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A90624 A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk. Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711. 1659 (1659) Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138 152,808 253

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out_o of_o the_o world_n else_o the_o world_n will_v not_o hate_v they_o they_o be_v all_o gather_v unto_o christ_n gen._n 49._o 10._o the_o particular_a church_n be_v a_o particular_a assembly_n or_o a_o society_n of_o man_n assemble_v together_o for_o the_o celebration_n of_o ordinance_n according_a to_o christ_n appointment_n not_o that_o their_o assemble_v thereunto_o constitute_v they_o a_o church_n but_o it_o be_v a_o main_a end_n of_o their_o union_n and_o the_o fruit_n issue_n and_o manifestation_n of_o their_o constitution_n by_o such_o union_n the_o meeting_n of_o the_o jewish_a church_n at_o appoint_a time_n be_v as_o extensive_a as_o the_o church_n itself_o wherefore_o we_o yet_o conclude_v if_o no_o national_a meeting_n no_o national_a church_n if_o no_o universal_a meeting_n no_o universal_a church_n entrust_v with_o the_o administration_n of_o ordinance_n according_a to_o the_o mind_n of_o christ._n 4._o there_o be_v no_o distinct_a officer_n appoint_v for_o such_o a_o church_n ergo_fw-la no_o such_o church_n exc._n dr._n col._n no_o need_n of_o distinct_a officer_n because_o the_o officer_n of_o particular_a congregation_n which_o as_o part_n constitute_v the_o whole_a have_v power_n to_o act_v as_o officer_n in_o any_o of_o those_o part_n which_o unite_v make_v up_o that_o whole_a the_o church_n be_v one_o body_n and_o as_o it_o be_v una_fw-la so_o it_o be_v unita_fw-la in_o one_o common_a profession_n etc._n etc._n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n mr._n h._n every_o minister_n have_v a_o indefinite_a office_n which_o be_v equivalent_a to_o a_o general_n every_o minister_n have_v power_n in_o actu_fw-la primo_fw-la to_o dispense_v the_o word_n in_o any_o sacred_a convention_n and_o though_o not_o a_o actual_a officer_n of_o the_o whole_a yet_o have_v a_o habitual_a power_n etc._n etc._n answ_n it_o can_v be_v deny_v but_o in_o all_o civil_a policy_n our_o argument_n stand_v good_a no_o great_a body_n be_v make_v up_o of_o lesser_a but_o it_o have_v a_o great_a authority_n distinct_a in_o law_n and_o government_n from_o the_o lesser_a divers_a town_n unite_v into_o one_o hundred_o divers_a hundred_o into_o one_o county_n diverse_a county_n into_o one_o commonwealth_n be_v in_o their_o several_a subordination_n distinguish_v by_o several_a act_n and_o officer_n appoint_v unto_o they_o if_o diverse_a church_n be_v unite_v into_o one_o church_n sure_o it_o will_v be_v so_o also_o in_o the_o jewish_a polity_n it_o be_v so_o beside_o the_o ruler_n of_o the_o synagogue_n beside_o the_o priest_n and_o levite_n through_o every_o tribe_n disperse_v there_o be_v a_o great_a authority_n distinct_a in_o law_n and_o government_n in_o order_n and_o ministration_n from_o they_o viz._n the_o high_a priest_n who_o know_v not_o that_o a_o church_n catholic_n visible_a entrust_v with_o the_o administration_n of_o ordi_fw-la nance_n bath_n be_v hot_o contend_v for_o by_o the_o papist_n as_o a_o fit_a body_n for_o the_o pope_n their_o head_n but_o as_o earnest_o contend_v against_o by_o the_o reform_a they_o see_v no_o truth_n in_o what_o dr._n c._n affirm_v viz._n that_o a_o church_n may_v be_v a_o universal_a visible_a yet_o have_v no_o officer_n over_o it_o or_o act_n perform_v in_o it_o but_o what_o be_v particular_a nor_o will_v it_o salve_v the_o business_n to_o say_v every_o minister_n be_v a_o indefinite_a officer_n with_o habitual_a power_n etc._n etc._n a_o officer_n actu_fw-la primo_fw-la to_o the_o universal_a church_n who_o as_o a_o justice_n of_o peace_n may_v be_v commission_v for_o a_o county_n though_o exercise_v but_o in_o a_o part_n thereof_o for_o a_o justice_n of_o peace_n have_v power_n by_o virtue_n of_o his_o commission_n to_o act_v in_o the_o whole_a county_n without_o any_o other_o call_v &_o fundamentum_fw-la