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A35564 To J.S., the author of Sure-footing, his letter, lately published, The answer of Mer. Casaubon, D.D., concerning the new way of infallibility lately devised to uphold the Roman cause, the Holy Scriptures, antient fathers and councills laid aside Casaubon, Meric, 1599-1671. 1665 (1665) Wing C811; ESTC R3910 21,053 27

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to make good but Whether you have positively declared your self this or this to be your opinion and Whether that be not the principal end and scope of your Discourse To maintain such an opinion If therefore you take the advantage of any words casually misplaced or of pages mis-quoted to criminate this is not to criminate properly but to cavil Give me leave therefore to remind you for I profess I did partly rely upon him and upon those grounds I have mentioned I thought I had reason so to do how he Dr. Hammond upon accurate examination of what you had written and some others had written doth represent your opinion and it was some argument to me that you did not think your self wronged by him because I never heard of any answer that you had made However it shall be upon this condition that if I cannot make good my charge to the full from what you have written and I have read since I will make no advantage at all of his words First then the main business as I conceive what you mean by Orall tradition Orall Tradition is that faith Mr. White they are Doctor Hammonds words which the mothers flatter into their children and is the most sweet and connatural way that can be imagined to beget a firm and undoubted assent and this faith Doctor Hammond from you both if not exclusively yet comparatively so as to carry it clearly from Scripture and Fathers which are but dead letters and mute writing in comparison of this which alone he looks on as Gods living word This then is your opinion That all the assurance we have of our Faith and the onely thing Christianity stands upon is by this teaching of flattering mothers or in your words of fathers and mothers of families Dr. Hammond faith if not exclusively But whatever you do in Schism Dispatcht where nevertheless you plainly enough exclude Scripture and Fathers as Dr. Hammond doth else where tell you it is apparent that in your Sure footing you do very positively exclude both Scripture and Fathers as when you say There is no arguing against Tradition out of Scripture and that none canin reason oppose the authority of Fathers and Councils against Tradition Insomuch that you will not allow Christs promise to his Church which both Protestants and Papists if true Christians have so much relied on and found so much comfort in to bear any part in the Rule of Faith that is what else you mean by Rule of Faith I cannot tell to be trusted to as certain and infallible without your Tradition Nor allow us to say that Tradition is certain because Christ hath promised it no further than can be made good or demonstrated by principles of nature and such Mediums as you call intrinsecal Of the Scriptures particularly Dr. Hammond doth give us this account that never any Romanist Jew Heathen or Mahumetan hath attempted the like against them to bring their credit down as Rushworth hath done in his Dialogues to establish this Oral Tradition which you maintain And if the same though truly I do not see what can be done more by any be not done or attempted by you yet you are answerable for what is done by Rushworth in those Dialogues because you refer to him without any exception and that both are engaged in one cause which doth oblige you if not to say yet to think no less Another thing which doth much add to my wondring and indignation is the newness of your way the consequences whereof is that if this way have not been known to former ages till this late discovery it must of necessity follow and your Corollaries acknowledg it that Christ hath had no Church all this while no people or nation upon Earth that could be called faithfull You indeed for the most part cunningly hide as much as you can the monstrousness of your Doctrine under the generall word of Tradition which you know both Papists and Protestants under several notions or in the same notion with some limitations do own and acknowledge though you still understand but one thing by that word that is the teaching of flattering mothers in every age Of mothers I say and upon them it seems you most rely because Dr. Hammond who hath read all your books doth most keep to those terms but of Fathers and Mothers of Families if you will as you expresse it So you tell us in a place this way of Tradition is the way every Catholick in the whole Church none excepted holds and follows your way therefore not a new way as if a man would prove that a dogg is a man because both dog and man are Animals All Romanists hold Tradition therefore they hold the Tradition of Fathers and Mothers that and none but that as the onely foundation of their faith for so it must be understood or else you say nothing Now by Mr. Whites account as I find in Dr. Hammond the first invention or beginning of this was in a sleight familiar conference afterwards exalted to no less then Divine Revelation or Inspiration you shall know what I mean by and by which made Dr. Hammond say that this Discovery of Mr. Whites as it is the greatest blessing the richest jewel so it is the greatest riddle and mystery in the world And again to propose it to his Readers consideration Whether it be credible that so great a Jewel as this pretends to be should be withheld from the Christian world for above 1600 years and at last brought forth not onely by one man that pretends not to inspiration then he did not it seems but also in a sleight familiar conference between two Kinsmen So that if Dr. Hammond who made it his study and had read all your Books as was said before did not ignorantly mistake or wilfully falsifie as you charge me what can be more horrid and monstious And then again by your own Corollaries That body of men who adhere to Tradition Oral still that is the teaching of Fathers and Mothers of Families can evidence clearly and plainly who are truly faithfull who not who are of the Church who not pag 97 98. And again No company of men hang together like a body of a Christian Church or Common-wealth but that which adheres to Tradition p. 99. By these Corollaries I say it is clear and must of necessity follow that till this way of Tradition was hatcht whether new or old Christ had no Church no faithfull People in the World As the Consequence of your Doctrine is horrible so the Doctrine it self both at first hearing and the more a man looks into it if he have the patience with reason and judgment no less prodigious and incredible The Doctrine of Faith on which Gods Catholick Church is founded true Christianity on which depends Eternity of bliss or misery to be preserved in every Age sound and entire and so conveighed from Age to Age by Fathers and Mothers of Families This the way and the