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A22727 Remonstrances made by the Kings Maiesties ambassadour, vnto the French King and the queene his mother, Iune last past, 1615 Concerning the marriages with Spaine; as also certayne diabolicall opinions maintayned by Cardinall Perron, about the deposing and murthering of kings. Together with the French Kings letter to the Prince of Conde, dated the 26. of Iuly last, 1615. and the Prince his answere thereunto. Translated according to the French copie. England and Wales. Legation (France); Edmondes, Thomas, Sir, 1563?-1639.; Louis XIII, King of France, 1601-1643.; Condé, Henri II de Bourbon, prince de, 1588-1646. 1615 (1615) STC 9237; ESTC S100716 9,306 34

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and rights of the Pope doth not onely expose and lay open as a prey the life and States of Princes by the doctrine maintained in the said Oration but also doth vnworthily subiect the Crowne of his owne King to the tutelage and authoritie of the Sea of Rome and thirdly doth send forth without any respect diuers reproches and iniurious inuectiues against the Person and Gouernment of the King my Master First therefore his Maiestie complaines and takes in ill part that the said Cardinall in diuers places of this speech publikely maintaines that a King by the Law of God may fall from his Right and cease to be acknowledged as a King That a Pope or Councell hath authoritie particularly in cases of Heresy or Apostafy to depose Kings and absolue Subiects of their oath of Alleageance and that consequently their Subiects may enterprise against them Which were not only to put the State and Temporall dignity of Kings into the hands and disposing of the Pope but also disobedience into the hearts of their Subiects and a knife into the hands of Assassines to execute vpon their Sacred persons the decrees of a will transported either by error or malice vnto their ruine whereof within these fiue and twentie yeeres this Kingdome hath felt too too lamentable remarkeable effects Secondly the said Cardinall applying this execrable Maxime in particular vnto France maintaines that it hath alwaies been receiued and authorised here yea sometimes for crimes of Religion lesse weightie then Heresie or Apostafie And if any hold the contrary the Popes do but tolerate the same for the good of the Churches peace conditionally that they hold it as doubtfull and Problematicall and not affirme it contradictorie to the word of God by which meanes your Maiesties Life remaines continually exposed to the same danger and enterprises that your two Predecessors felt Thirdly his Maiestie findes himselfe greatly offended in particular by the language that the said Cardinall vseth of him and his actions chiefly that vnder pretence of gratifying his person he rankes him as much as in him lyeth in the number of Pagans commending him onely for his vertues Morall and Naturall without attributing vnto him any Christianitie at all wherin his Maiestie glories principally Secondly he accuseth him of malice and faction affirming that he hath enterprised to sow Schisme and deuision in this assembly of the Estates and in the States of this Kingdome endeuouring thereby to bring in the same Article and oth which himselfe imposeth on his own subiects and which is worst of all describes him in his Gouernement as if he were a bloudy Tyrant and as if no sort of torments could be deuised which he inflicteth not vpon his Catholike Subiects whom he presents sighing and as it were breathles vnder the yoke of persecution at the end of this discourse by way of Antithesis saith that God bee thanked the French are not vnder a King that maketh Martyrs Inferring thereby that the King of great Brittaine is so cruell and vnmercifull as he taketh pleasure in the effusion of the bloud of Innocents But his Maiestie being content to trample vnder his feete all these opprobries and iniuries which concerne but his own particular standeth not vpō any reparation with the Cardinall but onely esteemeth himselfe obliged and should thinke himselfe defectiue and wanting in that which God and nature hath made him to bee if he did not testifie vnto the full the sensible apprehension which he herein hath touching the honour safetie and dignitie of Kings in generall which the said Cardinall by this Maxime and pernicious speech of his doth abase and subiect to the disposing of another This is that which his Maiestie hath commanded me liuely and seriously to remonstrate vnto this State to the end that your Maiesties and my Lords of your Counsell opening your eyes to see and apprehend as is requisite the scandall danger and pernicious consequence of this doctrine aswell in generall to all Christendome as to the State of France in particular may speedily prouide a forcible remedy for the choaking of the seede hereof And