the_o rest_n again_o out_o of_o all_o the_o world_n say_v he_o peter_n alone_o be_v choose_v who_o be_v constitute_v over_o the_o vocation_n of_o all_o nation_n and_o over_o all_z the_o apostle_n and_o over_o all_o the_o father_n of_o the_o church_n that_o all_o though_o among_o god_n people_n there_o be_v many_o priest_n and_o many_o pastor_n yet_o peter_n proper_o govern_v they_o all_o who_o principal_o christ_n do_v also_o govern_v summo_fw-la ep._n 89._o apostolorun_n summo_fw-la and_o he_o say_v further_a of_o the_o pastoral_n office_n that_o our_o lord_n will_v have_v the_o sacrament_n of_o this_o function_n so_o to_o appertain_v to_o the_o office_n of_o all_o the_o apostle_n that_o he_o place_v it_o principal_o in_o bless_a peter_n the_o chief_a of_o all_o the_o apostle_n that_o from_o he_o as_o from_o a_o certain_a head_n he_o may_v diffuse_v his_o gift_n into_o the_o whole_a body_n 4._o you_o object_n that_o leo_n can_v not_o prove_v by_o scripture_n that_o he_o say_v but_o 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ita_fw-la &_o simoni_n qui_fw-la credebat_fw-la in_o petram_fw-la christum_fw-la petri_n largitus_fw-la est_fw-la nomen_fw-la &_o secundum_fw-la metaphoram_fw-la petrae_fw-la rectè_fw-la dieitur_fw-la ei_fw-la adificabo_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la meam_fw-la super_fw-la te_fw-la s._n hieron_n in_o cap._n 16._o matth._n ego_fw-la nullum_fw-la primum_fw-la nisi_fw-la christum_fw-la sequens_fw-la beatitudini_fw-la tuus_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la cathedrae_fw-la petri_n communione_fw-la consocior_fw-la super_fw-la illam_fw-la petram_fw-la adificatam_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la scio_fw-la id._n ep._n 57_o ad_fw-la damasum_fw-la dominus_fw-la constituit_fw-la petrum_n primum_fw-la pastolorum_fw-mi petram_fw-la firmam_fw-la super_fw-la qvam_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la adificata_fw-la est_fw-la &c_n &c_n porte_fw-fr inferorum_fw-la non_fw-la valebunt_fw-la adversus_fw-la eam_fw-la porte_fw-fr inferorum_fw-la sunt_fw-la haereses_fw-la &_o haeresiarihae_fw-la iuxta_fw-la omnem_fw-la enim_fw-la modum_fw-la in_o ipso_fw-la firmata_fw-la est_fw-la fides_fw-la s._n epiphan_n in_o ancorato_n hic_fw-la est_fw-la qui_fw-la audivit_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la pasce_fw-la agnos_fw-la meos_fw-la cvi_o concreditum_fw-la est_fw-la ovile_n ibid._n petrus_n qui_fw-la paulo_fw-la ante_fw-la eum_fw-la confessus_fw-la erat_fw-la filium_fw-la dei_fw-la &_o in_o illa_fw-la confession_n appellatus_n erat_fw-la petra_n super_fw-la qvam_fw-la fabricaretur_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la paulo_fw-la post_fw-la domino_fw-la dicente_fw-la etc._n etc._n s._n aug._n enar._n ps_n 69._o vide_fw-la eundem_fw-la li._n 2_o de_fw-fr bap._n cont_n donat._n c._n 1._o intuitus_fw-la eum_fw-la jesus_n dixit_fw-la tu_fw-la es_fw-la simon_n filius_fw-la jona_n tu_fw-la vocaberis_fw-la cephas_n quod_fw-la interpretatur_fw-la petrus_n etc._n etc._n vocabulo_fw-la commode_v significans_fw-la quod_fw-la in_o eo_fw-la tanquam_fw-la in_o petra_n lapideque_fw-la firmissimo_fw-la svam_fw-la esse_fw-la adificaturus_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la s._n cyr._n 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be_v the_o sense_n of_o the_o spiritte_v of_o the_o catholic_a church_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n himself_o and_o in_o this_o sense_n of_o unbloodie_a exterior_a sacrifice_n in_o form_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n the_o catholic_a church_n diffuse_v through_o the_o whole_a world_n do_v and_o ever_o do_v universallie_o consent_v as_o i_o have_v sufficient_o declare_v 76._o last_o take_v the_o christian_a church_n thus_o believe_v and_o practise_v and_o compare_v it_o to_o the_o prophecy_n i_o confound_v the_o jew_n too_o and_o make_v a_o in_o evitable_a demonstration_n that_o the_o catholic_a church_n in_o communion_n of_o all_o nation_n thus_o offer_v a_o clean_a oblation_n to_o god_n every_o where_o be_v the_o true_a church_n of_o god_n and_o shake_v those_o people_n of_o with_o that_o of_o malachi_n my_o will_n be_v not_o in_o you_o say_v the_o lord_n of_o host_n and_o guifte_n i_o will_v not_o receive_v at_o your_o hand_n 11._o mal._n 1._o v._n 10_o 11._o for_o from_o the_o 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