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which_o you_o engross_v and_o appropriate_v to_o yourselves_o as_o we_o have_v former_o see_v 3._o if_o so_o than_o your_o presbyterial_a assembly_n or_o judge_v church_n may_v determine_v and_o judge_v amiss_o and_o if_o so_o 1._o how_o dare_v you_o compel_v or_o make_v the_o people_n under_o your_o government_n to_o swear_v obedience_n or_o subjection_n unto_o your_o order_n which_o yet_o by_o your_o own_o confession_n pag._n 42_o ordinary_o you_o do_v 2._o why_o be_v you_o not_o satisfy_v with_o that_o subjection_n to_o your_o presbyterial_a decision_n which_o plead_v no_o exemption_n but_o only_o in_o the_o case_n of_o non-satisfaction_n about_o the_o lawfulness_n or_o truth_n of_o they_o you_o give_v man_n a_o good_a foundation_n a_o liberty_n to_o believe_v that_o you_o may_v err_v but_o you_o will_v not_o suffer_v they_o to_o build_v upon_o it_o to_o refuse_v you_o when_o they_o think_v in_o their_o soul_n and_o conscience_n that_o that_o you_o do_v err_v they_o that_o will_v separate_v between_o such_o premise_n and_o such_o conclusion_n will_v hardly_o make_v good_a christian_n themselves_o or_o suffer_v other_o so_o to_o be_v and_o if_o you_o be_v but_o ingenuous_o willing_a to_o go_v along_o with_o this_o your_o own_o principle_n that_o you_o may_v err_v as_o far_o as_o it_o will_v glad_o lead_v you_o i_o think_v i_o dare_v undertake_v that_o the_o apologist_n and_o you_o shall_v compromise_n before_o to_o morrow_n next_o 4._o and_o last_o if_o party_n may_v have_v cause_n to_o be_v offend_v and_o not_o sect._n 8_o only_o pretend_v to_o be_v offend_v as_o a._n s._n will_v mind_v it_o with_o the_o church_n as_o out_o of_o all_o question_n they_o may_v if_o the_o church_n may_v judge_v amiss_o then_o have_v they_o power_n to_o judge_v of_o their_o action_n as_o well_o as_o they_o of_o they_o no_o man_n be_v justifiable_a in_o his_o complaint_n or_o offence_n take_v but_o he_o that_o have_v a_o power_n to_o examine_v and_o judge_v of_o that_o which_o give_v the_o cause_n or_o minister_v the_o occasion_n of_o the_o offence_n and_o if_o a_o single_a party_n which_o be_v no_o presbyter_n or_o prophet_n in_o your_o sense_n have_v a_o lawful_a power_n to_o examine_v and_o judge_v of_o the_o act_n and_o order_n of_o a_o presbyterial_a or_o prophetical_a assembly_n and_o may_v possible_o by_o mean_n of_o such_o a_o examination_n take_v they_o tardy_a do_v not_o so_o far_o magnify_v the_o spirit_n of_o your_o prophet_n against_o the_o spirit_n of_o our_o saint_n as_o to_o think_v these_o good_a for_o nothing_o but_o to_o swear_v homage_n and_o vassalage_n unto_o they_o but_o a._n s._n sure_o please_v himself_o high_o with_o a_o parcel_n of_o distinction_n sect._n 9_o which_o he_o present_v we_o within_o the_o prementioned_a description_n and_o hope_n perhaps_o to_o make_v a_o atonement_n with_o they_o for_o his_o confusion_n otherwise_o first_o he_o distinguish_v of_o that_o executive_a coercive_a power_n wherewith_o he_o invest_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n as_o not_o be_v in_o or_o intrinsical_v unto_o the_o church_n but_o external_a and_o about_o the_o church_n second_o he_o distinguish_v the_o subject_a capable_a of_o this_o power_n the_o civil_a magistrate_n into_o true_o christian_n and_o not_o true_o christian_n three_o upon_o this_o distinction_n he_o build_v a_o three_o distinction_n concern_v the_o manner_n of_o the_o competency_n of_o this_o power_n to_o the_o one_o kind_n of_o subject_n and_o the_o other_o tell_v we_o that_o this_o power_n or_o authority_n belong_v actual_o and_o in_o effect_n in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la &_o jure_v in_o re_fw-la to_o true_a christian_a magistrate_n but_o to_o other_o potential_o in_o actu_fw-la signato_fw-la and_o jure_v in_o rem_fw-la