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A81826 Of the right of churches and of the magistrates power over them. Wherein is further made out 1. the nullity and vanity of ecclesiasticall power (of ex-communicating, deposing, and making lawes) independent from the power of magistracy. 2. The absurdity of the distinctions of power and lawes into ecclesiasticall and civil, spirituall and temporall. 3. That these distinctions have introduced the mystery of iniquity into the world, and alwayes disunited the minds and affections of Christians and brethren. 4. That those reformers who have stood for a jurisdiction distinct from that of the magistrate, have unawares strenghthened [sic] the mystery of iniquity. / By Lewis du Moulin Professour of History in the Vniversity of Oxford. Du Moulin, Lewis, 1606-1680. 1658 (1658) Wing D2544; Thomason E2115_1; ESTC R212665 195,819 444

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and_o 30._o chapter_n of_o 2_o chronic._n for_o the_o magistrate_n power_n of_o call_v synod_n be_v of_o the_o same_o stamp_n it_o be_v true_a chap._n 29._o v._n 4._o ezechiah_o gather_a priest_n &_o levite_n together_o but_o it_o be_v to_o make_v a_o exhortation_n to_o they_o not_o that_o they_o shall_v congregate_v into_o a_o synod_n invest_v with_o judicial_a authority_n i_o think_v that_o none_o ever_o yet_o dream_v of_o it_o that_o synod_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n can_v be_v prove_v out_o of_o that_o place_n the_o last_o place_n prov._n 11._o v._o 14._o speak_v of_o counsellor_n in_o the_o multitude_n of_o which_o there_o be_v safety_n but_o not_o a_o word_n there_o of_o call_v of_o they_o nor_o that_o those_o who_o be_v call_v be_v priest_n and_o levite_n but_o rather_o any_o other_o one_o will_v almost_o think_v that_o they_o have_v a_o mind_n to_o weaken_v a_o good_a cause_n and_o make_v invalid_a the_o power_n of_o the_o magistrate_n by_o allege_v place_n that_o make_v 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and_o clear_o make_v certain_a before_o the_o synod_n get_v any_o authority_n with_o we_o so_o that_o synod_n be_v of_o authority_n when_o man_n and_o church_n be_v clear_o convince_v of_o the_o equity_n reasonableness_n and_o truth_n of_o their_o decision_n i_o be_o not_o of_o the_o opinion_n of_o gregory_n nazianzen_n and_o bazil_n who_o condemn_v all_o synod_n general_o for_o i_o believe_v they_o be_v of_o very_o good_a use_n and_o necessary_o to_o be_v have_v so_o that_o the_o member_n be_v not_o invest_v with_o any_o judicial_a power_n independent_a from_o the_o magistrate_n or_o from_o particular_a church_n who_o decision_n be_v counsel_n and_o advice_n give_v to_o they_o both_o not_o law_n otherwise_o i_o think_v little_a or_o no_o good_a be_v to_o be_v expect_v from_o they_o and_o that_o they_o be_v not_o a_o way_n to_o decide_v controversy_n 1._o judge_n in_o a_o assembly_n never_o so_o upright_o must_v be_v indifferent_a to_o person_n and_o cause_n but_o so_o can_v minister_n be_v in_o a_o synod_n for_o a_o synod_n make_v up_o of_o orthodox_n divine_v be_v no_o competent_a judge_n of_o arminian_o therefore_o it_o be_v no_o marvel_n if_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n do_v condemn_v the_o lutheran_n in_o the_o first_o session_n before_o they_o ever_o hear_v they_o or_o that_o a_o late_a synod_n at_o charenton_n prepossess_v against_o independent_a church_n in_o england_n do_v as_o it_o be_v anathematise_v they_o though_o none_o of_o the_o member_n of_o that_o synod_n be_v 80._o in_o number_n have_v hardly_o see_v the_o face_n or_o writing_n of_o any_o of_o they_o 2._o it_o seem_v to_o be_v against_o all_o course_n and_o proceed_n of_o court_n either_o of_o law_n or_o chancery_n that_o both_o plaintiff_n and_o defendant_n shall_v sit_v as_o judge_n in_o one_o judicatory_a to_o determine_v their_o own_o cause_n 3._o if_o there_o be_v but_o one_o party_n either_o the_o defendant_n or_o plaintiff_n sit_v &_o vote_v no_o doubt_n but_o he_o will_v cast_v his_o adversary_n out_o of_o the_o court_n therefore_o there_o be_v no_o other_o than_o protestant_n sit_v and_o vote_v in_o the_o synod_n of_o dordrecht_n the_o arminian_o can_v not_o choose_v but_o loose_v their_o cause_n beside_o that_o it_o be_v