presence_n by_o his_o spirit_n see_v before_o p._n 2._o neque_fw-la enim_fw-la mortis_fw-la tantum_fw-la &c_n &c_n neque_fw-la enim_fw-la mihi_fw-la satisfaciunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n affirm_v a_o real_a and_o substantial_a presence_n for_o indeed_o what_o can_v real_a presence_n of_o a_o substance_n such_o as_o body_n and_o blood_n be_v be_v but_o substantial_a presence_n even_o of_o that_o body_n which_o suffer_v upon_o the_o cross_n for_o we_o which_o presence_n they_o clear_o contradistinguish_v to_o presence_n by_o effect_n influence_n virtue_n grace_n or_o a_o unite_n of_o our_o body_n with_o christ_n 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to_o satisfy_v the_o scripture_n and_o tradition_n therefore_o they_o speak_v of_o eucharistical-presence_n as_o a_o great_a mystery_n eph._n 5._o wrought_v by_o god_n omnipotence_n after_o a_o manner_n ineffable_a or_o incomprehensible_a to_o man_n reason_n last_o as_o far_o in_o substantial_a
necessaria_fw-la &_o quae_fw-la a_o calvino_n &_o illius_fw-la â—â—quacibuâ—_n dicuntur_fw-la manifestam_fw-la in_o se_fw-la continere_fw-la tum_fw-la vanitatem_fw-la tum_fw-la absurditatem_fw-la &_o ex_fw-la isto_fw-la fonte_fw-la emanasse_n ingentem_fw-la illam_fw-la idololatriam_fw-la etc._n etc._n etc._n the_o same_n say_v the_o socinian_o see_v volkelius_n and_o i_o think_v riveâ—_n in_o his_o controversy_n with_o grotius_n be_v of_o the_o same_o opinion_n with_o the_o remonstrant_n at_o least_o much_o differ_v from_o dr._n tailor_n for_o that_o say_n of_o the_o conc._n trid._n sacramentaliter_fw-la praesens_fw-la salvator_n noster_fw-la substantia_fw-la sva_fw-la nobis_fw-la adest_fw-la allow_v in_o some_o sense_n by_o the_o doctor_n he_o maintain_v to_o contradict_v quia_fw-la quod_fw-la sacramentaliter_fw-la praesens_fw-la est_fw-la say_v he_o non_fw-la est_fw-la substantia_fw-la sva_fw-la praesens_fw-la nec_fw-la contra_fw-la animad_fw-la p._n 85._o and_o again_o examen_fw-la p._n 45._o si_fw-mi corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la in_o sacramento_n quantitative_a i._n e._n corporal_o or_o secundum_fw-la modum_fw-la corporis_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la omnino_fw-la quia_fw-la corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la ubicunque_fw-la est_fw-la quantum_fw-la est_fw-la aut_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la indeed_o i_o have_v often_o wonder_v see_v that_o something_o more_o than_o they_o willing_o grant_v seem_v necessary_o to_o follow_v upon_o it_o why_o so_o many_o of_o the_o reform_a writer_n remain_v not_o content_a with_o a_o virtual_a presence_n which_o be_v maintain_v by_o they_o to_o be_v sufficient_a for_o salvation_n but_o concur_v so_o much_o in_o assert_v a_o real_a and_o substantial_a i_o guess_v not_o only_o the_o punctual_a and_o fix_a expression_n of_o the_o scripture_n as_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n in_o so_o many_o relation_n thereof_o not_o only_o in_o the_o gospel_n but_o in_o st._n paul_n epistle_n to_o the_o corinthian_n be_v so_o unvariable_o observe_v beside_o the_o expression_n 1_o cor._n 11.27_o 29._o and_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o father_n who_o so_o often_o call_v it_o tremendum_fw-la mysterium_fw-la and_o the_o stream_n of_o tradition_n to_o have_v as_o it_o be_v necessitate_v they_o to_o it_o but_o also_o the_o authority_n of_o calvin_n not_o a_o little_a to_o have_v move_v they_o who_o be_v a_o great_a leader_n to_o our_o reform_a forefather_n again_o he_o i_o suppose_v to_o be_v induce_v to_o it_o as_o from_o the_o former_a reason_n so_o from_o a_o desire_n to_o reconcile_v several_a party_n of_o the_o then_o early_o begin_v reformation_n and_o to_o moderate_v and_o temper_v the_o former_a lutheran_n and_o zuinglian_n quarrel_n of_o who_o therefore_o bishop_n forbes_n observe_v quod_fw-la sva_fw-la doctrina_fw-la super_fw-la hac_fw-la re_fw-la as_o it_o seem_v here_o also_o of_o the_o doctrine_n of_o other_o of_o this_o