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A94081 An essay in defence of the good old cause, or A discourse concerning the rise and extent of the power of the civil magistrate in reference to spiritual affairs. With a præface concerning [brace] the name of the good old cause. An equal common-wealth. A co-ordinate synod. The holy common-wealth published lately by Mr. Richard Baxter. And a vindication of the honourable Sir Henry Vane from the false aspersions of Mr. Baxter. / By Henry Stubbe of Ch. Ch. in Oxon. Stubbe, Henry, 1632-1676.; Stubbe, Henry, 1632-1676. Vindication of that prudent and honourable knight, Sir Henry Vane, from the lyes and calumnies of Mr. Richard Baxter, minister of Kidderminster. 1659 (1659) Wing S6045; Thomason E1841_1; ESTC R209626 97,955 192

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obedience Secondly Seeing that of late years there have been several plots and designs against her Majesties Person and Realm and several hostile attempts have been made upon new pretenses and purposes for the restoring again of the Catholick Religion by force of Arms a thing promoted in other parts of the World but more particularly against the Queens Majestie and her dominions then any other Protestant Prince with which violent undertakings and practises her Majestie being otherwise gracious and milde in her behaviour towards her Subjects being grievously provoked against the Catholicks who owning and obeying the Apostolique Sea in the guidance of their Faith and Religion were easily suspected to favour such contrivances and invasions hath made more severe Lawes and executed them more rigorously then She would otherwise in case such hostile attempts and warrs had not intervened We that we may approve unto her Majesty our fidelity in this particular case do sincerely professe and by this our publique deed do notifie unto the whole Christian World that in case of Conspiracies and Plots against the life of Her Majesty of invasions and hostile attempts made by any Forreign Prelate Prince or Potentate either joyntly or singly for the disturbance or destruction of her Majesties person or dominions upon design or under pretence of restoring the Roman-Catholique Religion in England or Ireland that we will defend her Majesties Person Realmes and Dominions from all such hostile attempts and injuries And we do further profess that we will discover and reveal as well as oppose and resist to our utmost endeavour all Conspiracies and Designs of any Prelate Prince or Potentate whatsoever which shall tend any way to the destruction of her Majesties person and subversion of her Dominions and we will endeavour as farr as we shall be any way able to perswade all Catholiques into the like sentiments Thirdly if after any sentence of excommunication pronounced or to be pronounced against her Majesty or precedaneously to any conspiracy invasion or hostile attempt to be made the Pope should declare her Majesties native subjects to be excommunicated unlesse they relinquish their allegiance and the defence of her We in these and all such like cases professe that neither we our selves nor any Lay-Catholiques borne within her Majesties dominions should be obliged in Conscience by any such censure so as to obey it But notwithstanding any Authority or sentence of excommunication pronounced or to be pronounced as aforesaid we will adhere unto and defend our Queen and Native Country as we are bound in duty and performe all due obedience unto her Majesty in Temporalls Fourthly because it is certain that whilest we by a Christian and sincere profession manifest to her Majesty our good affection and fidelity towards her others will not be wanting to condemn such our deed and misinterpret and create odium unto us in al places but especially with his holinesse to the great prejudice of our good names and persons unlesse we timely prevent such their misreports We humbly desire that her Majesty would be pleased that as in this our recognition we render to her Grace what is due to Caesar so for the stopping the mouthes of all calumniators we may have liberty in the like publique manner to declare that whilest we professe due allegiance to her Majesty we do not intend to recede from that duty which we owe our Supream Spirituall Pastor Wherefore we acknowledge and confesse that the Bishop of Rome is the Successour of S. Peter in that Sea and that he hath not lesse nor yet more Authority and jurisdiction over us and all other Christians then the said Apostle had enstated on him by command and concession of Christ our Saviour and that we will obey his holinesse as farr as we are bounden by the Law of God which we doubt not but it may consist very well with such our obedience a we have above professed towards our Temporall Prince For as we are ready to adventure our lives for the defence of her Majesty and our N●ive Country so we are resolved to become a sacrifice rather then violate or diminish the lawfull Authority of the Catholique Church of Christ William Bishop John Colleton John Mush Robert Charnocke John Bossevile Antony Hebborne Roger Cadwallador Robert Drury Antony Champney John sackson Francis Barneby Oswald Needham Richard Button I thought fit to publish this their declaration that so all of that religion because of some Italianated or Hispaniolized Authors may not suffer This hath been the generall doctrine in France and England heretofore nor do I doubt but our State might obtain the like declaration in these dayes from multitudes of the Romish Church who thereupon might enjoy a Toleration moderated according to the conveniency of the Republique But as for the Jesuits and such as shall not assent unto some such full ample and satisfactory declaration I think all means are not onely necessary but requisite against them that may secure us from the abettours of a forreign power unto which they would subject us let them rejoyce in a foolish Canonization at Rome whilest they are executed at Tiburne for Traytors I have been told that the great sufferance of Papists under the late Arch-bishop of Canterbury did extend no further then those I plead for if so I must do him the right to lament the condition of great and invidious favorites whose best actions are lyable to misconstructions nor have they any defence against popular prejudices It hath been declared by the Episcoparians that they did not suffer for their Religion Oh! let not us be inferiour to them in goodly professions Let not us give the one or other cause of being in a fort Martyrs whilest we become persecutors James 3.17 18. The wisdom that is from above is first pure then peaceable gentle and easy to be intreated full of mercy and good fruites without partiality and without hypocrisy And the Fruit of righteousnesse is sown in peace of them that make peace FINIS
