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A45915 An Enquiry whether oral tradition or the sacred writings be the safest conservatory and conveyance of divine truths, down from their original delivery, through all succeeding ages in two parts. 1685 (1685) Wing I222A; ESTC R32365 93,637 258

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christi_fw-la tum_fw-la perfectionem_fw-la tum_fw-la integritatem_fw-la pertinens_fw-la idem_fw-la ibid._n pag._n 229._o and_o may_v be_v untrue_a without_o any_o prejudice_n to_o what_o i_o have_v discourse_v in_o this_o section_n sect_n iii_o obj._n 3_o whereas_o i_o have_v say_v that_o the_o safe_a descent_n of_o divine_a truth_n be_v so_o great_o provide_v for_o because_o they_o be_v treasure_v up_o in_o the_o holy_a write_n it_o may_v be_v perhaps_o reply_v that_o oral_a tradition_n be_v not_o destitute_a of_o this_o 〈◊〉_d advantage_n also_o for_o one_o mean_n which_o bellarmine_n allege_v of_o the_o preservation_n of_o oral_a tradition_n be_v scriptura_fw-la write_v they_o in_o the_o ancient_a record_n of_o the_o church_n therefore_o he_o say_v that_o 12._o that_o de_fw-fr verbo_fw-la dei_fw-la non_fw-la scripto_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 12._o a_o doctrine_n be_v call_v unwritten_a 2._o unwritten_a id●m_fw-la ibid_fw-la ch._n 2._o not_o because_o it_o be_v not_o where_o write_v 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