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say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d come_v out_o of_o she_o my_o people_n apoc._n 18.4_o thesis_n vii_o no_o unjust_a excommunication_n out_o of_o a_o true_a church_n can_v prejudice_n the_o salvation_n of_o the_o excommunicate_a sect_n 8._o your_o romance_n gloss_n authorize_v by_o pope_n etc._n gregory_n the_o xiii_o will_v speak_v as_o much_o as_o need_v be_v say_v to_o wit_n coelis_fw-la the_o key_n of_o the_o church_n err_v in_o her_o bind_n and_o lose_v the_o party_n so_o bind_v be_v not_o then_o bind_v with_o god_n for_o it_o happen_v many_o time_n that_o he_o who_o be_v excommunicate_v out_o of_o the_o church_n militant_a be_v notwithstandeng_v in_o the_o church_n triumphant_a so_o your_o own_o gloss_n according_a as_o it_o have_v be_v observe_v by_o you_o in_o the_o blindman_n cure_v by_o christ_n and_o profess_v the_o power_n of_o christ_n who_o therefore_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cast_v out_o of_o their_o synagogue_n joh._n 9.34_o that_o 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