no_o less_o unreasonable_a that_o one_o party_n shall_v submit_v to_o the_o judgement_n of_o his_o adverse_a party_n 4._o it_o seem_v neither_o just_a nor_o reasonable_a that_o church_n and_o man_n shall_v submit_v to_o the_o major_a part_n of_o the_o member_n state_v and_o conclude_v of_o any_o matter_n of_o religion_n rather_o than_o to_o the_o weight_n of_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o minor_a part_n dissent_v shall_v in_o synod_n always_o the_o major_a number_n of_o vote_n carry_v it_o in_o a_o general_a council_n make_v up_o of_o papist_n lutheran_n calvinist_n no_o doubt_n but_o that_o party_n that_o be_v most_o numerous_a though_o it_o carry_v it_o but_o by_o one_o vote_n will_v give_v religion_n and_o faith_n to_o all_o the_o rest_n therefore_o the_o late_a long_a parliament_n do_v wise_o decline_v to_o adhere_v rather_o to_o the_o major_a part_n of_o the_o member_n in_o the_o assembly_n who_o have_v vote_v for_o a_o presbyterian_a government_n reserve_v to_o themselves_o the_o liberty_n to_o weigh_v the_o reason_n of_o both_o not_o to_o number_v the_o person_n hence_o we_o may_v gather_v how_o unreasonable_a it_o be_v in_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n that_o that_o which_o be_v not_o the_o act_n of_o all_o shall_v be_v repute_v as_o do_v by_o all_o when_o as_o it_o may_v fall_v out_o that_o the_o major_a part_n have_v out-voted_n the_o minor_a but_o by_o one_o suffrage_n for_o usual_o all_o collection_n syntagme_n of_o confession_n of_o faith_n canon_n and_o decree_n go_v currant_n and_o be_v publish_v to_o the_o world_n as_o if_o all_o the_o member_n have_v consent_v to_o they_o with_o a_o
church_n will_v there_o be_v even_o 33._o for_o so_o many_o be_v overcome_v but_o shall_v all_o these_o 33._o king_n be_v subdue_v these_o 33._o church_n will_v cease_v to_o be_v independent_a on_o each_o other_o and_o in_o stead_n of_o 33._o church_n depend_v each_o on_o their_o magistrate_n one_o national_a church_n shall_v be_v mould_v of_o the_o same_o extent_n of_o power_n as_o the_o magistrate_n that_o rule_v over_o they_o chapter_n xxii_o that_o the_o great_a opposer_n of_o the_o dissent_v brethren_n namely_o salmasius_n amyraldus_n and_o other_o have_v lay_v down_o the_o same_o ground_n for_o the_o right_n and_o power_n of_o particular_a church_n and_o so_o confute_v rather_o their_o own_o fancy_n then_o invalidate_v the_o tenet_n of_o the_o brethren_n the_o question_n whether_o rome_n be_v a_o true_a church_n brief_o resolve_v that_o amesius_n and_o john_n mestrezat_n late_o minister_v of_o paris_n in_o their_o writing_n have_v hold_v the_o power_n of_o private_a church_n to_o be_v independent_a from_o any_o church-judicatory_a the_o spirit_n of_o man_n be_v now_o a_o little_a more_o calm_a and_o not_o so_o eager_a either_o at_o home_n or_o abroad_o and_o the_o quarrel_n not_o so_o fierce_a with_o the_o independent_o as_o it_o bathe_v be_v these_o 15._o year_n i_o have_v myself_o be_v a_o poor_a instrument_n to_o disabuse_v some_o of_o my_o countryman_n who_o partly_o by_o their_o misunderstanding_n pait_o by_o the_o false_a report_n and_o ill_a will_n of_o the_o common_a enemy_n to_o all_o goodness_n &_o good_a man_n be_v possess_v of_o very_o harsh_a opinion_n and_o conceit_n of_o they_o &_o pass_v a_o strange_a censure_n upon_o they_o as_o enemy_n to_o all_o order_n and_o discipline_n and_o man_n of_o dangerous_a and_o pernicious_a tenet_n to_o all_o humane_a society_n the_o very_a child_n among_o they_o do_v question_n whether_o they_o be_v shape_v like_o other_o man_n amyraldus_n make_v a_o great_a book_n of_o invective_n against_o they_o and_o turn_v they_o into_o sodomite_n frantic_v and_o enemy_n of_o all_o order_n and_o discipline_n salmasi●s_n and_o maiesius_n be_v no_o less_o bitter_a against_o they_o a_o national_a synod_n net_n at_o charenton_n where_o amyraldus_n have_v a_o stand_a but_o no_o vote_n condemn_v they_o but_o as_o this_o synod_n condemn_v they_o as_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n do_v the_o lutheran_n before_o they_o hear_v they_o so_o do_v all_o these_o author_n i_o have_v name_v fall_n upon_o they_o without_o mercy_n before_o they_o have_v any_o particular_a knowledge_n of_o they_o or_o any_o