second_o opinion_n erat_fw-la maxim_n incerta_fw-la &_o dubia_fw-la atque_fw-la lubrica_fw-la et_fw-la dum_fw-la nunc_fw-la his_fw-la nunc_fw-la illis_fw-la gratificari_fw-la studuit_fw-la haud_fw-la pauca_fw-la male_a sibi_fw-la cohaerentia_fw-la scripsit_fw-la de_fw-fr euchar._n 1._o l._n 1._o c._n 6._o sect_n sect_n xvi_o now_o to_o come_v to_o the_o second_o thing_n it_o be_v affirm_v or_o deny_v the_o real_a or_o substantial_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n with_o the_o sign_n and_o that_o ante_fw-la usum_fw-la and_o this_o i_o think_v to_o be_v general_o deny_v by_o the_o 2d_o opinion_n though_o i_o see_v not_o with_o what_o reason_n they_o can_v deny_v a_o possibility_n thereof_o since_o they_o grant_v such_o a_o presence_n with_o the_o worthy_a receiver_n see_v mr._n hooker_n 5._o l._n 67._o s._n p._n 359_o the_o real_a presence_n of_o christ_n most_o bless_v body_n and_o blood_n be_v not_o to_o be_v seek_v for_o in_o the_o sacrament_n but_o in_o the_o worthy_a receiver_n of_o the_o sacrament_n the_o bread_n and_o the_o cup_n be_v his_o body_n and_o blood_n because_o they_o be_v cause_n instrumental_a upon_o the_o receipt_n whereof_o the_o participation_n of_o his_o body_n and_o blood_n ensue_v for_o that_o which_o produce_v any_o certain_a effect_n be_v not_o vain_o or_o improper_o say_v to_o be_v that_o very_a effect_n whereunto_o it_o tend_v this_o he_o speak_v in_o behalf_n of_o the_o scripture-expression_n say_v of_o the_o element_n this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o my_o blood_n because_o we_o receive_v by_o these_o instrument_n that_o which_o they_o be_v term_v see_v dr._n tailor_n p._n 14._o by_o spiritual_a we_o mean_v present_a to_o our_o spirit_n only_o that_o be_v say_v he_o so_o as_o christ_n be_v not_o present_a to_o any_o other_o sense_n but_o that_o of_o faith_n or_o spiritual_a susception_n where_o to_o digress_v a_o little_a i_o wonder_v why_o he_o and_o some_o other_o so_o dr._n hammond_n say_v for_o our_o soul_n to_o be_v strengthen_v &c_n &c_n quote_v before_o do_v not_o say_v that_o christ_n body_n be_v substantial_o present_a to_o the_o body_n of_o worthy_a receiver_n as_o well_o as_o to_o the_o soul_n yet_o perhaps_o they_o deny_v it_o not_o for_o though_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v only_o spiritual_o there_o yet_o may_v a_o spirit_n be_v present_a to_o a_o body_n for_o our_o soul_n spirit_n be_v so_o and_o we_o say_v in_o the_o liturgy_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n preserve_v thy_o body_n and_o soul_n to_o everlasting_a life_n and_o grant_v we_o gracious_a lord_n so_o to_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o thy_o dear_a son_n jesus_n christ_n and_o to_o drink_v his_o blood_n that_o our_o sinful_a body_n may_v be_v make_v clean_o by_o his_o body_n and_o our_o soul_n wash_v through_o his_o most_o precious_a blood_n etc._n etc._n and_o the_o father_n therefore_o call_v the_o consecrate_a element_n from_o their_o vivifical_a influence_n on_o the_o body_n according_a to_o jo._n 6._o symbola_fw-la resurrectionis_fw-la see_v grot._n annot._n ad_fw-la cassand_n p._n 21._o sic_fw-la &_o corpora_fw-la nostra_fw-la percipientia_fw-la eucharistiam_fw-la jam_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la corruptibilia_fw-la sed_fw-la spem_fw-la resurrectionis_fw-la habentia_fw-la irenaeus_n neither_o see_v i_o any_o reason_n for_o rivet_n expression_n corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la affiâ—it_fw-la corpus_fw-la per_fw-la animam_fw-la nor_o for_o that_o of_o dr._n tailor_n p._n 131._o if_o he_o mean_v that_o the_o soul_n receive_v christ_n body_n more_o immediate_o than_o the_o body_n do_v for_o though_o without_o faith_n which_o be_v a_o act_n of_o the_o soul_n christ_n body_n be_v not_o receive_v at_o least_o receive_v profit_v not_o yet_o where_o faith_n be_v christ_n body_n be_v receive_v as_o well_o and_o as_o immediate_o by_o our_o body_n as_o by_o our_o soul_n and_o nourish_v and_o vivifi_v equal_o