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though_o he_o censure_v it_o more_o hardly_o then_o m._n downam_n do_v by_o which_o we_o imagine_v that_o it_o will_v be_v a_o easy_a matter_n to_o answer_v to_o these_o two_o objection_n which_o m._n downam_n make_v in_o this_o place_n and_o indeed_o they_o be_v plain_a foolery_n and_o therefore_o no_o marvel_n though_o caluin_n have_v wit_n enough_o to_o omit_v they_o for_o what_o can_v be_v more_o foolish_a then_o to_o deny_v the_o authority_n of_o scripture_n only_o principij_fw-la downans_fw-la petitio_fw-la principij_fw-la because_o it_o favour_v his_o adversary_n in_o some_o question_n in_o controversy_n do_v ever_o any_o heretic_n deny_v any_o part_n of_o scripture_n with_o less_o reason_n than_o this_o and_o for_o the_o present_a question_n i_o hope_v the_o reader_n will_v remain_v satisfy_v with_o that_o which_o shall_v be_v say_v in_o this_o chapter_n and_o for_o the_o other_o of_o samuel_n cap._n 46._o 13._o i_o remit_v he_o to_o that_o which_o bellarmine_n write_v lib._n 2._o de_fw-la purgatorio_fw-la cap._n 6._o only_o i_o will_v oppose_v to_o m._n downam_n the_o authority_n of_o s._n augustine_n who_o as_o bellarmine_n well_o note_v have_v be_v doubtful_a lib._n 2._o ad_fw-la simplicianun_n q._n 3._o whether_o samuel_n himself_o appear_v to_o saul_n or_o no_o affirm_v without_o doubt_n that_o it_o be_v samuel_n lib._n de_fw-fr cura_fw-la pro_fw-la mortuis_fw-la cap._n 15._o cite_v the_o place_n of_o ecclesiasticus_fw-la which_o before_o he_o have_v omit_v m._n downams_n second_o answer_n be_v that_o in_o neither_o place_n it_o be_v say_v that_o either_o of_o they_o shall_v come_v to_o oppose_v himself_o against_o antichrist_n but_o what_o then_o at_o least_o wise_a it_o be_v say_v that_o they_o shall_v come_v to_o appease_v god_n wrath_n and_o to_o reconcile_v the_o hart_n of_o the_o father_n to_o the_o son_n and_o to_o restore_v the_o tribe_n of_o israel_n and_o of_o henoch_n to_o give_v penance_n to_o nation_n all_o which_o we_o learn_v out_o of_o 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yet_o express_v it_o in_o the_o conclusion_n which_o be_v a_o mere_a cavil_n for_o bellarmine_n will_v not_o add_v any_o word_n in_o the_o premise_n which_o he_o find_v not_o in_o melancthon_n caluin_n and_o illyricus_n who_o opinion_n he_o allege_v in_o the_o conclusion_n which_o be_v his_o own_o he_o may_v very_o well_o express_v that_o which_o be_v necessary_o to_o be_v understand_v as_o bellarmin_n explicate_v out_o of_o caluin_n himself_o for_o m._n downams_n devise_n that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n christ_n the_o church_n comprehend_v not_o all_o that_o profess_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n may_v be_v take_v for_o the_o company_n of_o christian_n that_o be_v of_o those_o that_o profess_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n be_v too_o ridiculous_a since_o by_o this_o mean_v he_o include_v all_o heretic_n whatsoever_o who_o be_v indeed_o the_o synagogue_n of_o the_o devil_n &_o so_o confound_v the_o church_n of_o god_n and_o the_o synagogue_n of_o the_o devil_n &_o whereas_o s._n paul_n 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