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A67437 The history & vindication of the loyal formulary, or Irish remonstrance ... received by His Majesty anno 1661 ... in several treatises : with a true account and full discussion of the delusory Irish remonstrance and other papers framed and insisted on by the National Congregation at Dublin, anno 1666, and presented to ... the Duke of Ormond, but rejected by His Grace : to which are added three appendixes, whereof the last contains the Marquess of Ormond ... letter of the second of December, 1650 : in answer to both the declaration and excommunication of the bishops, &c. at Jamestown / the author, Father Peter Walsh ... Walsh, Peter, 1618?-1688.; Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688. Articles of peace.; Rothe, David, 1573-1650. Queries concerning the lawfulnesse of the present cessation. 1673 (1673) Wing W634; ESTC R13539 1,444,938 1,122

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conclude_v therefore_o that_o those_o be_v exempt_v or_o shall_v be_v in_o such_o a_o case_n and_o by_o the_o emperor_n themselves_o or_o their_o law_n exempt_v from_o their_o own_o supreme_a civil_a coercive_a power_n in_o criminal_a cause_n or_o indeed_o in_o any_o whatsoever_o or_o must_v it_o follow_v that_o because_o by_o the_o law_n of_o england_n a_o lord_n for_o example_n 〈◊〉_d be_v condemn_v or_o try_v in_o a_o criminal_a cause_n but_o by_o his_o peer_n that_o therefore_o in_o england_n a_o lord_n be_v exempt_a from_o the_o supreme_a civil_a coercive_a power_n of_o the_o king_n himself_o or_o that_o it_o be_v not_o by_o a_o power_n derive_v from_o the_o king_n th●●_n peer_n 〈…〉_o condemn_v or_o free_v another_o peer_n or_o even_o that_o by_o the_o supreme_a power_n of_o the_o king_n which_o former_o establish_v such_o a_o law_n of_o privilege_n for_o peer_n the_o same_o law_n may_v not_o be_v just_o again_o or_o upon_o just_a ground_n repeal_v and_o a_o contrary_a law_n make_v 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not_o to_o summon_v clerk_n to_o their_o tribunal_n and_o judge_v their_o cause_n whensoever_o such_o cause_n be_v mere_o temporal_a and_o not_o proper_o or_o strict_o spiritual_a or_o of_o a_o pure_o spiritual_a nature_n and_o i_o affirm_v also_o that_o before_o justinians_n empire_n which_o be_v from_o the_o year_n of_o christ_n 527._o wherein_o it_o be_v begin_v to_o the_o year_n 565._o wherein_n he_o die_v no_o council_n nor_o canon_n of_o council_n do_v ever_o as_o much_o as_o declare_v or_o even_o as_o much_o as_o only_o suppose_v that_o clerk_n be_v by_o any_o other_o authority_n or_o by_o that_o i_o mean_v of_o the_o very_a emperor_n themselves_o exempt_v general_o from_o lay_v tribunal_n not_o even_o i_o mean_v still_o from_o those_o of_o inferior_a judge_n and_o o_o god_n of_o truth_n how_o can_v any_o know_v divine_a any_o conscientious_a historian_n canonist_n or_o civilian_n be_v so_o preoccupated_a as_o not_o to_o acknowledge_v or_o so_o blind_a as_o not_o to_o see_v it_o 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