certain_a information_n of_o their_o suppose_a pernicious_a manner_n yet_o for_o all_o that_o those_o very_a man_n that_o write_v so_o much_o against_o they_o as_o they_o refute_v rather_o their_o own_o fancy_n than_o any_o thing_n those_o they_o call_v independent_o believe_v so_o they_o do_v handle_v this_o matter_n of_o the_o nature_n and_o power_n of_o the_o church_n and_o that_o of_o the_o magistrate_n over_o it_o much_o to_o the_o advantage_n of_o those_o that_o they_o make_v as_o black_a as_o they_o can_v namely_o amyraldus_n in_o declare_v both_o his_o own_o sense_n and_o that_o of_o the_o ancient_a church_n next_o to_o the_o apostle_n have_v lay_v the_o same_o groundwork_n for_o the_o parity_n and_o independency_n of_o church_n as_o the_o reverend_a brethren_n dissent_v from_o the_o assembly_n of_o divine_n have_v do_v he_o allege_v vignier_n a_o french_a author_n write_v above_o 70._o year_n ago_o high_o value_v as_o the_o true_a historiographer_n that_o ever_o put_v pen_n to_o paper_n by_o the_o most_o learned_a and_o pious_a prelate_n dr._n usher_n in_o his_o ecclesiastical_a history_n relate_v the_o opinion_n of_o irenaeus_n eusebius_n and_o nicephorus_n concern_v the_o state_n of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n soon_o after_o the_o apostle_n the_o form_n of_o the_o government_n in_o this_o age_n be_v almost_o democraticall_a for_o every_o church_n have_v equal_a power_n to_o teach_v the_o word_n of_o god_n to_o administer_v the_o sacrament_n to_o absolve_v and_o excommunicate_v heretic_n and_o those_o that_o lead_v a_o d'ssolute_a life_n to_o elect_v to_o call_v and_o to_o ordain_v minister_n to_o depose_v they_o when_o occasion_n require_v to_o erect_v school_n to_o call_v synod_n to_o ask_v the_o opinion_n of_o other_o upon_o doubt_n and_o controver_n sie_fw-la i_o find_v the_o centuriator_n of_o magdeburg_n cent_n ●_o cap_n 7._o to_o have_v these_o or_o equivalent_a word_n with_o little_a difference_n but_o that_o they_o write_v in_o latin_a and_o vignier_n in_o french_a here_o than_o we_o may_v see_v our_o brethren_n sense_n 1._o that_o every_o particular_a church_n be_v independent_a free_a to_o govern_v itself_o and_o to_o exercise_v all_o church_n act_n not_o reject_v a_o consociation_n with_o other_o church_n but_o such_o as_o equal_n have_v among_o themselves_o 2._o for_o the_o power_n of_o synod_n they_o acknowledge_v none_o nor_o judicial_a authority_n only_o a_o liberty_n to_o admonish_v advise_v and_o counsel_n in_o the_o 8._o chapter_n he_o have_v a_o long_a passage_n whereof_o the_o drift_n be_v 1._o that_o particular_a church_n be_v no_o less_o free_a asunder_o than_o province_n and_o town_n before_o they_o join_v in_o a_o confederation_n 2._o that_o all_o aggregation_n and_o consociation_n be_v as_o free_v for_o church_n as_o for_o free_a town_n or_o city_n 3._o that_o a_o particular_a church_n for_o example_n that_o of_o saumur_n consider_v as_o not_o unite_v by_o any_o voluntary_a confederacy_n to_o other_o church_n owe_v the_o same_o duty_n of_o respect_n to_o the_o order_n and_o constitution_n of_o the_o church_n of_o leyden_n heydelberg_n and_o basil_n as_o to_o to_o those_o of_o paris_n or_o roven_n 4._o that_o the_o power_n of_o synod_n over_o church_n be_v of_o the_o same_o humane_a and_o civil_a right_n with_o the_o power_n of_o a_o judicial_a senatover_n city_n and_o town_n pag._n 144._o he_o have_v 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divinity_n physician_n in_o physic_n each_o professor_n of_o art_n in_o his_o art_n not_o only_o because_o they_o be_v more_o verse_v in_o that_o thing_n they_o profess_v but_o also_o ex_fw-la officio_fw-la have_v a_o judgement_n that_o carry_v and_o give_v more_o authority_n but_o it_o be_v fallible_a and_o therefore_o subject_a to_o the_o revisall_n of_o other_o whether_o magistrate_n or_o subject_n and_o not_o attend_v with_o command_n oblige_v to_o obedience_n either_o active_a or_o passive_a it_o be_v only_o authentic_a to_o they_o that_o be_v persuade_v and_o convince_v to_o yield_v to_o it_o chapter_n v._n a_o examination_n of_o the_o 30._o chapter_n of_o the_o confession_n of_o faith_n make_v by_o the_o river_n assembly_n of_o divine_n that_o in_o their_o assembly_n they_o assume_v no_o