more particularly his Maiestie out of the impression of that hearty and sincere amitie which was betweene him and the late King whose losse he daily deplores and whose memory hee honours with all respect in his heart hath charged me to shew and call to your Maiesties remembrance that during the life of the said King they contracted this amiable accord and brotherly agreement betweene them in such sort that when it should please God to take vnto him one of the two the Suruiuor should vndertake as Father and Protector of the childrē of the predeceased And for this cause his Maiestie desiring to acquit himselfe of this obligation and duty which he beareth to the remembrance of him whom he so faithfully loued during his life cannot but declare the liuely feeling and commiseration which hee hath of the miserable and perillous estate of your Maiestie his most deare Brother which is continually in danger if the doctrine of the Cardinall be receiued allowed in France And therefore his Maiestie for the discharage of his conscience and dutie of his quality desires and requires this state openly to manifest to the view and knowledge of all the world by publike and rigorous suppression of the oration of the said Cardinall and by a solemne decree touching the same their disauowing and condemning of this new and accursed doctrine to the end that by this declaratiō the licentious Spirits of your subiects may the better bee kept in the duty of their fidelitie and obedience A Letter from the French KING to the Prince of CONDE COVSIN I haue oftentimes giuen you to vnderstand the desire which I had that you should accompany me in my voyage which I intend to make into Guyenne for the accomplishing of my Marriage and haue inuited you to prepare ●our selfe for the same and to repaire vnto me for that purpose I haue also made knowne vnto you my good meaning touching some points whereof you desired before your returne to be informed aswell concerning the affaires generall as others hauing to that effect sent diuers times vnto you Mons de Villeroy who is with you at this present by whom also you might haue beene certified and assured of my affection and good will as also of the Queenes my Mother towards you Notwithstanding hitherto I cannot know your intent in this businesse hauing yet had nothing but delayes on your part In the meane time being forced to take my iourny I send Mons de Pont Chartrain my Counsellour Secretarie of State in those parts with the said Mons de Villeroy ●o●signifie vnto you that my resolution is to begin my said voyage vpon Saterday the first of the next Moneth without any further delay and to desire you againe in my behalfe to come and accompany me and there to take the place which is due to your qualitie and birth or
was taken by him for the ordering of the affaires of Wesell those points and puntillioes whereon so long time the Spaniards haue dwelt to prolong this affaire might haue beene long agoe cut off but now on the cōtrary he hath cause to grieue that hauing as much labored to sollicite the interuention of this State in this affaire as to draw the Spaniard to some reason notwithstanding all this importunitie he could neuer procure any other answere from hence neither touching this point or the other affaires but in generall termes witnesse that weake satisfactorie answere presented vnto his Maiestie by Mons de Buisseaux as also all the other answers to the sollicitations of the Princes of Germany Moreouer these Princes of the Vnion knowing that Spaine is the Fauourer and Protector of their Enemies will receiue no lesse damage and displeasure by the accomplishing of these mariages thus prosecuted without any necessity and so out of season that they will not only weaken them by the losse of France but also strengthen their Enemies by the aduantage of this Cōiunction And who can secure them from feare if the troubles of Sauoy can be appeased that the Army of Spaine which now threatneth Italic doth not come expresly by the forbearance of this State to fall vpon them and in particular the Elector of Brandenbourg who hath so long timerelyed vpon France cannot hereafter expect any fauour from hence for the deciding of his controuersie seeing that the King of Spaine hath taken the Duke of Newenbourg his Competitor into his protection As for the Duke of Sauoy who is descended from this Crowne and whose preseruation doth much concerne it as well for the neerenesse as for the situation of his Countrie if before the accomplishing of these marriages hee hath found France so violent and discourteous towards him as well by the harsh and peremptorie messages which haue been sent him from hence as by the rigorous inhibitions published in disfauour of him declaring all such as goe to aide or assist him offenders of his Maiestie and so vsing them by confiscation and razing of their houses