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A07805 The encounter against M. Parsons, by a revievv of his last sober reckoning, and his exceptions vrged in the treatise of his mitigation. Wherein moreouer is inserted: 1. A confession of some Romanists, both concerning the particular falsifications of principall Romanists, as namely, Bellarmine, Suarez, and others: as also concerning the generall fraude of that curch, in corrupting of authors. 2. A confutation of slaunders, which Bellarmine vrged against Protestants. 3. A performance of the challenge, which Mr. Parsons made, for the examining of sixtie Fathers, cited by Coccius for proofe of Purgatorie ... 4. A censure of a late pamphlet, intituled, The patterne of a Protestant, by one once termed the moderate answerer. 5. An handling of his question of mentall equiuocation (after his boldnesse with the L. Cooke) vpon occasion of the most memorable, and feyned Yorkeshire case of equiuocating; and of his raging against D. Kings sermon. Published by authoritie Morton, Thomas, 1564-1659. 1610 (1610) STC 18183; ESTC S112913 342,598 466

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which_o supposition_n the_o minister_n leave_v out_o that_o he_o may_v more_o cunning_o shift_v and_o avoid_v it_o the_o review_n 22_o i_o will_v not_o contend_v with_o m._n parson_n about_o the_o word_n ubi_fw-la id_fw-la evenisset_fw-la to_o examine_v whether_o it_o signify_v by_o way_n of_o supposition_n if_o it_o have_v happen_v or_o without_o supposition_n whereas_o it_o have_v happen_v see_v it_o may_v indifferent_o carry_v both_o sense_n the_o question_n be_v whether_o salmeron_n who_o m._n parson_n commend_v for_o a_o learned_a man_n who_o have_v write_v many_o volume_n and_o be_v one_o of_o the_o first_o ten_o of_o the_o order_n of_o the_o jesuit_n do_v suppose_v only_o and_o not_o affirm_v that_o king_n in_o the_o old_a law_n have_v supreme_a authority_n over_o priest_n or_o no_o who_o can_v better_a decide_v this_o contention_n than_o salmeron_n himself_o first_o look_v to_o the_o same_o place_n and_o he_o say_v in_o the_o word_n follow_v contrà_fw-la itaq_n cum_fw-la populus_fw-la etc._n etc._n see_v that_o the_o people_n of_o god_n do_v consist_v of_o a_o body_n and_o of_o a_o soul_n the_o carnal_a part_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n have_v the_o chiefdome_n and_o be_v so_o appoint_v for_o signification_n of_o spiritual_a thing_n a_o little_a after_o speak_v of_o the_o old_a testament_n the_o law_n say_v he_o be_v abolish_v and_o the_o subjection_n of_o moses_n priest_n unto_o king_n these_o term_n exceed_v the_o degree_n of_o supposition_n 23_o but_o howsoever_o salmeron_n may_v seem_v to_o reel_v and_o stagger_v in_o that_o place_n both_o by_o suppose_v and_o by_o affirm_v by_o doubt_v and_o yet_o by_o conclude_v notwithstanding_o if_o m._n parson_n have_v have_v a_o desire_n to_o know_v the_o resolute_a &_o determinate_a judgement_n of_o salmernon_n in_o this_o point_n he_o may_v have_v easy_o understand_v this_o express_a sentence_n of_o salmeron_n nunc_fw-la nunc_fw-la omissâ_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o be_v now_o omit_v the_o spiritual_a power_n say_v he_o in_o the_o law_n of_o nature_n or_o in_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n which_o be_v less_o in_o the_o salmeron_n old_a testament_n than_o be_v the_o regal_a and_o kingly_a and_o therefore_o the_o high_a priest_n be_v subject_a unto_o king_n as_o also_o among_o the_o gentile_n etc._n etc._n let_v m._n parson_n ponder_v this_o sentence_n and_o he_o shall_v find_v that_o this_o his_o learned_a man_n salmeron_n one_o of_o the_o first_o ten_o of_o m._n parson_n his_o order_n do_v confute_v many_o score_n of_o jesuit_n who_o since_o have_v hold_v the_o contrary_a this_o also_o show_v how_o absurd_o ignorant_a m._n parson_n be_v of_o the_o judgement_n of_o salmeron_n i_o be_o almost_o tire_v with_o his_o verbosity_n and_o verbal_a skirmish_n and_o therefore_o have_v obtain_v the_o cause_n i_o pass_v over_o his_o canvas_n of_o the_o word_n synagoga_fw-la and_o the_o other_o of_o populus_fw-la dei_fw-la and_o proceed_v unto_o the_o material_n chap._n ii_o contain_v a_o answer_n unto_o other_o eight_o charge_n sect_n i._o the_o sum_n of_o the_o eight_o charge_n of_o m._n parson_n his_o reckon_a out_o of_o salmeron_n and_o carerius_fw-la patch_v together_o he_o 420._o make_v this_o romish_a pretence_n that_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v a_o figure_n of_o the_o new_a in_o christ_n &_o that_o therefore_o the_o spiritual_a power_n as_o popedom_n must_v be_v the_o chief_a or_o substantive_a etc._n etc._n and_o answer_v call_v this_o rather_o babish_a grammar_n than_o sound_a divinity_n and_o say_v that_o the_o earthly_a element_n be_v figure_n of_o the_o spiritual_a and_o he_o avenly_a thing_n in_o the_o eternal_a and_o celestial_a jerusalem_n will_v he_o therefore_o conclude_v by_o sound_a divinity_n that_o it_o be_v not_o a_o figure_n of_o thing_n upon_o earth_n which_o shall_v be_v fulfil_v in_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v not_o manna_n a_o figure_n of_o the_o eucharist_n and_o circumcision_n