Selected quad for the lemma: authority_n

Word A Word B Word C Word D Occurrence Frequency Band MI MI Band Prominent
authority_n church_n ordain_v rite_n 2,072 5 10.7421 5 false
View all documents for the selected quad

Text snippets containing the quad

ID Title Author Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication) STC Words Pages
A07646 A gagg for the new Gospell? No: a nevv gagg for an old goose VVho would needes vndertake to stop all Protestants mouths for euer, with 276. places out of their owne English Bibles. Or an ansvvere to a late abridger of controuersies, and belyar of the Protestants doctrine. By Richard Mountagu. Published by authoritie. Montagu, Richard, 1577-1641. 1624 (1624) STC 18038; ESTC S112831 210,549 373

There are 8 snippets containing the selected quad. | View original text

fear_v to_o do_v the_o like_a as_o he_o that_o offend_v against_o the_o common_a order_n of_o the_o church_n hurt_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o magistrate_n and_o wound_v the_o conscience_n of_o the_o weak_a loe_o tradition_n not_o only_a avow_a but_o maintain_v the_o infringer_n censure_v so_o that_o but_o read_v over_o your_o position_n again_o that_o apostolical_a tradition_n and_o ancient_a custom_n of_o the_o holy_a church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v receive_v nor_o do_v oblige_v we_o compare_v that_o with_o this_o decision_n and_o then_o give_v your_o catholic_a honesty_n the_o lie_n every_o particular_a or_o national_a church_n have_v authority_n to_o ordain_v to_o change_v and_o abolish_v ceremony_n or_o rite_n 3._o of_o the_o church_n ordain_v only_o by_o man_n authority_n so_o that_o all_o thing_n be_v do_v unto_o edification_n nor_o be_v this_o against_o your_o catholic_a doctrine_n or_o practice_n and_o yet_o this_o be_v all_o that_o our_o church_n deliver_v touch_v tradition_n in_o their_o public_a authorise_a receive_v constitution_n private_a opinion_n if_o there_o be_v any_o tie_v we_o no_o more_o than_o they_o do_v you_o nay_o we_o deal_v more_o sincere_o and_o positive_o than_o you_o do_v distinguish_v tradition_n for_o plainness_n sake_n whereas_o your_o father_n of_o trent_n give_v this_o only_a in_o command_n that_o tradition_n be_v receive_v as_o the_o scripture_n play_v fast_o and_o loose_a in_o ambigivous_a term_n not_o difference_v humane_a divine_a apostolical_a apotacticall_a christian_a paganish_a general_a particular_a free_a of_o necessity_n temporary_a or_o permanent_a tradition_n can_v you_o or_o any_o papist_n defend_v this_o the_o popish_a doctrine_n thus_o deliver_v be_v not_o only_o contrary_a to_o express_v word_n of_o your_o own_o bibles_n but_o to_o piety_n and_o religion_n to_o sense_n and_o reason_n that_o any_o idle_a fantastic_a foolish_a impious_a profane_a humane_a invention_n for_o your_o word_n run_v general_o and_o extend_v to_o all_o shall_v be_v receive_v as_o holy_a scripture_n but_o the_o protestant_n doctrine_n declare_v as_o before_o be_v not_o contrary_a to_o express_v word_n of_o our_o bibles_n 2_o thessaly_n 2._o 15._o therefore_o brethren_n stand_v fast_o and_o hold_v the_o tradition_n which_o you_o have_v receive_v whether_o by_o word_n or_o by_o our_o epistle_n therefore_o etc._n etc._n we_o deny_v not_o obedience_n unto_o this_o exhortation_n but_o endeavour_v to_o stand_v fast_o in_o the_o word_n of_o truth_n and_o hold_v fast_o all_o those_o tradition_n which_o saint_n paul_n deliver_v either_o by_o word_n or_o writing_n all_o protestant_n give_v due_a respect_n to_o such_o divine_a authority_n show_v any_o that_o do_v not_o and_o you_o say_v somewhat_o but_o good_a sir_n gagger_n he_o that_o refuse_v those_o manifold_a botchery_n and_o brokerage_n of_o your_o romish_a church_n and_o cast_v they_o off_o as_o impious_a and_o ridiculous_a do_v not_o straight_o transgress_v this_o apostolical_a direction_n no_o more_o than_o he_o that_o reject_v a_o counterfeit_a pass_n make_v by_o some_o jarkman_n under_o a_o hedge_n for_o a_o rogue_n do_v resist_v lawful_a authority_n prove_v your_o tradition_n such_o as_o you_o pretend_v then_o see_v what_o we_o will_v say_v unto_o you_o 2_o thessaly_n 3._o 6._o now_o we_o command_v you_o brethren_z in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n that_o you_o withdraw_v you_o self_n from_o every_o brother_n that_o walk_v disorderly_a and_o not_o after_o the_o tradition_n he_o receive_v of_o us._n which_o we_o receive_v and_o obey_v but_o tradition_n may_v run_v for_o example_n here_o in_o effect_n not_o according_a to_o our_o example_n and_o so_o saint_n chrysostome_n upon_o the_o place_n or_o it_o may_v be_v something_o extant_a also_o in_o writing_n or_o order_n prescribe_v they_o by_o the_o apostle_n temporary_a and_o occasional_a or_o of_o moral_a dispensation_n if_o you_o can_v name_v it_o we_o will_v not_o refuse_v for_o our_o conclusion_n differerh_n not_o from_o you_o tradition_n be_v to_o be_v receive_v and_o do_v oblige_v we_o but_o you_o must_v let_v we_o know_v they_o and_o their_o credit_n first_o 1_o cor._n 11._o 2._o i_o praise_v you_o brethren_n say_v the_o apostle_n that_o you_o remember_v i_o in_o all_o thing_n and_o keep_v the_o tradition_n as_o i_o have_v deliver_v they_o unto_o you_o so_o he_o will_v we_o be_v he_o now_o live_v so_o will_v he_o not_o you_o that_o have_v break_v they_o for_o that_o which_o he_o deliver_v unto_o they_o that_o he_o receive_v of_o the_o lord_n 1_o cor._n 11._o 23._o and_o that_o which_o he_o receive_v be_v touch_v the_o whole_a entire_a communion_n the_o cup_n as_o well_o as_o the_o bread_n you_o have_v break_v this_o tradition_n through_o your_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o presumption_n but_o can_v you_o resolve_v i_o what_o tradition_n he_o mean_v here_o perhaps_o they_o be_v temporal_a and_o not_o intend_v for_o us._n if_o such_o your_o own_o rule_n be_v they_o oblige_v not_o it_o may_v be_v no_o unwritten_a tradition_n but_o the_o write_a word_n at_o least_o such_o thing_n as_o be_v write_v now_o howsoever_o the_o allegation_n be_v not_o to_o purpose_n for_o it_o do_v not_o prove_v what_o the_o protestant_n deny_v and_o that_o which_o it_o prove_v they_o deny_v not_o that_o tradition_n be_v to_o be_v keep_v 2_o timoth._n 2._o 2._o where_o there_o be_v no_o express_a mention_n more_o of_o tradition_n but_o only_o of_o thing_n receive_v from_o saint_n paul_n by_o which_o tradition_n peradventure_o not_o write_v be_v mean_v and_o peradventure_o thing_n write_v who_o can_v tell_v whether_o these_o or_o those_o show_v they_o and_o we_o refuse_v they_o not_o john_n 20._o 30._o and_o 21_o 25._o be_v both_o to_o one_o purpose_n tradition_n be_v in_o neither_o text_n express_v nor_o to_o be_v collect_v from_o either_o for_o neither_o text_n be_v for_o tradition_n both_o one_o &_o other_o intimate_v no_o more_o but_o that_o all_o which_o christ_n do_v or_o say_v be_v not_o record_v in_o the_o gospel_n do_v any_o idiot_n believe_v the_o contrary_a this_o fellow_n may_v beg_v we_o if_o we_o say_v or_o teach_v that_o christ_n do_v nor_o say_v any_o thing_n but_o that_o be_v write_v till_o then_o himself_o may_v be_v beg_v for_o a_o fool_n that_o will_v put_v upon_o we_o this_o unhandsome_a belief_n all_o that_o christ_n do_v or_o say_v be_v not_o write_v therefore_o any_o thing_n must_v be_v receive_v that_o be_v pretend_v to_o be_v tradition_n apostolical_a or_o divine_a 1_o cor._n 11._o 34._o paul_n say_v the_o rest_n i_o will_v set_v in_o order_n basil_n when_o i_o come_v therefore_o you_o may_v go_v learn_v to_o bake_v a_o batch_n of_o bread_n or_o go_v drink_v a_o health_n to_o the_o vicar_n of_o st._n fool_n with_o your_o host_n of_o holborn_n the_o inference_n be_v saint_n paul_n have_v not_o order_v all_o till_o he_o come_v when_o he_o come_v he_o make_v good_a his_o promise_n and_o set_v all_o thing_n in_o order_n at_o corinth_n therefore_o any_o thing_n though_o never_o so_o absurd_a which_o papist_n pretend_v as_o tradition_n must_v be_v receive_v as_o god_n word_n 1_o timoth._n 6._o 2._o saint_n paul_n say_v nothing_o of_o tradition_n except_o these_o word_n will_v bear_v out_o tradition_n these_o thing_n teach_v and_o exhort_v which_o thing_n be_v write_v not_o unwritten_a for_o these_o thing_n do_v design_n thing_n there_o remember_v saint_n john_n 2._o epist_n 12._o say_v he_o have_v many_o thing_n to_o write_v unto_o they_o which_o he_o will_v not_o commit_v to_o paper_n but_o come_v himself_o and_o teach_v they_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n which_o he_o repeat_v ep._n 3._o vers_fw-la 13._o therefore_o he_o write_v not_o all_o thing_n unto_o they_o and_o who_o say_v he_o do_v therefore_o what_o our_o gagger_n be_v a_o goose_n no_o other_o sequel_n and_o so_o he_o must_v stand_v until_o he_o show_v that_o some_o of_o his_o romish_a tradition_n be_v part_n of_o that_o which_o saint_n john_n will_v not_o write_v unto_o they_o but_o teach_v they_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n act._n 16._o 4._o and_o 15._o 28._o we_o read_v of_o no_o tradition_n we_o do_v of_o decree_n ordain_v in_o the_o council_n at_o jerusalem_n but_o the_o mischief_n be_v they_o be_v write_v and_o yet_o so_o our_o gagger_n and_o his_o comerade_n keep_v they_o not_o for_o tell_v i_o do_v you_o never_o eat_v a_o goose_n or_o her_o pudding_n capon_n hen_n or_o chicken_n at_o your_o bottle-ale_n house_n in_o partridge-al_o if_o not_o there_o nor_o otherwhere_o i_o have_v nothing_o to_o say_v to_o you_o but_o if_o so_o i_o return_v it_o to_o your_o tooth_n you_o belie_v we_o in_o that_o which_o you_o do_v yourselves_o the_o tradition_n apostolical_a and_o ancient_a custom_n of_o the_o holy_a church_n oblige_v you_o not_o for_o among_o these_o decree_n or_o as_o you_o will_v
