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A70515 Of the incurable scepticism of the Church of Rome; De insanabili romanae Ecclesiae scepticismo. English La Placette, Jean, 1629-1718.; Tenison, Thomas, 1636-1715. 1688 (1688) Wing L429; Wing T705; ESTC R13815 157,482 172

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ecclesià_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la errare_fw-la quia_fw-la intelligitur_fw-la de_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la universali_fw-la sed_fw-la concilium_fw-la repraesentatiuè_fw-la dicitur_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la in_o concilio_n enim_fw-la verè_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la universalis_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la jacob._n de_fw-fr council_n lib._n 6._o pag._n 239._o assert_v that_o when_o pope_n and_o council_n disagree_v in_o define_v that_o judgement_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v which_o be_v consonant_n to_o the_o definition_n of_o precedent_a council_n if_o none_o of_o which_o have_v pass_v sentence_n in_o this_o matter_n then_o the_o council_n definition_n shall_v not_o be_v receive_v if_o the_o pope_n be_v found_v upon_o better_a reason_n and_o authority_n for_o that_o a_o council_n can_v err_v as_o appear_v by_o that_o of_o ariminum_n the_o second_o of_o ephesus_n that_o of_o africa_n under_o cyprian_a and_o many_o other_o that_o the_o infallibility_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n prove_v not_o the_o same_o to_o be_v in_o a_o council_n since_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v not_o true_o in_o a_o council_n that_o in_o the_o case_n of_o contrary_a definition_n by_o the_o pope_n and_o a_o council_n it_o be_v not_o yet_o define_v what_o be_v to_o be_v do_v or_o observe_v that_o his_o opinion_n however_o be_v that_o he_o which_o shall_v hold_v to_o and_o observe_v either_o part_n shall_v not_o therefore_o incur_v the_o danger_n of_o damnation_n although_o he_o die_v in_o the_o observation_n of_o it_o all_o these_o manifest_o teach_v that_o both_o a_o pope_n and_o council_n to_o who_o alone_o active_a infallibility_n be_v attribute_v may_v err_v
nor_o be_v it_o enough_o to_o say_v that_o herein_o they_o deliver_v their_o judgement_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o council_n disagree_v one_o from_o another_o and_o not_o conjunct_o define_v this_o indeed_o may_v seem_v to_o be_v say_v with_o some_o colour_n of_o truth_n in_o jacobatius_n but_o as_o for_o occam_n and_o alliacensis_fw-la it_o do_v by_o no_o mean_n fit_v they_o nor_o yet_o do_v it_o in_o the_o least_o enervate_a the_o testimony_n of_o the_o rest_n since_o whensoever_o they_o deny_v infallibility_n to_o pope_n or_o council_n they_o do_v not_o thereto_o oppose_v the_o consent_n of_o both_o but_o either_o the_o symbolical_a and_o successive_a church_n as_o waldensis_n or_o the_o universal_a as_o all_o the_o rest_n beside_o they_o deny_v infallibility_n to_o belong_v to_o the_o representative_a church_n and_o to_o be_v the_o property_n of_o the_o universal_a whereas_o every_o one_o know_v and_o acknowledge_v that_o only_a the_o representative_a church_n be_v in_o a_o council_n 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determine_v it_o to_o be_v the_o congregation_n of_o the_o faithful_a which_o can_v fail_v christ_n have_v pray_v for_o it_o and_o nicolas_n lyra_n 16.18_o lyra_n a_o verâ_fw-la se_fw-la fide_fw-la subvertendo_fw-la exit_fw-la quo_fw-la patet_fw-la quòd_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la non_fw-la consistit_fw-la in_o hominibus_fw-la ratione_fw-la potestatis_fw-la vel_fw-la dignitatis_fw-la ecclesiasticae_fw-la vel_fw-la saecularis_fw-la quia_fw-la multi_fw-la principes_fw-la &_o summi_fw-la pontifices_fw-la etc._n etc._n inventi_fw-la sunt_fw-la apostatâsse_fw-la a_o fide_fw-la propter_fw-la quod_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la consistit_fw-la in_o illis_fw-la personis_fw-la in_fw-la quibus_fw-la est_fw-la notitia_fw-la vera_fw-la &_o confessio_fw-la fidei_fw-la &_o veritatis_fw-la lyra_n in_o matth._n 16.18_o to_o those_o word_n the_o gate_n of_o hell_n shall_v not_o prevail_v against_o it_o affix_v this_o gloss_n that_o be_v to_o subvert_v it_o from_o the_o true_a faith_n to_o which_o he_o subjoin_v 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be_v the_o common_a opinion_n in_o his_o time_n the_o same_o write_v aeneas_n silvius_n in_o his_o history_n of_o the_o council_n of_o basil_n banne_n and_o turrecremata_fw-la 6._o turrecremata_fw-la terrec_n de_fw-fr eccles_n lib._n 3._o cap_n 6._o attribute_v this_o opinion_n to_o alexander_n alensis_n hagutius_n and_o durandus_fw-la asimatensis_n the_o latter_a ascribe_v it_o also_o to_o the_o whole_a multitude_n of_o preacher_n and_o produce_v out_o of_o alensis_n vera_fw-la alensis_n opinio_fw-la que_fw-la dicit_fw-la quid_fw-la in_o s●lâ_fw-la vin_fw-fr ine_z stetit_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la in_o q●●d_n s●la_fw-la side_n mansit_fw-la in_o passione_n videtur_fw-la nobis_fw-la vera_fw-la this_o sentence_n that_o opinion_n which_o say_v the_o church_n consist_v in_o the_o virgin_n alone_o in_o who_o alone_o romain_v true_a faith_n at_o the_o passion_n seem_v true_a to_o we_o which_o turrecremata_fw-la also_o himself_o defend_v in_o many_o place_n particular_o summ._n the_o eccles_n 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one_o province_n provide_v the_o summons_n be_v direct_v to_o all_o the_o province_n as_o be_v interpretative_o invest_v with_o the_o authority_n of_o all_o the_o absent_a bishop_n which_o yet_o be_v not_o allow_v by_o our_o adversary_n and_o bellarmine_n 17._o bellarmine_n ut_fw-la saltem_fw-la ex_fw-la majori_fw-la parte_fw-la christianarum_fw-la provinciarum_fw-la aliqui_fw-la adveniant_fw-la bell._n the_o council_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 17._o himself_o require_v as_o the_o four_o condition_n of_o a_o general_n council_n that_o some_o bishop_n come_v from_o at_o least_o the_o great_a part_n of_o the_o province_n of_o christendom_n let_v the_o reader_n now_o judge_n how_o that_o can_v stand_v which_o richerius_n 21._o richerius_n maximè_fw-la propriè_fw-la &_o perfectissimè_fw-la rich._n apol._n axiom_n 21._o so_o positive_o affirm_v that_o a_o ecumenical_a council_n represent_v the_o whole_a church_n most_o proper_o and_o perfect_o on_o the_o contrary_a what_o i_o have_v already_o offer_v prove_v that_o the_o church_n be_v not_o at_o all_o much_o less_o most_o perfect_o represent_v thereby_o chap._n xiii_o that_o although_o there_o be_v ecumenical_a council_n it_o will_v be_v always_o uncertain_a which_o they_o be_v that_o there_o be_v no_o true_o ecumenical_a council_n i_o have_v prove_v in_o the_o precedent_a chapter_n but_o grant_v there_o be_v we_o shall_v gain_v but_o little_a unless_o we_o undoubted_o know_v which_o they_o be_v that_o deserve_v that_o name_n for_o the_o papist_n will_v not_o have_v their_o faith_n rely_v upon_o a_o council_n indefinite_o but_o upon_o such_o or_o such_o a_o council_n as_o for_o example_n upon_o that_o of_o constance_n or_o trent_n but_o their_o faith_n can_v rely_v on_o these_o unless_o they_o be_v certain_a they_o be_v ecumenical_a which_o that_o they_o can_v never_o be_v i_o shall_v prove_v in_o this_o chapter_n i_o may_v perhaps_o supersede_n this_o labour_n as_o be_v already_o perform_v by_o learned_a man_n even_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n launoy_n ames_n