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B20551 A discourse concerning excommunication. By THomas Comber DD. Precentor of York. Comber, Thomas, 1645-1699. 1684 (1684) Wing C5459 99,055 127

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affirmation_n that_o excommunicate_a person_n be_v by_o god_n law_n to_o be_v exclude_v the_o church_n we_o see_v that_o from_o the_o history_n of_o achan_n bring_v a_o curse_n on_o the_o army_n of_o israel_n they_o will_v not_o suffer_v the_o excommunicate_a to_o bear_v arm_n in_o their_o camp_n which_o be_v also_o intimate_v in_o those_o law_n which_o cite_v that_o place_n of_o joshuah_n there_o be_v a_o anathema_n in_o the_o midst_n of_o thou_o therefore_o thou_o can_v not_o stand_v before_o thy_o enemy_n 213._o enemy_n an._n 869._o car._n calv_n cap._n 20._o tom._n ii_o pag._n 213._o and_o it_o be_v most_o clear_a by_o these_o capitular_o that_o the_o king_n authority_n do_v follow_v the_o bishop_n act_n and_o the_o temporal_a justice_n do_v punish_v he_o that_o be_v stubborn_a and_o refractory_a and_o will_v not_o obey_v the_o bishop_n sentence_n nor_o be_v bring_v to_o repentance_n by_o his_o spiritual_a censure_n thus_o lhotharius_fw-la ordain_v that_o a_o obstinate_a person_n who_o be_v excommunicate_v shall_v be_v imprison_v by_o the_o high-sheriff_n or_o the_o count_n 323._o count_n an._n 824._o capit_fw-la lhothar_n cap._n 15._o tom._n ii_o pag._n 323._o and_o he_o that_o infringe_n the_o liberty_n of_o a_o church_n be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o the_o bishop_n and_o notice_n to_o be_v give_v of_o it_o to_o other_o bishop_n and_o the_o high-sheriff_n be_v to_o make_v he_o pay_v his_o fine_a and_o if_o he_o despise_v all_o this_o be_v judge_v by_o law_n he_o be_v to_o be_v behead_v and_o his_o good_n confiscate_v 363._o confiscate_v an._n 367._o capit._fw-la lud._n 2._o cap._n 8._o ibid._n pag._n 363._o yea_o those_o who_o be_v excommunicate_a for_o fornication_n and_o do_v not_o submit_v be_v to_o be_v banish_v the_o kingdom_n and_o such_o as_o retain_v they_o be_v think_v to_o offend_v against_o god_n and_o the_o sacred_a authority_n yea_o and_o against_o the_o common_a interest_n of_o christianity_n 5._o
council_n nicaen_fw-la tom._n 2._o p._n 72._o be_v by_o various_a step_n and_o degree_n admit_v to_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o church_n and_o the_o participation_n of_o holy_a office_n again_o although_o they_o do_v begin_v to_o be_v sensible_a of_o their_o crime_n for_o they_o make_v four_o order_n of_o these_o penitent_n first_o the_o mourner_n who_o stand_v without_o the_o church_n lament_v their_o sin_n in_o sackcloth_n and_o ash_n kneel_v down_o to_o the_o priest_n and_o faithful_a who_o go_v in_o and_o beg_v their_o prayer_n for_o they_o when_o they_o have_v continue_v under_o this_o severe_a discipline_n one_o or_o more_o year_n according_a to_o the_o nature_n of_o their_o offence_n they_o be_v then_o let_v in_o to_o the_o church-door_n and_o stand_v there_o below_o among_o the_o catechuman_n and_o hear_v the_o scripture_n read_v and_o preach_v whence_o they_o be_v call_v hearer_n and_o then_o these_o be_v exclude_v out_o of_o the_o church_n for_o some_o year_n after_o this_o they_o be_v admit_v into_o the_o low_a part_n of_o the_o inner_a temple_n where_o the_o faithful_a stand_v but_o so_o as_o that_o they_o be_v to_o fall_v down_o prostrate_a to_o beg_v pardon_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v call_v the_o prostrate_a and_o these_o also_o be_v send_v away_o after_o the_o prayer_n for_o penitent_n be_v say_v over_o they_o last_o the_o bishop_n admit_v they_o to_o stand_v up_o among_o the_o faithful_a and_o stay_v all_o the_o time_n of_o prayer_n among_o they_o yet_o so_o as_o they_o be_v still_o exclude_v from_o the_o participation_n of_o the_o holy_a sacrament_n and_o