we_o must_v rely_v upon_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n and_o her_o pastor_n there_o be_v more_o pastor_n in_o the_o church_n than_o the_o pope_n though_o he_o be_v grant_v first_o he_o be_v not_o all_o there_o be_v more_o church_n than_o his_o church_n what_o have_v pope_n vrban_n one_o man_n to_o do_v with_o pastor_n with_o the_o church_n but_o that_o which_o we_o know_v well_o enough_o by_o pastor_n and_o church_n in_o conclusion_n you_o mean_v the_o pope_n i_o can_v interpret_v saint_n anselm_n well_o enough_o as_o that_o if_o a_o controversy_n be_v refer_v by_o the_o church_n or_o a_o heresy_n to_o be_v correct_v in_o the_o church_n which_o touch_v the_o case_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n it_o can_v not_o be_v put_v over_o more_o fit_o to_o any_o one_o man_n by_o the_o church_n representative_a in_o a_o council_n then_o unto_o the_o pope_n first_o bishop_n of_o christendom_n of_o great_a not_o absolute_a power_n among_o bishop_n but_o i_o know_v your_o saint_n anselm_n well_o enough_o this_o be_v not_o his_o meaning_n he_o be_v partial_a post_fw-la natus_fw-la not_o fit_a to_o speak_v in_o this_o cause_n nor_o among_o the_o father_n a_o great_a bishop_n i_o grant_v he_o he_o be_v archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n no_o great_a doctor_n but_o respective_o consider_v the_o barbarous_a time_n in_o which_o he_o live_v far_o from_o be_v one_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n or_o their_o grandchild_n he_o live_v in_o the_o day_n of_o bottle-ale_n king_n henry_n the_o first_o and_o be_v a_o factionist_n for_o pope_n vrban_n his_o good_a lord_n and_o master_n so_o ask_v my_o fellow_n if_o i_o be_v a_o thief_n your_o bottle-ale_n hostess_n where_o you_o use_v it_o seem_v to_o meet_v in_o partridge_n alley_n with_o your_o gossip_n be_v well_o enough_o acquaint_v with_o these_o passage_n and_o can_v tell_v you_o as_o much_o as_o saint_n anselm_n can_v if_o a_o heretic_n ask_v she_o who_o be_v supreme_a ale-can_a on_o earth_n she_o will_v answer_v no_o doubt_n why_o who_o but_o his_o holiness_n in_o this_o case_n i_o believe_v they_o both_o alike_o as_o good_a reason_n for_o one_o as_o for_o other_o sure_a you_o be_v no_o better_o than_o those_o cork_n with_o which_o your_o hostess_n use_v to_o stop_v her_o bottle_n but_o agree_v as_o you_o can_v you_o and_o your_o hostess_n we_o proceed_v to_o the_o next_o proposition_n iii_o that_o apostolical_a tradition_n and_o ancient_a custom_n of_o the_o holy_a catholic_a church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v receive_v nor_o do_v oblige_v we_o this_o be_v also_o contrary_a to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o bible_n our_o own_o bibles_n how_o wherefore_o we_o shall_v see_v when_o we_o can_v in_o the_o interim_n thus_o we_o draw_v on_o tradition_n be_v of_o two_o sort_n in_o the_o write_n of_o antiquity_n as_o the_o word_n be_v ambiguous_a of_o two_o signification_n there_o be_v tradition_n write_v improper_o so_o call_v and_o there_o be_v tradition_n unwritten_a deliver_v from_o hand_n to_o hand_n the_o name_n be_v sometime_o apply_v to_o the_o one_o and_o sometime_o attribute_v to_o the_o other_o you_o mean_v not_o here_o tradition_n write_v i_o know_v it_o no_o more_o do_v we_o we_o agree_v to_o take_v it_o of_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o opposition_n unto_o scripture_n as_o where_o tertullian_n speak_v in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr coronâ_fw-la militis_fw-la thus_o scripturam_fw-la nullam_fw-la inuenies_fw-la traditio_fw-la tibi_fw-la praetenditur_fw-la evictrix_fw-la scripture_n for_o this_o you_o can_v find_v none_o the_o original_n come_v from_o tradition_n tradition_n be_v consider_v original_o in_o their_o author_n christ_n the_o apostle_n the_o church_n privateman_n which_o have_v their_o authority_n more_o or_o less_o answerable_a to_o the_o worth_n of_o their_o original_n again_o they_o be_v consider_v material_o in_o regard_n of_o what_o they_o treat_v of_o what_o they_o contain_v whereof_o they_o be_v of_o order_n right_n practice_n opinion_n in_o common_a use_n and_o custom_n among_o man_n tradition_n institute_v by_o our_o saviour_n even_o in_o point_n of_o belief_n &_o faith_n have_v divine_a authority_n as_o his_o write_a word_n have_v tradition_n derive_v from_o the_o apostle_n have_v equal_a authority_n with_o their_o preach_n and_o their_o write_n i_o approve_v that_o process_n of_o the_o controversor_n the_o authority_n of_o god_n word_n be_v not_o because_o it_o be_v write_v but_o because_o it_o come_v from_o god_n tradition_n of_o the_o church_n have_v such_o authority_n as_o the_o church_n have_v all_o bind_v and_o oblige_v as_o they_o be_v intend_v and_o as_o their_o extent_n be_v for_o they_o must_v be_v consider_v not_o only_o from_o the_o author_n but_o from_o the_o end_n some_o be_v intend_v to_o be_v permanent_a other_o only_o to_o be_v transient_a for_o a_o time_n only_o or_o else_o for_o ever_o some_o universal_a some_o only_a partial_a for_o the_o catholic_a or_o else_o a_o private_a church_n such_o variety_n and_o difference_n be_v in_o tradition_n which_o this_o hudler_fw-ge confound_v to_o deceive_v his_o novice_n with_o indistinction_n now_o the_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o there_o be_v tradition_n or_o have_v be_v heretofore_o we_o do_v grant_v it_o in_o every_o kind_n that_o either_o there_o be_v or_o have_v be_v tradition_n of_o christ_n his_o apostle_n the_o church_n private_a man_n the_o question_n be_v not_o of_o what_o authority_n they_o be_v we_o grant_v their_o authority_n be_v from_o and_o as_o the_o author_n but_o the_o question_n be_v of_o their_o credit_n and_o extent_n first_o whether_o the_o pretend_a tradition_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n be_v indeed_o so_o ordain_v or_o derive_v as_o they_o be_v pretend_v or_o rather_o counterseit_n and_o supposition_n prove_v they_o true_a undoubted_a and_o we_o rise_v up_o unto_o they_o second_o to_o what_o end_v they_o be_v institute_v whether_o to_o last_o and_o endure_v ever_o or_o for_o a_o time_n whether_o to_o supply_v the_o defect_n of_o scripture_n not_o else_o sufficient_a for_o the_o end_n this_o we_o deny_v for_o it_o be_v our_o position_n that_o the_o write_a word_n of_o god_n without_o unwritten_a tradition_n be_v perfect_a and_o absolute_a and_o sufficient_a for_o the_o end_n whereto_o it_o be_v intend_v to_o make_v the_o man_n of_o god_n absolute_a in_o every_o good_a work_n abuse_v not_o yourselves_o nor_o your_o proselyte_n here_o slander_v not_o nor_o belie_v we_o give_v we_o any_o tradition_n of_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n give_v we_o good_a evidence_n for_o what_o you_o say_v go_v prove_v it_o convince_o to_o have_v come_v from_o they_o by_o scripture_n father_n consent_n of_o antiquity_n can_v you_o ask_v any_o more_o and_o we_o receive_v it_o with_o both_o our_o arm_n as_o god_n holy_a word_n and_o institution_n quae_fw-la universa_fw-la tenet_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n praecepta_fw-la benè_fw-la traduntur_fw-la quanquam_fw-la scripta_fw-la non_fw-la reperiantur_fw-la though_o i_o find_v it_o not_o upon_o record_n in_o scripture_n yet_o i_o receive_v it_o as_o proceed_n from_o the_o apostle_n if_o the_o universal_a church_n embrace_v it_o say_v saint_n augustine_n and_o i_o subscribe_v unto_o it_o bring_v we_o any_o such_o tradition_n so_o accept_v so_o receive_v so_o commend_v and_o you_o shall_v see_v we_o will_v reverence_v it_o as_o much_o as_o you_o or_o more_o but_o if_o you_o give_v i_o copper_n in_o stead_n of_o gold_n pardon_v i_o if_o i_o believe_v you_o not_o nor_o receive_v it_o for_o pay_v ecclesiastical_a constitution_n be_v more_o more_o certain_a of_o the_o same_o authority_n with_o the_o church_n write_v law_n which_o bind_v general_o if_o make_v for_o general_a obligation_n or_o else_o particular_o if_o they_o have_v but_o local_a and_o confine_v limitation_n omni_fw-la modo_fw-la bind_v they_o do_v unto_o obedience_n so_o long_o in_o such_o sort_n so_o far_o forth_o as_o the_o author_n do_v intend_v till_o the_o same_o authority_n disavow_v they_o which_o give_v unto_o they_o be_v at_o the_o first_o in_o the_o 34._o article_n to_o this_o purpose_n we_o read_v of_o and_o concern_v ecclesiastical_a tradition_n it_o be_v not_o necessary_a that_o tradition_n and_o ceremony_n be_v 1._o in_o all_o place_n one_o or_o utter_o like_a for_o that_o at_o all_o time_n they_o have_v be_v diverse_a and_o may_v be_v change_v according_a to_o diversity_n of_o country_n time_n and_o man_n manner_n so_o that_o nothing_o be_v ordain_v against_o god_n word_n your_o catholic_a care_n be_v they_o round_a or_o long_o can_v be_v offend_v with_o this_o position_n i_o think_v whosoever_o through_o his_o private_a judgement_n willing_o 2._o and_o purposely_o do_v open_o break_v the_o tradition_n and_o ceremony_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v not_o repugnant_a unto_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o be_v ordain_v and_o approve_v by_o common_a authority_n aught_o to_o be_v rebuke_v open_o that_o other_o may_v
