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A42426 A speech made by Alderman Garroway, at a common-hall on Tuesday the 17. of January upon occasion of a speech delivered there the Friday before, by Mr. Pym, at the reading of His Majesties answer to the late petition. Garraway, Henry, Sir, 1575-1646. 1642 (1642) Wing G280; ESTC R233456 9,429 15

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two Houses or by the Goodnesse of the King Have we those Priviledges with Forraign Princes by which many here have gotten such estates by the power of the Houses or by the Protection of the King Why should we then govern the City by the direction of both Houses I am not willing to speak slightly of any Persons gotten into Authority onely we may say there be some amongst us we did not thinke two yeers ago to have met here and yet we were wont to see an Alderman comming a dozen yeer off I cannot tell what you mean by Arbitrary power but I am sure we are governed by nothing we were used to be governed by I have been Lord Major my self in a pleasanter time then this and should have some share still in the Government before God I have no more Authority in the Citie then a Porter not so much as an Aldermanbury Porter If to be governed by People whose Authority we know not and by Rules which no body ever heard of or can know be a signe of Arbitrary Power we have as much of it as heart can wish To the Kings charge of our Contributing for the maintenance of the Army which had given Him Battell we were told that diverse practices were made against the Parliament before they made any preparation for their defence By practices I think they mean Feares and Jealousies for all the particulars mentioned by Him we know and are understood by all the Boyes in the street but we are sure there were ten thousand men raised and armed out of this Town and the neighbour Counties before the King had seven hundred To the danger the Kings Person was in at the thought whereof every honest heart trembles the Gentleman told us they were sorry for it I dare not tell you what I think their sorrow was But Masters if you knew how much your Estates and Being depends upon the life and safety of our good King you would no sooner apprehend Him in danger then you would runne to His rescue as you would flye from the Plague and Beggery But that reproach of maintaining the Kings Children here I confesse made my heart rise I hope it did so to many here Is our good King fallen so low that His Children must be kept for Him 't is worth our enquiry who brought Him to that condition We heare Him complain that all his Own Revenue is seized and taken from Him Is not His Exchequer Court of Wards Mint here His Customes too are worth somewhat and are His Children kept upon Alms How shall we and our Children prosper if this be not remedied They will by no means endure that His Majestie be obeyed in the apprehension of the Lord Major and the other three Gentlemen for it is the sense of both Houses that this demand is against the Priviledge of Parliament and most dishonourable to the Citie For the first I dare not speake my minde though I must confesse my self not able to answer the Kings reasons in many of His Declarations upon that point but for the second under the favour of both Houses whether it be dishonourable for the City whether it be fit to be done or no we are the best indeed we are the onely Judges I will take the liberty to speake freely my Conscience in this Case as a friend to Justice as a lover of these men and as a Servant to the Citie and as all these I protest to God if I were now Lord Major and the other three were my Father and my Brothers I would satisfie the King in this point Did His Majestie aske to have them put to death meerely upon His Accusation or have them sent bound hand and foot to Oxford where it might be in His power to proceed against them in an extraordinary way it might seeme unreasonable but to apprehend them to keep them in safe custody that His Majestie may proceed against them according to the known Laws under which they were born and bred where if guilty they must be left to the Justice of the law and His Majesties mercy if innocent will receive an honourable acquittall seems to me so just in the King to aske and so necessary for us to yeeld to that the denying it implies a doubt in us of the Innocence of those whom we will not submit to Justice Here is a way to finde out the Kings Evill Counsellors If these men do their part like men of good consciences submit to the tryall of the Law which is the onely Judge of Guilt and Innocence and are found cleer from that heavy charge His Majestie accuses them of how gloriously will these men live hereafter and the King cannot refuse to deliver those up who have wickedly conspired the destruction of honest men but if we shall onely cry out that the King is misinformed and dare not trust our selves upon a tryall we may preserve our safety but we shall loose our reputation Thus much for Justice for the Gentlemens sakes now This way you see a way to honour and safety too if there be Innocence but do you thinke after a moneths longer enduring the miseries which are now upon us men will not more importunately and impatiently enquire after the causes of their sufferings if they shall finde that the denyall to give up four men who it may be are not of any known merit too to be tryed by the Law being accused of High Treason and conspiring to take away the Kings Life incensed our gracious King against us and kept Him from being among us whereby our Trade decayes and such violences and outrages are every day committed I say can any four 〈…〉 will not 〈…〉 〈◊〉 and made desperate by their and the common sufferings 〈◊〉 these men in peeces We have been all young men and Apprentises let us remember the spirit was then amongst us would we have suffered all our hopes to have been blasted and destroyed by any four or fourteen men Let us not 〈◊〉 our selves there is the same courage still in the Citie which at some time will break out to the ruine of more then those men but I thank that worthy that told us that it is against the rules of Justice that any men should be imprisoned upon a generall charge when no particulars are proved against them How insensibly in other mens cases do we accuse our selves why how many of us within these six Moneths have been committed upon a gen●rall charge How many Persons of Honour and Reputation are now imprisoned in this Town when particulars are so far from being proved against them that they are not so much as suggested was over any Charge so generall as to be a Malignant or Cavaller yet you heare all such imprisonments are against the Rules of Justice my opinion is that for Justice sake for the Cities sake for their own sakes these four men should quietly submit themselves to the tryall of the Law if they refuse that they be