these_o be_v call_v the_o standard_n up_o in_o which_o state_n have_v continue_v a_o while_n they_o be_v absolve_v and_o admit_v to_o full_a communion_n by_o partake_v of_o the_o bless_a eucharist_n now_o this_o whole_a description_n of_o these_o order_n of_o penitent_n which_o be_v so_o frequent_o mention_v in_o all_o the_o author_n of_o this_o age_n that_o we_o can_v understand_v any_o of_o they_o without_o the_o knowledge_n of_o it_o i_o say_v all_o this_o be_v determine_v only_o by_o ecclesiastical_a canon_n and_o by_o the_o bishop_n authority_n without_o any_o grant_n from_o the_o emperor_n yet_o it_o be_v free_o submit_v to_o by_o all_o good_a christian_n and_o be_v a_o unanswerable_a proof_n that_o the_o whole_a church_n do_v then_o believe_v bishop_n have_v power_n from_o god_n to_o expel_v offender_n from_o sacred_a assembly_n and_o office_n and_o that_o they_o only_o can_v bind_v and_o loose_v this_o show_v they_o doubt_v not_o but_o that_o such_o as_o be_v excommunicate_v by_o the_o bishop_n be_v in_o danger_n of_o damnation_n and_o till_o they_o become_v penitent_a be_v as_o heathen_n and_o publican_n and_o in_o a_o worse_a estate_n than_o the_o new_a convert_v not_o yet_o baptise_a and_o since_o this_o discipline_n begin_v before_o the_o empire_n be_v christian_n and_o continue_v long_o after_o it_o without_o any_o grant_n from_o the_o secular_a power_n it_o follow_v that_o it_o be_v found_v original_o on_o a_o divine_a right_n which_o great_a truth_n we_o will_v now_o further_o confirm_v from_o the_o practice_n and_o opinion_n of_o the_o most_o eminent_a holy_a bishop_n of_o these_o age_n st._n athanasius_n bishop_n of_o alexandria_n excommunicate_v one_o of_o the_o emperor_n prefect_n who_o do_v much_o oppress_v the_o church_n of_o libya_n and_o certify_v s._n basil_n of_o it_o by_o his_o letter_n whereupon_o s._n basil_n also_o excommunicate_v the_o same_o person_n in_o his_o church_n 370._o church_n baron_fw-fr annal_n an._n dom._n 370._o where_o we_o may_v observe_v the_o custom_n of_o bishop_n send_v epistle_n to_o other_o church_n that_o they_o also_o may_v avoid_v the_o communion_n of_o such_o as_o they_o have_v excommunicate_v of_o which_o we_o have_v a_o memorable_a instance_n in_o s._n augustine_n who_o excommunicate_v primianus_n the_o donatist_n and_o send_v his_o tractatorian_a letter_n to_o all_o his_o fellow_n bishop_n to_o avoid_v he_o 162._o he_o conducibile_fw-la existimavimus_fw-la omnes_fw-la sanctos_fw-la consacerdotes_fw-la etc._n etc._n hâc_fw-la nostrâ_fw-la tractatoriâ_fw-la commonere_fw-la ut_fw-la omnes_fw-la primiani_fw-la communionem_fw-la diligenti_fw-la curâ_fw-la horreant_fw-la aug._n conc._n 2._o in_o psal_n 36._o vide_fw-la item_n epist_n 162._o for_o he_o that_o be_v censure_v and_o exclude_v in_o one_o church_n be_v so_o in_o all_o and_o not_o to_o be_v admit_v into_o communion_n again_o without_o the_o consent_n of_o he_o that_o first_o cast_v he_o out_o about_o this_o time_n live_v that_o famous_a bishop_n gregory_n nyssen_n who_o be_v very_o clear_a for_o the_o divine_a right_n of_o excommunication_n say_v do_v not_o believe_v that_o excommunication_n be_v a_o piece_n of_o episcopal_a presumption_n for_o it_o be_v a_o law_n of_o our_o father_n a_o ancient_a order_n of_o the_o church_n begin_v from_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n and_o be_v establish_v in_o the_o gospel_n castigat_fw-la gospel_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d greg._n nyssen_n orat._n de_fw-fr castigat_fw-la where_o we_o see_v it_o be_v evident_o affirm_v that_o though_o it_o have_v be_v practise_v under_o the_o law_n yet_o it_o be_v establish_v under_o the_o dispensation_n of_o grace_n and_o on_o that_o ground_n always_o use_v in_o the_o church_n before_o his_o time_n and_o here_o we_o can_v but_o note_v mr._n selden_n partiality_n who_o design_v