the_o roman_a church_n for_o saint_n gregory_n upon_o the_o 6._o of_o ezechiel_n same_o say_v if_o the_o understanding_n of_o holy_a scripture_n be_v plain_a to_o all_o man_n it_o will_v come_v in_o time_n to_o be_v of_o no_o reckon_n where_o he_o give_v a_o reason_n of_o that_o obscurity_n that_o be_v in_o it_o who_o yet_o upon_o the_o 6._o of_o job_n more_o atfull_a interprete_v his_o own_o meaning_n thus_o sacra_fw-la scriptura_fw-la cibus_fw-la est_fw-la in_o locis_fw-la obscurioribus_fw-la quia_fw-la quasi_fw-la exponendo_fw-la frangitur_fw-la et_fw-la mandendo_fw-la glutitur_fw-la potus_fw-la vero_fw-la est_fw-la in_o locis_fw-la apertioribus_fw-la quià_fw-la ita_fw-la sorbetur_fw-la sicut_fw-la invenitur_fw-la the_o holy_a scripture_n be_v meat_n in_o the_o more_o obscure_a place_n because_o in_o the_o expound_v thereof_o it_o be_v break_v as_o it_o be_v and_o in_o chew_v swallow_v drink_v it_o be_v in_o the_o more_o perspicuous_a place_n because_o it_o be_v as_o easy_o swallow_v down_o as_o it_o be_v find_v thus_o the_o doctrine_n and_o belief_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v sometime_o scripture_n in_o some_o place_n be_v hard_o in_o some_o place_n easy_a have_v that_o church_n now_o forsake_v her_o former_a faith_n if_o not_o we_o differ_v not_o for_o we_o maintain_v the_o easiness_n of_o holy_a scripture_n no_o otherwise_o then_o saint_n gregory_n the_o pope_n do_v this_o goose_n may_v fit_v the_o gag_n for_o his_o gander_n mouth_n the_o gospel_n will_v soon_o enough_o be_v rid_v of_o it_o ii_o that_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n we_o must_v not_o rely_v upon_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n and_o of_o her_o pastor_n but_o only_o upon_o the_o write_a word_n i_o know_v no_o such_o tenant_n exclusive_o i_o know_v no_o such_o assertion_n negative_o the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v no_o such_o faith_n as_o this_o you_o set_v up_o a_o shawfoule_n for_o a_o mark_n and_o shoot_v your_o bolt_n at_o it_o yourself_o alone_o in_o our_o 11._o article_n put_v on_o your_o spectacle_n and_o see_v if_o you_o can_v read_v it_o we_o profess_v the_o church_n have_v authority_n in_o controversy_n of_o faith_n the_o write_a word_n of_o god_n be_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n with_o us._n and_o have_v be_v so_o with_o all_o our_o father_n of_o old_a unto_o the_o law_n and_o unto_o the_o prophet_n be_v a_o direction_n of_o a_o perpetual_a morality_n and_o be_v continue_v in_o that_o of_o our_o saviour_n joh._n 5._o search_v the_o scripture_n for_o in_o they_o you_o hope_v to_o have_v eternal_a life_n a_o rule_n absolute_a in_o itself_o a_o rule_n most_o sufficient_a unto_o we_o for_o that_o end_n intend_v to_o make_v the_o man_n of_o god_n perfect_a in_o every_o good_a work_n sufficiunt_fw-la sanctae_fw-la et_fw-la divinitus_fw-la inspiratae_fw-la scripturae_fw-la say_v athanasius_n ad_fw-la omnem_fw-la institutionem_fw-la veritatis_fw-la truth_n be_v of_o two_o sort_n among_o man_n manifest_a and_o confess_v truth_n or_o more_o obscure_a and_o involue_v truth_n in_o his_o quae_fw-la aperte_fw-la posita_fw-la sunt_fw-la in_o scripture_n inveni●ntur_fw-la illa_fw-la omne_fw-la quae_fw-la continent_n fidem_fw-la moresque_fw-la vivendi_fw-la spem_fw-la scilicet_fw-la &_o charitatem_fw-la plain_o deliver_v in_o scripture_n be_v all_o those_o point_n which_o belong_v unto_o faith_n and_o manner_n hope_v and_o charity_n to_o wit_n and_o according_o i_o do_v know_v no_o obscurity_n upon_o these_o i_o know_v none_o of_o these_o controvert_v inter_fw-la part_n the_o article_n of_o our_o creed_n be_v confess_v on_o both_o side_n and_o hold_v plain_a enough_o the_o controverted_a point_n be_v of_o a_o large_a and_o a_o inferior_a alloy_n of_o they_o a_o man_n may_v be_v ignorant_a without_o any_o danger_n of_o his_o soul_n at_o all_o a_o man_n may_v resolve_v or_o oppose_v this_o way_n or_o that_o way_n without_o peril_n of_o perish_v for_o ever_o now_o if_o a_o question_n be_v move_v iuris_fw-la controversi_fw-la in_o controverted_a matter_n who_o shall_v decide_v and_o settle_v the_o doubt_n you_o say_v the_o church_n and_o so_o say_v i_o nay_o so_o say_v we_o you_o say_v we_o say_v the_o scripture_n but_o without_o the_o church_n that_o be_v each_o private_a man_n opinion_n and_o interpretation_n of_o the_o scripture_n even_o against_o the_o church_n no_o such_o thing_n sir_n you_o mistake_v us._n we_o say_v the_o church_n must_v do_v it_o explain_v declare_v resolve_v the_o scripture_n as_o the_o direction_n be_v from_o god_n himself_o to_o purpose_n deut._n 17._o 8._o and_o as_o your_o text_n and_o father_n do_v pretend_v it_o and_o no_o otherwise_o and_o yet_o the_o scripture_n may_v well_o be_v call_v judge_n as_o the_o law_n determine_v controversy_n betwixt_o man_n and_o man_n in_o plain_a case_n iuris_fw-la positivi_fw-la no_o decide_v judge_n or_o legal_a proceed_n shall_v need_v but_o such_o as_o be_v iuris_fw-la ambigui_fw-la &_o controversi_fw-la must_v be_v determine_v by_o the_o court_n by_o the_o judge_n according_a unto_o law_n so_o be_v it_o in_o scripture_n according_a to_o the_o protestant_n opinion_n in_o point_n of_o faith_n they_o disclaim_v not_o the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n nor_o yet_o appeal_v to_o scripture_n alone_o understand_v by_o themselves_o without_o a_o judge_n but_o refer_v it_o unto_o the_o church_n and_o they_o have_v reason_n for_o it_o enough_o see_v god_n word_n and_o the_o ancient_a practice_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n that_o be_v both_o law_n and_o judge_n be_v both_o for_o they_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n i_o will_v be_v try_v thereby_o and_o maintain_v it_o against_o all_o papist_n living_n take_v one_o for_o all_o cyril_n of_o jerusalem_n in_o his_o four_o catechism_n say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o any_o point_n concern_v the_o divine_a and_o holy_a mystery_n of_o our_o faith_n not_o any_o the_o least_o thing_n must_v be_v tender_v without_o warrant_n of_o divine_a scripture_n and_o he_o add_v believe_v i_o not_o that_o speak_v and_o deliver_v these_o thing_n unto_o you_o unless_o for_o proof_n of_o they_o i_o do_v bring_v plain_a and_o evident_a demonstration_n out_o of_o divine_a writ_n be_v this_o man_n a_o protestant_n or_o a_o papist_n those_o bibles_n he_o have_v then_o which_o we_o have_v now_o and_o it_o seem_v that_o address_v his_o own_o belief_n and_o doctrine_n according_o vary_v not_o in_o judgement_n any_o whit_n from_o we_o who_o make_v scripture_n the_o rule_n of_o our_o belief_n and_o in_o doubtful_a point_n that_o require_v determination_n appeal_v unto_o the_o catholic_a church_n for_o judgement_n in_o that_o rule_n this_o be_v not_o contrary_a to_o any_o deduction_n from_o much_o 2._o less_o to_o the_o express_a word_n of_o our_o own_o bible_n matt._n 23._o 2._o the_o scribe_n &_o pharisee_n sit_v in_o moses_n chair_n all_o therefore_o whatsoever_o they_o bid_v you_o observe_v that_o observe_v and_o do_v therefore_o etc._n etc._n do_v you_o find_v either_o faith_n or_o judgement_n pastor_n or_o church_n express_o name_v in_o this_o text_n look_v once_o more_o and_o look_v back_o upon_o your_o undertake_n their_o refutation_n by_o express_a word_n of_o their_o own_o bible_n for_o word_n express_v you_o fail_v undertake_v more_o than_o you_o can_v perform_v a_o ordinary_a trick_n of_o catholic_a braggadochioe_n let_v we_o see_v if_o consequent_n will_v hold_v the_o tewgh_v any_o better_a those_o that_o answer_v the_o church_n and_o her_o pastor_n in_o your_o thesis_n be_v the_o scribe_n &_o pharisee_n in_o your_o proof_n who_o whole_a and_o some_o head_n and_o tail_n be_v doctor_n and_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n with_o you_o but_o of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n it_o must_v be_v suppose_v for_o we_o disclaim_v any_o conformation_n at_o all_o with_o they_o and_o do_v you_o suppose_v that_o our_o saviour_n approve_v they_o so_o well_o as_o that_o he_o will_v have_v have_v the_o jew_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n to_o rely_v upon_o they_o and_o their_o decision_n as_o pastor_n of_o the_o church_n in_o point_n of_o faith_n if_o this_o be_v his_o meaning_n what_o mean_v he_o then_o to_o give_v warning_n elsewhere_o take_v heed_n of_o the_o leaven_n of_o the_o pharisee_n that_o be_v as_o the_o holy_a ghost_n expound_v it_o of_o their_o doctrine_n if_o the_o question_n have_v be_v put_v be_v thou_o the_o christ_n will_v he_o have_v send_v they_o unto_o the_o scribe_n or_o pharisee_n for_o resolution_n or_o advise_v the_o people_n to_o believe_v on_o they_o we_o find_v it_o not_o practise_v the_o contrary_a we_o do_v what_o then_o be_v this_o text_n in_o consequence_n unto_o the_o point_n sure_o he_o mean_v no_o more_o but_o this_o and_o in_o that_o he_o will_v declare_v himself_o a_o protestant_n whatsoever_o they_o bid_v you_o observe_v out_o of_o moses_n observe_v that_o be_v so_o long_o as_o they_o teach_v but_o scripture_n they_o must_v he_o hear_v if_o there_o they_o fail_v
