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judge_n in_o doubt_n and_o controversy_n of_o religion_n to_o who_o determination_n any_o man_n be_v bind_v to_o yield_v his_o assent_n and_o obedience_n against_o the_o dictate_v of_o his_o own_o conscience_n guide_v according_a to_o the_o best_a of_o his_o light_n and_o knowledge_n by_o the_o rule_n of_o god_n word_n reply_v to_o the_o answer_n to_o this_o query_n a_o clear_a and_o positive_a answer_n to_o this_o query_n will_v go_v far_o towards_o the_o end_n our_o great_a difference_n and_o dispute_n in_o religion_n for_o either_o there_o be_v or_o there_o be_v not_o such_o a_o judge_n as_o be_v here_o inquire_v after_o if_o such_o a_o one_o there_o be_v let_v he_o be_v produce_v and_o his_o determination_n in_o all_o controversial_a point_n be_v make_v know_v that_o they_o may_v be_v submit_v to_o or_o if_o there_o be_v no_o such_o judge_n why_o be_v any_o molest_v and_o trouble_v for_o go_v according_a to_o their_o own_o judgement_n and_o conscience_n when_o it_o be_v their_o duty_n so_o to_o do_v what_o be_v say_v of_o a_o church_n be_v a_o society_n and_o that_o every_o society_n may_v agree_v upon_o the_o mean_n by_o which_o all_o difference_n arise_v in_o it_o may_v be_v determine_v that_o may_v probable_o violatate_v the_o peace_n and_o unity_n thereof_o be_v not_o to_o the_o present_a question_n which_o be_v only_o concern_v such_o a_o judge_n in_o doubt_n and_o controversy_n of_o religion_n to_o who_o determination_n every_o one_o be_v bind_v to_o yield_v his_o assent_n and_o obedience_n against_o his_o own_o judgement_n we_o have_v already_o acknowledge_v that_o they_o who_o submit_v not_o to_o the_o law_n and_o constitution_n of_o a_o church_n aught_o to_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o that_o church_n which_o be_v a_o sufficient_a mean_n and_o the_o only_a mean_n of_o preserve_v the_o peace_n and_o unity_n thereof_o and_o if_o the_o church_n of_o england_n assume_v no_o other_o power_n or_o privilege_n there_o be_v no_o ground_n of_o quarrel_n or_o exception_n against_o she_o for_o that_o but_o whereas_o he_o say_v she_o do_v not_o like_o the_o papist_n own_o any_o judge_n of_o controversy_n in_o religion_n if_o he_o mean_v infallible_a judge_n like_o the_o papist_n none_o say_v she_o do_v or_o if_o his_o meaning_n be_v that_o she_o own_v no_o such_o judge_n of_o controversy_n as_o to_o oblige_v any_o to_o acquiess_n in_o her_o determination_n against_o their_o own_o judgement_n as_o it_o seem_v to_o be_v by_o his_o say_n she_o require_v none_o of_o her_o member_n to_o yield_v obedience_n to_o her_o determination_n against_o the_o dictate_v of_o their_o conscience_n why_o do_v he_o molest_v and_o trouble_v any_o for_o not_o yield_v such_o obedience_n and_o if_o all_o she_o demand_v as_o he_o say_v be_v but_o that_o obedience_n be_v give_v to_o those_o law_n which_o be_v undoubted_o divine_a a_o acquiescence_n yield_v to_o some_o disputable_a point_n etc._n etc._n which_o be_v not_o against_o a_o man_n conscience_n and_o a_o conformity_n to_o some_o indifferent_a rite_n etc._n etc._n which_o all_o judge_n to_o be_v indifferent_a no_o rational_a man_n can_v sure_o except_v against_o any_o of_o this_o nor_o deny_v the_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n to_o be_v as_o much_o umpire_n and_o judge_n in_o these_o matter_n as_o the_o pastor_n and_o elder_n in_o any_o of_o the_o separate_a congregation_n it_o be_v as_o he_o very_o well_o say_v a_o vain_a thing_n for_o man_n to_o plead_v that_o they_o make_v conscience_n their_o guide_n unless_o they_o take_v scripture_n for_o their_o rule_n nor_o can_v any_o plead_v conscience_n for_o disobey_v lawful_a authority_n in_o thing_n innocent_a and_o indifferent_a where_o they_o judge_v the_o thing_n command_v to_o be_v so_o but_o what_o some_o may_v count_v indifferent_a other_o may_v judge_v sinful_a the_o scripture_n command_v obedience_n and_o to_o be_v subject_a for_o conscience-sake_n do_v sufficient_o manifest_a that_o none_o ought_v to_o