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A90879 A voice from heaven: or, A testimony against the remainders of Antichrist yet in England: and in particular, the court of tryers for approbation of ministers. / Born by Gualter Postlethwait, pastor to a Church of Christ in Lewes in Sussex. Postlethwaite, Walter, d. 1671. 1655 (1655) Wing P3022; Thomason E1498_3; ESTC R208640 39,391 112

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