exercitii_fw-la which_o be_v 10._o ans_fw-fr of_o the_o assemb_v pa●_n 10._o deny_v a_o minister_n a_o officer_n actu_fw-la primo_fw-la be_v furnish_v with_o all_o power_n needful_a unto_o and_o productive_a of_o a_o second_o act_n he_o that_o be_v general_a of_o a_o army_n in_o actu_fw-la primo_fw-la have_v power_n over_o the_o army_n exercere_fw-la &_o cocrcere_fw-la a_o particular_a officer_n not_o so_o he_o that_o be_v a_o king_n actu_fw-la primo_fw-la have_v power_n to_o govern_v a_o kingdom_n a_o mayor_n of_o a_o city_n not_o so_o when_o any_o thing_n be_v in_o the_o first_o act_n it_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n for_o a_o second_o act_n in_o nature_n and_o extent_n like_v unto_o the_o first_o if_o a_o minister_n have_v not_o the_o exercise_n of_o power_n in_o every_o church_n if_o he_o have_v not_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o exercise_n in_o any_o but_o his_o particular_a church_n to_o who_o he_o stand_v relate_v as_o their_o minister_n he_o be_v not_o a_o minister_n actu_fw-la primo_fw-la to_o every_o church_n the_o case_n of_o a_o officer_n definite_a to_o some_o viz._n to_o a_o particular_a church_n and_o indefinite_a to_o other_o viz._n to_o a_o catholic_n church_n be_v a_o strange_a case_n instance_n sometime_o give_v in_o lawyer_n physician_n etc._n etc._n reach_v it_o not_o who_o as_o so_o be_v not_o officer_n over_o any_o nor_o have_v they_o office_n rule_v to_o parallel_v it_o there_o be_v no_o church_n great_a than_o that_o which_o have_v power_n to_o hear_v and_o determine_v upon_o offence_n commit_v but_o that_o be_v particular_a exc._n dr._n c._n this_o argument_n be_v nothing_o to_o the_o question_n which_o be_v not_o which_o be_v great_a but_o whether_o there_o be_v any_o catholic_n church_n or_o no_o the_o particular_a church_n have_v not_o power_n of_o final_a determination_n answ_n when_o a_o question_n be_v de_fw-fr toto_fw-la make_v up_o of_o divers_a part_n it_o be_v out_o of_o question_n that_o a_o whole_a be_v great_a than_o its_o part_n he_o that_o prove_v the_o preended_a whole_a not_o great_a than_o the_o suppose_a part_n pr_v ve_z that_o to_o be_v no_o whole_a and_o these_o to_o be_v no_o part_n and_o so_o speak_v to_o the_o question_n and_o resolve_v it_o that_o power_n of_o final_a determination_n be_v in_o the_o particular_a church_n we_o prove_v mat._n 18._o 17._o which_o scripture_n either_o be_v no_o rule_n to_o bring_v the_o offence_n unto_o the_o church_n particular_a at_o all_o or_o be_v a_o rule_n to_o end_v it_o there_o and_o if_o christ_n have_v place_v power_n in_o the_o hand_n of_o seven_o we_o may_v not_o remove_v it_o to_o place_v it_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o seventy_o though_o more_o wise_a and_o judicious_a than_o the_o exc._n mr._n h._n by_o the_o church_n christ_n do_v mean_v the_o elder_n the_o people_n never_o have_v any_o right_n of_o judicature_n among_o the_o jew_n but_o the_o court_n where_o appeal_n be_v from_o three_o judge_n to_o 23._o and_o from_o 23._o to_o the_o sanhedrim_n no_o christian_a congregation_n be_v institute_v when_o christ_n speak_v mat._n 18._o 17._o it_o be_v to_o be_v take_v therefore_o in_o the_o jew_n dialect_n etc._n etc._n answ_n that_o the_o eldership_n of_o a_o church_n be_v by_o a_o synecdoche_n call_v a_o church_n in_o scripture_n can_v be_v clear_o evince_v from_o one_o text_n nor_o be_v it_o suitable_a to_o mr._n h._n his_o principle_n to_o attribute_v that_o denomination_n to_o officer_n either_o in_o congregational_a or_o classical_a or_o high_a assembly_n for_o he_o say_v vindic_a p._n 126._o the_o body_n of_o officer_n be_v a_o govern_v body_n but_o the_o whole_a church_n whether_o general_a or_o particular_a be_v not_o a_o govern_v body_n ergo_fw-la say_v we_o the_o body_n of_o officer_n be_v not_o the_o church_n general_a or_o particular_a again_o every_o church_n say_v he_o be_v a_o similar_v part_n of_o the_o catholic_n obtain_v its_o denomination_n upon_o that_o account_n pag._n 123._o and_o elsewhere_o whence_o this_o be_v clear_a that_o the_o eldership_n of_o