ecclesiastical_a and_o civil_a not_o any_o thing_n to_o purpose_n for_o church_n or_o for_o her_o pastor_n propound_v the_o last_o out_o of_o 2_o thessaly_n 2._o 15._o be_v wont_n to_o pass_v currant_n for_o unwritten_a verity_n now_o it_o come_v in_o limp_a for_o church_n and_o pastor_n resolve_v where_o it_o shall_v stand_v and_o then_o we_o will_v rank_n it_o in_o degree_n and_o desert_n so_o i_o will_v can_v i_o tell_v where_o to_o find_v they_o they_o same_o walk_v in_o tenebris_fw-la i_o can_v speak_v with_o they_o by_o clear_a daylight_n in_o brief_a what_o they_o affirm_v i_o profess_v i_o can_v tell_v i_o know_v many_o thing_n which_o they_o affirm_v in_o those_o remember_v book_n and_o passage_n but_o what_o the_o man_n here_o mean_v i_o can_v but_o guess_v at_o so_o dissolute_a and_o at_o random_n be_v his_o quotation_n as_o if_o to_o name_n and_o muster_v up_o some_o father_n be_v enough_o as_o i_o can_v conjecture_v so_o come_v i_o to_o they_o if_o i_o miss_v i_o must_v have_v better_a information_n hereafter_o gregory_n nazianz._n in_o oratione_fw-la excusat_fw-la say_v somewhat_o excusat_fw-la i_o resolve_v of_o and_o to_o some_o purpose_n but_o what_o i_o certain_o do_v not_o know_v nor_o yet_o which_o oration_n be_v by_o he_o intend_v for_o i_o find_v not_o any_o under_o that_o title_n in_o billius_n who_o these_o man_n follow_v unless_o it_o be_v one_o of_o his_o apology_n in_o the_o former_a of_o which_o two_o i_o find_v somewhat_o that_o may_v look_v that_o way_n this_o in_o ecclesijs_fw-la constituit_fw-la ut_fw-la alij_fw-la pascantur_fw-la &_o pareant_fw-la quibus_fw-la videlicet_fw-la id_fw-la conducit_fw-la ac_fw-la cum_fw-la sermone_fw-la tum_fw-la opere_fw-la ad_fw-la officium_fw-la diriguntur_fw-la alij_fw-la autem_fw-la ad_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la perfectionem_fw-la pastor_n ac_fw-la magistri_fw-la sunt_fw-la qui_fw-la virtute_fw-la coniunctioneque_fw-la ac_fw-la apud_fw-la deum_fw-la familiaritate_fw-la vulgo_fw-la sublimiores_fw-la sunt_fw-la rationem_fw-la animae_fw-la ad_fw-la corpus_fw-la aut_fw-la mentis_fw-la ad_fw-la animam_fw-la obtinentes_fw-la a_o thing_n reasonable_a profitable_a and_o of_o absolute_a necessity_n for_o the_o be_v of_o a_o church_n to_o have_v a_o distinction_n of_o pastor_n and_o people_n some_o to_o teach_v some_o to_o be_v teach_v to_o lead_v to_o be_v lead_v to_o rule_v to_o obey_v a_o thing_n establish_v practise_v and_o defend_v in_o england_n no_o otherwise_o then_o be_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n and_o be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n at_o this_o day_n unless_o we_o can_v see_v more_o show_v we_o in_o gregory_n nazianzen_n we_o have_v see_v but_o little_a unto_o any_o purpose_n yet_o and_o other_o thing_n then_o this_o i_o know_v not_o tertullian_n next_o to_o be_v see_v against_o heretic_n prescribe_v haeret_fw-la the_o rule_n of_o faith_n so_o do_v we_o appeal_v to_o the_o first_o institution_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n of_o christ_n in_o his_o apostle_n and_o to_o their_o doctrine_n then_o teach_v and_o deliver_v and_o so_o do_v we_o above_o all_o primery_o thereto_o he_o descend_v unto_o succession_n so_o will_v we_o not_o any_o prescription_n insist_v upon_o by_o tertullian_n but_o i_o embrace_v it_o and_o dare_v appeal_v unto_o it_o and_o stand_v to_o the_o award_n thereof_o exit_fw-la fide_fw-la personas_fw-la approbantes_fw-la non_fw-la ex_fw-la personis_fw-la fidem_fw-la be_v this_o that_o which_o he_o will_v have_v with_o tertul._n out_o of_o chapter_n 21._o what_o christ_n reveal_v unto_o his_o apostle_n to_o be_v preach_v i_o will_v prescribe_v that_o it_o ought_v to_o be_v prove_v no_o otherwise_o then_o by_o testimony_n of_o those_o church_n which_o be_v first_o found_v by_o the_o apostle_n in_o their_o preach_n partly_o by_o word_n of_o mouth_n and_o partly_o afterward_o by_o writing_n if_o this_o be_v the_o place_n of_o tertullian_n mean_v by_o the_o gagger_n than_o cushat_fw-la a_o god_n name_n we_o accept_v the_o condition_n and_o join_v issue_n and_o come_v on_o with_o tertullian_n as_o it_o ensue_v si_fw-la haec_fw-la ita_fw-la sunt_fw-la if_o this_o be_v so_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v that_o all_o doctrine_n which_o concord_v with_o those_o apostolical_a mother_n and_o original_a church_n be_v true_a as_o be_v that_o selfsame_o which_o the_o church_n receive_v from_o the_o apostle_n they_o from_o christ_n christ_n from_o god_n whatsoever_o other_o doctrine_n be_v beside_o this_o be_v false_a against_o the_o truth_n of_o the_o apostle_n christ_n and_o god_n thus_o he_o thus_o we_o i_o desire_v no_o other_o judge_n or_o better_a trial_n join_v issue_n when_o you_o will_v or_o when_o you_o dare_v i_o accept_v the_o condition_n for_o any_o point_n controvert_v betwixt_o the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o rome_n at_o this_o day_n for_o 500_o year_n after_o christ_n at_o least_o discipulus_fw-la magistrum_fw-la cyprian_n come_v next_o to_o 3._o be_v see_v in_o his_o 55._o epistle_n or_o as_o your_o author_n suggest_v it_o lib._n 1._o epist_n 3._o in_o which_o epistle_n i_o can_v pitch_v upon_o place_n more_o than_o one_o that_o happy_o you_o may_v intend_v for_o they_o look_v this_o way_n but_o that_o which_o be_v purpose_v i_o suppose_v be_v this_o in_o the_o second_o sect_n actum_fw-la est_fw-la de_fw-la episcopatus_fw-la vigore_fw-la &_o de_fw-fr ecclesiae_fw-la gubernandae_fw-la sublimi_fw-la ac_fw-la divinâ_fw-la potestate_fw-la the_o rather_o because_o the_o text_n of_o scripture_n here_o cite_v be_v by_o pamelius_n the_o roman_a scholiast_n there_o apply_v though_o to_o no_o purpose_n for_o it_o be_v the_o receive_a doctrine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n that_o in_o the_o office_n of_o a_o bishop_n there_o shall_v be_v that_o vigour_n as_o he_o call_v it_o and_o that_o the_o call_v itself_o be_v divine_a and_o a_o high_a call_n nor_o do_v any_o papist_n living_n more_o respect_n and_o approve_v that_o say_n of_o saint_n cyprian_n in_o the_o same_o epistle_n sect._n 19_o then_o our_o church_n of_o england_n do_v non_fw-fr est_fw-fr ad_fw-la hoc_fw-la deponenda_fw-la catholicae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la dignitas_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o honour_n and_o the_o dignity_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v abase_v so_o far_o nor_o the_o unspotted_a majesty_n of_o the_o flock_n of_o christ_n or_o priest-like_a power_n and_o authority_n to_o be_v so_o deject_a that_o man_n consist_v out_o of_o the_o church_n shall_v dare_v profess_v they_o will_v pass_v censure_n upon_o a_o bishop_n of_o the_o church_n that_o heretic_n shall_v presume_v to_o censure_v christian_n wound_v man_n judge_v the_o sound_n lapse_v man_n those_o that_o never_o fall_v guilty_a person_n judge_v the_o judge_n impious_a sacrilegist_n the_o priest_n this_o you_o approve_v so_o do_v we_o to_o what_o end_n do_v you_o will_v we_o see_v saint_n cyprian_n or_o saint_n augustine_n against_o cresconius_n the_o donatist_n 5._o if_o yet_o we_o can_v tell_v where_o in_o special_a and_o what_o to_o see_v be_v this_o that_o which_o you_o mean_v cap._n 33._o we_o uphold_v the_o truth_n of_o scripture_n when_o we_o do_v that_o which_o the_o universal_a church_n command_v recommend_v by_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n so_o far_o as_o that_o because_o the_o scripture_n can_v deceive_v a_o man_n that_o will_v not_o willing_o err_v in_o this_o question_n obscure_a shall_v go_v and_o inquire_v what_o the_o church_n say_v of_o it_o if_o this_o be_v the_o place_n as_o in_o all_o likelihood_n it_o be_v we_o subscribe_v unto_o it_o with_o all_o our_o heart_n for_o in_o divinity_n question_n controversi_fw-la juris_fw-la there_o must_v be_v a_o judge_n to_o determine_v that_o we_o say_v be_v the_o church_n whether_o part_n contend_v have_v law_n &_o right_n that_o be_v consent_n of_o scripture_n upon_o his_o side_n and_o we_o profess_v with_o the_o same_o saint_n august_n in_o his_o 118._o disputare_fw-la contra_fw-la id_fw-la quod_fw-la universa_fw-la ecclesià_fw-la sentit_fw-la insolentissimae_fw-la est_fw-la insaniae_fw-la a_o most_o in_o solent_fw-la frantic_a fool_n be_v he_o that_o will_v dispute_v against_o the_o tenant_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n sir_n bring_v we_o to_o the_o trial_n and_o gag_n we_o if_o you_o can_v with_o this_o resolution_n of_o saint_n augustine_n belie_v we_o not_o for_o our_o opinion_n against_o your_o knowledge_n but_o all_o this_o while_n we_o have_v see_v in_o the_o father_n what_o we_o can_v find_v or_o imagine_v yet_o we_o never_o see_v clear_o till_o the_o close_a drink_n be_v your_o errand_n but_o draff_n will_v you_o have_v your_o plea_n have_v be_v for_o the_o church_n and_o pastor_n your_o intent_n be_v mere_o for_o the_o pope_n for_o so_o saint_n anselm_n lib._n the_o incarnate_a cap._n 1._o write_v unto_o pope_n vrban_n say_v unto_o he_o unto_o no_o other_o be_v more_o right_o refer_v to_o be_v correct_v whatsoever_o arise_v in_o the_o church_n against_o the_o catholic_a faith_n what_o be_v this_o say_n of_o s._n anselm_n unto_o we_o in_o matter_n of_o faith_n
