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rejecta_fw-la est_fw-la a_o pontificibus_fw-la the_o same_o be_v affirm_v by_o the_o annal_n of_o the_o franc_n 794._o franc_n ad_fw-la annum_fw-la 794._o by_o adhelmus_fw-la benedictinus_n in_o his_o annal_n in_o the_o same_o year_n by_o hincmarus_n rhemensis_n 20._o rhemensis_n opusc._n 55._o n._n cap._n 20._o in_o a_o epistle_n to_o hincmarus_n his_o nephew_n by_o strabus_n the_o monk_n of_o fulda_n rhegino_n prumiensis_fw-la urspergensis_n and_o hermanus_n contractus_fw-la in_o their_o annal_n and_o chronicle_n of_o the_o year_n 794._o by_o ado_n viennensis_fw-la 792._o viennensis_fw-la chron._n aetat_fw-la 6_o ad_fw-la annum_fw-la christi_fw-la eundem_fw-la &_o 792._o sed_fw-la pseudosynodus_fw-la quam_fw-la septimam_fw-la graeci_fw-la appellant_n pro_fw-la adorandis_fw-la imaginibus_fw-la abdicata_fw-la penitus_fw-la the_o same_o be_v affirm_v by_o the_o annal_n of_o eginhardus_fw-la annum_fw-la eginhardus_fw-la ad_fw-la eund_n annum_fw-la and_o by_o aimoinus_n 85._o aimoinus_n 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p._n sub_fw-la helena_n &_o constantino_n filio_fw-la ejus_fw-la congregata_fw-la &_o ab_fw-la ipsis_fw-la non_fw-la tantum_fw-la septima_fw-la verum_fw-la etiam_fw-la universalis_fw-la est_fw-la appellata_fw-la ut_fw-la nec_fw-la septima_fw-la nec_fw-la universalis_fw-la diceretur_fw-la habereturque_fw-la quasi_fw-la supervacua_fw-la in_fw-la totum_fw-la ab_fw-la omnibus_fw-la abdicata_fw-la est_fw-la 3._o now_o for_o the_o three_o thing_n which_o the_o dissuasive_a say_v that_o they_o publish_v a_o book_n under_o the_o name_n of_o the_o emperor_n i_o be_o to_o answer_v that_o such_o a_o book_n about_o that_o time_n within_o three_o or_o four_o year_n of_o it_o be_v publish_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o emperor_n be_v notorious_o know_v and_o there_o be_v great_a reason_n to_o believe_v it_o be_v write_v three_o or_o four_o year_n before_o the_o synod_n and_o send_v by_o the_o emperor_n to_o the_o pope_n but_o that_o divers_a of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n do_v endeavour_v to_o 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objector_n take_v no_o notice_n of_o as_o know_v it_o will_v reproach_v he_o too_o plain_o see_v the_o word_n the_o artificer_n of_o statue_n and_o image_n and_o all_o kind_n of_o representation_n simulachrorum_fw-la diabolum_fw-la soeculo_fw-la intulisse_fw-la artifices_fw-la statuarum_fw-la &_o imaginum_fw-la &_o omnis_fw-la generis_fw-la simulachrorum_fw-la the_o devil_n bring_v into_o the_o world_n and_o when_o he_o have_v give_v the_o etymology_n of_o a_o idol_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v formula_fw-la he_o add_v igitur_fw-la omnis_fw-la forma_fw-la vel_fw-la formula_fw-la idolum_fw-la se_fw-la dici_fw-la exposcit_fw-la ind_n omnis_fw-la idoli_fw-la artifex_fw-la ejusdem_fw-la &_o unius_fw-la est_fw-la criminis_fw-la and_o a_o little_a before_o exinde_fw-la jam_fw-la caput_fw-la facta_fw-la est_fw-la idololatriae_fw-la ars_fw-la omnis_fw-la quae_fw-la idolum_fw-la quoquo_fw-la modo_fw-la edit_fw-la and_o in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o four_o chapter_n idolum_fw-la tam_fw-la fieri_fw-la quam_fw-la coli_fw-la deus_fw-la prohibet_fw-la quanto_fw-la praecedit_fw-la ut_fw-la fiat_fw-la quod_fw-la coli_fw-la possit_fw-la tanto_fw-la prius_fw-la est_fw-la ne_fw-la fiat_fw-la si_fw-la coli_fw-la non_fw-la licet_fw-la and_o again_o toto_fw-la mundo_fw-la ejusmodi_fw-la artibus_fw-la interdixit_fw-la seruis_fw-la dei_fw-la and_o a_o little_a after_o he_o bring_v in_o some_o or_o other_o object_v sed_fw-la ait_fw-la quidam_fw-la adversus_fw-la similitudinis_fw-la interdictae_fw-la propositionem_fw-la cur_n ergo_fw-la moses_n in_fw-la eremo_fw-la simulachrum_fw-la serpentis_fw-la ex_fw-la aere_fw-la fecit_fw-la to_o this_o at_o last_o he_o answer_v si_fw-mi eundem_fw-la deum_fw-la observas_fw-la habes_fw-la legem_fw-la ejus_fw-la ne_fw-la feceris_fw-la similitudinem_fw-la si_fw-la &_o praeceptum_fw-la factae_fw-la postea_fw-la similitudinis_fw-la respicis_fw-la &_o tu_fw-la imitare_fw-la moysen_n ne_fw-fr facias_fw-la adversus_fw-la legem_fw-la 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