launoy_n laun._n epist_n part_n 8._o ad_fw-la ames_n and_o the_o author_n 2._o author_n de_fw-fr lib._n etc._n etc._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 2._o of_o the_o treatise_n of_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o gallican_n church_n although_o with_o a_o different_a intention_n for_o the_o first_o seem_v to_o have_v undertake_v it_o only_o for_o the_o love_n of_o truth_n the_o second_o that_o he_o may_v show_v the_o necessity_n of_o depend_v whole_o and_o absolute_o upon_o the_o pope_n but_o because_o both_o of_o they_o have_v omit_v many_o thing_n it_o will_v not_o be_v perhaps_o unuseful_a to_o add_v i_o to_o their_o observation_n first_o therefore_o the_o difficulty_n of_o know_v ecumenical_a council_n appear_v from_o the_o discord_n of_o author_n in_o number_v they_o bellarmine_n reckon_v 32_o which_o distribute_v into_o 4_o class_n he_o make_v 18_o of_o they_o to_o have_v be_v approve_v 7_o condemn_a 6_o partly_o approve_v and_o partly_o condemn_v and_o 1_o the_o pisan_a neither_o manifest_o approve_v nor_o manifest_o condemn_v bosius_n 8._o bosius_n bos_n de_fw-fr signis_fw-la eccl._n lib._n 5._o cap._n 8._o number_n 18_o express_o deny_v the_o rest_n to_o have_v be_v general_n bannes_n thom._n bannes_n ban._n catal._n council_n praemisso_fw-la tom._n 3._o in_o thom._n 15_o or_o at_o most_o 17._o but_o all_o omit_v that_o of_o sienna_n although_o acknowledge_v to_o have_v be_v general_n by_o the_o council_n of_o basil_n 1436._o basil_n council_n basil_n in_o quâdam_fw-la resp_n datâ_fw-la 3._o id._n maii_n 1436._o again_o of_o those_o number_v by_o bellarmin_n some_o be_v by_o other_o writer_n expunge_v out_o of_o the_o list_n let_v we_o view_v they_o in_o order_n after_o the_o 1._o nicene_n council_n of_o who_o universality_n none_o doubt_v come_v that_o of_o sardica_n which_o be_v think_v to_o be_v general_n by_o bellarmin_n baronius_n perron_n lupus_n natalis_n alex._n maimbourg_n deny_v by_o the_o african_n photius_n and_o auxilius_n sardic_n auxilius_n apud_fw-la lupum_fw-la diss_n de_fw-fr council_n sardic_n among_o the_o ancient_n by_o richerius_n 3._o richerius_n rich._n the_o council_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 3._o and_o peter_n de_fw-fr marca_n 3._o marca_n marca_n de_fw-fr concord_n lib._n 7._o cap._n 3._o among_o the_o modern_n the_o first_o constantinopolitan_a council_n natalis_n 236._o natalis_n orientalis_n duntaxat_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la concilium_fw-la istud_fw-la fuit_fw-la nec_fw-la oecumenicum_fw-la nisi_fw-la ex_fw-la post_fw-la facto_fw-la quatenus_fw-la etc._n etc._n nat._n nat._n 4._o part_n 1._o p._n 236._o affirm_v to_o have_v be_v only_o a_o synod_n of_o the_o eastern_a church_n and_o ecumenical_a only_a ex_fw-la post_fw-la facto_fw-la inasmuch_o as_o the_o western_a church_n in_o the_o roman_a synod_n under_o pope_n damasus_n approve_v it_o yet_o in_o the_o year_n after_o the_o council_n the_o eastern_a bishop_n meet_v at_o constantinople_n and_o write_v to_o the_o roman_a synod_n call_v their_o former_a council_n ecumenical_a which_o valesius_fw-la 3._o valesius_fw-la val._n
be_v not_o want_v to_o any_o one_o council_n either_o ancient_a or_o modern_a or_o that_o certain_a intelligence_n be_v receive_v in_o every_o province_n of_o the_o indiction_n of_o it_o second_o ibid._n second_o ut_fw-la ex_fw-la episcopis_fw-la nullus_fw-la excludatur_fw-la undecunque_fw-la veniat_fw-la modo_fw-la constet_fw-la eum_fw-la esse_fw-la episcopum_fw-la &_o non_fw-la excommunicatum_fw-la id._n ibid._n that_o no_o bishop_n be_v exclude_v whencesoever_o he_o come_v provide_v he_o be_v know_v to_o be_v so_o and_o be_v not_o excommunicate_v that_o this_o again_o be_v always_o observe_v we_o can_v be_v assure_v