jurisdiction_n nor_o have_v any_o delegated_a to_o they_o from_o the_o magistrate_n and_o therefore_o be_v not_o to_o attribute_v it_o to_o their_o brethren_n that_o the_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n be_v the_o same_o with_o the_o magistrate_n jurisdiction_n mr._n gillespy_v reason_n examine_v the_o reverend_a assembly_n of_o divine_n in_o the_o 30._o and_o 31._o chapter_n of_o their_o confession_n of_o faith_n be_v strong_a assertor_n of_o a_o double_a jurisdiction_n before_o i_o come_v to_o examine_v what_o they_o say_v and_o their_o proof_n allege_v in_o the_o margin_n i_o will_v be_v well_o understand_v that_o i_o do_v not_o quarrel_v against_o the_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n over_o the_o inward_a man_n in_o the_o ministry_n when_o a_o minister_n do_v command_v from_o christ_n and_o the_o people_n yield_v obedience_n be_v once_o enlighten_v and_o convince_v all_o be_v do_v on_o both_o part_n willing_o and_o not_o by_o constraint_n the_o weapon_n of_o that_o jurisdiction_n be_v not_o carnal_a and_o yet_o very_o mighty_a not_o by_o put_v away_o by_o excommunication_n but_o by_o pull_v down_o the_o strong_a hold_n of_o sin_n and_o bring_v into_o captivity_n every_o thought_n to_o the_o obedience_n of_o christ_n 2._o cor._n 10._o v._n 4._o &_o 5._o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n say_v they_o sect_n 1._o as_o king_n and_o head_n of_o his_o church_n have_v therein_o appoint_v a_o government_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o church-officer_n distinct_a from_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n it_o may_v be_v the_o rev._n assembly_n do_v only_o intend_v to_o adjudge_v jurisdiction_n to_o other_o church-assembly_n and_o synod_n and_o none_o to_o themselves_o for_o these_o reason_n 1._o they_o be_v bind_v by_o their_o charter_n by_o which_o they_o be_v call_v not_o to_o exercise_v any_o jurisdiction_n and_o authority_n ecclesiastical_a whatsoever_o or_o any_o other_o power_n for_o these_o be_v the_o word_n of_o the_o ordinance_n and_o beside_o be_v en_fw-fr join_v not_o to_o assume_v any_o authority_n but_o to_o advise_v and_o give_v counsel_n upon_o such_o thing_n as_o shall_v be_v propound_v to_o they_o and_o to_o deliver_v their_o opinion_n and_o advice_n 2._o and_o the_o same_o they_o do_v
christian_a religion_n his_o aim_n be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v not_o so_o much_o peace_n and_o quietness_n as_o godliness_n and_o honesty_n must_v a_o magistrate_n hide_v his_o power_n which_o be_v his_o talon_n in_o a_o napkin_n be_v not_o adam_n abraham_n isaac_n and_o jacob_n by_o their_o paternal_a magistraticall_a power_n tie_v to_o promote_v god_n true_a worship_n it_o be_v very_o strange_a doctrine_n when_o he_o say_v p._n 189._o that_o the_o end_n of_o a_o ecclesiastical_a sentence_n as_o deliver_v to_o satan_n be_v that_o man_n may_v learn_v not_o to_o blaspheme_v but_o the_o end_n of_o the_o magistrate_n in_o punish_v blasphemer_n be_v only_o that_o justice_n may_v be_v do_v according_a to_o law_n and_o that_o peace_n and_o good_a order_n may_v be_v maintain_v a_o rank_n papist_n can_v hardly_o speak_v more_o crude_o ought_v not_o this_o to_o be_v the_o end_n of_o the_o magistrate_n in_o punish_v transgressor_n if_o it_o be_v not_o by_o death_n that_o they_o may_v change_v their_o life_n and_o be_v better_o than_o they_o be_v be_v not_o reformation_n of_o life_n the_o end_n for_o which_o a_o blasphemer_n be_v punish_v but_o only_a peace_n and_o quietness_n the_o magistrate_n may_v as_o well_o let_v he_o go_v unpunished_a if_o he_o can_v but_o obtain_v his_o end_n which_o as_o mr._n gillespie_n say_v be_v peace_n and_o quietness_n which_o have_v be_v often_o obtain_v when_o no_o blasphemer_n be_v punish_v it_o be_v observe_v that_o in_o augustus_n time_n there_o be_v for_o 12._o year_n through_o all_o the_o roman_a empire_n peace_n and_o quietness_n though_o the_o life_n of_o all_o his_o subject_n be_v a_o perpetual_a blasphemy_n against_o god_n but_o i_o pray_v how_o can_v christ_n church_n be_v rule_v by_o magistracy_n except_o it_o be_v in_o the_o name_n of_o christ_n promote_v the_o interest_n of_o jesus_n christ_n and_o aim_v at_o the_o glory_n of_o jesus_n christ_n