lesser_a or_o great_a congregation_n be_v not_o a_o church_n such_o a_o body_n indeed_o be_v a_o body_n of_o organ_n not_o a_o organical_a body_n though_o it_o shall_v be_v suppose_v a_o part_n of_o the_o catholic_n yet_o can_v it_o not_o be_v say_v to_o be_v a_o singular_a part_n so_o that_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o similarity_n it_o shall_v though_o a_o particular_a bear_v the_o name_n of_o the_o universal_a and_o be_v style_v a_o church_n that_o offence_n among_o the_o jew_n be_v never_o bring_v before_o the_o people_n to_o be_v judge_v and_o sensure_v but_o before_o officer_n meet_v apart_o from_o they_o we_o believe_v not_o mos_fw-la suit_n hebraeis_n rem_fw-la ultimo_fw-la loco_fw-la ad_fw-la multitudinem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i._o e._n eorum_fw-la qui_fw-la eadem_fw-la instituta_fw-la sectarentur_fw-la producer_n cujus_fw-la tamen_fw-la multitudinis_fw-la juditia_fw-la seniores_fw-la tar_n quam_fw-la preside_v moderabantur_fw-la grot._fw-la in_o mat._n 18._o 17._o and_o this_o be_v the_o custom_n of_o christian_n in_o tertullia_n time_n who_o be_v convert_v to_o the_o faith_n an●o_o
question_n it_o must_v have_v be_v ergo_fw-la office_n be_v a_o relation_n to_o the_o work_n and_o employment_n of_o the_o ministry_n as_o its_o correlate_n arg._n 2._o the_o correlate_n to_o any_o relation_n be_v that_o wherein_o the_o subject_n be_v termniate_v vincentio_n revi_fw-la but_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v terminate_v pag._n 12._o in_o the_o work_n therefore_o the_o work_n be_v its_o correlate_n answ_n 1._o a_o illogicall_a argument_n in_o the_o major_a the_o subject_n of_o the_o relation_n be_v remember_v in_o the_o minor_a it_o be_v forget_v and_o the_o relation_n itself_o put_v in_o the_o place_n thereof_o if_o it_o be_v in_o form_n it_o must_v run_v thus_o the_o correlate_n to_o any_o relation_n be_v that_o wherein_o the_o subject_n be_v terminate_v but_o the_o subject_n of_o office_n relation_n be_v terminate_v in_o the_o work_n ergo_fw-la work_n be_v the_o correlate_n answ_n 2._o if_o his_o major_n be_v understand_v universal_o viz._n that_o the_o correlate_n to_o any_o relation_n be_v any_o thing_n wherein_o the_o subject_n be_v any_o way_n terminate_v we_o may_v fair_o deny_v this_o without_o deny_v all_o logic_n if_o it_o be_v take_v particular_o it_o be_v not_o conclusive_a against_o we_o we_o grant_v that_o the_o correlate_n to_o any_o relation_n be_v that_o wherein_o the_o subject_n be_v so_o terminate_v as_o the_o essence_n or_o be_v of_o the_o relation_n be_v introduce_v by_o its_o termination_n as_o a_o father_n be_v so_o terminate_v in_o a_o son_n or_o child_n that_o he_o have_v his_o be_v as_o a_o father_n in_o have_v a_o son_n or_o child_n and_o therefore_o a_o son_n or_o child_n be_v correlate_n &_o so_o in_o other_o such_o relation_n but_o the_o correlate_n to_o any_o relation_n be_v not_o that_o wherein_o the_o subject_n be_v terminate_v as_o the_o end_n of_o the_o relation_n for_o the_o end_n can_v be_v attain_v until_o the_o relation_n itself_o have_v a_o actual_a existence_n and_o exist_v it_o can_v without_o a_o correlate_n as_o the_o relation_n of_o a_o father_n be_v terminate_v in_o the_o work_n of_o a_o father_n as_o its_o end_n yet_o there_o must_v be_v a_o son_n or_o child_n in_o be_v before_o the_o do_n of_o that_o work_n and_o the_o same_o may_v be_v say_v of_o other_o relation_n as_o master_n and_o servant_n husband_n and_o wife_n etc._n etc._n and_o thus_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v the_o end_n of_o that_o relation_n there_o must_v be_v a_o correlate_n in_o be_v before_o that_o work_n can_v be_v perform_v and_o so_o work_n can_v be_v the_o correlate_n if_o this_o will_v hold_v good_a in_o relation_n secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la that_o be_v enough_o in_o this_o matter_n to_o evidence_n his_o argument_n to_o be_v false_a for_o that_o run_v general_o the_o correlate_n to_o any_o relation_n etc._n etc._n and_o beside_o it_o do_v not_o yet_o appear_v that_o officer_n be_v relation_n