for_o not_o only_o those_o be_v to_o be_v esteem_v exclude_v who_o be_v open_o reject_v but_o those_o also_o who_o privy_o by_o threat_n promise_n or_o any_o other_o way_n be_v force_v to_o depart_v as_o paulus_n vergerius_n bishop_n of_o justinople_n by_o public_a write_n complain_v he_o be_v from_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n the_o three_o ibid._n three_o ut_fw-la adsint_fw-la omnes_fw-la patriarchae_fw-la vel_fw-la per_fw-la se_fw-la vel_fw-la per_fw-la legatos_fw-la id._n ibid._n condition_n be_v that_o all_o the_o patriarch_n be_v present_a either_o by_o themselves_o or_o by_o their_o legate_n but_o to_o this_o bellarmin_n add_v that_o it_o be_v not_o very_o necessary_a because_o the_o council_n of_o ephesus_n without_o the_o patriarch_n of_o antioch_n condemn_v nestorius_n and_o the_o synod_n of_o chalcedon_n conclude_v almost_o all_o thing_n without_o he_o of_o alexandria_n and_o at_o this_o time_n say_v he_o ibid._n he_o non_fw-la sunt_fw-la necessarii_fw-la quia_fw-la haeretici_fw-la vel_fw-la certè_fw-la schismatici_fw-la id._n ibid._n these_o patriarch_n be_v not_o necessary_a because_o heretical_a or_o at_o least_o schismatical_a but_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o because_o one_o patriarch_n may_v be_v absent_a therefore_o the_o rest_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v present_a beside_o bellarmin_n herein_o contradict_v himself_o for_o he_o demonstrate_v the_o necessity_n of_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o patriarch_n by_o this_o argument_n among_o other_o because_o the_o ii_o nicene_n council_n prove_v that_o the_o council_n of_o constantinople_n against_o image_n be_v not_o ecumenical_a from_o the_o absence_n of_o the_o patriarch_n if_o this_o argument_n hold_v the_o presence_n at_o least_o of_o some_o patriarch_n will_v be_v necessary_a and_o whereas_o he_o deny_v the_o presence_n of_o the_o patriarch_n to_o be_v now_o necessary_a because_o heretical_a or_o schismatical_a this_o again_o create_v new_a perplexity_n for_o they_o deny_v themselves_o to_o be_v so_o and_o it_o be_v at_o lest_o very_o uncertain_a whether_o they_o be_v so_o so_o that_o this_o thing_n must_v be_v first_o search_v out_o and_o determine_v before_o a_o firm_a assent_n can_v be_v give_v to_o the_o decree_n of_o a_o council_n want_v their_o presence_n see_v new_a difficulty_n new_a labyrinth_n last_o with_o canus_n duvall_n and_o other_o he_o require_v that_o if_o not_o all_o bishop_n be_v present_a in_o the_o council_n as_o they_o can_v all_o be_v at_o least_o some_o out_o of_o all_o the_o great_a province_n meet_v there_o if_o so_o then_o must_v be_v wipe_v out_o of_o the_o catalogue_n of_o general_n council_n the_o ii_o and_o v._o in_o which_o no_o western_a some_o of_o lateran_n and_o those_o of_o vien_fw-it constance_n and_o trent_n in_o which_o no_o eastern_a bishop_n be_v present_a duvall_n pont._n duvall_n duvall_n anteloq_fw-la ad_fw-la lib._n de_fw-fr potest_fw-la pont._n oppose_v this_o reason_n to_o the_o council_n of_o basil_n which_o may_v with_o equal_a reason_n be_v return_v upon_o all_o the_o rest_n beside_o when_o neither_o bellarmine_n nor_o any_o other_o dare_v determine_v how_o many_o bishop_n out_o of_o each_o province_n must_v necessary_o be_v present_a or_o how_o many_o province_n may_v safe_o be_v want_v in_o the_o council_n the_o whole_a matter_n can_v but_o remain_v uncertain_a that_o also_o deserve_v to_o be_v observe_v which_o bellarmine_n admonish_v that_o it_o be_v always_o think_v sufficient_a that_o when_o a_o general_a council_n be_v hold_v in_o the_o east_n a_o few_o suppose_v one_o or_o two_o western_a bishop_n be_v present_a or_o as_o few_o eastern_a bishop_n in_o a_o council_n hold_v in_o the_o west_n as_o he_o