obey_v or_o comply_v in_o any_o thing_n against_o conscience_n since_o none_o against_o conscience_n can_v be_v subject_a for_o conscience-sake_n it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o that_o horrid_a impiety_n and_o immorality_n have_v be_v act_v under_o pretence_n of_o conscience_n though_o they_o can_v never_o be_v justify_v upon_o the_o account_n of_o conscience_n and_o where_o any_o plead_v conscience_n against_o all_o sense_n of_o duty_n it_o be_v but_o just_a with_o god_n to_o leave_v they_o to_o a_o reprobate_a state_n of_o mind_n but_o some_o man_n abandon_v or_o abuse_v conscience_n will_v never_o justify_v other_o despise_v and_o deride_v of_o it_o whether_o dissenter_n endeavour_v after_o the_o best_a information_n they_o be_v able_a to_o attain_v unto_o and_o in_o other_o thing_n do_v their_o duty_n be_v no_o part_n of_o this_o query_n but_o if_o they_o do_v not_o they_o be_v too_o blame_v and_o will_v have_v the_o more_o to_o answer_v for_o another_o day_n and_o can_v with_o that_o satisfaction_n bear_v their_o present_a suffering_n which_o otherwise_o they_o may_v do_v as_o for_o the_o ground_n of_o their_o separation_n whether_o sufficient_a to_o justify_v it_o or_o excuse_v they_o of_o schism_n will_v be_v more_o seasonable_o argue_v when_o this_o answerer_n or_o his_o adherent_n shall_v tell_v we_o of_o such_o a_o judge_n as_o in_o the_o query_n be_v inquire_v after_o to_o determine_v who_o be_v in_o the_o right_n and_o who_o in_o the_o wrong_n who_o keep_v to_o and_o who_o swerve_v from_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o gospel_n query_n vii_o whether_o to_o inflict_v corporal_a punishment_n upon_o any_o as_o transgressor_n in_o those_o matter_n which_o no_o man_n or_o society_n of_o man_n whatever_o have_v authority_n to_o pronounce_v a_o judicial_a difinitive_a sentence_n in_o so_o as_o to_o make_v it_o any_o man_n duty_n to_o yield_v his_o assent_n or_o obedience_n thereunto_o be_v not_o to_o execute_v before_o judgement_n and_o whether_o to_o do_v so_o be_v not_o against_o all_o rule_n and_o form_n of_o justice_n both_o divine_a and_o humane_a and_o such_o a_o violation_n of_o the_o law_n and_o light_n of_o nature_n as_o no_o sober_a or_o judicious_a heathen_a be_v ever_o yet_o guilty_a of_o reply_v to_o the_o answer_n to_o this_o query_n have_v not_o this_o officious_a person_n take_v on_o he_o the_o answer_a question_n before_o he_o understand_v they_o he_o may_v have_v spare_v his_o pain_n in_o all_o he_o have_v here_o say_v have_v only_o beat_v the_o air_n and_o fight_v with_o his_o own_o shadow_n it_o be_v not_o therefore_o the_o gentleman_n be_v mean_o read_v as_o he_o say_v but_o the_o clergyman_n not_o understand_v what_o he_o read_v that_o obtrude_v upon_o the_o world_n the_o error_n and_o absurdity_n we_o here_o meet_v with_o the_o query_n not_o be_v so_o impertinent_a as_o his_o ignorance_n apprehend_v it_o nothing_o be_v more_o evident_o unjust_a then_o that_o any_o shall_v suffer_v as_o transgressor_n in_o those_o matter_n wherein_o in_o none_o be_v authorise_v to_o pass_v a_o judicial_a definitive_a sentence_n whether_o they_o have_v therein_o transgress_v or_o not_o in_o which_o case_n to_o punish_v be_v to_o execute_v before_o judgement_n and_o that_o we_o say_v be_v such_o a_o violation_n of_o the_o law_n and_o light_n of_o nature_n as_o no_o sober_a or_o judicious_a heathen_a be_v ever_o yet_o guilty_a of_o have_v we_o not_o then_o to_o do_v with_o a_o ingenious_a and_o pleasant_a person_n who_o have_v spend_v above_o twenty_o page_n to_o no_o purpose_n be_v whole_o from_o the_o question_n have_v at_o last_o the_o face_n or_o folly_n rather_o to_o tell_v we_o he_o hope_v now_o it_o appear_v to_o be_v no_o violation_n of_o the_o law_n or_o light_n of_o nature_n to_o inflict_v punishment_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n when_o every_o child_n that_o can_v but_o read_v english_a will_v have_v tell_v he_o that_o not_o to_o inflict_v punishment_n in_o