shall_v not_o depart_v be_v god_n promise_n man_n promise_n reciprocal_a be_v i_o will_v not_o depart_v from_o they_o if_o i_o depart_v that_o be_v if_o man_n fail_v they_o may_v and_o shall_v depart_v god_n be_v then_o free_a now_o this_o suppose_a what_o assurance_n be_v there_o for_o my_o word_n shall_v not_o depart_v &_o c_o so_o your_o first_o text_n be_v mistake_v peradventure_o in_o the_o meaning_n but_o without_o peradventure_o in_o the_o allegation_n it_o be_v isaiah_n 5●_n 21._o not_o as_o you_o tender_v it_o from_o your_o adviser_n 49._o 21._o and_o last_o it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n in_o particular_a convert_v unto_o christ_n as_o it_o seem_v by_o saint_n paul_n rom._n 11._o 26._o and_o not_o of_o the_o church_n of_o the_o christian_n already_o convert_v and_o so_o you_o misapply_v as_o well_o as_o mistake_v but_o more_o ridiculous_o in_o your_o second_o text_n john_n 14._o 16._o for_o have_v you_o read_v or_o hear_v that_o ever_o any_o protestant_n maintain_v that_o the_o holy_a ghost_n can_v err_v i_o suppose_v not_o i_o believe_v you_o be_v not_o so_o much_o past_o shame_n to_o say_v so_o and_o yet_o your_o conclusion_n be_v so_o the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n can_v err_v for_o have_v recite_v the_o text_n of_o the_o gospel_n your_o illation_n be_v therefore_o the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n have_v abide_v for_o ever_o and_o shall_v abide_v for_o ever_o with_o the_o church_n and_o consequent_o can_v err_v what_o sir_n can_v err_v to_o my_o understanding_n the_o spirit_n of_o truth_n can_v err_v can_v you_o understand_v it_o otherwise_o but_o let_v your_o barbarisme_n go_v by_o to_o the_o point_n i_o answer_v first_o you_o fail_v and_o that_o confess_o in_o your_o undertake_n it_o be_v but_o consequent_o the_o church_n can_v err_v therefore_o confess_v not_o express_o second_o i_o answer_v out_o of_o the_o text_n itself_o this_o promise_n be_v for_o comfort_n not_o instruction_n the_o comforter_n shall_v abide_v for_o ever_o for_o christ_n there_o speak_v of_o affliction_n which_o shall_v ensue_v three_o be_v it_o punctual_o for_o direction_n we_o may_v rejoine_v it_o be_v a_o temporary_a promise_n a_o personal_a privilege_n to_o the_o apostle_n you_o think_v we_o will_v say_v so_o belike_o suppose_v we_o have_v no_o other_o shift_n silly_a man_n like_o yourself_o therefore_o you_o come_v in_o with_o by_o way_n of_o prevention_n but_o the_o apostle_n themselves_o can_v not_o abide_v for_o ever_o poor_a fool_n that_o know_v not_o there_o be_v duplex_fw-la aeternum_fw-la frequent_a in_o scripture_n god_n ever_o and_o man_n ever_o that_o for_o everlasting_a as_o god_n be_v this_o for_o the_o term_n of_o his_o be_v so_o for_o ever_o be_v thus_o no_o more_o then_o while_o you_o be_v all_o the_o day_n of_o your_o life_n but_o we_o seek_v no_o advantage_n we_o will_v not_o take_v it_o we_o grant_v god_n spirit_n eternal_o assistant_n to_o the_o catholic_a church_n then_o represent_v in_o the_o apostle_n and_o therefore_o we_o admit_v that_o you_o belie_v we_o in_o your_o proposition_n the_o church_n can_v err_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o catholic_a church_n as_o be_v express_v the_o three_o text_n in_o order_n isaiah_n 35._o 8._o be_v so_o far_o from_o express_v the_o not_o err_v of_o the_o church_n that_o it_o be_v a_o question_n though_o such_o a_o novice_n as_o you_o know_v it_o not_o whether_o it_o be_v to_o be_v take_v of_o the_o church_n at_o all_o hierome_n in_o his_o comment_n expound_v it_o of_o christ_n who_o say_v of_o himself_o john_n 14._o i_o be_o the_o way_n the_o truth_n the_o life_n a_o high_a way_n shall_v be_v there_o and_o a_o way_n and_o it_o shall_v be_v call_v the_o way_n of_o holiness_n the_o unclean_a shall_v not_o pass_v over_o it_o but_o it_o shall_v be_v for_o those_o the_o way_n fare_v man_n though_o fool_n shall_v not_o err_v therein_o who_o tell_v you_o that_o this_o way_n be_v the_o church_n why_o not_o the_o scripture_n which_o be_v also_o a_o way_n and_o call_v a_o way_n as_o to_o my_o remembrance_n the_o church_n be_v not_o ibi_fw-la erit_fw-la semita_fw-la &_o via_fw-la mundissima_fw-la quae_fw-la sancta_fw-la vocabitur_fw-la etc._n etc._n there_o shall_v be_v a_o path_n say_v hierome_n and_o a_o most_o clean_a way_n which_o shall_v be_v call_v holy_a and_o which_o say_v of_o himself_o i_o be_o the_o way_n by_o which_o way_n the_o pollute_v can_v pass_v where_o also_o we_o read_v it_o speak_v in_o the_o psalm_n bless_v be_v the_o undefiled_a in_o the_o way_n and_o this_o way_n that_o be_v our_o god_n shall_v be_v unto_o we_o so_o direct_v so_o plain_a so_o open_a and_o champion_n that_o no_o wander_n shall_v be_v there_o fool_n and_o silly_a man_n may_v walk_v therein_o unto_o who_o in_o the_o proverb_n wisdom_n speak_v thus_o if_o there_o be_v any_o little_a one_o let_v they_o come_v unto_o i_o and_o she_o have_v speak_v unto_o the_o fool_n come_v you_o and_o eat_v of_o my_o bread_n thus_o hierome_n upon_o the_o place_n tertullian_n in_o 4._o against_o martion_n be_v indifferent_a for_o christ_n the_o head_n of_o the_o church_n or_o faith_n in_o christ_n the_o life_n of_o the_o church_n your_o worship_n sir_n gagger_n out_o of_o your_o authority_n cast_v it_o mere_o upon_o the_o church_n satis_fw-la pro_fw-la imperio_fw-la if_o you_o can_v outbear_v it_o howsoever_o it_o be_v not_o express_v as_o it_o shall_v be_v not_o to_o purpose_n if_o it_o be_v express_v our_o question_n be_v not_o whether_o fool_n can_v err_v but_o whether_o the_o church_n can_v err_v the_o church_n have_v often_o be_v compare_v to_o a_o ship_n and_o now_o at_o last_o by_o you_o make_v a_o ship_n of_o fool_n content_a so_o you_o be_v pilot_n in_o that_o ship_n sir_n foole._n once_o at_o length_n you_o right_o bid_v we_o go_v see_v more_o 13._o for_o the_o text_n of_o john_n 16._o 13._o be_v more_o express_a than_o all_o the_o former_a he_o shall_v lead_v you_o into_o all_o truth_n but_o what_o if_o this_o text_n concern_v not_o truth_n upon_o earth_n but_o truth_n in_o heaven_n what_o become_v then_o of_o your_o not_o err_v augustine_n and_o bede_n incline_v that_o way_n what_o if_o it_o be_v personal_a unto_o the_o apostle_n alone_o not_o to_o the_o church_n or_o their_o successor_n he_o will_v show_v you_o the_o thing_n to_o come_v and_o i_o have_v many_o thing_n to_o say_v unto_o you_o but_o you_o can_v bear_v they_o now_o these_o &_o such_o like_a passage_n do_v more_o than_o seem_v to_o conclude_v it_o unto_o they_o what_o if_o he_o mean_v but_o all_o thing_n that_o be_v necessary_a and_o convenient_a for_o they_o to_o know_v so_o theophylact_n euthymius_n and_o other_o in_o this_o sort_n the_o church_n be_v eternal_o direct_v so_o the_o church_n direct_v can_v err_v matth._n 18._o 17._o it_o be_v command_v by_o authority_n tell_v the_o church_n and_o hear_v the_o church_n no_o good_a proof_n the_o church_n can_v err_v for_o the_o scribe_n and_o pharisee_n be_v to_o be_v hear_v and_o obey_v yet_o have_v no_o assurance_n of_o infallibility_n king_n and_o prince_n be_v to_o be_v obey_v yet_o have_v they_o fall_v into_o great_a enormity_n ephes_n 5._o 27._o the_o church_n be_v say_v to_o be_v glorious_a without_o spot_n or_o wrinkle_n or_o blame_v which_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v de_fw-fr to●o_fw-la integrato_fw-la of_o the_o part_n in_o heaven_n and_o earth_n of_o the_o time_n to_o come_v rather_o than_o present_v without_o blame_n yet_o not_o without_o wrinkle_n even_o here_o for_o error_n may_v be_v where_o blame_n be_v none_o isaiah_n 9_o 7._o the_o kingdom_n of_o christ_n be_v to_o be_v establish_v with_o judgement_n and_o with_o justice_n for_o ever_o and_o yet_o i_o know_v no_o such_o privilege_n annex_v to_o judgement_n or_o justice_n of_o infallibility_n no_o more_o than_o ezech._n 37._o 26._o to_o a_o covenant_n of_o peace_n a_o everlasting_a covenant_n to_o multiply_v of_o they_o or_o place_v god_n sanctuary_n among_o they_o for_o ever_o luk._n 22._o 32._o and_o matth._n 23._o 3._o what_o correspondency_n have_v they_o one_o with_o another_o not_o to_o speak_v of_o reference_n unto_o the_o point_n in_o the_o former_a peter_n faith_n be_v pray_v for_o that_o it_o may_v not_o fail_v and_o yet_o peter_n deny_v christ_n jesus_n if_o peter_n be_v not_o the_o church_n what_o make_v this_o text_n among_o the_o rabble_n if_o peter_n be_v the_o church_n may_v err_v as_o peter_n fail_v though_o not_o eternal_o one_o or_o other_o in_o the_o latter_a the_o pharisee_n must_v be_v hear_v and_o therefore_o will_v you_o say_v they_o err_v not_o if_o they_o err_v as_o doubtless_o they_o do_v then_o to_o what_o purpose_n be_v they_o pretend_v for_o not_o err_v of_o the_o church_n much_o good_a may_v the_o
