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ardent_a and_o continual_a prayer_n for_o his_o guidance_n to_o lead_v into_o all_o truth_n this_o church_n i_o say_v be_v yet_o fallible_a may_v affirm_v and_o teach_v false_a i._n e._n this_o be_v natural_o possible_a that_o it_o may_v but_o it_o be_v not_o strong_o probable_a that_o it_o will_v as_o long_o as_o it_o be_v thus_o assist_v and_o dispose_v to_o make_v use_n of_o these_o assistance_n and_o mean_n of_o true_a define_n num._n 15_o 2._o that_o church_n knowledge_n whether_o it_o define_v true_o or_o no_o in_o any_o proposition_n may_v signify_v no_o more_o than_o a_o full_a persuasion_n or_o belief_n cui_fw-la non_fw-la subest_fw-la dubium_fw-la wherein_o they_o neither_o doubt_v nor_o apprehend_v reason_n of_o doubt_v that_o what_o they_o define_v be_v the_o very_a truth_n though_o for_o knowledge_n proper_o so_o call_v or_o assurance_n cui_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la subesse_fw-la falsum_fw-la which_o be_v unerrable_a or_o infallible_a in_o strictness_n of_o speech_n it_o may_v not_o have_v attain_v or_o pretend_v to_o have_v attain_v to_o it_o num._n 16_o 3._o by_o power_n to_o bind_v may_v be_v mean_v no_o more_o than_o authority_n derive_v to_o they_o from_o the_o apostle_n of_o christ_n to_o make_v decision_n when_o difficulty_n arise_v to_o prescribe_v rule_n for_o ceremony_n or_o government_n such_o as_o shall_v oblige_v inferior_n to_o due_a observance_n and_o obedience_n by_o force_n of_o the_o apostle_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d his_o precept_n to_o obey_v the_o ruler_n set_v over_o we_o in_o the_o church_n which_o we_o may_v do_v without_o think_v they_o simple_o or_o by_o any_o promise_n of_o god_n inerrable_a or_o infallible_a as_o the_o obedience_n which_o be_v due_a to_o civil_a magistrate_n which_o suppose_v in_o they_o a_o power_n of_o bind_v subject_n to_o obey_v do_v yet_o no_o way_n suppose_v or_o imply_v they_o uncapable_a of_o err_v and_o sin_v and_o give_v unreasonable_a command_n and_o such_o as_o wherein_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o yield_v obedience_n to_o they_o num._n 17_o beside_o this_o there_o may_v far_o be_v mean_v by_o it_o a_o general_a obligation_n that_o lie_v on_o all_o man_n to_o believe_v what_o be_v with_o due_a ground_n of_o conviction_n propose_v to_o they_o such_o as_o the_o disbelieving_a or_o doubt_v of_o it_o shall_v be_v in_o they_o inseparable_a from_o obstinacy_n and_o this_o obligation_n be_v again_o the_o great_a when_o that_o which_o be_v thus_o convince_o propose_v be_v propose_v by_o our_o superior_n from_o who_o mouth_n it_o be_v regular_a to_o seek_v and_o receive_v god_n will_n num._n 18_o last_o believe_v may_v signify_v not_o a_o implicit_a irrational_a blind_a but_o a_o well-grounded_n rational_a explicit_a belief_n of_o that_o which_o as_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n be_v due_o propose_v to_o we_o or_o again_o where_o there_o be_v not_o that_o degree_n of_o manifestation_n yet_o a_o consent_n to_o that_o which_o be_v propose_v as_o most_o probable_a on_o the_o 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require_v of_o he_o quiet_o enjoy_v his_o contrary_a opinion_n and_o this_o may_v tend_v as_o much_o to_o the_o peace_n and_o unity_n of_o a_o church_n as_o the_o persuasion_n of_o the_o inerrability_n thereof_o can_v be_v suppose_v to_o do_v num._n 20_o by_o this_o view_n of_o the_o latitude_n of_o these_o term_n and_o the_o limitation_n they_o be_v capable_a of_o it_o be_v now_o not_o so_o difficult_a to_o discern_v in_o what_o sense_n the_o proposition_n under_o consideration_n be_v false_a and_o in_o what_o sense_n it_o be_v true_a and_o by_o we_o acknowledge_v to_o be_v so_o num._n 21_o a_o congregation_n that_o be_v fallible_a and_o have_v no_o knowledge_n or_o assurance_n cui_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la subesse_fw-la falsum_fw-la that_o it_o be_v not_o deceive_v in_o any_o particular_a proposition_n may_v yet_o have_v authority_n to_o make_v decision_n etc._n etc._n and_o to_o