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A91250 Prynne the Member reconciled to Prynne the barrester. Or An ansvver to a scandalous pamphlet, intituled, Prynne against Prynne. Wherein is a cleare demonstration, that William Prynne, utter barrester of Lincolnes Inne, in his soveraigne power of parliaments and kingdomes, is of the same judgement with, and no wayes contradictory to William Prynne Esquire, a Member of the House of Commons in his memento. Wherein the unlawfullnesse of the proceedings against the King, and altering the present government is manifested out of his former writings and all cavils and calumnies of this scandalous pamphleteer fully answered. / By William Prynne Esquire, barrester at law, and a Member of the House of Commons. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1649 (1649) Wing P4043; Thomason E558_5; ESTC R203281 19,546 27

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PRYNNE The MEMBER reconciled to PRYNNE The BARRESTER OR An Answer to a Scandalous Pamphlet Intituled PRYNNE against PRYNNE Wherein is a cleare demonstration That William Prynne Vtter Barrester of Lincolnes Inne in his Soveraigne Power of Parliaments and Kingdomes is of the same Judgement with and no wayes contradictory to William Prynne Esquire A Member of the House of Commons in his MEMENTO Wherein the unlawfullnesse of the Proceedings against the King and altering the present Government is manifested out of his former writings and all cavils and calumnies of this scandalous Pamphleteer fully Answered By William Prynne Esquire Barrester at Law and a Member of the House of Commons Tit. 1. 12. 13. One of themselves even a Prophet of their owne said The Cretians ARE ALWAYES LYARS evill beasts slow Bellies This witnesse is true wherefore rebuke them sharply that they may be sound in the faith LONDON Printed Anno Dom. 1649. To the Reader Curteous Reader MEeting this morning with a printed Pamphlet intituled Prynne against Prynne Or the answeer of William Prynne Vtter-Barrester of Lincolnes Inne to a pamphlet lately published by william Prynne Esq a Member of the House of Commons intituled a breif Memento to the present unparliamentary I unto touching their present intentions and proceedings to Depose and Execute CHALES STEVVARD their lawfull Soveraigne with an Imprimatur of Theodore Iennings Jan. 25. 1648. prefixed to it written as I am credibly informed by a Colonell a Member of the Commons House and one of his Majesties present Judges to represent and render me an Apostate and turne-coate to the world like himselfe and to gaine some colour for this unjust and illegall proceedings if possible from my writings who ever from my Soule abominated and declared against them as Jesuiticall and Treasonable in all my writings I held it my duty to returne this short and speedy Answer thereunto both to vindicate my wounded reputation against all imputations of inconstancy and mutability in my principles or actions which have been alwayes loyall uniform ayming onely at the Common-good not vertiginous mutable perfidious and selfish as his and his Confederates appeare to all men It is Gods owne glory to be a Mal. 3. 6. unchangeable b Iam 1. 17. unvariable and without shadow of turning c Heb. 13. 8. yesterday to day and the same for ever d Camdens Elizabeth Speed Hollinshed SEMPER EADEM was Qu●een Elizabeths Motto and Semper idem shall be through Gods assisstance mine who as I am commanded by God himselfe to be e 1 Cor 15. 58. alwayes stedfast unmoveable and f Prov. 24 21. not to meddle or confederate with those who are given to change So I trust to manifest my selfe in this ensuing Tract in despite of calumny to be still the same I was heretofore both to the Kings and Kingdomes true and reall interest which now lye both at Stake likely to be speedily and irrecoverably lost by some false rooking Gamesters who play badly for themselves Which is the feare and apprehension of their and his poore Countries freind and wel-wisher for which he is once more like to become a Martyr January 29 ●648 William Prynne PRYNNE the Member reconciled to PRYNNE the BARRESTER HAd the Compi●er of the late absurd Pamphlet intituled Prynne against Prynne as many guts in his Braines as he hath in his Belly or as much Honesty Sincerity in his Head Heart as he hath disloyalty insincerity in both he could ●ot have been so irrationall or dishonest as to have published such a peece of Folly and Non-sence as this instead of answering the Memento which though a Right worshipfull Colonell and a Member too yet he dares not encounter his braines being all sunke into his guts his Pen as blunt as his sword that never yet slew nor wounded one Cavalier though he hath gained and received some thousand of pounds for his Grand Services in these late Warres When this Great Champion dare op●nly appeare in the field against any thing