secundum_fw-la dici_fw-la 2._o as_o to_o his_o minor_n we_o say_v the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v not_o terminate_v in_o the_o work_n consider_v absolute_o but_o respective_o as_o the_o office_n of_o the_o mayor_n of_o norwich_n be_v not_o terminate_v in_o the_o work_n of_o a_o mayor_n or_o magistracy_n absolute_o and_o so_o for_o justice_n of_o the_o peace_n or_o other_o civil_a officer_n if_o they_o go_v out_o of_o the_o city_n corporation_n or_o county_n whereunto_o they_o be_v limit_v they_o can_v act_v as_o officer_n and_o therefore_o their_o office_n be_v terminate_v in_o their_o work_n in_o such_o a_o place_n or_o among_o such_o a_o people_n and_o thus_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v terminate_v not_o in_o the_o work_n in_o general_n but_o with_o respect_n and_o reference_n unto_o such_o a_o people_n or_o such_o a_o church_n relata_fw-la sunt_fw-la aliorum_fw-la dr._n collings_n proceed_v in_o a_o reply_n to_o our_o four_o argument_n which_o show_v that_o work_n can_v be_v the_o correlate_n to_o the_o office_n in_o answer_n to_o the_o two_o first_o he_o say_v ob._n 1._o officer_n be_v relata_fw-la secundum_fw-la dici_fw-la not_o relata_fw-la secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la nominal_a relation_n not_o those_o that_o logician_n call_v real_a relation_n vind._n revind_n pag._n 14._o 15._o 16._o answ_n we_o suppose_v dr._n collings_n be_v the_o first_o that_o have_v rank_v officer_n who_o be_v to_o be_v over_o other_o among_o those_o that_o be_v relata_fw-la secundum_fw-la dici_fw-la we_o have_v not_o meet_v with_o any_o logician_n that_o have_v do_v in_o before_o he_o &_o the_o rule_n upon_o which_o our_o argument_n be_v build_v be_v know_v by_o all_o that_o be_v acquaint_v with_o logic_n to_o be_v true_a in_o such_o as_o be_v relata_fw-la secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la answ_n 2._o against_o its_o be_v a_o nominal_a relation_n we_o shall_v offer_v a_o argument_n or_o two_o arg._n 1._o if_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n have_v no_o absolute_a be_v nor_o do_v appertain_v to_o any_o other_o predicament_n beside_o that_o of_o relation_n than_o it_o be_v according_a to_o logician_n a_o relation_n secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la or_o a_o real_a relation_n but_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n have_v no_o absolute_a be_v nor_o do_v appertain_v to_o any_o other_o predicament_n beside_o that_o of_o relation_n ergo_fw-la the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v according_a to_o logician_n a_o relation_n secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la the_o major_n none_o that_o be_v acquaint_v with_o logic_n can_v deny_v the_o minor_a appear_v because_o there_o be_v no_o other_o predicament_n that_o it_o be_v reducible_a to_o let_v he_o show_v to_o which_o if_o it_o may_v be_v refer_v we_o yet_o adhere_v to_o aristotle_n in_o this_o and_o seton_n who_o give_v a_o instance_n of_o predicamental_a relation_n give_v it_o in_o the_o office_n of_o magistracy_n &_o we_o suppose_v the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n be_v in_o the_o same_o predicament_n with_o that_o arg._n 2._o if_o officer_n qua_fw-la officer_n have_v their_o whole_a be_v in_o respect_n and_o reference_n unto_o other_o than_o office_n be_v a_o relation_n secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la but_o officer_n qua_fw-la officer_n have_v their_o whole_a be_v in_o respect_n &_o reference_n unto_o other_o ergo_fw-la office_n be_v a_o relation_n secundum_fw-la esse_fw-la the_o major_a he_o can_v deny_v the_o minor_a he_o except_v against_o ob._n but_o the_o essence_n of_o office_n lie_v not_o in_o its_o relation_n but_o in_o that_o authority_n wherewith_o the_o person_n be_v clothe_v by_o his_o ordination_n vind._n revind_n pag._n 14._o answ_n 1._o authority_n have_v no_o causal_n influence_n into_o office_n but_o flow_v from_o it_o and_o follow_v after_o it_o therefore_o the_o essence_n of_o office_n do_v not_o consist_v in_o it_o the_o london_n minister_n