require_v inferior_n so_o far_o to_o acquiesce_v to_o their_o determination_n as_o not_o to_o disquiet_v the_o peace_n of_o that_o church_n with_o their_o contrary_a opinion_n num._n 22_o but_o for_o any_o absolute_a infallible_a belief_n or_o consent_n that_o no_o church_n which_o be_v not_o itself_o absolute_o infallible_a and_o which_o do_v not_o infallible_o know_v that_o it_o be_v infallible_a have_v power_n to_o require_v of_o any_o num._n 23_o by_o this_o it_o appear_v in_o the_o next_o place_n in_o what_o sense_n it_o be_v true_a which_o in_o the_o follow_a word_n be_v suggest_v of_o protestant_n that_o they_o bind_v man_n to_o a_o profession_n of_o faith_n and_o how_o injust_o it_o be_v add_v that_o suppose_v they_o not_o to_o be_v infallibe_n it_o be_v unjust_a tyrannical_a and_o self-condemnation_n to_o the_o binder_n the_o contrary_a whereto_o be_v most_o evident_a understand_v the_o obligation_n with_o that_o temper_n and_o the_o infallibility_n in_o that_o notion_n wherein_o it_o be_v evident_a we_o understand_v
of_o schism_n and_o such_o as_o all_o time_n be_v capable_a of_o and_o enlarge_v not_o to_o those_o other_o of_o accidental_a emergency_n 3._o because_o they_o be_v now_o moral_o impossible_a to_o be_v have_v the_o christian_a world_n be_v under_o so_o many_o empire_n and_o divide_v into_o so_o many_o communion_n that_o it_o be_v not_o visible_a to_o the_o eye_n of_o man_n how_o they_o shall_v be_v regular_o assemble_v num._n 13_o as_o for_o those_o that_o be_v already_o past_a and_o be_v on_o due_a ground_n to_o be_v acknowledge_v true_o ecumenical_a the_o communion_n which_o be_v possible_a to_o be_v have_v or_o break_v with_o they_o be_v that_o of_o compliance_n with_o or_o recession_n from_o their_o definition_n and_o our_o innocence_n in_o that_o respect_n be_v avow_v p._n 160._o as_o the_o congregate_a of_o the_o like_a when_o possible_a and_o probable_a towards_o the_o end_n be_v recommend_v p._n 158._o as_o a_o supply_n when_o there_o shall_v be_v need_n of_o extraordinary_a 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at_o this_o day_n be_v without_o question_n no_o ecumenical_a council_n num._n 16_o and_o then_o what_o authority_n scatter_v member_n can_v have_v which_o never_o legal_o command_v or_o exercise_v authority_n but_o when_o they_o be_v in_o conjunction_n i_o shall_v not_o here_o make_v stay_v to_o demonstrate_v whatsoever_o there_o be_v of_o this_o nature_n will_v most_o proper_o be_v comprise_v under_o the_o head_n of_o communion_n or_o unity_n fraternal_a and_o the_o schism_n which_o be_v a_o transgression_n of_o that_o be_v at_o large_a handle_v also_o chap._n 8._o 9_o 10._o there_o be_v no_o insufficiency_n in_o any_o justice_n to_o be_v charge_v on_o this_o division_n sect._n ii_o of_o the_o extent_n of_o the_o roman_a province_n the_o bishop_n of_o italy_n distinct_a from_o those_o that_o belong_v to_o rome_n the_o ecclesiastical_a distribution_n agreeable_a with_o the_o civil_a ruffinus_n vindicate_v num._n 1_o the_o second_o charge_n on_o this_o chapter_n be_v about_o the_o extent_n of_o the_o roman_a patriarchie_n in_o these_o word_n num._n 2_o in_o this_o chap_n he_o tell_v we_o many_o thing_n some_o true_a some_o not_o so_o but_o all_o either_o common_a to_o we_o both_o or_o not_o appertain_v to_o the_o controversy_n until_o he_o conclude_v that_o certain_o the_o roman_a patriarchie_n do_v not_o extend_v itself_o to_o all_o italy_n and_o this_o he_o do_v out_o of_o a_o word_n in_o ruffinus_n which_o he_o suppose_v to_o be_v take_v in_o a_o special_a propriety_n of_o law_n whereas_o indeed_o that_o author_n knowledge_n in_o grammar_n be_v not_o such_o as_o shall_v necessary_o exact_v any_o such_o belief_n especial_o learned_a man_n say_v the_o contrary_a num._n 3_o the_o place_n to_o which_o this_o exception_n belong_v be_v not_o set_v down_o by_o this_o gentleman_n but_o by_o annex_v the_o testimony_n out_o of_o ruffinus_n i_o discern_v it_o to_o be_v that_o of_o pag._n 52._o where_o speak_v of_o the_o picenum_n suburbicarium_fw-la and_o annonarium_fw-la i_o say_v the_o former_a belong_v