to_o make_v this_o a_o proof_n that_o christian_a excommunication_n be_v derive_v from_o the_o jew_n translate_v the_o last_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quae_fw-la à_fw-fr lege_fw-la traxit_fw-la originem_fw-la et_fw-la in_o gratiâ_fw-la obtinuit_fw-la 226._o obtinuit_fw-la seld._n synedr_n l._n 1._o cap._n 10._o p._n 226._o contrary_a to_o the_o plain_a sense_n of_o the_o phrase_n and_o the_o meaning_n of_o that_o father_n who_o do_v not_o say_v it_o have_v its_o original_a from_o the_o law_n and_o obtain_v under_o the_o gospel_n but_o only_o that_o it_o begin_v under_o the_o law_n and_o be_v confirm_v or_o establish_v in_o the_o gospel_n s._n ambrose_n live_v not_o long_o after_o viz._n an._n 380._o and_o he_o speak_v of_o the_o power_n of_o absolve_v penitent_n say_v christ_n grant_v this_o to_o his_o apostle_n which_o from_o the_o apostle_n be_v transmit_v to_o the_o episcopal_a office_n 403._o office_n ambros_n de_fw-fr poenit_fw-la l._n 2._o cap._n 2._o tom._n 4._o p._n 403._o and_o add_v the_o prodigal_n which_o go_v into_o a_o far_a country_n be_v he_o that_o be_v separate_v from_o the_o holy_a altar_n for_o he_o be_v remove_v from_o hierusalen_n that_o be_v in_o heaven_n and_o from_o be_v a_o fellow-citizen_n with_o the_o saint_n and_o of_o the_o household_n of_o god_n 404._o god_n ibid._n cap._n 3._o p._n 404._o again_o he_o note_v that_o it_o be_v the_o part_n of_o a_o good_a bishop_n to_o labour_n to_o heal_v the_o weak_a and_o to_o take_v away_o spread_a ulcer_n to_o scorch_v some_o rather_o than_o take_v they_o whole_o away_o yet_o final_o what_o can_v be_v heal_v to_o cut_v it_o off_o with_o grief_n 61._o grief_n de_fw-fr officijs_fw-la l._n 2._o cap._n 27._o tom._n 4._o p._n 61._o so_o that_o he_o reckon_v this_o proper_o and_o only_o the_o bishop_n office_n yea_o to_o show_v how_o little_o he_o think_v this_o power_n be_v derive_v from_o the_o emperor_n it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o he_o do_v interdict_v the_o emperor_n theodosius_n from_o the_o communion_n for_o some_o time_n tell_v he_o that_o after_o the_o bloody_a slaughter_n of_o so_o many_o man_n he_o ought_v to_o submit_v to_o that_o bond_n which_o by_o the_o sentence_n of_o god_n above_o be_v lay_v upon_o he_o be_v a_o bond_n that_o be_v medicinal_a and_o design_v for_o his_o cure_n which_o advice_n the_o good_a emperor_n submit_v to_o and_o return_v very_o penitent_a to_o his_o palace_n for_o he_o have_v be_v bring_v up_o in_o the_o knowledge_n of_o god_n word_n and_o understand_v what_o be_v proper_o the_o office_n of_o a_o bishop_n and_o what_o be_v the_o office_n of_o a_o king_n 158._o king_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d theodoret_n histor_n lib._n 5._o cap._n 17._o pag._n 158._o they_o be_v the_o word_n of_o theodoret_n and_o show_v that_o excommunication_n be_v then_o know_v to_o be_v no_o part_n of_o the_o prince_n office_n but_o only_o of_o the_o priest_n and_o that_o by_o authority_n give_v they_o from_o god_n whence_o the_o same_o historian_n say_v that_o the_o emperor_n a_o while_n after_o lament_v because_o he_o be_v not_o only_o exclude_v from_o the_o church_n but_o from_o heaven_n itself_o since_o christ_n have_v declare_v what_o they_o bind_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v bind_v in_o heaven_n ibidem_fw-la heaven_n idem_fw-la ibidem_fw-la so_o that_o no_o doubt_n the_o emperor_n who_o believe_v this_o do_v think_v excommunication_n be_v of_o divine_a right_n and_o found_v upon_o the_o same_o text_n we_o now_o allege_v for_o