when_o he_o say_v that_o the_o magi●…rate_a of_o england_n be_v not_o a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o a_o magistrate_n but_o as_o a_o christian_a and_o that_o he_o govern_v not_o as_o a_o christian_a but_o as_o a_o magistrate_n i_o confess_v i_o understand_v not_o why_o i_o may_v not_o say_v as_o well_o that_o a_o pastor_n be_v not_o a_o member_n of_o a_o church_n as_o pastor_n but_o as_o a_o christian_a for_o there_o be_v in_o the_o church_n as_o well_o balaam_n and_o false_a teacher_n as_o persecute_v magistrate_n why_o may_v i_o not_o say_v that_o a_o father_n be_v not_o to_o teach_v the_o fear_n of_o the_o lord_n to_o his_o son_n as_o a_o father_n but_o as_o a_o christian_a for_o the_o magistrate_n be_v not_o to_o rule_v and_o order_n affair_n of_o the_o church_n as_o a_o christian_a but_o as_o a_o magistrate_n otherwise_o a_o christian_n without_o the_o office_n of_o magistracy_n may_v do_v the_o like_a how_o can_v the_o duty_n about_o the_o exercise_n of_o a_o power_n be_v divide_v from_o the_o power_n itself_o as_o that_o a_o magistrate_n shall_v be_v by_o his_o duty_n of_o magistracy_n keeper_n of_o both_o table_n and_o yet_o shall_v have_v no_o power_n give_v from_o god_n for_o the_o keep_n of_o these_o table_n but_o which_o be_v most_o all_o surd_a how_o can_v the_o keep_n of_o the_o two_o table_n under_o the_o gospel_n be_v separate_v from_o the_o keep_n of_o the_o doctrine_n and_o discipline_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o that_o the_o magistrate_n shall_v be_v keeper_n of_o one_o and_o the_o pastor_n of_o the_o other_o if_o the_o magistrate_n under_o the_o old_a testament_n be_v keeper_n not_o only_o of_o the_o decalogue_n but_o also_o of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n by_o which_o the_o people_n of_o israel_n be_v distinguish_v from_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o world_n what_o hinder_v but_o he_o shall_v be_v under_o the_o gospels_n administration_n a_o keeper_n both_o of_o the_o law_n and_o gospel_n except_o mr._n gillespie_n say_v that_o the_o priest_n be_v keeper_n of_o the_o law_n whereof_o david_n speak_v in_o the_o 19_o psalm_n and_o the_o magistrate_n keeper_n of_o the_o two_o table_n give_v in_o mount_n sinai_n as_o for_o the_o magistrate_n be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o no_o head_n or_o governor_n of_o the_o church_n i_o believe_v he_o be_v as_o much_o liable_a to_o submit_v and_o stoop_v his_o will_n to_o the_o command_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o ministry_n as_o the_o low_a in_o the_o congregation_n he_o must_v acknowledge_v his_o minister_n the_o better_a man_n as_o honour_v with_o the_o high_a function_n that_o ever_o be_v and_o which_o the_o son_n of_o god_n our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n take_v upon_o he_o but_o be_v all_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o many_o jesus_n christ_n i_o will_v yield_v unto_o they_o all_o alike_a jurisdiction_n over_o the_o will_n and_o mind_n of_o man_n but_o deny_v they_o a_o external_a coercive_a judicial_a power_n over_o their_o body_n estate_n liberty_n etc._n etc._n chapter_n viii_o mr._n gillespy_v manifest_a contradiction_n in_o state_v the_o magistrate_n power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n but_o i_o will_v plain_o show_v that_o in_o this_o matter_n mr._n gillespie_n do_v manifest_o contradict_v himself_o and_o stand_v on_o no_o sure_a ground_n for_o what_o he_o have_v take_v from_o the_o magistrate_n in_o some_o place_n in_o other_o he_o restore_v to_o he_o in_o some_o he_o grant_v as_o much_o to_o the_o magistrate_n as_o if_o he_o have_v be_v another_o erastus_n in_o other_o he_o give_v he_o nothing_o at_o all_o and_o make_v ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a jurisdiction_n to_o be_v res_fw-la disparatae_fw-la or_o thing_n as_o much_o different_a as_o wisdom_n and_o a_o candlestick_n be_v of_o several_a class_n and_o predicament_n so_o that_o one_o have_v nothing_o to_o meddle_v with_o the_o other_o thus_o pag._n 253._o these_o be_v his_o word_n we_o deny_v that_o in_o a_o well-constituted_n church_n it_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o will_n of_o christ_n for_o the_o magistrate_n