only_o till_o they_o become_v true_a christian_n the_o man_n you_o see_v have_v much_o ado_n to_o find_v or_o come_v at_o that_o power_n sect._n 10_o wherewith_o he_o will_v so_o fain_o gratify_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n he_o adjure_v three_o unclean_a spirit_n of_o distinction_n to_o tell_v he_o what_o and_o where_o it_o be_v and_o yet_o they_o do_v but_o peep_v and_o matter_n in_o their_o answer_n and_o make_v no_o man_n the_o wise_a by_o it_o here_o he_o seek_v for_o the_o coercive_a power_n of_o the_o civil_a magistrate_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n in_o the_o same_o black_a sea_n of_o darkness_n and_o confusion_n wherein_o he_o seek_v and_o will_v make_v the_o world_n believe_v he_o find_v the_o presbyterian_a government_n afterward_o but_o if_o the_o one_o and_o the_o other_o be_v close_v up_o in_o such_o a_o ammunition_n of_o rock_n of_o distinction_n as_o a._n s._n represent_v they_o in_o his_o story_n certain_o they_o be_v inaccessible_a to_o the_o judgement_n and_o conscience_n of_o person_n of_o mean_a capacity_n and_o much_o more_o inaccessible_a to_o the_o judgement_n and_o conscience_n of_o more_o understanding_n and_o consider_v man_n the_o very_a darkness_n itself_o of_o the_o distinction_n which_o he_o be_v necessitate_v to_o use_v to_o make_v his_o way_n to_o come_v at_o the_o one_o and_o at_o the_o other_o be_v a_o light_n sufficient_a to_o discover_v that_o neither_o the_o one_o nor_o the_o other_o be_v any_o where_o to_o be_v find_v within_o the_o territory_n either_o of_o reason_n or_o of_o truth_n but_o let_v we_o see_v the_o distinction_n play_v a_o little_a before_o we_o for_o their_o master_n credit_n for_o the_o first_o the_o magistrate_n power_n say_v he_o viz._n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n for_o so_o he_o must_v necessary_o be_v understand_v by_o the_o antithesis_fw-la in_o the_o former_a clause_n or_o member_n of_o this_o distinction_n where_o he_o deny_v a_o directive_n power_n unto_o he_o in_o matter_n of_o religion_n be_v not_o in_o or_o intrinsical_v to_o the_o church_n but_o extrinsecall_v and_o about_o the_o church_n be_v it_o in_o i._o intrinsical_v to_o matter_n of_o religion_n and_o but_o extrinsecall_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o church_n so_o then_o it_o seem_v a._n s._n his_o presbyterial_a church_n be_v somewhat_o more_o inward_a intimate_a and_o intrinsical_v than_o the_o religion_n of_o this_o church_n otherwise_o how_o shall_v the_o power_n of_o the_o magistrate_n penetrate_v into_o the_o religion_n thereof_o and_o yet_o not_o reach_v into_o but_o only_o unto_o the_o church_n itself_o by_o this_o distinction_n he_o have_v utter_o disgrace_v his_o presbyterial_a government_n by_o make_v the_o church_n under_o it_o more_o internal_a and_o inward_a than_o the_o religion_n that_o be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o they_o if_o the_o apologist_n have_v but_o whisper_v one_o tittle_n of_o such_o a_o say_n though_o at_o never_o such_o a_o distance_n it_o have_v be_v enough_o to_o have_v produce_v seven_o reason_n more_o at_o least_o against_o their_o toleration_n then_o be_v yet_o levy_v or_o bring_v forth_o into_o the_o world_n but_o 2_o though_o you_o seem_v to_o deal_v very_o bountiful_o with_o the_o magistrate_n sect._n 11_o in_o give_v he_o a_o power_n extrinsecall_v and_o about_o the_o church_n and_o to_o content_v yourself_o and_o your_o compresbyter_n with_o a_o intrinsical_a power_n only_o yet_o by_o somewhat_o that_o have_v be_v late_o print_v it_o appear_v that_o you_o mean_v to_o eat_v at_o the_o same_o table_n with_o he_o which_o you_o pretend_v to_o spread_v for_o he_o alone_o for_o have_v not_o the_o press_n very_o late_o be_v deliver_v of_o this_o piece_n of_o presbytery_n that_o the_o classical_a presbytery_n have_v 23._o reformation_n clear_v p._n 23._o the_o authoritative_a power_n of_o citation_n just_a as_o the_o bishop_n have_v and_o be_v not_o such_o a_o power_n external_a and_o which_o be_v not_o in_o but_o about_o the_o church_n for_o if_o a_o classis_fw-la shall_v cite_v or_o excommunicate_v a_o member_n of_o a_o church_n against_o the_o judgement_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o elder_n of_o that_o church_n let_v all_o the_o world_n