say_v church_n officer_n be_v the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o first_o recepticle_n or_o subject_n of_o church_n authority_n jus._n divin_n regim_fw-la pag._n 163._o if_o so_o than_o officer_n be_v before_o authority_n at_o lest_o prioritate_fw-la nature_n and_o then_o authority_n be_v but_o a_o adjunct_n which_o though_o a_o necessary_a concequent_a yet_o be_v no_o constituent_a consider_v master_n and_o scholar_n a_o tutor_n &_o pupil_n etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr 2_o if_o this_o be_v true_a than_o it_o be_v possible_a for_o a_o relation_n to_o hold_v though_o every_o thing_n in_o the_o world_n shall_v cease_v which_o it_o shall_v stand_v refer_v to_o there_o may_v be_v a_o relation_n and_o yet_o nothing_o be_v relate_v to_o or_o else_o ordination_n in_o such_o a_o case_n must_v be_v lose_v it_o be_v not_o prove_v that_o a_o person_n can_v stand_v clothe_v with_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o ministerial_a relation_n if_o there_o be_v no_o church_n that_o he_o stand_v relate_v to_o ob._n 2._o relation_n exist_v and_o perish_v together_o as_o to_o the_o same_o degree_n of_o be_v a_o man_n be_v not_o actual_o a_o officer_n when_o he_o can_v do_v his_o office_n but_o the_o habit_n remain_v 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officer_n set_v in_o it_o either_o the_o promise_n about_o officer_n or_o the_o church_n must_v fail_v if_o supposition_n against_o promise_n be_v allow_v and_o in_o what_o a_o sad_a condition_n than_o will_v the_o church_n be_v in_o for_o there_o will_v be_v none_o to_o appeal_v to_o and_o thus_o we_o may_v turn_v his_o word_n pag._n 34_o 35._o upon_o himself_o or_o we_o may_v suppose_v that_o persecutor_n be_v most_o of_o the_o world_n may_v murder_v that_o one_o congregation_n which_o he_o improper_o call_v the_o catholic_a church_n be_v but_o few_o its_o true_a the_o act_n will_v differ_v one_o be_v a_o act_n of_o horrid_a violence_n the_o other_o a_o juridical_a act_n but_o both_o be_v equal_o possible_a and_o so_o a_o supposition_n may_v be_v take_v from_o one_o as_o well_o as_o from_o the_o other_o and_o therefore_o he_o can_v get_v nothing_o from_o such_o supposal_n the_o monstrous_a opinion_n follow_v upon_o his_o own_o principle_n suppose_v but_o twenty_o minister_n in_o the_o world_n who_o only_o have_v power_n according_a to_o he_o to_o ordain_v and_o they_o through_o treachery_n and_o frowardness_n shall_v refuse_v to_o put_v forth_o their_o power_n for_o a_o succession_n they_o die_v and_o so_o the_o promise_n of_o christ_n be_v nullify_v neither_o do_v his_o answer_n to_o the_o objection_n pag._n 33._o 34._o take_v off_o this_o for_o here_o the_o case_n be_v not_o whole_o different_a here_o be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o horrid_a violence_n and_o therefore_o it_o be_v as_o great_a a_o inconvenience_n to_o assert_v that_o jesus_n christ_n have_v give_v to_o minister_n a_o juridical_a power_n as_o they_o judge_v that_o of_o ordination_n to_o be_v by_o the_o abuse_n of_o which_o they_o may_v if_o they_o please_v disannul_v a_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n chap._n vii_o wherein_o our_o argument_n for_o man_n being_n officer_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o and_o not_o to_o a_o universal_a be_v vindicate_v from_o the_o exception_n which_o mr._n pool_n 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15._o and_o 2_o tim._n 4._o 2._o and_o because_o a_o necessity_n be_v lay_v upon_o officer_n and_o woe_n be_v unto_o they_o if_o they_o preach_v not_o the_o gospel_n in_o season_n and_o out_o of_o season_n because_o officer_n be_v to_o give_v themselves_o whole_o to_o these_o thing_n and_o not_o to_o leave_v the_o word_n of_o god_n to_o serve_v table_n for_o any_o to_o say_v ergo_fw-la all_o preacher_n be_v under_o such_o obligation_n who_o see_v not_o the_o weakness_n of_o this_o argument_n if_o paul_n or_o other_o church-officer_n be_v not_o free_a from_o a_o necessity_n of_o preach_v by_o be_v where_o they_o be_v not_o desire_v to_o preach_v or_o