cap._n 11._o §._o 1._o and_o so_o do_v our_o reform_a bishop_n wherefore_o i_o be_o not_o concern_v how_o the_o papal_a encroachment_n be_v tolerate_v or_o restrain_v because_o excommunication_n be_v right_o manage_v before_o they_o be_v in_o be_v and_o be_v now_o after_o they_o be_v cast_v out_o and_o now_o a_o brief_a review_n of_o these_o objection_n will_v suffice●y_v wherefore_o we_o will_v here_o represent_v they_o all_o together_o he_o allege_v many_o particular_n to_o this_o purpose_n viz._n that_o eadmerus_n say_v concern_v william_n the_o conqueror_n that_o he_o will_v not_o suffer_v any_o of_o his_o baron_n or_o minister_n to_o be_v prosecute_v or_o excommunicate_v for_o incest_n adultery_n or_o any_o other_o capital_a crime_n 197._o crime_n seld._n de_fw-fr synedr_n lib._n i._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 197._o which_o seem_v to_o be_v a_o odious_a representation_n of_o a_o monk_n who_o be_v concern_v in_o the_o controversy_n between_o anselm_n and_o the_o crown_n for_o eadmerus_n author_n of_o this_o charge_n be_v one_o of_o anselm_n monk_n the_o truth_n therefore_o i_o suppose_v be_v that_o king_n william_n expect_v to_o have_v notice_n before_o any_o of_o his_o court_n be_v excommunicate_v for_o that_o be_v one_o of_o the_o custom_n of_o their_o father_n which_o the_o english_a nobility_n get_v to_o be_v enact_v for_o a_o law_n in_o the_o statute_n of_o clarendon_n 100_o clarendon_n statut._n clarend_a matth._n paris_n an._n 1164._o p._n 100_o but_o it_o be_v not_o credible_a that_o any_o christian_a king_n shall_v presume_v to_o forbid_v discipline_n to_o be_v exercise_v in_o such_o case_n wherein_o the_o law_n of_o god_n and_o the_o example_n of_o the_o apostle_n require_v it_o shall_v be_v use_v and_o if_o king_n william_n have_v forbid_v any_o such_o thing_n his_o prohibition_n have_v be_v impious_a and_o unjust_a as_o be_v against_o the_o express_a law_n of_o god_n but_o for_o that_o custom_n of_o the_o bishop_n acquaint_v the_o king_n first_o before_o any_o such_o sentence_n be_v issue_v out_o against_o his_o chief_a officer_n there_o seem_v to_o be_v some_o reason_n for_o it_o first_o because_o the_o king_n be_v suppose_v to_o be_v able_a to_o bring_v these_o to_o amendment_n without_o any_o severity_n second_o in_o that_o age_n many_o thing_n be_v annex_v to_o excommunication_n by_o prince_n bounty_n to_o the_o church_n so_o that_o if_o this_o person_n be_v one_o of_o who_o the_o king_n have_v great_a need_n in_o his_o affair_n he_o may_v thus_o have_v become_v useless_a to_o he_o on_o the_o sudden_a to_o the_o great_a damage_n of_o his_o government_n three_o the_o prince_n himself_o may_v thus_o unwary_o become_v liable_a to_o excommunication_n by_o converse_v with_o the_o excommunicate_a so_o that_o this_o custom_n require_v notice_n be_v give_v to_o the_o prince_n first_o and_o with_o his_o leave_n the_o offender_n may_v be_v excommunicate_v nor_o ought_v we_o to_o suppose_v that_o any_o christian_a prince_n who_o see_v a_o good_a bishop_n only_o design_v reformation_n of_o some_o scandalous_a officer_n or_o servant_n of_o he_o will_v deny_v his_o leave_n for_o the_o bishop_n to_o censure_v he_o and_o if_o he_o do_v i_o dare_v venture_v to_o say_v may_v overcome_v right_o for_o i_o be_o not_o of_o mr._n selden'_v opinion_n that_o secular_a law_n and_o custom_n be_v always_o just_a but_o i_o believe_v pious_a bishop_n have_v often_o for_o peace_n sake_n submit_v to_o unjust_a law_n and_o custom_n both_o rather_o than_o disturb_v their_o country_n or_o raise_v sedition_n against_o their_o prince_n again_o he_o object_n divers_a sentence_n of_o excommunication_n denounce_v in_o parliament_n against_o the_o infringer_n of_o magna_fw-la charta_fw-la and_o other_o liberty_n of_o the_o church_n and_o people_n i_o reply_v mr._n selden_n grant_v this_o be_v not_o proper_o excommunicate_v but_o only_o a_o threaten_v of_o this_o sentence_n in_o general_n and_o a_o declaration_n that_o they_o all_o believe_v the_o person_n so_o offend_v deserve_v to_o be_v accurse_a and_o excommunicate_v by_o the_o bishop_n and_o since_o so_o many_o bishop_n be_v present_a in_o parliament_n