their deserting that profession which they have made of faith unto the Church And their reason is because every Republick ought to have power to punish offenders But as to their argument it is false that Christ hath any such Church organical as they mean and as I shall shew possibly in a discourse concerning the personal reign of Christ And if he had any such Chimarical Church yet would not that be destitute of power to subdue and chastise offenders For saith the Apostle though we walk in the flesh we do not warre after the flesh for the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds casting down imaginations and every high thing that exalteth it self against the knowledge of God and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ And having in readiness to revenge all disobedience when your disobedience is fulfilled But since it is or may be stated that Baptisme is no admission into a particular Church nor an assent unto the Articles and Confession of a particular Church but something else and Babie-baptisme as established upon the resembling practise of the Jews in their Proselytes of justice was of no validity though conferred unlesse the childe baptized being come to years of discretion did own the act of the Church or Council which if he did not he was not looked upon as an Apostate but as one that had alwayes been a Gentile And I think if we enquire into the usage and judgment of the Ancients the said Infant-baptisme will amount to no such obligation without the Additional of Confirmation But let these things be true or false Roffensis in his book against Luther Art 33. saith that he denied both That the Pope could force men to return to the profession of that faith which they once embraced or punish them for such their relinquishing thereof Yet in this the Papists deal more ingenuously with those they persecute then others do for they shew them a Catholick Church to which they have vowed obedience They shew them a Judge and that an infallible authoritative one so as they can neither dispute the power nor the equity of the sentence All which pretenses though they be vain and empty cosenages yet is the procedure more fair and rational then if without these formalities and circumstances one should suffer To conclude I should here become an humble Supplyant for those of the Episcopal Divines who understanding the principles of that Church-way which they profess have learned in all conditions to be content and in their prosperity were neither rash in defining nor forward in persecuting soberly-tender Consciences It is certain we owe much to their learned defences of Protestancy against the Papists and several other their labours and may reap much more benefit thereby if they may have a greater security paying that respect which they ought to their Governours and praying for them that they may live peaceably under them then at present they enjoy in their walkings In like manner I should plead for such Catholicks as adhere to the doctrine of Widdrington or Preston and Blackwel c. denying the Popes power any way in Temporals to depose Magistrates I hope I do not by this Declaration reflect upon what hath been publikely noted concerning Popery and Prelacy it being to me inconceivable that by those terms any thing should be meant but the Popes power in temporals and the Bishops domineering in Parliament as Barons and spiritual Lords to dispose of lands or the civil obedience of subjects such being ready to sacrifice their lives as well as fortunes for the defence of their Heretical Governours in secular lawful quarrels since this is their judgement whatsoever Mr. Baxter ignorantly and foolishly charge the Papists in general with I DO PROFESSE UNTO THE WORLD AND ACQUIT MY SELF OF ANY WAY CONTRIBUTING TO THEIR OPPRESSION If I have evinced the Lawfulnesse and necessity of an universal Toleration and if it be the basis upon which our Common-wealth stands and Principle which is owned as neither of the aforesaid can suffer upon a Religious account so neither ought they to be damnified upon a Civil To vindicate the Widdringtonian Catholicks now in England I shall not recite any particular testimony out of their writings nor mention Mr. George Blackwell Arch-Presbyter of the English seminary Priests nor others who upon several occasions have declared themselves I shall only set down the testimony of thirteen Reverend and learned English Priests with whom twice thirty others would have joyned These are all Widd ington own word in h●● confutation of T. F part 1 cap. 5. if their protestation had not been made so suddenly who to give assurance of their loyalty to the late Queen Elizabeth did by a publike instrument written in parchment thus declare themselves WHereas it hath pleased our dread Soveraign Lady to take some notice of the Faith and Loyalty of us her natural born subjects Secular Priests as it appeareth in the late Proclamation and of her Prince-like Clentency hath given a sufficient earnest of some merciful savour towards us being all subject by the Laws of the Realm to death by our return into the Countrey after our taking the order of Priesthood since the first year of her Majesties reign and only demandeth of us a true profession of our allegiance thereby to be assured of our fidelity to her Majesties Person Crown Estate and Dignity We whose names are underwritten in most humble wise prostrate at her Majesties feet do acknowledge our selves infinitely bound unto her Majesty therefore and are most willing to give such Assurance and satisfaction in this point as any Catholique Priests can or ought to give unto their Sovereigns First therefore we acknowledge the Queens Majesty to have as full authority power soveraignity over us and over all the subjects of the Realm Thus farre in English out of VVidrington against T. F. what follows is translated out of his Latine copy published in append ad disp Theolog. part 2. Sect. 1. §. 6. as any her Highness Predecessours ever had Moreover we do acknowledg profess that we are of our own accord willing and ready in all occasions and emergencies to obey her commands as farre as any Christian Priests either in this kingdom or any other part of the world were ever obliged by the Law of God and Christianity to obey their temporal Princes viz. to pay taxes and other customs belonging to the Crown to obey her Majesties Laws and Magistrates in all Civil cases to pray to God that he would grant in his good pleasure unto her Majestie a quiet and peaceable reign in this life and hereafter eternal happiness And this our Recognition do we think to be so firmly grounded upon the word of God that no Authority Cause or pretense of such can absolve us more then any Protestant or ought to do so from paying her Majestie all Civil and Temporal