perform_v what_o service_n in_o his_o course_n be_v determine_v and_o assign_v by_o lot_n it_o fall_v to_o zachary_n to_o burn_v incense_n as_o to_o other_o to_o offer_v sacrifice_n now_o the_o temple_n of_o jerusalem_n have_v diverse_a division_n as_o we_o have_v in_o our_o church_n isle_n chancel_n revestry_n these_o be_v sever_v by_o vayles_n traverse_n or_o wall_n the_o first_o be_v the_o sanctuary_n or_o most_o holy_a place_n no_o people_n or_o priest_n go_v in_o thither_o at_o all_o but_o only_o one_o once_o a_o year_n and_o no_o often_o than_o once_o that_o one_o day_n the_o high_a priest_n and_o no_o other_o man_n the_o second_o be_v call_v the_o holy_a place_n the_o altar_n of_o incense_n stand_v there_o whereat_o the_o priest_n offer_v incense_n unto_o god_n in_o their_o course_n as_o zachary_n here_o do_v and_o nothing_o else_o neither_o read_v the_o law_n nor_o expound_v of_o it_o nor_o teach_v the_o people_n nor_o pray_v with_o they_o nor_o say_v any_o devotion_n for_o they_o it_o be_v no_o custom_n or_o part_n of_o service_n there_o a_o three_o division_n be_v atrium_fw-la sacerdotum_fw-la the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n into_o which_o none_o come_v but_o only_a priest_n and_o they_o to_o offer_v sacrifice_n only_o the_o people_n come_v not_o so_o high_a but_o into_o a_o four_o court_n atrium_fw-la populi_fw-la or_o mundorum_fw-la in_o which_o they_o be_v pray_v at_o that_o present_a so_o betwixt_o the_o place_n in_o which_o zachary_n offer_v incense_n which_o be_v sever_v by_o a_o veil_n and_o that_o place_n in_o which_o the_o people_n pray_v there_o be_v some_o distance_n what_o marvel_v if_o the_o people_n can_v not_o hear_v he_o but_o as_o be_v touch_v they_o need_v not_o for_o he_o be_v not_o to_o read_v expound_v or_o say_v any_o part_n of_o service_n within_o but_o only_o to_o burn_v incense_n and_o no_o more_o there_o be_v that_o teach_v they_o beside_o they_o do_v it_o in_o the_o place_n for_o the_o purpose_n in_o the_o people_n court_n and_o in_o that_o tongue_n which_o the_o people_n understand_v so_o our_o saviour_n teach_v in_o the_o synagogue_n and_o in_o the_o temple_n be_v understand_v and_o moses_n be_v read_v in_o the_o same_o form_n and_o language_n that_o every_o one_o understand_v if_o it_o have_v be_v add_v that_o the_o people_n be_v pray_v in_o latin_a greek_a or_o in_o some_o other_o exotic_a language_n this_o tale-teller_n have_v note_v somewhat_o to_o purpose_n this_o which_o he_o say_v and_o note_v i●_n as_o much_o to_o purpose_n as_o mother_n bumly_n hit_v a_o hen_n in_o the_o forehead_n levit._n 16._o 17._o and_o there_o shall_v be_v no_o man_n in_o the_o tabernacle_n assistant_n of_o the_o congregation_n when_o he_o go_v in_o to_o make_v a_o atonement_n in_o the_o holy_a place_n until_o he_o convent_n and_o have_v make_v a_o atonement_n for_o himself_o for_o his_o household_n and_o for_o all_o the_o congregation_n of_o israel_n therefore_o conclude_v aron_n must_v go_v in_o alone_a for_o of_o aron_n and_o his_o successor_n be_v this_o speak_v when_o he_o go_v he_o must_v go_v alone_o now_o what_o be_v this_o to_o purpose_n therefore_o it_o be_v not_o forbid_v in_o holy_a scripture_n that_o the_o public_a service_n of_o the_o church_n shall_v be_v in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n a_o poke_n full_a a_o plum_n no_o foot_n nor_o footstep_n of_o such_o a_o inference_n at_o least_o let_v we_o have_v it_o with_o this_o exception_n unless_o at_o one_o time_n only_o of_o the_o year_n for_o only_o once_o what_o the_o high_a priest_n hither_o but_o to_o purpose_n this_o text_n be_v to_o no_o purpose_n for_o there_o must_v be_v assistant_n where_o the_o service_n be_v in_o a_o unknowen_a tongue_n and_o here_o assistant_n be_v shut_v out_o of_o door_n it_o be_v precise_a there_o shall_v be_v no_o man_n in_o the_o tabernacle_n when_o he_o go_v in_o if_o no_o man_n there_o no_o seer_n no_o hearer_n present_v then_o what_o need_v we_o talk_v of_o tongue_n either_o understand_v or_o not_o understand_v second_o the_o textis_fw-la too_o no_o purpose_n for_o it_o speak_v but_o of_o a_o piece_n of_o jewish_a service_n and_o of_o such_o a_o piece_n as_o be_v perform_v by_o hand_n only_o without_o lip_n or_o tongue_n and_o then_o it_o be_v private_a betwixt_o god_n and_o the_o priest_n priest_n nor_o people_n be_v agent_n or_o assistant_n at_o it_o let_v your_o morrow_n massmunger_n when_o they_o mass_n it_o alone_o use_v japonian_n or_o mexico_n language_n if_o they_o list_v and_o when_o they_o make_v private_a intercession_n unto_o god_n speak_v in_o any_o of_o the_o dialect_v that_o be_v at_o babel_n but_o in_o the_o public_a service_n of_o the_o church_n piety_n and_o practice_n reason_n and_o religion_n require_v a_o tongue_n that_o be_v understand_v of_o the_o assistant_n that_o they_o may_v say_v amen_o to_o what_o be_v speak_v it_o be_v a_o trick_n of_o vanity_n a_o idle_a flourish_n what_o shall_v i_o need_v to_o produce_v authority_n of_o father_n when_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o christian_a world_n for_o many_o hundred_o year_n together_o be_v contrary_a unto_o protestant_n a_o very_a strange_a practice_n of_o which_o there_o be_v no_o constat_fw-la let_v but_o one_o father_n say_v so_o and_o i_o yield_v the_o buckler_n inopem_fw-la te_fw-la copia_fw-la fecit_fw-la such_o plenty_n you_o have_v as_o have_v make_v you_o poor_a if_o you_o name_v i_o one_o father_n that_o think_v so_o or_o write_v so_o i_o will_v go_v with_o you_o to_o mass_n to_o morrow_n and_o acknowledge_v pope_n vrban_n for_o absolute_a monarch_n direct_o over_o all_o the_o earth_n i_o can_v but_o laugh_v at_o your_o insolent_a and_o impudent_a folly_n that_o blush_v not_o to_o write_v what_o need_v i_o produce_v authority_n of_o father_n i_o say_v again_o do_v name_n i_o but_o one_o that_o squint_v that_o way_n nedum_fw-la that_o say_v it_o positive_o that_o the_o service_n of_o the_o church_n have_v be_v or_o may_v be_v in_o a_o tongue_n unknown_a and_o have_v with_o you_o to_o mass_n next_o morrow_n vii_o that_o saint_n peter_n be_v not_o first_o or_o chief_a among_o the_o apostle_n and_o that_o none_o be_v great_a or_o lesser_a among_o the_o twelve_o first_o or_o chief_a how_o ignorant_o speak_v as_o if_o two_o word_n of_o one_o signification_n first_o and_o chief_a be_v not_o ever_o of_o equal_a extent_n reuben_n be_v the_o first_o but_o juda_n chief_a first_o and_o chief_a in_o some_o thing_n be_v not_o ever_o so_o in_o all_o peter_n be_v first_o but_o john_n chief_a in_o respect_n of_o christ_n special_a and_o peculiar_a affection_n to_o he_o above_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o apostle_n it_o be_v grant_v peter_n be_v first_o call_v to_o be_v etc._n a_o apostle_n though_o not_o first_o to_o be_v a_o disciple_n in_o rank_n and_o reckon_n we_o grant_v he_o first_o as_o in_o your_o first_o text_n of_o matth._n 10._o 2._o no_o protestant_a living_n will_v deny_v this_o nor_o fall_v so_o foul_a with_o their_o own_o bible_n persuade_v not_o yourself_o they_o will_v do_v so_o but_o this_o precedency_n will_v neither_o serve_v your_o turn_n nor_o content_v you_o another_o chiefedome_n must_v be_v cast_v upon_o which_o you_o collect_v by_o sequel_n for_o you_o have_v it_o not_o express_v out_o of_o luke_n 22._o 32._o and_o 26._o and_o yet_o at_o last_o you_o fleet_n back_o to_o his_o first-ship_n in_o place_n peter_n be_v ever_o name_v first_o thus_o you_o be_v not_o resolve_v what_o to_o have_v and_o how_o can_v your_o proselyte_n tell_v in_o what_o to_o trust_v you_o but_o that_o you_o lead_v they_o hoodwink_v by_o the_o nose_n luke_n 22._o 26._o the_o word_n be_v great_a be_v chief_a do_v evident_o show_v that_o among_o the_o twelve_o one_o be_v indeed_o ter_z than_z another_o and_o so_o account_v by_o christ_n himself_o prove_v that_o by_o christ_n himself_o those_o word_n insist_v on_o do_v not_o prove_v it_o for_o they_o may_v be_v a_o irony_n or_o a_o concession_n admit_v there_o be_v great_a or_o lesser_a among_o you_o yet_o he_o that_o be_v great_a let_v he_o be_v thus_o or_o thus_o he_o that_o think_v so_o high_o of_o himself_o yet_o let_v he_o do_v thus_o but_o let_v it_o be_v evident_a and_o grant_v that_o one_o be_v great_a than_o another_o among_o they_o this_o greatness_n yet_o be_v far_o short_a of_o that_o transcendent_a greatness_n give_v to_o saint_n peter_n let_v saint_n peter_n be_v the_o man_n invest_v with_o that_o greatness_n yet_o quousque_fw-la what_o bound_n and_o limitation_n have_v it_o since_o the_o great_a greatness_n under_o sun_n be_v not_o without_o some_o circumscription_n it_o be_v not_o question_v whether_o saint_n peter_n be_v great_a whether_o the_o great_a among_o those_o great_a one_o we_o grant_v it_o but_o the_o controversy_n be_v about_o the_o extent_n and_o