but_o spiritual_o both_o see_v what_o bishop_n forbes_n say_v euchar._n 1._o l._n 1._o c._n 27._o s._n verum_fw-la christi_fw-la corpus_fw-la non_fw-la tantum_fw-la animae_fw-la sed_fw-la etiam_fw-la corpori_fw-la nostrâ—_fw-la spiritualiter_fw-la tamen_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la corporaliter_fw-la exhibetur_fw-la &_o sane_fw-la alâ—o_fw-la ac_fw-la diverso_fw-la nobis_fw-la &_o propinquiori_fw-la modo_fw-la licet_fw-la occulto_fw-la quam_fw-la per_fw-la solam_fw-la fidem_fw-la fides_n qua_fw-la proprie_fw-la christi_fw-la caro_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n spiritualiter_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la incorporaliter_fw-la manducatur_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la ea_fw-la sola_fw-la qua_fw-la christus_fw-la creditur_fw-la mortuus_fw-la pro_fw-la peccatis_fw-la nostris_fw-la &c_n &c_n ea_fw-la enim_fw-la fides_fw-la praesupponitur_fw-la etc._n etc._n sed_fw-la ea_fw-la fides_fw-la est_fw-la qua_fw-la creditur_fw-la verbo_fw-la christi_fw-la dicentis_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la credere_fw-la enim_fw-la christum_fw-la ibi_fw-la esse_fw-la praesentem_fw-la etiam_fw-la carne_fw-la vivificatrice_n &_o desiderare_fw-la eam_fw-la sumere_fw-la nimirum_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la spiritualiter_fw-la &_o recte_fw-la eam_fw-la manducare_fw-la in_o eucharistia_n sect._n 25._o proinde_fw-la male_a docetur_fw-la a_o multis_fw-la protestantibus_fw-la hanc_fw-la praesentiam_fw-la &_o communicationem_fw-la per_fw-la fidem_fw-la effici_fw-la fides_n magis_fw-la proprie_fw-la dicitur_fw-la accipere_fw-la &_o apprehendere_fw-la quam_fw-la praestare_fw-la verbum_fw-la dei_fw-la &_o promissio_fw-la cvi_fw-la fides_fw-la nostra_fw-la nititur_fw-la praesentia_fw-la reddit_fw-la quae_fw-la promittit_fw-la non_fw-la nostra_fw-la fides_fw-la it_o be_v not_o faith_n that_o confer_v christ_n body_n though_o by_o the_o faithful_a it_o be_v only_o worthy_o or_o as_o they_o say_v only_o receive_v but_o receive_v equal_o and_o immediate_o both_o by_o the_o soul_n and_o body_n whether_o this_o body_n of_o christ_n be_v disjoin_v from_o as_o they_o think_v or_o conjoin_v with_o the_o element_n yet_o whilst_o this_o second_o opinion_n seem_v to_o hold_v no_o presence_n at_o all_o to_z or_o with_o the_o sign_n but_o to_o the_o receiver_n they_o only_o make_v the_o sign_n to_o be_v as_o well_o as_o i_o can_v understand_v they_o after_o consecration_n sanctify_a instrument_n upon_o receipt_n of_o which_o by_o those_o who_o believe_v god_n give_v the_o other_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o his_o son_n as_o also_o in_o baptism_n upon_o receive_v the_o water_n god_n give_v the_o spirit_n yet_o i_o say_v some_o other_o expression_n of_o
they_o seem_v not_o so_o suitable_a to_o such_o a_o meaning_n and_o may_v easy_o cause_v a_o mistake_n in_o the_o unwary_a reader_n and_o why_o they_o use_v they_o i_o can_v tell_v unless_o it_o be_v to_o imitate_v the_o phrase_n of_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n and_o also_o of_o the_o father_n see_v dr._n tailor_n p._n 7._o after_o the_o minister_n have_v consecrate_v the_o bread_n and_o the_o wine_n the_o symbol_n become_v change_v into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o a_o spiritual_a real_a manner_n may_v we_o then_o say_v that_o the_o baptismal_a water_n after_o prayer_n &c_n &c_n be_v change_v into_o the_o spirit_n in_o a_o spiritual_a real_a manner_n because_o that_o be_v a_o instrument_n upon_o use_v of_o which_o the_o holy_a spirit_n be_v confer_v so_o p._n 21._o the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o the_o symbol_n be_v change_v into_o christ_n body_n and_o blood_n or_o no_o for_o it_o be_v grant_v but_o whether_o this_o conversion_n be_v sacramental_a and_o figurative_a or_o natural_a and_o bodily_a etc._n etc._n so_o p._n 265.266_o before_o consecration_n it_o be_v mere_a bread_n but_o after_o consecration_n it_o be_v