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A02968	A declaration and protestation, published by the King of Nauarre, the L. Prince of Conde, and the L. Duke of Montmorency, concerning the peace concluded with the house of Lorrayn, the captaines and chiefe aucthors of the league, to the preiudice of the house of Fraunce. Also two letters written by the sayd King of Nauarre. The one to the Parliament, the other to the maisters of Sorbonne. More an epistle written by Phillipp de Morney to the French King: hereunto, for the playner declaration of the innocencie of the sayd princes, are inserted the articles agreed vpon betweene the King and the Lordes of Guyze. All faithfully translated out of French; Déclaration et protestacion du roy de Navarre, de M. le prince de Condé et M. le duc de Montmorency sur la paix faicte avec ceux de la maison de Lorraine. English.	Henry IV, King of France, 1553-1610.; Mornay, Philippe de, seigneur du Plessis-Marly, 1549-1623, attributed name.; Aggas, Edward, attributed name.; Condé, Henri I de Bourbon, prince de, 1552-1588.; Montmorency, Henri, duc de, 1534-1614.; Navarre (Kingdom). Sovereign (1572-1610 : Henry III) aut	1585 (1585)	STC 13109; ESTC S117933	30,651	88

neede no Counsaile that we must followe the Church and she can neuer erre Bookes are sufficiently furnished with replications therevpon the olde and new Testament are full of the great errors of Gods people It was the Chuch and the Counsaile of Hierusalem that condemned Iesus Christ and his Apostles It was therefore the Church that condemned her saluation And S. Paule telleth vs that Antechrist shall sit in the very Church of God What is there thē but perdition worshipped in y e Church These are but subtelties whereby to eschewe a Counsaile Man is darke the Church an assembly of men the Church therefore is a misty and darck body and hath no light in it but frō God and is no farther then it gathereth light at Gods worde thence therefore take it The Church may at euery straine stumble and therfore we see our forefathers from worlde to worlde grone after reformation and therefore also did the counsaile of Basill decree that from 10. yeres to 10. yeres a Counsaile should be called to the ende to cut of such errors as might spring vp in the Church But some will reply and say they haue already holden one Counsaile against the doctrine now in question Admit it be so yet were it to soone to giue ouer well doing The auncient fathers were not so sone weary against those of their time against the Arrians who were heard in their disputations with all libertie yet being condemned in three counsailes they were not debarred the forth But if we may be weary of reiterating the selfe same remedies how much rather of retourning to warre which so often hath bene practised in vaine to warre whose best successe is more daungerous and hurtfull then euen the worst of any Counsayle or how much more expedient were it to call an other Counsaile rather then to hazard a battel to lose a conference to some purpose or to shed so much blood in vaine The truth is that vpon the very differents nowe in question there haue bene two Counsailes holden The first through the diligence of the Emperour Sigismund at Constance where contrarie to publike faith the disputers of the one parte Iohn Hus and Hierom of Prague were burned quick and then followed a decree that there was no faith to be kept with Heretikes a monstrous decree and the cause of all disorder and excesse since fallen out in Christendome The other at Trent in the chiefe heate of the French troubles where by the iudgement of the former decree coulde bee no safe appearance Where also your Embassadors might not bee heard in their Christian propositions for the quietnesse of the Church And where they protested nullitie against the actes of the Counsaile which since all your Courts of Parliament haue confirmed and reiected the said acts yea euen Sorbonne it self notwithstanding whatsoeuer instance the Pope hath from time to time made Thinke therefore sir whether they haue cause to alleadge the fore iudgements of these Counsailes and iudge whether these two Counsailes may debarys of al hope of goodnesse or fruite that might spring out of one free lawfull Counsaile called vnder your auctoritie The difficultie resteth onely vpon one poinct and that is that the Pope of late daies hath encroched to himselfe the authoritie of calling of Counsailes which before belonged to the Emperours for by al histories it appeareth that thei haue summoned the most famous And now because he feareth the reformation of the abuses of the Popes Court and especially the question so often harped at viz. Whether the Pope be aboue or vnder the Counsaile whereof there are contrarie decrees it is manifest that he will so fair as in him lieth auoyde the calling of any but principally at the suite and request of the French Church which alwaies haue auowed him to b● vnder the