from_o all_o thy_o sin_n if_o this_o be_v acknowledge_v the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o communion_n book_n and_o practice_n of_o our_o church_n according_o as_o it_o be_v injurious_a be_v those_o opposite_n unto_o truth_n and_o liar_n against_o their_o own_o knowledge_n that_o impute_v it_o to_o we_o which_o we_o be_v confess_v to_o deny_v that_o none_o but_o god_n can_v forgive_v sin_n this_o must_v proceed_v out_o of_o faction_n bible_n or_o that_o which_o be_v worse_o but_o this_o fellow_n proceed_v upon_o a_o further_a extremity_n to_o strengthen_v a_o truth_n in_o itself_o with_o a_o lie_n make_v by_o himself_o that_o our_o doctrine_n be_v contrary_a to_o our_o bibles_n matth._n 9_o 3._o 8._o to_o prove_v against_o we_o that_o which_o we_o deny_v not_o viz._n this_o power_n delegated_a unto_o priesthood_n thus_o you_o allege_v but_o when_o the_o multitude_n see_v it_o they_o marvel_v and_o glorify_a god_n who_o have_v give_v such_o power_n unto_o man_n as_o to_o forgive_v sin_n which_o word_n as_o to_o forgive_v sin_n be_v not_o in_o our_o bibles_n out_o of_o which_o you_o undertake_v to_o prove_v your_o assertion_n nor_o in_o your_o own_o bibles_n follow_v which_o you_o will_n you_o have_v add_v they_o out_o of_o your_o store_n to_o serve_v your_o own_o turn_n contrary_a to_o scripture_n and_o further_o contrary_a to_o sense_n because_o that_o thing_n which_o amaze_v they_o then_o for_o which_o they_o glorify_v god_n be_v a_o thing_n sensible_a visible_a apprehend_v of_o all_o when_o they_o see_v it_o now_o see_v sin_n forgive_v they_o can_v not_o hear_v it_o pronounce_v believe_v it_o they_o may_v second_o the_o power_n there_o give_v be_v not_o ordinary_a as_o that_o of_o absolution_n be_v but_o extraordinary_a and_o miraculous_a to_o heal_v the_o sick_a peter_n and_o his_o successor_n have_v that_o but_o very_o few_o or_o none_o have_v this_o you_o know_v it_o be_v answer_v a_o pope_n once_o when_o he_o show_v a_o mass_n of_o gold_n and_o silver_n to_o one_o and_o add_v the_o church_n can_v not_o say_v now_o silver_n and_o gold_n have_v i_o none_o no_o quoth_v the_o other_o nor_o can_v it_o say_v arise_v and_o walk_v this_o be_v that_o power_n there_o mention_v can_v you_o see_v it_o not_o that_o of_o absolution_n ordinary_a that_o of_o joh._n 20._o 21._o matth._n 16._o 19_o give_v that_o power_n unto_o the_o apostle_n to_o forgive_v sin_n but_o may_v it_o not_o 19_o be_v except_v it_o be_v a_o personal_a privilege_n i_o answer_v not_o so_o for_o i_o believe_v it_o not_o the_o collation_n be_v original_a to_o they_o as_o to_o those_o from_o who_o it_o be_v to_o be_v convey_v unto_o other_o but_o some_o be_v happy_o of_o that_o opinion_n and_o it_o may_v seem_v probable_a unto_o other_o you_o shall_v have_v clear_v the_o text_n of_o that_o objection_n and_o then_o your_o performance_n have_v be_v to_o purpose_n matth._n 16._o 19_o may_v be_v understand_v you_o mean_v of_o sin_n forgive_v but_o yet_o only_o secondary_o for_o thesi_fw-la secunda_fw-la because_o we_o read_v in_o the_o evangelist_n whatsoever_o and_o not_o whosoever_o this_o place_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o any_o knot_n whatsoever_o indeed_o rather_o of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o sword_n than_o of_o the_o key_n and_o it_o seem_v that_o if_o this_o place_n be_v not_o personal_a to_o peter_n and_o his_o successor_n as_o by_o this_o allegation_n for_o forgive_a it_o neither_o be_v nor_o can_v be_v than_o our_o most_o holy_a father_n have_v lose_v a_o main_a pillar_n of_o his_o papacy_n peculiar_a to_o saint_n peter_n and_o his_o successor_n so_o these_o madianites_fw-la sheath_n their_o sword_n one_o in_o another_o side_n and_o cross_v themselves_o in_o their_o own_o position_n in_o matth._n 18._o 18._o the_o text_n be_v so_o express_v to_o the_o purpose_n that_o origen_n chrysostome_n theophilact_n and_o anastasius_n understand_v it_o of_o all_o christian_n whosoever_o that_o sundry_a roman_a catholic_n if_o maldonate_fw-it deceive_v we_o not_o understand_v it_o of_o no_o more_o than_o civil_a policy_n go_v take_v it_o whatsoever_o you_o bind_v on_o earth_n shall_v be_v bind_v in_o heaven_n and_o whatsoever_o you_o lose_v in_o earth_n it_o shall_v be_v loose_v in_o heaven_n as_o yourselves_o will_v for_o the_o power_n and_o execution_n of_o the_o key_n we_o deny_v not_o in_o any_o sort_n that_o power_n be_v give_v unto_o mortal_a man_n to_o forgive_v sin_n on_o earth_n nor_o to_o bind_v by_o excommunication_n which_o be_v frequent_o practise_v and_o peradventure_o too_o frequent_o among_o us._n unto_o that_o 1_o cor._n 5._o 5._o artic._n 33._o thus_o we_o subscribe_v that_o person_n who_o by_o open_a denunciation_n of_o the_o church_n be_v right_o cut_v off_o from_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n and_o excommunicate_v aught_o to_o be_v avoid_v and_o to_o be_v take_v of_o the_o whole_a multitude_n of_o the_o faithful_a as_o a_o heathen_a and_o a_o publican_n until_o he_o be_v open_o reconcile_v by_o penance_n and_o receive_v into_o the_o church_n by_o a_o judge_n that_o have_v authority_n thereunto_o and_o in_o this_o sort_n saint_n paul_n deliver_v hymenaeus_n and_o alexander_n 1_o timoth._n 1._o 20._o and_o forgive_v the_o incestuous_a corinthian_a 2_o cor._n 2._o 10._o which_o place_n by_o your_o direction_n we_o have_v see_v and_o find_v the_o article_n agree_v with_o they_o as_o for_o 2_o cor._n 5._o 19_o it_o be_v not_o to_o purpose_v of_o forgive_a sin_n by_o delegated_a authority_n unto_o a_o priest_n but_o of_o reconcile_n by_o the_o whole_a office_n and_o function_n of_o the_o ministry_n god_n be_v in_o christ_n say_v the_o apostle_n and_o reconcile_v the_o world_n unto_o himself_o not_o impute_v their_o sin_n unto_o they_o and_o have_v commit_v to_o we_o the_o word_n of_o reconciliation_n so_o we_o have_v see_v either_o nothing_o at_o all_o to_o purpose_n or_o else_o that_o of_o which_o we_o make_v no_o question_n nor_o yet_o do_v any_o at_o all_o as_o little_a in_o father_n that_o affirm_v the_o same_o irenaeus_n same_o lib._n 5._o cap._n 14._o say_v the_o raise_n of_o lazarus_n from_o death_n to_o life_n be_v a_o symbol_n or_o figure_n of_o our_o resurrection_n from_o sin_n to_o god_n he_o say_v no_o more_o that_o i_o can_v see_v or_o find_v ambrose_n lib._n 1._o it_o shall_v be_v the_o penitent_a cap._n 7._o nor_o august_n tract_n 49._o in_o john_n nor_o gregor_n hom_n 26._o in_o euangel_n if_o we_o may_v believe_v bellarmine_n lib._n 3._o the_o penitent_a cap._n 3._o from_o who_o you_o transcribe_v these_o testimony_n without_o consider_v of_o these_o father_n in_o their_o own_o work_n but_o so_o careless_o that_o if_o you_o be_v a_o schoolboy_n lure_n in_o corpore_fw-la for_o you_o refer_v we_o to_o gregor_n hom_n 26._o in_o euangel_n whereas_o bellarmine_n have_v it_o 6._o and_o to_o ambrose_n lib._n de_fw-fr paenitentia_fw-la as_o if_o saint_n ambrose_n have_v write_v but_o one_o book_n of_o that_o argument_n not_o divide_v into_o chapter_n whereas_o bellarmine_n direct_v you_o aright_o to_o the_o seven_o chapter_n of_o his_o 1._o book_n be_v this_o security_n stupidity_n or_o insolency_n in_o you_o or_o what_o be_v it_o xii_o that_o we_o must_v not_o confess_v our_o sin_n but_o only_o unto_o god_n that_o we_o must_v not_o imply_v a_o flat_a negative_a or_o injunction_n rather_o unto_o the_o contrary_a show_v i_o any_o such_o inhibition_n and_o i_o will_v say_v which_o i_o believe_v you_o never_o will_v deserve_v at_o any_o protestant_n hand_n you_o be_v a_o true_a deal_n and_o a_o honest_a man_n otherwise_o you_o be_v that_o you_o be_v and_o so_o will_v be_v still_o the_o most_o that_o have_v be_v say_v be_v that_o private_a confession_n be_v free_a not_o tie_v and_o therefore_o suus_fw-la positivi_fw-la not_o divini_fw-la therefore_o happy_o of_o conveniency_n not_o of_o absolute_a necessity_n that_o in_o a_o private_a confession_n unto_o a_o priest_n a_o peculiar_a enumeration_n of_o all_o sin_n both_o of_o commission_n and_o omission_n with_o all_o circumstance_n and_o accident_n be_v never_o necessary_a necessary_o most_o a_o end_v not_o expedient_a nor_o yet_o all_o thing_n consider_v require_v it_o be_v confess_v that_o all_o priest_n and_o none_o but_o priest_n have_v power_n to_o forgive_v sin_n it_o be_v confess_v that_o private_a confession_n unto_o a_o priest_n be_v of_o very_o ancient_a practice_n in_o the_o church_n of_o excellent_a use_n and_o practice_v be_v discreet_o handle_v we_o refuse_v it_o to_o none_o if_o man_n require_v it_o if_o need_v be_v to_o have_v it_o we_o urge_v it_o and_o persuade_v it_o in_o extreme_n we_o require_v it_o in_o case_n of_o perplexity_n for_o the_o quiet_v of_o man_n disturb_v and_o their_o conscience_n it_o have_v be_v so_o acknowledge_v by_o your_o fellow_n that_o in_o the_o visitation_n of_o the_o sick_a it_o be_v