I have written with his name thereto affixed of which it seemes he is ashamed I dare assure him William Prynne the Barrester or William Prynne the Member will hand to hand encounter W. P. the Colonel or W. P. the Burgesse of W. though a Gyant in bulke but a Pigmy in most things else But to come briefly to the matter It is very true which he relates pag. 1. That William Prynne Esquire a Member of the House of Commons did in his Briefe Memento endeavour to diswade the rest of the Members sitting in Parliament from acting or proceeding against the King And had they been so provident wise and loyall as to have given an eare to his seasonable timely advise they had never plunged themselves the Kingdome into such difficulties and confusions as now they have done by their unjust and illegall tryall and condemnation of the King to have His head severed from his shoulders by a New erected high Court of Iustice without authority law justice or any legall or judiciall proceedings for which they found no warrant nor president in William Prynne the Barrester his Soverain Power of Parliaments Kingdomes but many arguments against and dehortations from it First The very Title of his Booke had the purblinde Pamphleter perused it might have deterred him and his fellow-members from such a ●esuiticall and popish proceeding to the eternall infamy and scandall of our Religion it is this The treachery and disloyalty of Papists to their Soveraignes in Doctrine and Practise together with the first part of the Soveraigne power of Parliaments and Kingdomes Wherein the Traiterous Antimonarchicall Doctrines practises and attempts of Papists upon the Persons Crowns Prerogatives of their Soveraignes with the dangerous designes affests and consequences of their present illegal arming and accesse to the Kings person by meanes of evil Councellors are briefly discovered The Iurisdiction Power priviledges claimed exercised by our popish Parliaments Prelates Lords and Commons in former ages exactly paralleld with those now claimed by the Lords and Com●mons in this present Parliament which are manifested to be far more loyall dutifull moderate more consistant with lesse invasive 〈◊〉 and destructive to the pretended Soveraigne power and Prerogative of the King then those in former ages And the High Court of Parliament proved by pregnant Reasons and Authorities to be the mos● soveraigne power of all other in this Kingdome c. By William Prynne Utter-Barrester of Lincolnes Inne with this License of the Commons House affixed to it It is this second day of May 1643. Ordered by the Committee of the House of Commons in Parliament for printing that this Booke intituled the Treachery and disloyal●y of papists to their Soveraigns c. be printed by Michael Sparke Seino● Iohn White Whence the Argument stands thus Master Prynne the Barrester though he mainteined the High Court of Parliament to be the most Soveraigne Power of all others in
and crosseth the very practise and principles of the protestant Religion If so then both are alike within the intent and meaning of this Law and Oath though the Pope and his instruments be pincipally intended 2dly These clauses in the Oath That the Pope neither by himselfe nor with any other hath any power or authority to depose the King c. That I will bear true Allegiance to his Maiesty his Heirs and Successors and him and them will defend to the utter most of my power against all attempts whatsoever a universall affirmative from or by the Pope or any others which shall be made against his or their persons their Crown and Dignity by reason or colour of any such sentence or Declaration or otherwise Which last words in the dis-junctive coupled with the former generall ones and compared with the following clause And that neither the Pope nor any person whatsoever hath power to absolve me from this Oath or any part thereof c. and with the first branch of it I do truly and sincerely acknowledge professe testify and declare in my Conscience before God and the world that our Soveraigne Lord King Charles is lawfull and rightful King of this Realme and of all his Majesties Dominions and Countries with this addition that all Protestant Subjects are enjoyned to take this Oath as well as Papists and more especially every member of the Commons house of Parl. without taking whereof he is utterly disabled to be a Member Doe infalliby evidence that this Law and Oaths related not only though principally to the Popes Usurpations in this Realm but to all other Subjects usurpations to depose or murther the King by any usurped or pretended Authority or High Court of Justice whatsoever But that which clears it unanswerably is this That this very Act provides That every Gentleman or person of higher degree or any person or persons which hath born or shall bear any Office or place of Captain Leiutenant or any other place charge or