very_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n true_o his_o flesh_n and_o true_o his_o blood_n yet_o if_o we_o inquire_v how_o he_o mean_v that_o the_o bread_n be_v so_o sure_o he_o mean_v only_o this_o that_o upon_o receive_v or_o at_o the_o same_o time_n that_o we_o receive_v the_o bread_n suffer_v only_o a_o accidental_a mutation_n as_o he_o call_v it_o of_o condition_n of_o sanctification_n and_o usage_n at_o the_o same_o time_n christ_n real_a body_n be_v receive_v but_o not_o in_o or_o join_v with_o the_o bread_n at_o all_o by_o the_o faithful_a the_o expression_n be_v strange_o differ_v methinks_v from_o the_o meaning_n thereof_o but_o especial_o see_v such_o full_a expression_n in_o his_o great_a exemplar_n 3d._a part_n disc_n 18._o p._n 109._o in_o the_o former_a edition_n sect_n 3._o where_o among_o other_o thing_n he_o say_v it_o be_v hard_o to_o do_v so_o much_o violence_n to_o our_o sense_n as_o not_o to_o think_v it_o bread_n but_o it_o be_v more_o unsafe_a to_o do_v so_o much_o violence_n to_o our_o faith_n as_o not_o to_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v christ_n body_n again_o he_o that_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v bread_n and_o yet_o very_o to_o be_v christ_n body_n be_v only_o tie_v also_o by_o implication_n to_o believe_v god_n omnipotence_n that_o he_o who_o affirm_v it_o can_v also_o verify_v it_o and_o if_o we_o profess_v we_o understand_v not_o the_o manner_n of_o this_o mystery_n we_o say_v no_o more_o but_o that_o it_o be_v a_o mystery_n etc._n etc._n see_v the_o place_n strange_a expression_n when_o the_o thing_n require_v to_o be_v believe_v be_v this_o that_o christ_n body_n be_v no_o way_n present_v to_o the_o bread_n neither_o by_o the_o bread_n be_v any_o way_n change_v into_o it_o nor_o join_v with_o it_o but_o only_o it_o give_v and_o present_a to_o the_o faithful_a upon_o the_o receipt_n of_o this_o sanctify_a bread_n now_o will_v any_o discourse_n of_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n by_o which_o the_o spirit_n be_v receive_v on_o this_o manner_n it_o be_v hard_o to_o do_v so_o much_o violence_n to_o the_o sense_n as_o not_o to_o think_v it_o water_n but_o it_o be_v more_o unsafe_a to_o do_v so_o much_o violence_n to_o our_o faith_n as_o not_o to_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v the_o spirit_n etc._n etc._n will_v not_o he_o rather_o explain_v himself_o that_o the_o one_o be_v not_o the_o other_o but_o the_o one_o receive_v by_o god_n free_a gift_n upon_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o other_o other_o xvii_o after_o the_o real_a or_o substantial_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n thus_o grant_v if_o i_o well_o understand_v they_o by_o the_o second_o opinion_n to_o the_o worthy_a receiver_n but_o deny_v to_o the_o symbol_n or_o sign_n consecration_n whether_o antiquity_n affirm_v corporeal_a presence_n and_o whether_o this_o to_o the_o worthy_a receiver_n only_o or_o also_o to_o the_o symbol_n upon_o consecration_n let_v our_o next_o quaere_fw-la be_v what_o may_v be_v the_o opinion_n of_o antiquity_n which_o be_v of_o great_a moment_n with_o all_o obedient_a son_n of_o the_o church_n in_o this_o matter_n where_o suppose_v it_o grant_v by_o all_o that_o the_o father_n also_o hold_v the_o real_a presence_n as_o much_o as_o those_o of_o the_o second_o opinion_n do_v it_o remain_v only_o to_o be_v examine_v whether_o they_o hold_v this_o real_a presence_n not_o only_o to_o the_o worthy_a receiver_n but_o also_o to_o the_o symbol_n and_o that_o ante_fw-la usum_fw-la which_o if_o they_o do_v if_o their_o judgement_n be_v not_o to_o be_v submit_v to_o at_o least_o their_o follower_n be_v to_o be_v excuse_v excuse_v xviii_o 1._o and_o note_v here_o first_o before_o i_o proceed_v further_o symbol_n that_o the_o argument_n usual_o urge_v out_o of_o the_o father_n for_o their_o not_o hold_v transubstantiation_n disprove_v not_o theâ—â—_n hoâ—ding_v of_o a_o corporal_a 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