either_o to_o receive_v appeal_n proper_o so_o call_v from_o the_o sentence_n of_o a_o ecclesiastical_a court_n or_o to_o receive_v complaint_n exhibit_v against_o that_o sentence_n by_o that_o party_n censure_v so_o as_o by_o his_o authority_n upon_o such_o a_o complaint_n to_o nullify_v or_o make_v void_a the_o ecclesiastical_a censure_n this_o indeed_o be_v imperium_fw-la in_o imperio_fw-la a_o jurisdiction_n within_o a_o jurisdiction_n and_o independent_a from_o it_o mr._n gillespie_n will_v not_o have_v a_o man_n to_o appeal_v from_o the_o presbytery_n or_o synod_n or_o make_v complaint_n to_o the_o magistrate_n nor_o a_o magistrate_n to_o receive_v the_o complaint_n but_o he_o be_v content_v that_o the_o magistrate_n shall_v act_v the_o part_n of_o a_o executioner_n in_o compel_v the_o party_n censure_v to_o submit_v to_o the_o church-censure_n which_o indeed_o be_v a_o most_o ungodly_a and_o tyrannical_a proceed_n like_o that_o of_o pope_n julius_n the_o 2._o who_o will_v have_v king_n lewis_n the_o 12._o to_o execute_v the_o sentence_n against_o the_o waldenses_n by_o destroy_v they_o by_o the_o sword_n and_o burn_v their_o city_n without_o take_v any_o cognizance_n of_o the_o fact_n and_o since_o all_o church-censure_n do_v signify_v just_a nothing_o without_o a_o power_n of_o magistracy_n give_v its_o sanction_n for_o effectuate_a the_o sentence_n of_o the_o church_n here_o if_o we_o believe_v mr._n gillespie_n the_o pastor_n be_v like_o the_o intellect_n and_o the_o magistrate_n the_o will_n this_o follow_v with_o a_o blind_a obedience_n the_o dictate_v of_o that_o but_o who_o shall_v judge_v when_o the_o church_n be_v well_o constitute_v that_o then_o the_o magistrate_n may_v not_o receive_v complaint_n and_o appeal_n and_o may_v not_o sometime_o wrong_a proceed_n und_fw-ge unjust_a sentence_n pass_v in_o a_o well-constituted_n church_n so_o long_o as_o a_o church_n never_o so_o pure_a be_v not_o infallible_a and_o on_o the_o contrary_a may_v not_o a_o unsettled_a church_n be_v very_o just_a in_o their_o censure_n why_o then_o shall_v it_o be_v more_o agreeable_a to_o the_o will_n of_o christ_n to_o receive_v appeal_n from_o a_o just_a sentence_n in_o a_o unsettled_a church_n then_o from_o a_o unjust_a one_o when_o the_o church_n be_v well-constituted_n but_o when_o be_v ever_o such_o a_o well-constituted_n church_n unerring_a in_o their_o judgement_n as_o all_o appeal_n from_o their_o judgement_n to_o another_o shall_v be_v unlawful_a be_v or_o be_v that_o church_n well-constituted_n that_o either_o ever_o clash_a with_o magistracy_n or_o be_v divide_v in_o itself_o as_o now_o it_o be_v now_o we_o shall_v find_v mr._n gillespie_n play_v two_o other_o part_n under_o the_o one_o he_o ascribe_v to_o the_o magistrate_n as_o much_o as_o ever_o they_o challenge_v under_o the_o other_o vizard_n he_o chalk_v a_o middle_a way_n of_o magistrate_n power_n in_o sacred_a thing_n
many_o constitution_n about_o regulate_v the_o power_n of_o father_n master_n and_o husband_n and_o yet_o allow_v they_o their_o authority_n at_o home_n be_v a_o argument_n that_o their_o fatherly_a power_n be_v consistent_a with_o their_o subordination_n to_o the_o magistrate_n 4._o there_o be_v as_o i_o show_v above_o two_o kind_n of_o act_n to_o be_v perform_v in_o a_o church_n one_o as_o they_o be_v church-member_n the_o other_o as_o they_o be_v a_o society_n that_o for_o their_o government_n must_v assume_v some_o part_n of_o jurisdiction_n of_o the_o same_o nature_n with_o the_o magistrate_n power_n in_o the_o manage_n of_o the_o act_n of_o the_o first_o kind_n there_o be_v no_o subordination_n of_o the_o church_n to_o the_o magistrate_n but_o only_o in_o the_o second_o for_o preach_v hear_v the_o word_n of_o god_n administer_a the_o sacrament_n walk_v holy_o submit_v one_o to_o another_o be_v no_o act_n of_o power_n subordinate_a to_o the_o magistrate_n and_o under_o that_o consideration_n i_o will_v grant_v the_o right_n of_o church_n not_o to_o depend_v on_o the_o magistrate_n but_o as_o these_o act_n in_o a_o church-way_a can_v be_v exercise_v without_o a_o power_n of_o magistracy_n assume_v in_o this_o regard_n a_o church_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v subordinate_a to_o the_o fountain_n of_o