faciunt_fw-la quod_fw-la secus_fw-la christus_fw-la etc._n etc._n the_o cup_n of_o the_o lord_n communicate_v to_o the_o laity_n and_o again_o quomodo_fw-la possumus_fw-la propter_fw-la christum_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la fundere_fw-la qui_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la christi_fw-la erubescimus_fw-la bibere_fw-la by_o which_o reason_n of_o saint_n cyprian_n no_o roman_a lay-catholique_a can_v shed_v his_o blood_n for_o christ_n that_o never_o drink_v the_o blood_n of_o christ_n which_o argument_n he_o use_v in_o another_o place_n epist_n 54._o sect._n 2._o with_o what_o ground_n can_v we_o teach_v or_o exhort_v they_o to_o shed_v their_o own_o bloudin_fw-mi confess_v the_o name_n of_o christ_n if_o put_v they_o forth_o upon_o that_o service_n we_o deny_v they_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n or_o how_o can_v we_o dispose_v and_o fit_v they_o to_o drink_v the_o cup_n of_o martyrdom_n unless_o we_o first_o admit_v they_o to_o their_o right_n of_o communication_n in_o drink_v the_o lord_n cup_n in_o the_o church_n let_v our_o good_a catholic_n answer_v this_o who_o so_o punctual_o forsooth_o and_o precise_o follow_v the_o step_n of_o antiquity_n without_o any_o swerve_a these_o be_v all_o within_o 300_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o all_o express_v for_o the_o cup._n athanasius_n in_o his_o second_o apology_n be_v accuse_v for_o break_v a_o chalice_n write_v thus_o what_o manner_n of_o cup_n or_o when_o or_o where_o be_v it_o break_v in_o every_o house_n in_o every_o shop_n there_o be_v many_o pot_n any_o which_o if_o a_o man_n break_v he_o commit_v not_o sacrilege_n but_o if_o any_o man_n willing_o break_v the_o sacred_a chalice_n he_o commit_v sacrilege_n but_o that_o chalice_n be_v no_o where_o but_o where_o there_o be_v a_o lawful_a bishop_n this_o be_v the_o use_n destine_v to_o that_o chalice_n none_o other_o wherein_o you_o according_a to_o institution_n do_v drink_n unto_o and_o before_o the_o laity_n this_o be_v the_o custom_n in_o athanasius_n time_n this_o in_o all_o the_o father_n time_n as_o i_o can_v deduct_v almost_o out_o of_o every_o one_o this_o be_v every_o where_o the_o custom_n in_o all_o the_o world_n unto_o this_o day_n but_o in_o the_o roman_a exorbitant_a church_n as_o cassander_n say_v and_o be_v not_o quite_o abolish_v in_o that_o church_n till_o about_o 1300_o year_n after_o christ_n and_o by_o much_o art_n collude_v and_o fine_a forgery_n be_v retain_v from_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o that_o church_n in_o the_o late_a conventicle_n of_o trent_n only_o kept-in_a for_o a_o faction_n but_o mighty_o oppose_v by_o learned_a honest_a and_o conscionable_a catholic_n for_o why_o who_o can_v alter_v christ_n institution_n who_o dare_v change_v that_o which_o he_o have_v ordain_v sacrificium_fw-la verum_fw-la &_o plenum_fw-la tune_n offer_v in_o ecclesia_fw-la deo_fw-la patri_fw-la si_fw-la sic_fw-la incipiat_fw-la offer_n secundùm_fw-la quod_fw-la ipsum_fw-la christum_fw-la videat_fw-la obtulisse_fw-la say_v saint_n cyprian_n but_o say_v he_o again_o and_o we_o know_v it_o be_v true_a constat_fw-la dominum_fw-la obtulisse_fw-la calicem_fw-la in_o commemorationem_fw-la passionis_fw-la et_fw-la quia_fw-la passionis_fw-la eius_fw-la mentionem_fw-la in_o sacrificijs_fw-la omnibus_fw-la facim●●_n nihil_fw-la aliud_fw-la quam_fw-la quod_fw-la ille_fw-la fecit_fw-la facere_fw-la debemus_fw-la why_o because_o otherwise_o we_o offer_v not_o the_o sacrifice_n as_o we_o shall_v nec_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la dominicum_fw-la legitima_fw-la sanctificatione_n celebramus_fw-la nisi_fw-la oblatio_fw-la et_fw-la sacrificium_fw-la nostrum_fw-la responderit_fw-la passioni_fw-la and_o that_o can_v be_v without_o pour_v out_o of_o wine_n that_o represent_v the_o shed_n of_o his_o blood_n but_o your_o church_n have_v alter_v it_o presumptuous_o do_v who_o give_v your_o church_n such_o authority_n hear_v saint_n cyprian_n again_o quare_fw-la si_fw-la solus_fw-la christus_fw-la audiendus_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la debemus_fw-la attendere_fw-la quid_fw-la alius_fw-la ante_fw-la nos_fw-la faciendum_fw-la putaverit_fw-la sed_fw-la quid_fw-la qui_fw-la ante_fw-la omnes_fw-la est_fw-la christus_fw-la prio_fw-la fecerit_fw-la neque_fw-la enim_fw-la hominis_fw-la consuetudinem_fw-la sequi_fw-la oportet_fw-la sed_fw-la dei_fw-la veritatem_fw-la nam_fw-la si_fw-la jesus_n christus_fw-la dominus_fw-la &_o deus_fw-la noster_fw-la ipse_fw-la est_fw-la summus_fw-la sacerdos_n dei_fw-la patris_fw-la &_o sacrificium_fw-la patri_fw-la seipsum_fw-la primus_fw-la obtulit_fw-la &_o hoc_fw-la fieri_fw-la in_o svi_fw-la commemorationem_fw-la praecepit_fw-la utique_fw-la ille_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la vice_fw-la christi_fw-la verè_fw-la fungitur_fw-la qui_fw-la id_fw-la quod_fw-la christus_fw-la fecit_fw-la imitatur_fw-la &_o sacrificium_fw-la verum_fw-la ac_fw-la plenum_fw-la tunc_fw-la offer_v in_o ecclesia_fw-la deo_fw-la patri_fw-la si_fw-la sic_fw-la incipiat_fw-la offer_n secundùm_fw-la quod_fw-la ipsum_fw-la christum_fw-la videat_fw-la obtulisse_fw-la you_o do_v not_o this_o therefore_o in_o saint_n cyprian_n judgement_n your_o sacrifice_n be_v neither_o full_a nor_o true_a much_o more_o in_o that_o epistle_n saint_n cyprian_n have_v and_o also_o elsewhere_o unto_o the_o purpose_n but_o you_o have_v scripture_n for_o the_o nonce_n express_o in_o our_o bibles_n contrary_a to_o that_o we_o teach_v and_o practice_n to_o justify_v what_o you_o practise_v and_o teach_v touch_v this_o sacrilege_n and_o perfidiousness_n in_o alter_v christ_n institution_n marvel_v you_o shall_v have_v scripture_n against_o scripture_n christ_n institution_n be_v so_o direct_a for_o drink_v you_o all_o produce_v your_o scripture_n joh._n 6._o 51._o if_o any_o man_n eat_v of_o this_o bread_n he_o shall_v live_v for_o ever_o and_o the_o bread_n which_o i_o will_v give_v be_v my_o flesh_n here_o be_v eat_v of_o bread_n and_o that_o same_o bread_n christ_n flesh_n but_o here_o be_v no_o such_o matter_n as_o we_o ought_v to_o receive_v bread_n only_o or_o that_o bread_n alone_o suffice_v yes_o for_o lo_o everlasting_a life_n attribute_v by_o our_o lord_n himself_o to_o eat_v only_o under_o one_o kind_n i_o grant_v for_o do_v they_o in_o your_o country_n use_v to_o eat_v under_o two_o kind_n be_v wine_n eat_v with_o spoon_n there_o i_o have_v hear_v of_o communicate_v and_o receive_v under_o one_o kind_n but_o never_o till_o now_o hear_v talk_v of_o eat_v under_o one_o kind_n go_v learn_v to_o speak_v and_o then_o write_v in_o the_o interim_n i_o take_v your_o meaning_n christ_n that_o mention_v only_o eat_v do_v not_o exclude_v drink_v do_v not_o say_v nor_o mean_a eat_v only_o suffice_v bread_n be_v not_o exclusive_a here_o no_o more_o than_o where_o our_o saviour_n go_v to_o eat_v bread_n with_o a_o pharise_n at_o which_o time_n in_o your_o learning_n and_o logic_n he_o do_v not_o drink_v all_o dinnertime_n or_o suppertime_n because_o he_o go_v only_o to_o eat_v bread_n but_o sir_n your_o wisdom_n must_v know_v that_o he_o which_o eat_v bread_n according_a to_o the_o scripture_n phrase_n drink_v also_o bread_n import_v necessary_n for_o man_n life_n and_o to_o eat_v bread_n be_v both_o to_o eat_v and_o drink_v as_o to_o eat_v his_o body_n be_v as_o well_o to_o drink_v his_o blood_n so_o anon_o the_o same_o evangelist_n unless_o you_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n and_o drink_v his_o blood_n you_o shall_v not_o have_v life_n in_o you_o lo_o here_o everlasting_a life_n not_o have_v without_o drink_v look_v you_o to_o this_o if_o you_o look_v to_o have_v everlasting_a life_n john_n 4._o 14._o christ_n promise_v water_n to_o drink_v of_o which_o water_n whoso_o taste_v shall_v thirst_v no_o more_o therefore_o say_v you_o he_o promise_v no_o wine_n therefore_o say_v i_o by_o your_o reason_n he_o give_v not_o bread_n therefore_o if_o need_v you_o will_v have_v one_o kind_n and_o no_o more_o have_v it_o in_o wine_n not_o bread_n again_o he_o tell_v his_o disciple_n elsewhere_o that_o he_o will_v drink_v no_o more_o of_o the_o fruit_n of_o the_o vine_n until_o he_o drink_v it_o new_a in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n he_o make_v no_o mention_n of_o any_o bread_n therefore_o in_o heaven_n belike_o wine_n be_v drink_v and_o only_a wine_n drink_v but_o they_o eat_v no_o bread_n there_o and_o yet_o we_o read_v of_o angel_n food_n which_o i_o can_v tell_v you_o who_o take_v it_o literal_o i_o may_v say_v our_o saviour_n speak_v here_o of_o bread_n and_o not_o of_o wine_n in_o regard_n of_o that_o foregoing_a occasion_n which_o be_v the_o first_o motive_n unto_o this_o his_o discourse_n namely_o his_o miraculous_a feed_v 5000_o man_n with_o five_o loaf_n so_o that_o he_o keep_v he_o to_o the_o subject_n and_o occasion_n but_o this_o wise_a man_n observation_n be_v clean_o cashier_v by_o our_o saviour_n epexegesis_n afterward_o ver_fw-la 53_o 54._o he_o plain_o and_o express_o make_v it_o plain_a that_o he_o mean_v not_o to_o exclude_v blood_n speak_v of_o flesh_n nor_o shut_v out_o wine_n where_o he_o mention_v bread_n everlasting_a life_n to_o return_v your_o own_o word_n upon_o yourself_o be_v attribute_v by_o our_o lord_n not_o to_o eat_v only_o under_o one_o but_o both_o kind_n except_o you_o eat_v the_o flesh_n