judge_n whether_o that_o be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o external_a power_n without_o the_o church_n if_o it_o be_v reply_v no_o because_o that_o church_n do_v implicit_o consent_v in_o yield_v their_o elder_n for_o member_n of_o that_o presbytery_n we_o reply_v that_o if_o either_o your_o public_a law_n constrain_v that_o church_n upon_o penalty_n eth._n invitum_fw-la dicitur_fw-la quod_fw-la quis_fw-la vel_fw-la coactus_fw-la vel_fw-la per_fw-la ignorantiam_fw-la admittit_fw-la arist_n eth._n l._n 3._o c._n 1._o kecker_n praecog_n sy_v eth._n against_o their_o light_n to_o suffer_v their_o elder_n to_o sit_v in_o the_o classical_a presbytery_n than_o that_o church_n do_v not_o free_o consent_v or_o if_o that_o church_n without_o constraint_n do_v consent_n for_o want_v of_o light_n as_o it_o must_v be_v suppose_v if_o a_o classis_fw-la upon_o debate_n be_v find_v to_o be_v beside_o the_o word_n this_o ignorant_a act_n of_o that_o church_n be_v a_o unwilling_a or_o involuntary_a act_n and_o so_o no_o free_a consent_n and_o so_o the_o classis_fw-la according_a to_o a._n s._n his_o distinction_n be_v like_o a_o magistrate_n which_o be_v a_o bishop_n without_o and_o about_o that_o church_n but_o good_a a._n s._n we_o know_v it_o be_v a_o easy_a matter_n to_o distinguish_v the_o magistrate_n sect._n 12_o into_o such_o a_o executive_a coercitive_a external_a power_n as_o you_o speak_v of_o but_o we_o will_v fain_o see_v you_o demonstrate_v he_o into_o it_o and_o then_o a._n s._n and_o m._n s._n shall_v be_v no_o more_o two_o but_o one_o s._n we_o know_v not_o how_o to_o transform_v distinction_n into_o demonstration_n his_o second_o distinction_n be_v of_o the_o subject_a of_o this_o power_n the_o magistrate_n who_o he_o make_v twofold_a true_o christian_a and_o not_o true_o christian_n but_o 1._o i_o will_v fain_o know_v by_o what_o touchstone_n a._n s._n will_v try_v his_o gold_n in_o this_o case_n i_o mean_v judge_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o christianity_n in_o a_o magistrate_n it_o appear_v from_o page_n 50._o of_o his_o discourse_n that_o he_o have_v no_o mind_n to_o grant_v his_o truth_n of_o christianity_n unto_o a_o magistrate_n that_o be_v either_o lutheran_n anabaptist_n socinian_n or_o papist_n any_o of_o these_o misprision_n in_o christianity_n be_v as_o sufficient_a in_o a._n s._n his_o judgement_n as_o in_o we_o to_o keep_v the_o sword_n of_o that_o power_n we_o speak_v of_o out_o of_o the_o magistrate_n hand_n and_o as_o for_o a_o magistrate_n who_o judgement_n shall_v be_v infect_v perfect_v reason_n and_o truth_n will_v say_v with_o apologisme_n or_o the_o great_a hatred_n of_o his_o soul_n independency_n i_o make_v no_o question_n but_o he_o in_o the_o comic_a term_n shall_v be_v exclusissimus_fw-la from_o this_o capacity_n or_o right_n above_o all_o the_o rest_n but_o let_v we_o go_v on_o with_o the_o man_n in_o the_o term_n of_o his_o own_o address_n to_o sect._n 13_o the_o apologist_n in_o the_o same_o place_n if_o he_o say_v that_o by_o a_o magistrate_n true_o christian_n he_o understand_v a_o orthodox_n magistrate_n what_o if_o he_o have_v one_o or_o two_o error_n will_v he_o yet_o permit_v he_o to_o be_v orthodox_n and_o true_o christian_a or_o not_o till_o a._n s._n here_o specify_v sermon_n generales_fw-la non_fw-la movent_fw-la his_fw-la own_o rule_n for_o