magistracy_n for_o it_o be_v with_o these_o two_o kind_n of_o act_n in_o subordination_n to_o god_n and_o the_o magistrate_n as_o with_o the_o body_n and_o the_o soul_n for_o none_o doubt_v but_o the_o faculty_n and_o gift_n of_o reason_v apprehend_v truth_n love_v god_n and_o our_o neighbour_n believe_v in_o christ_n be_v no_o act_n subordinate_a to_o the_o power_n of_o the_o magistrate_n but_o as_o reason_v faith_n love_n must_v be_v suppose_v resident_a in_o the_o body_n of_o man_n and_o that_o the_o man_n in_o do_v act_n subordinate_a to_o the_o magistrate_n power_n as_o go_v order_v command_a and_o obey_v do_v carry_v along_o his_o reason_n faith_n and_o love_n in_o like_a manner_n as_o it_o be_v not_o possible_a to_o consider_v a_o man_n perform_v the_o act_n of_o reason_n faith_n and_o love_n and_o not_o be_v the_o while_o subordinate_a to_o the_o power_n of_o the_o magistrate_n so_o a_o church_n even_o perform_v those_o act_n of_o church-member_n as_o such_o in_o as_o much_o as_o the_o second_o kind_n of_o act_n that_o be_v subordinate_a to_o the_o magistrate_n must_v be_v join_v with_o the_o first_o can_v be_v consider_v without_o it_o be_v subordinate_a to_o the_o magistrate_n 5._o if_o the_o power_n of_o church_n be_v not_o subordinate_a to_o the_o magistrate_n many_o inconvenience_n will_v follow_v 1._o that_o some_o church_n gather_v by_o the_o magistrate_n and_o his_o act_n of_o appoint_v time_n place_n and_o stipend_n shall_v not_o be_v subordinate_a to_o he_o 2._o or_o if_o he_o shall_v gather_v none_o and_o beside_o appoint_v no_o public_a worship_n to_o take_v place_n in_o all_o part_n of_o his_o dominion_n but_o leave_v 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that_o transubstantiation_n have_v no_o ground_n in_o scripture_n cajetan_n deny_v the_o popish_a indulgence_n bellarmin_n after_o he_o have_v much_o heighten_v the_o merit_n of_o work_n conclude_v with_o a_o ●utissimum_fw-la est_fw-la and_z flieth_z to_o the_o righteousness_n of_o christ_n apprehend_v by_o faith_n as_o the_o safe_a anchor_n to_o stay_v a_o stagger_a christian_a jansenius_n be_v right_a in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o grace_n all_o the_o rest_n in_o some_o position_n or_o other_o hold_n with_o we_o and_o of_o this_o kind_n be_v bucer_n martyr_n jewel_n zanchius_n reynolds_n camero_n rivet_n and_o many_o more_o who_o beside_o by_o yield_v a_o inch_n have_v give_v we_o a_o whole_a handful_n to_o believe_v that_o what_o we_o have_v discourse_v of_o the_o nature_n of_o power_n law_n judgement_n the_o right_a of_o church_n and_o the_o magistrate_n power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n be_v both_o reason_n and_o scripture_n for_o whoever_o admit_v as_o most_o of_o these_o 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genere_fw-la conducibilia_fw-la confirmentur_fw-la vimque_fw-la legis_fw-la obtineant_fw-la be_v nempe_fw-la est_fw-la utriusque_fw-la divinae_fw-la legis_fw-la tabulae_fw-la vindex_fw-la atque_fw-la custos_fw-la ad_fw-la quem_fw-la propterea_fw-la pertinet_fw-la etiam_fw-la pastor_n si_fw-la cessent_fw-la vel_fw-la peccent_fw-la in_o officium_fw-la movere_fw-la objurgare_fw-la &_o ubi_fw-la opus_fw-la fuerit_fw-la castigare_fw-la denique_fw-la prospicere_fw-la atque_fw-la providere_fw-la ut_fw-la omne_fw-la tum_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la tum_fw-la in_o republica_fw-la seu_fw-la politia_fw-la recte_fw-la &_o ordinate_a fiant_fw-la utque_fw-la ordinis_fw-la legitime_fw-la constituti_fw-la turbatores_fw-la &_o violatores_fw-la pro_fw-la merito_fw-la puniantur_fw-la this_o he_o seem_v to_o speak_v after_o pareus_n in_o his_o miscellanea_fw-la catechetica_fw-la art_n 11._o aphoris_fw-la 18._o where_o he_o lay_v upon_o the_o magistrate_n a_o great_a duty_n in_o govern_v the_o church_n than_o 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tuo_fw-la bono_fw-mi ubi_fw-la intelligit_fw-la omne_fw-la bonum_fw-la tam_fw-la civil_a &_o terrenum_fw-la quam_fw-la ecclesiasticum_fw-la seu_fw-la spiritual_fw-la secus_fw-la namque_fw-la magistratus_fw-la homini_fw-la christiano_n non_fw-la plus_fw-la commodaret_fw-la quam_fw-la infideli_fw-la ac_fw-la sane_fw-la dolendum_fw-la est_fw-la rectius_fw-la in_o hoc_fw-la capite_fw-la sensisse_fw-la olim_fw-la ethnicos_fw-la qui_fw-la unanimi_fw-la consensu_fw-la regi_fw-la svo_fw-la demandarunt_fw-la etc._n
