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A01309 A defense of the sincere and true translations of the holie Scriptures into the English tong against the manifolde cauils, friuolous quarels, and impudent slaunders of Gregorie Martin, one of the readers of popish diuinitie in the trayterous Seminarie of Rhemes. By William Fvlke D. in Diuinitie, and M. of Pembroke haule in Cambridge. Wherevnto is added a briefe confutation of all such quarrels & cauils, as haue bene of late vttered by diuerse papistes in their English pamphlets, against the writings of the saide William Fvlke. Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1583 (1583) STC 11430.5; ESTC S102715 542,090 704

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not_o be_v say_v without_o blasphemy_n that_o the_o sacramentis_fw-la lord_n and_o god_n next_o follow_v reproachful_a term_n use_v against_o allen._n the_o first_o brazen_a face_n and_o iron_n forehead_n i_o do_v not_o yet_o find_v but_o it_o signify_v nothing_o but_o notable_a impudence_n which_o be_v note_v pag._n 23._o where_o i_o call_v he_o impudent_a blasphemer_n because_o he_o have_v say_v of_o we_o that_o to_o such_o as_o make_v no_o store_n of_o good_a work_n they_o cast_v only_a faith_n under_o their_o elbow_n to_o lean_v upon_o where_o as_o none_o of_o we_o do_v ever_o teach_v that_o such_o a_o faith_n as_o be_v not_o lively_a &_o fruitful_a of_o good_a work_n do_v ever_o profit_v any_o man_n but_o to_o the_o increase_n of_o his_o damnation_n again_o pag._n 24._o i_o note_v he_o to_o pass_v impudency_n itself_o in_o shameless_a lie_v where_o he_o say_v commit_v what_o you_o list_v omit_v what_o you_o listen_v your_o preacher_n shall_v praise_v it_o in_o their_o word_n and_o 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