if_o they_o ought_v to_o do_v it_o be_v there_o but_o any_o that_o will_v hear_v they_o as_o he_o intimate_v pag._n 48_o 49._o yet_o there_o may_v be_v other_o preacher_n not_o to_o oblige_v they_o have_v no_o flock_n or_o church_n commit_v to_o their_o charge_n as_o officer_n have_v who_o may_v command_v their_o church_n to_o hear_v but_o 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of_o ordination_n it_o consist_v in_o prayer_n etc._n etc._n ob._n 1._o if_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n do_v consist_v in_o election_n and_o prayer_n be_v use_v before_o election_n how_o can_v they_o pray_v in_o faith_n etc._n etc._n pag_n 135._o answ_n prayer_n before_o election_n be_v for_o the_o church_n direction_n into_o a_o right_a choice_n and_o so_o may_v be_v in_o faith_n though_o it_o be_v uncertain_a whether_o the_o person_n shall_v be_v choose_v or_o not_o but_o prayer_n in_o ordination_n be_v for_o a_o blessing_n upon_o a_o man_n in_o a_o work_n act_v 13._o 2_o 3._o and_o so_o a_o knowledge_n that_o a_o man_n be_v call_v to_o it_o which_o presuppose_v his_o have_v the_o essence_n of_o a_o call_n be_v necessary_a unto_o pray_v in_o faith_n there_o ob._n 2._o in_o such_o case_n our_o prayer_n have_v ae_z facit_fw-fr condition_n that_o god_n will_v bless_v he_o in_o the_o work_n if_o he_o shall_v be_v set_v apart_o for_o it_o pag._n 135._o answ_n prayer_n in_o 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plead_v for_o but_o berean_o and_o all_o that_o be_v godly_a that_o be_v believer_n &_o fit_a to_o be_v admit_v church_n member_n be_v fit_a with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n to_o judge_v of_o a_o minister_n ability_n which_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v p._n 141._o about_o its_o be_v a_o necessary_a qualification_n in_o every_o church-member_n if_o one_o church-member_n can_v not_o judge_v of_o it_o yet_o all_o together_o have_v ability_n some_o argument_n against_o election_n as_o give_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n he_o seek_v to_o vindicate_v ob._n 1._o as_o to_o act_n 6._o the_o apostle_n be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d choose_v and_o appoint_v be_v distinguish_v from_o and_o oppose_v to_o one_o another_o and_o the_o act_n of_o appoint_v be_v ascribe_v to_o the_o superior_n etc._n etc._n mr._n pool_n pag._n 142._o answ_n 1._o choose_v and_o appoint_v be_v not_o there_o oppose_v choose_v be_v unto_o office_n appoint_v be_v unto_o work_n act_v 6._o ver_fw-la 3._o who_o we_o may_v appoint_v but_o to_o what_o it_o be_v not_o say_v unto_o this_o office_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o this_o business_n and_o himself_o suppose_v pag._n 132._o that_o there_o may_v be_v ordination_n to_o a_o work_n and_o yet_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o call_v not_o consist_v therein_o &_o its_o evident_a that_o ordination_n to_o a_o work_n be_v subsequent_a to_o and_o sodoth_a not_o give_v the_o essence_n of_o a_o call_v to_o office_n act_v 13._o 2._o &_o so_o neither_o of_o these_o place_n can_v prove_v in_o the_o least_o their_o position_n 2._o it_o be_v not_o clear_v that_o we_o have_v reference_n to_o the_o apostle_n seorsim_fw-la as_o if_o it_o be_v their_o work_n only_o but_o conjunctim_fw-la with_o the_o
brethren_n as_o we_o show_v preacher_n send_v p._n 326._o as_o to_o what_o he_o say_v pag._n 142_o to_o tit._n 1._o 5._o we_o answer_v we_o do_v not_o call_v ordination_n a_o unnecessary_a adjunct_n the_o apostle_n pain_n may_v have_v be_v very_o useful_a in_o other_o place_n when_o yet_o the_o lord_n will_v have_v they_o abide_v at_o jerusalem_n and_o so_o titus_n at_o crete_n the_o set_n in_o order_n thing_n that_o be_v want_v be_v express_o and_o first_o mention_v as_o the_o cause_n of_o titus_n his_o stay_n at_o crete_n and_o as_o that_o concern_v but_o the_o well-being_n of_o the_o church_n no_o more_o do_v ordain_v of_o elder_n in_o every_o city_n for_o church_n have_v a_o be_v before_o officer_n act_n 14._o 23._o and_o if_o titus_n himself_o have_v act_v in_o neither_o of_o