the_o sentence_n be_v they_o proper_o and_o the_o rest_n only_o express_v their_o agreement_n to_o it_o and_o withal_o excommunication_n be_v by_o the_o consequent_n attend_n it_o even_o as_o to_o a_o man_n outward_a condition_n become_v one_o of_o the_o most_o grievous_a penalty_n of_o all_o other_o in_o this_o age_n and_o so_o it_o be_v no_o wonder_n if_o prince_n who_o have_v annex_v these_o consequence_n to_o it_o do_v oblige_v the_o clergy_n to_o pronounce_v it_o with_o general_a assent_n on_o solemn_a occasion_n to_o make_v their_o law_n the_o better_a to_o be_v observe_v though_o i_o be_o apt_a to_o question_v whether_o it_o be_v well_o do_v to_o use_v it_o to_o such_o secular_a purpose_n we_o have_v indeed_o one_o statute_n since_o the_o reformation_n object_v also_o by_o mr._n selden_n 173._o selden_n stat._n 5_o &_o 6_o edvard_n 6._o cap._n 4._o vide_fw-la seld._n ut_fw-la supr_fw-la pag._n 173._o which_o decree_v excommunication_n for_o strike_v in_o the_o church_n or_o church-yard_n but_o this_o be_v not_o only_o a_o law_n make_v by_o the_o bishop_n consent_n but_o also_o it_o relate_v to_o a_o matter_n of_o the_o church_n and_o be_v no_o more_o but_o a_o confirmation_n of_o divers_a ancient_a canon_n which_o they_o suppose_v will_v be_v better_o observe_v if_o the_o whole_a parliament_n do_v assent_v to_o they_o and_o pass_v they_o into_o a_o secular_a law_n as_o be_v often_o do_v by_o the_o primitive_a emperor_n in_o the_o civil_a law_n and_o by_o the_o french_a king_n in_o the_o capitular_o but_o neither_o they_o nor_o our_o parliament_n ever_o intend_v hereby_o to_o take_v the_o matter_n out_o of_o the_o clergy_n power_n or_o to_o assume_v this_o power_n into_o their_o own_o hand_n yea_o the_o statute_n cite_v express_o say_v the_o ordinary_a shall_v issue_v out_o the_o sentence_n again_o mr._n selden_n say_v the_o king_n of_o france_n spain_n and_o england_n etc._n etc._n do_v allow_v appeal_n from_o the_o bishop_n consistory_n in_o many_o case_n i_o reply_v that_o many_o case_n be_v try_v in_o that_o court_n by_o the_o pious_a favour_n of_o christian_a prince_n who_o true_o believe_v bishop_n fit_a to_o judge_v in_o cause_n concern_v testament_n legacy_n guardianship_n divorce_n etc._n etc._n now_o in_o these_o matter_n which_o be_v judge_v by_o bishop_n not_o by_o any_o express_a law_n of_o god_n but_o by_o favour_n of_o the_o prince_n he_o may_v see_v that_o bishop_n judge_v right_o and_o therefore_o the_o king_n do_v of_o old_a grant_n prohibition_n on_o great_a occasion_n and_o call_v some_o of_o these_o matter_n into_o his_o temporal_a court_n where_o ancient_o he_o sit_v himself_o which_o custom_n be_v confirm_v by_o time_n be_v practise_v to_o this_o day_n but_o this_o no_o way_n concern_v the_o bishop_n authority_n which_o christ_n give_v he_o and_o if_o the_o sentence_n be_v for_o heresy_n or_o any_o other_o scandalous_a offence_n for_o which_o of_o old_a excommunication_n be_v inflict_v or_o if_o it_o only_o tend_v to_o reformation_n of_o manner_n and_o to_o the_o salvation_n of_o the_o criminal_n soul_n no_o appeal_n lie_v so_o that_o our_o opinion_n of_o the_o divine_a right_n of_o excommunication_n be_v not_o disprove_v by_o these_o proceed_n but_o he_o argue_v further_a that_o the_o king_n of_o england_n have_v some_o time_n send_v out_o their_o writ_n to_o command_v bishop_n to_o revoke_v their_o excommunication_n of_o which_o he_o give_v some_o instance_n etc._n instance_n seld._n synedr_n lib._n i._o cap._n 10._o pag._n 201._o etc._n etc._n to_o this_o i_o reply_v that_o all_o the_o case_n he_o specify_v be_v notorious_a violation_n of_o that_o power_n which_o christ_n have_v entrust_v the_o bishop_n with_o tend_v to_o the_o hinder_v the_o king_n precept_n from_o be_v execute_v and_o to_o the_o oppression_n of_o his_o loyal_a 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