Office in Camp army or Company of Soldiers or Conducters of Soldiers shall goe or passe voluntarily out of this Realme to serve any forreign Prince State or Potentate be it Protestant or Popish before that he shall become bound by obligation with two such suertyes as shall be alowed of by the Officers therein limited to take the same Bond unto our Sovereign Lord the Kings Majesty HIS HEIRES and SUCCESS●R in the sum of ●wenty pounds of currant English money at the least with condition to the effect following shall be a Felon The Tenour ●f which condition followeth viz. That if the within bounden shal not at any time thereafter be reconciled to the Pope or Sea of Rome nor Shall enter into or consent unto any practise plot or conspiracy whatsoever against the Kings maiesty his heirs and Successors or any of his or their Estate or Estates Realmes or Dominions but shall within convenient time after knowledg thereof had reveal and disclose to the Kings maiesty his heirs and Successors or some of the Lords of his or their Honourable Privy Councell all such practises plots and conspiracyes that then the said Obligation be voyd Which condition being generall extending to any Plot practise or conspiracy whatsoever against the King His Heirs and Successors or any of his or their Estate or estates Realms or Dominions without any limitation to the Pope or other sorraigne Prince State or Potentate or to popish Recusants only and reaching as well to plots practises and conspiracies by any Subjects whatsoever as well within the Realme as without be they protestants papist or whatsoever Sect or Religion fully clears and proves the Oath of Allegiance to extend though principally to the pope and forraign Princes and States and their Treasons and Conspiracies yet only unto them but likewise to the Treasons Plots Practises conspiracies by any subjects whatsoever within the realm to the presert disloyal votes acting Iesuitical proceedings of the members now sitting Thirdly For the pretended perverting of the words of this oath by Mr. Prynne viz Nor any other for nor with any other It is but the Printers oversight omission Nor doth it alter the sence in substance For if the Pope cannot joining with any other suppose the Members now sitting in the Commons house or the high Court of Iustice lawfully depose nor murther the King then certainly those Any other cannot lawfully depose nor murther him without the Pope within the true meaning of this Oath under pain of deepest perjury and Treason to boot which I desire this Pamphletter now seriously to consider if he hath any honesty or conscience lest within him 6thly What is objected out of Mr. Prynnes Appendix p. 14 is already sufficiently answered and cleared in the first and second section and there is nothing in it which can justifie the late triall arraignment and condemnation of the King in the least degree triable by no law of God or man by such an usurped and illegall Iurisdiction amounting to Tyranny in the superlative Degree And for the condemnation and beheading of Mary Queen of Scotts it was not by her own Parliament and Subjects in her own Kingdom for any Treason against them but for Treason committed in England against Queen Elizabeth where she was a Subject and no Queen at all and that by a surprise as some relate 7thly To that objected p. 15 Touching the name and Title which WILLIAM PRYNNE the Member is pleased to give to the Parliament he meanes the 45 Commons who are no Parliament now sitting calling it A present unparliamentary Iunto I William Prynne the Barrester do call to mind that when the King and divers of the Lords and Commons in the beginning of our late Troubles had deserted the Parliament I did then in my said first Part of the Soveraigne Power of Parliaments p 43 44 maintaine and prove That the remaining part was a Parliament notwithstanding the personall absence of the rest and that as long as those absent are Members of the Parliament they shall still be legally present whether they will or no. To this Mr. Prynne the Member answers First That what he hath written as a Barrester in these two Pages of his First Part will prove fatall to this Pamphletter and his Junto now sitting if well considered and truly recited For first he there proves That there can be no Parliament without the King who ought to be alwayes personally present in or neare his Parliament which he hath more fully manifested as a Barrester in his Plea for the Lords p. 7. to 13. by many Authorities and Records The 45. Commons therefore now sitting without the Lords and their Fellow Members concurrence and against their Votes having illegally and trayterously condemned the King to loose his Head and acting as an intire Parliament without the King Lords or their Fellow Members can be no Parliament at all but a meer unparliamentary J●nto by Mr. Prynne the Barresters Resolution to