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to_o be_v altogether_o in_o vain_a where_o the_o infection_n be_v general_a but_o that_o it_o may_v further_o appear_v the_o doctrine_n that_o i_o affirm_v touch_v the_o authority_n church_n exit_fw-la mmunication_n by_o bishop_n prove_v by_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o primi_fw-la church_n of_o bishop_n in_o excommunicate_v to_o be_v true_a and_o to_o have_v be_v the_o usual_a practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o best_a time_n and_o state_n of_o it_o i_o think_v good_a in_o this_o place_n to_o add_v to_o my_o former_a testimony_n and_o answer_n the_o authority_n of_o certain_a counsel_n wherein_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n do_v evidente_o show_v itself_o and_o first_o to_o begin_v with_o the_o canon_n attribute_v to_o the_o apostle_n and_o so_o oft_o allege_v by_o t._n c._n in_o the._n 32._o or_o as_o it_o be_v in_o some_o book_n the._n 33._o of_o those_o canon_n it_o be_v thus_o decree_v 32._o can._n apost_n 32._o if_o any_o priest_n or_o deacon_n be_v excommunicate_v of_o his_o bishop_n it_o may_v not_o be_v lawful_a for_o any_o other_o to_o receive_v he_o but_o only_o the_o party_n that_o have_v separate_v he_o except_o that_o bishop_n die_v which_o have_v excommunicate_v he_o in_o this_o canon_n power_n to_o excommunicate_v and_o also_o to_o absolve_v be_v in_o plain_a word_n commit_v to_o the_o bishop_n alone_o the_o fifte_a canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a speak_v of_o this_o matter_n in_o these_o word_n 5._o con._n nicae_n can_v 5._o concern_v those_o that_o be_v separate_v from_o the_o communion_n be_v they_o clerk_n or_o lie_v man_n by_o the_o bishop_n which_o be_v in_o every_o province_n let_v the_o sentence_n stand_v according_a to_o the_o canon_n which_o do_v pronounce_v those_o that_o be_v eject_v of_o some_o not_o to_o be_v admit_v of_o other_o but_o let_v it_o be_v examine_v whether_o the_o party_n be_v excommunicate_v through_o the_o indignation_n or_o contention_n or_o frowardness_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o for_o this_o 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bishop_n etc._n etc._n if_o the_o authority_n and_o power_n of_o excommunicate_v do_v not_o belong_v to_o the_o bishop_n alone_o in_o the_o second_o council_n of_o carthage_n canon_n 8._o it_o be_v likewise_o determine_v that_o 8._o con._n carthag_a 2._o can_n 8._o if_o a_o priest_n be_v excommunicate_v or_o punish_v by_o his_o own_o bishop_n shall_v presume_v to_o celebrate_v he_o shall_v be_v accurse_v in_o the_o sixth_o council_n of_o carthage_n can._n 10._o the_o same_o be_v affirm_v 10._o con._n carthag_a 6._o can_n 10._o in_o the_o council_n hold_v at_o sardica_n can._n 13._o or_o as_o it_o be_v in_o his_o i_o ooke_v 16._o it_o be_v in_o like_a manner_n decree_v that_o if_o a_o de_fw-fr con_v or_o a_o priest_n or_o any_o of_o the_o leargie_n be_v excommunicate_v 13._o con._n sardic_n can._n 13._o of_o his_o own_o bishop_n and_o shall_v flee_v to_o a_o other_o bishop_n understand_v that_o he_o be_v excommunicate_v of_o his_o own_o bishop_n he_o may_v not_o give_v unto_o he_o the_o communion_n do_v thereby_o injury_n to_o his_o brother_n and_o fellow_n bishop_n by_o all_o these_o canon_n and_o ancient_a counsel_n it_o be_v evident_a that_o from_o time_n to_o time_n even_o in_o the_o best_a and_o pure_a state_n of_o the_o church_n bishop_n alone_o have_v have_v authority_n to_o excommunicate_v and_o least_o t._n c._n shall_v here_o flee_v to_o his_o old_a shift_n and_o new_o devise_v distinction_n action_n the_o bishop_n do_v excommunicate_v alone_o not_o as_o rator_n of_o the_o action_n that_o this_o be_v attribute_v to_o the_o bishop_n because_o he_o be_v the_o chief_a of_o the_o action_n and_o do_v moderate_v it_o and_o not_o because_o the_o authority_n and_o power_n of_o excommunicate_v remain_v in_o he_o alone_o although_o the_o manifest_a word_n of_o the_o counsel_n over_o ▪_o throw_v it_o and_o it_o be_v not_o to_o be_v iustify_v by_o any_o learning_n or_o good_a authority_n yet_o that_o the_o sard._n con._n sard._n reader_n may_v the_o better_o 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his_o sentence_n either_o confirm_v or_o correct_v etc._n etc._n what_o need_v these_o affection_n be_v sear_v in_o the_o bishop_n if_o he_o can_v not_o excommunicate_v without_o the_o consent_n of_o a_o signiory_n or_o of_o the_o people_n for_o the_o signiory_n may_v well_o enough_o withstand_v this_o his_o hastynesse_n wherefore_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o the_o bishop_n alone_o may_v excommunicate_v but_o yet_o to_o cut_v off_o all_o further_o cavil_v i_o will_v have_v you_o to_o understande_v that_o i_o do_v not_o so_o give_v the_o authority_n of_o excommunicate_v to_o the_o bishop_n alone_o ces_fw-fr the_o authority_n of_o excommunication_n ascride_v to_o the_o bishop_n not_o in_o mite_n but_o l_o ces_fw-fr or_o to_o any_o one_o man_n that_o i_o think_v he_o may_v excommunicate_v when_o he_o lyste_v without_o just_a cause_n and_o due_a proof_n of_o the_o same_o my_o meaning_n be_v not_o to_o make_v he_o both_o accuser_n and_o judge_n i_o do_v not_o think_v that_o he_o ought_v to_o 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