say_v to_o tolerate_v unruly_a and_o vain_a talker_n and_o deceiver_n who_o vent_v their_o idle_a fancy_n to_o corrupt_v and_o withdraw_v other_o from_o the_o simplicity_n of_o the_o truth_n be_v a_o indication_n of_o more_o cruelty_n than_o to_o tolerate_v so_o many_o thief_n and_o murderer_n upon_o public_a road_n and_o highway_n this_o answerer_n be_v by_o no_o mean_n to_o be_v tolerate_v have_v manifest_v himself_o so_o unruly_a and_o vain_a a_o talker_n and_o deceiver_n as_o he_o have_v do_v query_n xxvii_o whether_o can_v any_o think_v that_o they_o who_o persecute_v christ_n in_o his_o member_n despoil_v they_o of_o their_o good_n and_o imprison_v their_o person_n and_o that_o too_o for_o their_o faithful_a adhere_n to_o the_o plain_a and_o undoubted_a command_n of_o their_o heavenly_a sovereign_n will_v speed_v better_o at_o the_o great_a day_n of_o account_n than_o those_o who_o christ_n himself_o have_v tell_v we_o shall_v be_v then_o reject_v but_o for_o not_o visit_v and_o relieve_v his_o poor_a member_n when_o in_o want_n in_o sickness_n or_o any_o other_o adversity_n reply_v to_o the_o answer_n to_o this_o query_n instead_o of_o answer_v this_o query_n it_o be_v very_o judicious_o object_v it_o have_v many_o thing_n questionable_a in_o it_o and_o with_o as_o great_a judgement_n and_o to_o as_o little_a purpose_n he_o likewise_o tell_v we_o that_o none_o be_v true_a member_n of_o christ_n beside_o those_o that_o be_v unite_v to_o his_o church_n for_o that_o christ_n be_v the_o head_n and_o his_o church_n his_o body_n and_o as_o he_o also_o judicious_o observe_v no_o one_o can_v be_v a_o member_n belong_v to_o the_o head_n unless_o he_o be_v some_o way_n or_o other_o unite_v to_o the_o body_n but_o sure_a our_o answerer_n be_v the_o first_o pretend_v christian_n that_o ever_o question_v the_o soundness_n of_o christ_n body_n the_o holy_a catholic_n church_n or_o that_o a_o christian_n join_v to_o it_o may_v endanger_v his_o internal_a union_n to_o christ_n who_o be_v hâ—â—d_v and_o wherefore_o do_v he_o here_o tell_v we_o what_o the_o query_n neither_o deny_v nor_o question_n that_o the_o church_n of_o england_n be_v a_o sound_a part_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n unless_o to_o manifest_v his_o dialectic_a art_n in_o prove_v that_o whoever_o in_o any_o thing_n withdraw_v themselves_o from_o any_o part_n of_o christ_n body_n cut_v themselves_o off_o from_o christ_n the_o head_n and_o therefore_o they_o who_o withdraw_v communion_n from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n though_o but_o in_o the_o least_o minute_n circumstance_n or_o ceremony_n belong_v not_o unto_o christ._n so_o that_o it_o seem_v with_o this_o learned_a and_o judicious_a answerer_n out_o of_o the_o ceremonial_a pale_a of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n there_o be_v no_o salvation_n and_o if_o any_o be_v punish_v for_o so_o cut_a themselves_o off_o from_o christ_n the_o head_n their_o punishment_n be_v no_o persecution_n quod_fw-la erat_fw-la demonstrandum_fw-la great_a wit_n according_a to_o the_o proverb_n have_v short_a memory_n he_o can_v not_o else_o have_v so_o soon_o forget_v which_o he_o but_o now_o reprove_v the_o independent_n for_o viz._n their_o evacuate_a one_o main_a article_n of_o the_o christian_a creed_n faith_n in_o one_o catholic_n church_n for_o that_o as_o he_o say_v they_o restrain_v it_o to_o themselves_o whereas_o he_o so_o restrain_v it_o to_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o that_o he_o allow_v of_o none_o withdraw_v themselves_o from_o her_o communion_n to_o belong_v unto_o christ_n the_o one_o main_a article_n therefore_o of_o his_o christian_a creed_n faith_n in_o one_o catholic_n church_n be_v it_o seem_v faith_n in_o the_o church_n of_o england_n or_o rather_o faith_n in_o whatever_o church_n be_v uppermost_a and_o though_o out_o of_o she_o there_o be_v no_o salvation_n yet_o for_o argument_n sake_n he_o will_v suppose_v that_o those_o who_o separate_v from_o her_o communion_n even_o in_o her_o very_a ceremony_n be_v notwithstanding_o such_o their_o