prove_v by_o divers_a example_n but_o if_o two_o or_o three_o bishop_n can_v sufficient_o represent_v one_o entire_a part_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n why_o may_v not_o as_o many_o more_o represent_v the_o other_o part_n which_o be_v admit_v a_o meeting_n of_o four_o or_o five_o bishop_n will_v constitute_v a_o general_n council_n which_o to_o i_o seem_v very_o absurd_a and_o ridiculous_a hence_o it_o appear_v therefore_o that_o our_o adversary_n can_v produce_v nothing_o satisfactory_a in_o this_o matter_n which_o will_v be_v yet_o more_o manifest_a if_o to_o what_o we_o have_v observe_v already_o be_v add_v that_o they_o talk_v much_o concern_v it_o but_o prove_v nothing_o whereas_o they_o shall_v not_o tell_v we_o what_o they_o think_v requisite_a or_o sufficient_a to_o constitute_v a_o general_n council_n but_o also_o demonstrate_v it_o so_o to_o be_v and_o that_o so_o clear_o that_o no_o doubt_n may_v remain_v otherwise_o we_o shall_v be_v ever_o uncertain_a which_o be_v to_o be_v call_v ecumenical_a council_n and_o which_o not_o yet_o nothing_o of_o this_o be_v produce_v by_o they_o themselves_o rather_o differ_v about_o the_o condition_n and_o what_o one_o think_v sufficient_a or_o necessary_a another_o reject_v as_o insufficient_a or_o unuseful_a so_o bellarmine_n think_v it_o sufficient_a that_o many_o be_v present_a in_o the_o council_n and_o none_o exclude_v lupus_n deny_v this_o to_o suffice_v unless_o the_o absent_a bishop_n either_o before_o or_o after_o the_o council_n shall_v assent_v bellarmine_n hold_v this_o assent_n unnecessary_a for_o speak_v of_o the_o lateran_n council_n under_o leo_n x._o he_o have_v these_o word_n 17._o word_n quod_fw-la autem_fw-la non_fw-la fuerit_fw-la receptum_fw-la saltem_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la parùm_fw-la refert_fw-la nam_fw-la decreta_fw-la conciliorum_fw-la non_fw-la indigent_a approbatione_fw-la populi_fw-la cùm_fw-la ab_fw-la co●uon_n accipiant_fw-la authoritatem_fw-la bell._n the_o council_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 17._o but_o whereas_o it_o be_v not_o receive_v at_o least_o by_o all_o it_o matter_n little_a for_o the_o decree_n of_o a_o council_n need_v not_o the_o approbation_n of_o the_o people_n since_o they_o receive_v not_o their_o authority_n from_o they_o fabulottus_n 5._o fabulottus_n fabul_n de_fw-fr potest_fw-la papae_fw-la super_fw-la council_n c._n 5._o and_o the_o author_n supra_fw-la author_n vbi_fw-la supra_fw-la of_o the_o treatise_n of_o the_o liberty_n of_o the_o gallican_n church_n maintain_v and_o at_o large_a prove_v the_o same_o thing_n thus_o all_o thing_n be_v uncertain_a among_o they_o and_o hang_v upon_o a_o thread_n martinonus_n be_v not_o ignorant_a of_o this_o who_o to_o proceed_v more_o wary_o fly_v to_o the_o pope_n and_o council_n itself_o and_o make_v they_o especial_o the_o pope_n the_o only_a judge_n of_o these_o preliminary_a question_n to_o he_o say_v he_o 7._o he_o pontificis_fw-la est_fw-la declarare_fw-la a_o congregatio_fw-la sit_fw-la generalis_fw-la sufficienter_fw-la &_o a_o qui_fw-la adsunt_fw-la teneant_fw-la locum_fw-la sufficienter_fw-la omnium_fw-la aliorum_fw-la mart._n de_fw-fr fide_fw-la disp_n 5._o sect._n 7._o it_o belong_v to_o declare_v whether_o the_o assembly_n be_v sufficient_o general_a and_o whether_o those_o which_o be_v present_a sufficient_o represent_v all_o the_o rest_n but_o neither_o do_v this_o suffice_v for_o as_o to_o a_o council_n since_o only_o a_o general_n can_v infallible_o pronounce_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o the_o universality_n of_o the_o council_n pertain_v to_o faith_n before_o we_o can_v acquiesce_v in_o the_o determination_n of_o 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