these_o work_n but_o only_o have_v take_v the_o oversight_n of_o those_o church_n and_o direct_v they_o therein_o yet_o it_o will_v have_v be_v necessary_a enough_o especial_o in_o that_o infant_n state_n of_o the_o church_n that_o titus_n shall_v a_o bide_v at_o crete_n but_o doubtless_o he_o have_v preach_v work_n enough_o there_o which_o be_v great_a than_o his_o ordain_v elder_n ob._n 2._o from_o the_o nature_n of_o election_n deu._n 1._o 13._o look_n what_o moses_n be_v to_o the_o jew_n that_o be_v minister_n unto_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n here_o be_v no_o difference_n at_o all_o in_o the_o power_n and_o authority_n of_o moses_n and_o minister_n only_o the_o one_o be_v civil_a the_o other_o ecclesiastical_a mr._n pool_n p._n 143._o answ_n 1._o the_o commonwealth_n of_o the_o jew_n be_v a_o thearchy_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o legislative_a part_n of_o government_n but_o it_o be_v a_o monarchy_n in_o respect_n of_o the_o executive_a part_n and_o moses_n the_o monarch_n thereof_o the_o spiritual_a commonwealth_n or_o minister_n not_o so_o 2._o the_o power_n of_o moses_n be_v supreme_a all_o other_o power_n subordinate_a unto_o he_o the_o power_n of_o spiritual_a officer_n not_o so_o 3._o moses_n have_v power_n to_o appoint_v officer_n of_o a_o new_a species_n under_o he_o exod._n 18._o ver_fw-la 24._o minister_n not_o so_o 4._o christ_n be_v compare_v with_o moses_n heb._n 3._o not_o so_o with_o minister_n of_o the_o gospel_n 5._o moses_n be_v over_o babe_n and_o such_o as_o be_v under_o tutor_n and_o governor_n minister_n over_o a_o free_a people_n 6._o yet_o moses_n give_v to_o the_o people_n those_o that_o they_o give_v to_o he_o so_o christ_n the_o king_n 15._o d._n 1._o v._n 13._o 15._o of_o saint_n give_v unto_o his_o church_n those_o that_o according_a to_o his_o direction_n they_o choose_v that_o freeman_n in_o a_o corporation_n give_v the_o essential_o of_o a_o call_v to_o their_o officer_n etc._n etc._n be_v enough_o to_o show_v that_o such_o as_o have_v no_o office-power_n yet_o frequent_o do_v make_v officer_n which_o answer_v the_o provinc_fw-la ass_n especial_o see_v they_o ground_n their_o objection_n upon_o a_o general_a rule_n nihil_fw-la that_fw-mi quod_fw-la non_fw-la habet_fw-la etc._n etc._n that_o christ_n free-people_n may_v have_v office-power_n eminent_o in_o they_o as_o well_o as_o those_o instance_a in_o be_v enough_o for_o we_o here_o we_o be_v in_o the_o defensive_a part_n but_o whereas_o he_o call_v p._n 144._o for_o divine_a institution_n we_o reply_v 1._o many_o like_a instance_n lie_n give_v and_o we_o have_v as_o good_a reason_n to_o call_v for_o a_o divine_a institution_n there_o as_o when_o he_o tell_v we_o pag._n 7._o of_o a_o vast_a number_n of_o sheep_n commit_v to_o twenty_o shepherd_n &c_n &c_n and_o p._n 8._o of_o a_o general_a relation_n to_o the_o whole_a empire_n &_o a_o special_a respect_n to_o their_o own_o territory_n we_o crave_v a_o divine_a institution_n for_o any_o such_o order_n in_o the_o church_n and_o so_o for_o his_o instance_n pag._n 131._o 132_o about_o a_o presentation_n and_o the_o archbishop_n and_o a_o d●_n of_o physic_n and_o 137._o 138._o of_o a_o corporation_n a_o court_n of_o alderman_n etc._n etc._n let_v he_o show_v a_o divine_a institution_n that_o it_o be_v so_o in_o the_o church_n and_o why_o do_v he_o require_v of_o we_o and_o not_o give_v it_o himself_o the_o use_n of_o such_o example_n be_v to_o clear_v some_o general_a rule_n to_o illustrate_v and_o to_o show_v that_o there_o be_v case_n parallel_v and_o we_o go_v thus_o far_o 2._o we_o give_v a_o institution_n in_o our_o argument_n to_o prove_v that_o election_n give_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n as_o to_o minister_n be_v before_o the_o church_n we_o sufficient_o disprove_v it_o in_o our_o former_a book_n pag._n 303_o 304._o it_o be_v evident_a that_o church_n be_v before_o elder_n act._n 14._o 23._o it_o concern_v he_o to_o prove_v that_o any_o ordinary_a elder_n be_v before_o a_o church_n and_o that_o they_o act_n as_o officer_n to_o such_o