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sec_fw-la 16._o 19_o and_o 10._o that_o it_o be_v not_o simplâ—_n divine_a not_o absolute_o divine_a or_o that_o she_o be_v not_o 11._o not_o potter_n sec_fw-la 5._o p._n â—5_n i_o whitaker_n contr._n 1._o q._n 3._o c._n 11._o absolute_o infallible_a and_o confess_v that_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n be_v in_o some_o sort_n divine_a and_o call_v it_o a_o slander_n that_o they_o say_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n be_v mere_a humane_a but_o in_o truth_n they_o make_v her_o authority_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n mere_a humane_a yea_o less_o and_o none_o at_o al._n for_o thus_o whitaker_n contr._n 1._o q._n 5._o c._n 10._o in_o the_o church_n thou_o shall_v find_v nothing_o but_o humane_a and_o therefore_o uncertain_a l._n 3._o the_o script_n p._n 395._o the_o perpetual_a testimony_n of_o the_o church_n as_o far_o as_o it_o be_v of_o the_o church_n be_v but_o humane_a testimony_n p._n
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