etc._n in_o his_o disputation_n de_fw-fr summo_fw-la controversiarum_fw-la judice_fw-la thes_n 52._o he_o say_v the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n and_o minister_n in_o deliver_v their_o judgement_n about_o controversy_n be_v mere_o declarative_a have_v no_o authority_n further_o than_o their_o reason_n be_v persuasive_a and_o convince_a in_o his_o thesis_n de_fw-fr diversis_fw-la ministrorum_fw-la evangel_n gradibus_fw-la &_o ordinibus_fw-la thes_n 2._o he_o allow_v minister_n a_o function_n but_o no_o jurisdiction_n and_o urge_v 2_o cor._n 1._o v._n 24._o not_o that_o we_o have_v dominion_n over_o your_o faith_n etc._n etc._n and_o 1_o cor._n 3._o v._n 9_o we_o be_v labourer_n together_o with_o god_n in_o his_o 2._o thesis_fw-la he_o say_v that_o jesus_n christ_n matth._n 20._o v._n 28._o take_v off_o all_o jurisdiction_n from_o the_o ministry_n in_o his_o three_o thesis_fw-la he_o say_v that_o the_o power_n of_o excommunication_n do_v no_o more_o argue_v a_o jurisdidiction_n over_o the_o flock_n then_o prescribe_v a_o diet_n to_o a_o patient_a argue_v the_o physician_n power_n jurisdiction_n command_n and_o dominion_n over_o the_o patient_a make_v the_o jurisdiction_n in_o both_o alike_o in_o these_o respect_n 1._o as_o a_o physician_n may_v suspend_v his_o own_o act_n in_o administer_a physic_n so_o the_o minister_n in_o give_v the_o eucharist_n 2._o as_o a_o physician_n inflict_v no_o censure_n upon_o the_o patient_a for_o refuse_v to_o take_v his_o physic_n only_o warn_v he_o of_o the_o hazard_n he_o run_v upon_o the_o neglect_n of_o take_v it_o so_o do_v the_o minister_n he_o that_o receive_v not_o and_o obey_v not_o the_o commandment_n of_o god_n deliver_v by_o the_o minister_n can_v be_v punish_v for_o his_o neglect_n of_o the_o tender_a of_o grace_n any_o more_o than_o a_o sick_a man_n for_o refese_v to_o take_v physic_n in_o his_o disputation_n de_fw-fr clericorum_fw-la immunitate_fw-la &_o privilegiis_fw-la thesis_fw-la 10._o he_o say_v that_o prince_n have_v power_n to_o inflict_v punishment_n upon_o transgressor_n of_o the_o law_n that_o concern_v the_o worship_n of_o god_n the_o administration_n of_o the_o sacrament_n and_o the_o doctrine_n of_o faith_n and_o beside_o that_o these_o law_n have_v no_o force_n except_o they_o be_v confirm_v and_o ratify_v by_o they_o in_o his_o 12._o thesis_fw-la he_o say_v that_o the_o law_n about_o faith_n the_o sacrament_n divine_a worship_n discipline_n and_o ecclesiastical_a order_n can_v be_v define_v or_o decree_v in_o a_o synod_n nor_o any_o controversy_n therein_o decide_v without_o the_o knowledge_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o magistrate_n if_o he_o be_v godly_a and_o christian_n as_o be_v the_o keeper_n of_o both_o table_n who_o ought_v to_o confirm_v and_o ratify_v the_o law_n agree_v on_o if_o they_o be_v just_a else_o to_o amend_v and_o correct_v they_o see_v he_o be_v the_o servant_n of_o god_n both_o for_o the_o spiritual_a and_o temporal_a good_a the_o latin_a be_v much_o more_o 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sanc●ri_fw-la debent_fw-la &_o ratae_fw-la haberi_fw-la si_fw-la minus_fw-la corrigi_fw-la ab_fw-la eo_fw-la &_o emendari_fw-la eas_fw-la oportet_fw-la siquidem_fw-la servus_n est_fw-la dei_fw-la in_o subditorum_fw-la suorum_fw-la bonum_fw-la tum_fw-la temporale_fw-la tum_fw-la spiritual_fw-la cujus_fw-la curam_fw-la &_o procurationem_fw-la pro_fw-la sibi_fw-la à_fw-la deo_fw-la demandato_fw-la munere_fw-la debet_fw-la suscipere_fw-la ac_fw-la deo_fw-la de_fw-la illa_fw-la cura_fw-la rationem_fw-la reddere_fw-la de_fw-fr clericis_fw-la lib._n 1._o cap._n 28._o propos_fw-fr 1._o in_o his_o 13._o thes_n he_o confirm_v the_o same_o by_o the_o example_n of_o the_o commonwealth_n of_o israel_n when_o the_o king_n even_o against_o the_o will_n of_o the_o priest_n do_v set_v up_o and_o order_v the_o true_a worship_n of_o god_n but_o in_o his_o 14._o thes_n he_o will_v not_o have_v this_o so_o to_o be_v take_v as_o if_o the_o faithful_a be_v to_o receive_v decree_n and_o order_n because_o 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