as_o be_v no_o church_n else_o he_o say_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n that_o church_n to_o be_v be_v gather_v and_o baptize_v by_o they_o 〈◊〉_d answer_v in_o the_o place_n even_o now_o quote_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_v i_o do_v consist_v in_o ordination_n they_o use_v five_o argument_n he_o plead_v for_o two_o of_o they_o the_o former_a be_v take_v from_o 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o stir_n up_o the_o gift_n of_o god_n which_o be_v in_o thou_o 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o neglect_n not_o the_o gift_n that_o be_v in_o thou_o etc._n etc._n object_n he_o say_v 1._o it_o be_v a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v for_o office_n as_o well_o as_o gift_n 3._o that_o a_o man_n may_v be_v say_v to_o stir_v up_o his_o office_n and_o office_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o a_o man_n 4._o that_o a_o extraordinary_a office_n may_v be_v convey_v by_o ordinary_a officer_n who_o be_v inferior_a to_o he_o 5._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o other_o place_n 6._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d may_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o gift_n 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o and_o of_o the_o office_n 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o mr._n pool_n from_o pag._n 146._o to_o 151._o answ_n 1._o that_o it_o be_v a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n be_v not_o prove_v extraordinary_a officer_n be_v presbyter_n 2._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d common_o signify_v a_o absolute_a gift_n &_o its_o questionable_a whether_o it_o be_v use_v any_o where_o for_o office_n 3._o it_o be_v a_o stir_v up_o as_o fire_n and_o it_o be_v very_o improper_a to_o say_v that_o office_n be_v so_o stir_v up_o especial_o see_v the_o gift_n be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o he_o which_o be_v not_o true_a of_o office_n though_o a_o man_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o that_o which_o be_v in_o he_o as_o be_v swallow_v up_o or_o overcome_v thereby_o as_o a_o man_n in_o sin_n in_o bear_n or_o drink_v in_o joy_n etc._n etc._n yet_o it_o can_v with_o any_o propriety_n of_o speech_n be_v say_v that_o be_v in_o a_o man_n which_o be_v but_o upon_o he_o office_n be_v only_o adherent_a to_o a_o man_n not_o inherent_a or_o in_o he_o it_o be_v very_o improper_a to_o say_v to_o a_o major_n bailiff_n justice_n constable_n etc._n etc._n stir_v up_o the_o office_n that_o be_v in_o you_o 4._o if_o a_o extraordinary_a office_n may_v be_v convey_v by_o ordinary_a officer_n which_o be_v not_o prove_v yet_o their_o argument_n be_v of_o no_o force_n unless_o he_o can_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v do_v here_o what_o he_o add_v pag._n 149_o of_o its_o be_v ordinary_a in_o state_n and_o church_n for_o a_o person_n to_o have_v a_o office_n convey_v to_o he_o ministerial_o by_o such_o as_o be_v inferior_a to_o he_o etc._n etc._n do_v plain_o contradict_v what_o himself_o say_v p._n 138._o 160._o that_o the_o less_o be_v call_v of_o the_o great_a and_o by_o this_o rule_n though_o the_o people_n be_v inferior_a to_o their_o officer_n yet_o they_o may_v convey_v their_o office_n to_o they_o his_o instance_n of_o a_o king_n who_o office_n be_v convey_v by_o some_o of_o his_o subject_n if_o true_a prove_v that_o those_o who_o be_v place_v in_o a_o state_n of_o subjection_n yet_o may_v have_v authority_n enough_o to_o give_v the_o essence_n to_o their_o officer_n and_o so_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v pag._n 139._o 5._o it_o be_v seldom_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o there_o be_v no_o evidence_n that_o it_o must_v be_v so_o take_v here_o 6._o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v use_v for_o gift_n 2_o tim._n 1._o 6._o and_o for_o office_n 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o be_v altogether_o without_o proof_n or_o probility_n of_o truth_n for_o as_o the_o phrase_n be_v improper_a neglect_v