a thing neuer heard of nor practized especially by France towards a Prince and Friend so vexed and oppressed by the Armes of one stronger then himselfe how may he hope after the consummation of the said marriages that this State will remaine an impartiall Arbitrator betwixt Spaine and him or that these Ministers which shall be imploied in his busines will deale faithfully and sincerely for the good of his affaires his Maiestie protesting for his owne part that his desire hath and euer shall be firmely to vnite himselfe with your Maiesties to incite the said Duke vnto peace howbeit he iudgeth it fit to haue an equall care lest by such disfauour he might be inforced to accept of conditions vnsafe and preiudiciall And since that the greatest Honour of France during the wise gouernement of the late King was the authority and trust which it had prudently and profitably to prouide as it hath done vpon diuers great and important occasions for the accommodating of differences betweene forraine Princes and States to the conseruation of the publique peace of Christendome and seeing that it is already apparent that the shaddow of these double alliances doth minister cause of feare to your ancient friēds that together with them the interests also of Spaine will be espoused it is most certaine that the precipitation of these marriages wil much augment this feare in them causing France to lose that authority and trust which their Councels haue had alwayes heretofore on their part turning their confidence into distrust and their loue into discontent If therefore notwithstanding all these weighty and vrgent considerations which concerne so neerly the person of your Maiestie and the Weale publique aswell of your owne State as of your Neighbors and Allies you shall hastily proceede to the cōsummation of this voyage what may they imagine who in this State and also among your Neighbours doe clearely perceiue weigh and apprehend these pregnant considerations but that thereby there is some hidden designe tending to their preiudice Lastly the King my Master shall haue iust cause of regret in his owne particular if hauing liued so many yeeres in loue and correspondency so firme with this Crowne insomuch that these two States hauing had almost one the selfe same to will and not to will the same Friends and Enemies haue alwayes ioyned their Counsels and guided their actions in all affaires and occurrances tending to the Weale publique after one and the same manner Now France diuerting it selfe from him by the precipitation of these Marriages with Spaine shall leaue vnto him alone the burthen and charge of all such affaires and differences as yet remaine in Christendome vndecided howsoeuer notwithstanding his Maiestie is not ignorant of the aduantage which elsewhere is offered vnto him by this alienation if he were a Prince ambitious to winne vnto him selfe alone the good will and friendship of all those ancient Allies which by this action seeme abandoned if he alone should not enterprise the managing of their affaires as hee will neuer bee wanting either by assistance or counsell to effect the same when necessity shall require But being not able on his part so sleightly to forget renounce the ancient correspondence Coniunction which hee hath hitherto maintayned with this Crowne hee is willing to vse all care and meanes for the preseruation of it in its owne estate before hee change his course or addresse himselfe to new counsels if he be not thereunto constrayned by this sudden alteration And this is it that his Maiesty hath charged me thus freely to represent these foresaid considerations vnto your Maiesty beseeching you to accept and embrace this his aduice euen as he presents it vnto you that is to say with his true and ancient affection for the good of your Person and State and the zeale he beareth vnto the weale publike of Christendome that you would be pleased so to dispose of your resolutions hereupon in this most weighty occasion that his Maiesty may enioy the contentment and you the fruit which he earnestly desireth A Declaration made by his Maiesties Ambassadour of Great Brittaine vnto the French King and the Queene his Mother concerning an Oration made by the Cardinall of Perron in the late generall Assembly of the Estates at Paris SIr the King my Master hauing seene a certaine Oration made in the Assembly of your States Generall held lately in this City and since published by Mons the Cardinall of Perron wherof he himselfe hath sent a Copie vnto his Maiestie cannot sufficiently wonder at the licentiousnesse and deprauation of this age animated with such audacity by the speeches and writings of a person of that qualitie who to ouerthrow a wholesome proposition made in the third Chamber of the said States for preseruation of the life and authoritie of Kings vnder pretence of maintaining the interest