Counsaile And for example for the assembling of the Couns●ile of Constance the Emperour Sig●s 〈…〉 und was to traualle frō state to state to solli 〈…〉 all Princes because the Popes striuing among themselues would not stoop to a Counsaile and there it was decreed that the Pope should bee subiect to the Counsaile Since againe for the calling of the Counsaile of Trent it is well knowne what protections were faine to be made what practises the Pope wrought among all Christian Princes wherby to shift it of What adoe there was to keepe them together after they were assembled what 〈…〉 the Popes vsed to the ende to yeeld it vnprofitable to the Church but commodious to them selues where also contrary to the former they caused it to bee determined that the Pope was aboue the Counsaile Hereby they your Maiestie haue a barre 〈…〉 the Pope shut vp his mouth whereby he dare no more presume to sollicite you to the overthrowe of the estate euen he that shall haue refused the lawfull meanes to reunite restore the Church Besides in such a necessitie of your estate and during such the Popes default the Kings your predecessors by the counsaile of your Cleargie yea of your Colledge of Sorbonne haue long since trode you a faire path namely by your owne auctoritie for want of a generall to summon a national Counsaile within this Realme A course taken by the most Christian Kings yea euen the deuoutest among the most Christian to the great benefite of the Church and estate For na●ionall Counsailes being well ordered and proceeding of the Princes zeale haue often done more good thē the generall bribed and laboured by the Church of Rome as histories doe testifie For if you tarrie vntill the Pope prouide paraduēture it wil be so late your estate alreadie being in combustion that it were requisite to make more speede If any man alleadge that this assembly will bee in vaine also that in such contentions were it but for honour neither side will giue place to reason euery one defending his part to the ende also that it will bee hard to agree vpon Iudges and such like wherein vndoubtedly I can see no great difficultie I aunswere that God will blesse your Maiesties holy zeale and earnest affection to the peace of so many consciences also that hee will heare the sobbes and cryes of so much people who of such a conuocation doe attende their weale the quiet of their soules besides that God by his Prophet said not in vaine that the raine neuer falleth from heauen without fruit either his holy worde vpon earth without some notable effect But admit matters should growe to that passe yet dare I assure my self to motion to your Maiestie a meane that shall satisfie agree both parties yea such a one as any reasonable man that willingly would not bee deceiued may thereby easely discerne the trueth from falshoode and false doctrine from true And therefore if the eye of your Maiesties reason bee free from blemish there is no doubt but your selfe shal both finde and knowe the trueth for trueth wil shine forth and lighten you and naturally is cleare

right against my aduers●ries and I beseech him my Maisters to haue you in his holy protection From Mont de Marsan this 11. of October 1585. Your affectionate and assured frend Henry An Epistle to the King SIr great Captaines Kings and Emperours in olde time sought to take their surnames of those Countries that they cōquered And so came the surnames of African Asian c. Your predecessors who wanted no conquestes wherby to bee famous among the posteritie chose for them selues and you and left as an inheritance the surname Most Christian therein seeking to declare to al men that the true honour of man consisteth in being truely Christian and the very triūph of Princes whom God hath established ouer man resteth in the defence and aduancement of Christian religion Wherevpon I agree with those that say that your Maiesties scope should tend to revnite the Church a worke meet for you a labour incident to your Diademe yea such a labour as you ought to haue in no lesse ielousie then your estate But it may be that in the meanes we may somewhat differ wherein your Maiesties iudgement ouer-ruling both you are to choose the most expedient They propound the restoring of the Church to her perfection by armes but who can better iudge of the vnprofitablenesse of armes in matter of Religion then your Maiestie who hauing so fortunatly vsed thē against those whom by al meanes they endeuour to ouerthrowe could neuerthelesse in the end reape no other profit thereby then to learne that the happiest successe auaileth not against the conscience Also that weapons haue no more force ouer the soule then the Surgeans Raser ouer the mans vnderstanding and affections that guideth it The remedies ought to haue an Analogie and proportion correspondent to the mischiefes and diseases Feare naturally ouercommeth the body sound mastereth the eare and reason ruleth the soule bnt to vse force against the