separation_n real_a member_n of_o christ_n mystical_a body_n yet_o none_o of_o they_o he_o say_v be_v persecute_v for_o their_o faithful_a adhere_n unto_o christ_n or_o the_o undoubted_a and_o plain_a command_n of_o their_o heavenly_a sovereign_n nor_o do_v the_o query_n say_v they_o be_v but_o suppose_v as_o he_o suppose_v that_o any_o shall_v be_v punish_v for_o assemble_v together_o to_o pray_o or_o partake_v of_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o gospel_n which_o christ_n have_v institute_v and_o require_v the_o observation_n of_o will_v not_o such_o be_v persecute_v for_o their_o faithful_a adhere_n unto_o christ_n and_o to_o the_o plain_a and_o undoubted_a command_n of_o their_o heavenly_a sovereign_n but_o say_v our_o answerer_n let_v the_o gentleman_n produce_v one_o person_n that_o ever_o suffer_v for_o perform_v any_o essential_a duty_n of_o christian_a religion_n we_o know_v not_o what_o he_o may_v esteem_v a_o essential_a duty_n of_o christian_a religion_n who_o be_v one_o with_o he_o who_o declare_v the_o outward_a worship_n of_o god_n 99_o to_o be_v no_o part_n of_o religion_n but_o if_o he_o will_v allow_v pray_v preach_a and_o administer_a the_o sacrament_n to_o be_v essential_a duty_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n as_o by_o all_o good_a christian_n they_o have_v hitherto_o be_v esteem_v he_o need_v not_o go_v beyond_o his_o own_o parish_n to_o meet_v with_o those_o who_o have_v suffer_v and_o deep_o suffer_v even_o by_o his_o instigation_n for_o the_o performance_n of_o those_o duty_n but_o he_o tell_v we_o it_o be_v not_o for_o the_o performance_n of_o those_o duty_n but_o for_o the_o disorderly_a and_o irregular_a way_n of_o perform_v they_o that_o they_o be_v punish_v very_o good_a by_o what_o rule_n then_o do_v he_o judge_v the_o way_n of_o their_o performance_n disorderly_a and_o irregular_a all_o order_n consist_v in_o the_o due_a observation_n of_o some_o rule_n now_o if_o he_o will_v tell_v 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station_n and_o calling_n he_o mean_v as_o he_o elsewhere_o say_v their_o usurp_a the_o office_n of_o bishop_n as_o well_o as_o of_o the_o inferior_a clergy_n he_o have_v thereon_o already_o have_v the_o judgement_n of_o as_o learned_a and_o judicious_a a_o divine_a as_o most_o the_o church_n of_o england_n can_v boast_v of_o and_o for_o their_o be_v disobedient_a though_o he_o have_v advise_v we_o to_o resign_v up_o ourselves_o unto_o the_o father_n of_o the_o church_n he_o have_v not_o yet_o tell_v we_o they_o be_v to_o be_v obey_v in_o whatever_o they_o shall_v or_o may_v command_v we_o so_o that_o neither_o can_v the_o command_n of_o governor_n nor_o law_n of_o superior_n be_v this_o rule_n nor_o indeed_o ought_v else_o but_o the_o will_n of_o god_n reveal_v in_o his_o word_n to_o the_o law_n and_o to_o the_o testimony_n be_v the_o old_a rule_n and_o the_o divine_a institution_n be_v still_o the_o only_a rule_n to_o judge_v of_o the_o orderly_a and_o disorderly_a performance_n of_o all_o religious_a duty_n â—_o by_o and_o if_o the_o manner_n of_o their_o performance_n be_v not_o according_a unto_o this_o rule_n it_o be_v indeed_o disorderly_a and_o irregular_a and_o suffer_v upon_o that_o account_n may_v be_v esteem_v a_o punishment_n rather_o than_o a_o persecution_n as_o may_v likewise_o their_o suffering_n who_o be_v disobedient_a to_o the_o law_n and_o government_n of_o man_n in_o all_o civil_a and_o secular_a matter_n and_o concern_v and_o they_o also_o who_o censure_n the_o action_n of_o authority_n usurp_v the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n endanger_v the_o peace_n of_o the_o state_n and_o violate_v the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n nor_o be_v there_o great_a violater_n of_o the_o church_n unity_n than_o they_o who_o impose_v on_o christ_n disciple_n other_o condition_n of_o church-fellowship_n and_o communion_n than_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n ever_o enjoin_v or_o require_v and_o so_o far_o i_o agree_v with_o