myself_o until_o i_o shall_v be_v otherwise_o inform_v by_o himself_o i_o shall_v make_v use_n of_o my_o reason_n to_o believe_v that_o by_o a_o magistrate_n true_o christian_n a._n s._n only_a meanâ—_n a_o magistrate_n who_o in_o his_o judgement_n be_v presbyterial_a and_o that_o this_o qualification_n of_o presbyterialisme_n and_o truth_n of_o christianity_n in_o a_o magistrate_n be_v against_o all_o contradiction_n and_o counter-poysings_a whatsoever_o termini_fw-la aequipollentes_fw-la in_o his_o logic_n and_o if_o this_o be_v his_o meaning_n the_o king_n to_o be_v sure_a have_v none_o of_o his_o power_n as_o yet_o in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la and_o jure_v in_o re_fw-la nor_o have_v the_o parliament_n at_o least_o for_o aught_o a._n s._n or_o the_o kingdom_n know_v any_o whit_n more_o of_o it_o then_o the_o king_n and_o whatsoever_o it_o have_v do_v hitherto_o by_o any_o executive_a coercive_a external_a power_n about_o the_o church_n or_o church-affair_n in_o which_o kind_n it_o have_v do_v very_o much_o depend_v as_o touch_v the_o validity_n and_o justifiableness_n of_o it_o upon_o this_o supposition_n that_o it_o presbyterialize_v whence_o it_o follow_v that_o he_o that_o can_v or_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o the_o parliament_n be_v of_o a_o classic_a inclination_n can_v with_o the_o leave_n of_o a._n s._n his_o distinction_n judge_v they_o to_o have_v do_v lawful_o or_o warrantable_o any_o thing_n that_o they_o have_v do_v hitherto_o about_o or_o for_o the_o church_n the_o truth_n be_v that_o till_o a._n s._n will_v please_v to_o define_v what_o manner_n of_o magistrate_n he_o must_v be_v that_o shall_v pass_v the_o test_n of_o his_o distinction_n for_o true_o christian_a we_o be_v constrain_v to_o suspend_v our_o bounty_n in_o confer_v that_o executive_a coercive_a external_a power_n about_o the_o church_n upon_o any_o man_n nor_o do_v i_o make_v much_o question_n but_o that_o we_o shall_v have_v twenty_o distinction_n more_o before_o we_o shall_v obtain_v that_o definition_n but_o of_o all_o the_o three_o distinction_n here_o upon_o the_o stage_n the_o best_a dancer_n sect._n 14_o be_v yet_o behind_o this_o power_n or_o authority_n say_v he_o belong_v actual_o and_o in_o effect_n in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la &_o jure_v in_o re_fw-la it_o be_v very_o long_a i_o think_v ere_o we_o hear_v to_o who_o it_o belong_v to_o true_a christian_a magistrate_n but_o to_o other_o potential_o in_o actu_fw-la signato_fw-la &_o jure_v in_o rem_fw-la only_o until_o they_o become_v true_o christian_n 1._o though_o i_o have_v many_o time_n hear_v of_o the_o distinction_n in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la &_o in_o actu_fw-la signato_fw-la yet_o i_o never_o hear_v of_o any_o thing_n belong_v to_o a_o person_n in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la but_o that_o belong_v to_o he_o and_o that_o per_fw-la prius_fw-la in_fw-la actu_fw-la signato_fw-la he_o to_o who_o the_o principle_n or_o power_n of_o act_v do_v not_o belong_v can_v stand_v engage_v for_o the_o exercise_n or_o act_n of_o such_o a_o power_n 2._o my_o soul_n belong_v for_o the_o summer_n fruit_n of_o a_o good_a reason_n from_o a._n s._n sect._n 15_o why_o any_o power_n about_o the_o church_n and_o for_o the_o church_n shall_v not_o belong_v actual_o and_o in_o effect_n in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la &_o jure_v in_o re_fw-la and_o with_o as_o many_o other_o proper_a unproper_a necessary_a unnecessary_a sober_a ridiculous_a expression_n as_o he_o please_v as_o well_o to_o a_o magistrate_n not_o yet_o true_o christian_n as_o to_o he_o that_o be_v such_o have_v not_o a_o heathen_a or_o heterodox_n magistrate_n a_o lawfulness_n of_o power_n to_o 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