soule it worketh as smale effect as reason ouer the eare or sound ouer the masse of a mans body Armes therfore are a meanes not to revnite the Church but to subuert the state of the Realme not to instruct or conuert but to subuert destroy and as nothing in this world can breede mischief but it must also feele part thereof so the destruction of the one side will cost the ouerthrow of the other The ruine and rooting out of those of the religion howe easy so euer it be accompted wil proue to be the confusion and desolation of the whole Estate These great Catholickes that haue endeuoured to compell you to force your subiects who with open force haue required your Maiestie by force to reduce your subiects into the Romish Church I would fayne learne what they hope for whether more power of better successe then your Maiestie They commaunded ouer your armies armed with your will depending vpon your aucthoritie guyded with your good hap and fauoured with your owne presence and your presence I accompt a great parte of the strength of a mightie armie If your will bee not present as vndoubtedly it can not bee who seeth not those willes that depend therof very cold and quailing But especially sith your person can not bee safe among their armies who doth not euidently see that the gre●● body of this armie how grose or strong soeuer will shortly shrincke asunder by peecemeale in that it is not holden together with any respect of your Maiestie or kept in awe with your presence The child naturally beareth at the fathers handes and how good soeuer his cause be is neuerthelesse content to shunne the stripes to hold his hand before him or to get out of the way vntill the choller bee ouer In the seruaunt or straunger he shall finde as much stomacke and force as may counteruaile all reuerence yea sometime indignation wil double and that is it which naturally is to be expected of a Prince the first of your blood whom seruaunts and straungers doe endeuour to exclude out of your famelie with a million of your naturall Subiectes brought vp vnder your wing and vnder the clemencie of your commaundements whom I say the straūgers would make you roote out and driue to seeke forraine Countries Whereof to be brief such a dispaire may spring as may teach great indignities and indignations and so consequently the most extreame Counsailes that dispayre can conceiue or bring forth In olde time the lawes condemned in great fines such Carpenters as to drawe a man to enterprize a building deceiptfully perswaded him that the charges would be but small and yet that tended to building the greatest commoditie whereof redounded to the benefite of the Maister of the house and to the ornament of the Common wealth What paine then may be sufficient for those who to the ende to stirre vp your Maiestie to the destruction of your Realme are not ashamed to auow the enterprize to be very easie An enterprize whereof the losse will redounde to you the miserie to vs and the benefite to themselues Let vs therefore here speake of reuniting not of subuerting The mischiefes now in question are auncient and our elders knewe the remedies for the same which remedies are the safest so as we shal not neede these practitioners corosiues that haue replenished all Fraunce with murders mournings funeralles and lamentations and yet the disease they crye out of and the deuision that they complaine of is now in worse case then eue● before Dissentions in Religion molested the Primitiue Church sundry heresies were fostered among the people yea euen Emperours the defenders the Church were infected with them The histories of such are plentifull The Fathers found that heresie was an opinion that al opinion consisted in the head and that it was a false Image of reason which could not be defased or rased out but with the presence of reason it selfe They did therefore gather Counsayles they called a sufficient number of people out of all places euery one quietly propounded his opinion in the ende opinion gaue place to knowledge likelihoode to trueth and Sophistrie to reason Let vs not thinke Christian Religion so darck but that trueth may be found out where a Counsaile hath her assured principles stedfast maximees inuiolable consequences 〈…〉 reason her self which if it be sufficiēnt to decide the difficulties in lawes can well determine those in deuinitie and that the better because it is the lawe of one GOD which admitteth no contrarieties neither can beare any Antinomy but mans lawes doe often suffer either the inequalitie of the Lawmakers among themselues or of one onely To be briefe it is a manifest iniurie to this law which is called the true light to beleue that it can not light or leade men yea which is worse to perswade that without fire it can not shine that such as they pretend to be darkenesse must be burned rather then produced into the daylight either to take this light from vnder the Tubbe Some will shewe you that there shall