delivered up to the hands of Justice Mr. Pym told us there was no proof that my Lord Major and the other Persons named were countenancers of Brownists Anabaptists and other Sectaries where should this proof be made Do we not all know this to be true are they not all so much countenanced as there is no countenance left for any body else Did not my Lord Major first enter upon his Office with a speech against the Booke of Common-Prayer hath the Common-Prayer ever been read before him hath not Captain Venn said that his Wife could make Prayers worth three of any in that Book Oh Masters there have been times that he that should speake against the Book of Common Prayer in this Citie should not have been put to the patience of a Legall Triall we were wont to look upon it as the greatest Treasure and Jewell of our Religion and he that should have told us he wished well to our Religion and yet would take away the Booke of Common-Prayer would never have gotten credit I have been in all the parts of Christendom and have conversed with Christians in Turky why in all the Reformed Churches there is not any thing of more Reverence then the English Liturgy not our Royall Exchange or the name of Queen Elizabeth so famous In Geneva it self I have heard it extolled to the Skies I have been 3. Moneths together by Sea not a day without hearing it read twice The honest Mariners then despised all the world but the King and the Common-Prayer Book he that should have been suspected to wish ill to either of them would have made an ill Voyage And let me tell you they are shrewd Youths those Seamen if they once discern that the Person of the King is in danger or the true Protestant professed Religion they will shew themselves mad bodies before you are a ware of it I would not be a Brownist or an Anabaptist in their way for But we are told of an Army of Papists who will root out our Religion for my part I am sure I am not suspected for any affection to Papists yet I confesse at this time I have not the least feare of danger from them and the truth is this Bugbeare is grown lesse terrible to every body We know from the beginning of this Parliament the continuall discovery of Plotts by the Papists and what those discoveries have cost us and yet to this day not the least probable charge objected against them When the King was at York no discourse here but of the Papists being there in multitudes when 't is well known His Majestie took all possible care to prevent the resort of any Papists to the Court and I have been assured by very honest men that in a Moneth there was scarce the face of one Papist there When he first raised His Army did he not by Proclamation forbid any to come to Him But hark you Gentlemen where would you have these Papists be can they live in the Ayre or in the Water beyond-Sea you will not suffer them to passe if they stay at their Houses they are Plundred 't is a good Justification for Plundring that they are Papists Are they not the Kings Subjects and should they not flye to Him for Protection Is there any Law that sayes the Papists must not assist the King with Men Arms or Money when He is in distresse and when He conceives Himself to be in danger of His Life Let us look about us if this world hold not onely all the Papists but all the Gentlemen of England will finde it necessary to carry all they have to the King and venture it in that bottome But both Houses have declared that there have been no plundring by the direction of Parliament Here I thinke they would be willing to admit the King to be a part of the Parliament to save their honour otherwise if plundring signifies the comming with violence into ones house and taking away his goods against his consent sure there hath been much plundring even by the direction of the Houses but have they ever punished plundring of the worst sort if they have not directed it will a Declaration of both Houses repaire the fine Wane-scott and the goodly Leads of honest George Binyons house Let me tell you the time hath been the losse of such a Citizen would have been talked of in another way I wonder what kinde of Government is preparing for Us when they will not allow that the Imprisonment of our Person is the taking away our Liberty or the taking away the twentieth part of our Estates is the destruction of our property and did you marke what a notable reason was given us for this the same Law that doth enable them to raise Forces doth likewise enable them to require Contributions it doth indeed yet one might be without the other but I would these Gentlemen had chose another Auditory to have convinced with this Argument the Countrey people will be no more couzened by the Citie when they heare what kinde of Oratory prevailes over us we shall be shortly told when they have a minde to our houses that the same Law which gave them Authority to take away our Money gave them likewise Power to do the other too The King tells us if we shall hereafter contribute any thing for the maintenance of the Army which He sayes is in Rebellion against him He pardon's what 's past marke that He will deny us the benefit of His Protection with Forraign Princes which He will signify to His forraign Ministers what remedy have the Lords and Commons found for this now sufficient to do the businesse They declare That this is an excesse of rigour and injustice beyond example and therefore they hope His Majestie will be induced by better Counsell to forbear the execution A very soveraign Declaration but 't is ten to one if we do not obey His Majestie in the Injunction he hath laid upon us He will use this excesse of rigour I know not how little you that trade onely within the Kingdom may think your selves concerned in this but I say whoever understands the Trade abroad and the benefit of being a Subject to the King of England will not runne this hazard for let him be assured in the instant the King disclaimes him he is ruined and therefore you who have Estates abroad looke to it Gentlemen I have troubled you very long but in good faith the manner and the matter of the last dayes work hath layen so heavie upon my heart that I should have thought I had forfeited this Gown and this Chain if I had been silent and that I had betrayed the Liberty of that famous Citie which I am sworn to defend One word I had forgotten to mention the caution which was given us of such Messengers as His Majestie should send that we should observe them that they might be dealt with as Messengers of Sedition God forbid we should live to see any Messengers