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A62918 A defence of Mr. M. H's brief enquiry into the nature of schism and the vindication of it with reflections upon a pamphlet called The review, &c. : and a brief historical account of nonconformity from the Reformation to this present time. Tong, William, 1662-1727. 1693 (1693) Wing T1874; ESTC R22341 189,699 204

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p._n 49._o or_o practise_v in_o the_o make_n of_o bishop_n godolphin_n tell_v we_o that_o ancient_o according_a to_o the_o canon_n law_n and_o where_o the_o pope_n spiritual_a power_n and_o authority_n be_v in_o force_n bishop_n be_v not_o so_o much_o by_o election_n as_o postulation_n 106._o sum._n rosel_n postulat_fw-la &_o tit_n si_fw-fr ques_fw-fr pan._n 2._o p._n 106._o and_o in_o that_o case_n the_o elect_v be_v a_o bishop_n present_o without_o confirmation_n or_o consecration_n only_o by_o the_o assent_n of_o the_o superior_a and_o i_o have_v recite_v already_o the_o judgement_n of_o mr._n dodwell_n that_o every_o particular_a church_n have_v a_o power_n to_o invest_v its_o bishop_n and_o that_o the_o call_n in_o the_o assistance_n of_o other_o bishop_n be_v not_o for_o want_v of_o a_o right_a in_o themselves_o to_o do_v it_o i_o hope_v these_o gentleman_n will_v be_v more_o cautious_a how_o they_o lie_v the_o whole_a weight_n of_o episcopal_a authority_n upon_o consecration_n 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lincoln_n prohibit_v sheriff_n to_o intermeddle_v any_o more_o with_o ecclesiastical_a cause_n but_o leave_v they_o whole_o to_o the_o bishop_n 259._o 4._o l._n institut_fw-la c._n 53._o p._n 259._o and_o yet_o there_o appear_v no_o enrolment_n of_o any_o such_o charter_n till_o the_o second_o of_o rich._n 2d_o and_o cook_n himself_o mention_n the_o red_a book_n of_o henry_n the_o first_o de_fw-fr general_n placit_fw-la comitat._n extant_a in_o the_o office_n of_o the_o king_n rememb_v in_o the_o exchequer_n wherein_o it_o be_v say_v of_o the_o sheriff_n turn_v court_n ibi_fw-la agantur_fw-la primo_fw-la debita_fw-la christianitatis_fw-la jura_fw-la secundo_fw-la regis_fw-la placita_fw-la postremo_fw-la causae_fw-la singulorum_fw-la and_o he_o add_v certain_a it_o be_v the_o bishop_n consistory_n be_v erect_v and_o cause_n ecclesiastical_a remove_v from_o the_o turn_v to_o the_o consistory_n after_o the_o make_n of_o the_o say_v red_a book_n nothing_o will_v set_v this_o matter_n in_o 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