to_o the_o praefecture_n of_o rome_n the_o latter_a with_o the_o seven_o province_n in_o the_o broad_a part_n of_o italy_n belong_v to_o the_o diocese_n as_o it_o be_v ancient_o call_v of_o italy_n of_o which_o milan_n be_v the_o metropolis_n num._n 4_o this_o be_v the_o affirmation_n which_o he_o except_v against_o i_o do_v not_o nor_o yet_o do_v make_v any_o question_n of_o vindicate_v and_o defend_v it_o against_o any_o objection_n num._n 5_o that_o learned_a man_n say_v the_o contrary_a be_v here_o suggest_v in_o the_o close_a but_o as_o there_o be_v not_o one_o learned_a man_n name_v nor_o testimony_n produce_v which_o therefore_o amount_v no_o high_a than_o the_o bare_a opinion_n or_o affirmation_n of_o this_o one_o gentleman_n without_o any_o one_o reason_n or_o authority_n to_o support_v it_o so_o when_o any_o such_o learned_a man_n name_n and_o testimony_n shall_v be_v produce_v it_o will_v be_v easy_a to_o show_v that_o 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who_o the_o bishop_n through_o italy_n and_o the_o city_n of_o the_o roman_n shall_v decree_v it_o num._n 8_o the_o like_a be_v that_o of_o the_o council_n of_o sardice_n set_v down_o in_o 756._o athanasius_n in_o the_o title_n of_o their_o epistle_n to_o the_o alexandrian_n thus_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n the_o holy_a synod_n by_o god_n grace_n assemble_v at_o sardice_n from_o rome_n and_o spain_n france_n italy_n etc._n etc._n num._n 9_o so_o in_o c._n athanasius_n declaration_n of_o his_o own_o affair_n and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d agreement_n of_o many_o bishop_n with_o he_o he_o specify_v who_o and_o how_o many_o they_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n there_o be_v more_o than_o four_o hundred_o both_o from_o great_a rome_n and_o from_o all_o italy_n and_o from_o calabria_n etc._n etc._n where_o the_o bishop_n of_o the_o roman_a province_n be_v distinguish_v from_o the_o bishop_n of_o italy_n as_o those_o again_o from_o the_o bishop_n of_o calabria_n etc._n etc._n num._n 10_o so_o among_o the_o name_n prefix_v to_o the_o 266._o first_o council_n of_o arles_n we_o have_v ex_fw-la provinciâ_fw-la italiae_fw-la civitate_fw-la mediclanensi_fw-la etc._n etc._n ex_fw-la urbe_fw-la româ_fw-la quos_fw-la sylvester_n episcopus_fw-la misit_fw-la ex_fw-la provinciâ_fw-la romanâ_fw-la civitate_fw-la portuensi_fw-la etc._n etc._n of_o the_o province_n of_o italy_n from_o the_o city_n of_o milan_n etc._n etc._n from_o the_o city_n of_o rome_n those_o who_o bishop_n sylvester_n send_v of_o the_o province_n of_o rome_n from_o the_o city_n of_o porta_n etc._n etc._n such_o and_o such_o be_v assemble_v at_o that_o council_n where_o again_o the_o matter_n be_v clear_a as_o to_o the_o distinction_n of_o those_o province_n of_o rome_n and_o italy_n the_o former_a under_o the_o presidency_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n the_o late_a of_o the_o bishop_n of_o milan_n num._n 11_o by_o
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one_o body_n and_o therefore_o this_o authority_n and_o privilege_n of_o s._n peter_n can_v rest_v and_o be_v no_o where_o but_o where_o he_o die_v num._n 3_o in_o this_o matter_n i_o must_v first_o premise_v what_o i_o have_v warn_v the_o reader_n of_o in_o that_o 5_o chap._n §_o 2._o that_o what_o i_o there_o produce_v against_o the_o power_n of_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n under_o the_o notion_n of_o successor_n to_o s._n peter_n be_v perfect_o ex_fw-la abundanti_fw-la more_o than_o need_v the_o whole_a matter_n be_v sufficient_o conclude_v in_o the_o former_a chapter_n which_o concern_v s._n peter_n person_n and_o have_v show_v that_o s._n peter_n himself_o have_v no_o universal_a pastorship_n belong_v to_o he_o or_o supremacy_n over_o any_o other_o apostle_n from_o whence_o it_o be_v evident_o consequent_a that_o to_o his_o successor_n as_o such_o no_o such_o power_n pertain_v num._n 4_o this_o be_v premise_v i_o do_v not_o pretend_v that_o what_o shall_v then_o follow_v shall_v 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