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A75430 An ansvver to the declaration of the imaginary Parliament of the unknowne Common-wealth of England, concerning the affaires past betwixt them of England, and the high and mighty lords the States Generall of the United Provinces: wherein their frivolous reasons are cleerly refuted; and their injust proceedings in the treaty of the aforesaid affaires, as in all their actions, manifestly discovered. 1652 (1652) Wing A3403; Thomason E678_4; ESTC R21805 14,003 16

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their King and then all fidelity to men What they said in this clause they say was not intended to be mentioned and indeed it no way concerned their present controversie with the United Provinces unlesse they thought to scare all men by recounting their own Actions But they proceed to say neither is that indeavour to divide them in the memorable yeare of forty eight to be omitted Surely the one might have been omitted as well as the other was not intended for it hath nothing proper to their Declaration unlesse they meant to make their owne story And they very unseasonably mention the endeavour to divide them when they were formerly divided and the division still continued and themselves not onely endeavoured but effected it rej●cting both Scots and Presbyterian Was not the new modell and change of the Generall their Act And was not their division further acted by purging the House and change of the Government Nor can they admit the great preparation against this Nation in the yeare 1650. And what is all this to the United Provinces And can they think any man believs that preparations to assi●t the King dispossesse them of their usurpation and restore the Nation to its just Rights are preparations against the Nation but this is the common stile of them Declarations This they say necessitated their proceedings in Scotland being refused satisfaction for forepast wrongs and denyed assurance of peace from them who had received the declared Enemy of the Commonwealth from the Vnited provinces Their guilt and malice necessitated their proceedings for the Scots were obliged to receive their lawfull King and will any accuse Subject for fidelity and obedience to their King but such as hate all piety and truth but what were those forepast wrongs They had agreed with the Scots after the engagement of forty eight which was the wrong pretended and nothing can be assurance of peace to them but a totall abdication of Loyalty and submission to the new Republican power of England And it is their pretence of invasion to have satisfaction upon mens estates and security by enslaving their persons The Scots were unhappily m●sled in in their connection with the English in their Rebellion against the King and found the reward of it from those they assi●ted And yet after they discerned the mischievous consequents of their undertaking upon their owne Nation continued yet jealousies of one another and while they feared that which might never happen they suffered that which they saw was unavoidably falling on them the power of the English Rebells And while some would act alone and had feare of the event of a victory if they got it betrayed all to the common Enemy And what if they received the King from those Provinces Did he not come through the Dominions of the Kings of France Spaine And what was the mischievous contrivement that was hatched there against England Doubtlesse if the contrivement were to bring in the King it had been happy for England if it had taken effect But what is this to the United Provinces if Strangers and Allies passe through their Countrey But they say their Enemies had much open and secret assistance by the Interest of the Prince of Orange and others And what law or convention was there against it had the United Provinces any League with England besides what was made with the late King and when their Ally dyes must they quit all friendship to his heire They say it was a time when the Prince and his adherents were contriving as is most probable to erect a Tyranny upon these Countryes of which he missed but narrowly especially in his attempt upon Amsterdam which things they say are better knowne there then heere and are not the purpose of this Declaration But it was purposely set in to scatter jealousi●s in their Provinces and divide th●ir affections endeavours against the malitious attempts of this common Enemy The differences arising touching the attempt upon Amsterdam were prudently composed and buryed by the States Provinces and no man will measure intentions by the malitious invectives of an Enemy that contrives to effect that which he saies another inrended Tyrany is judged by the sence not by the fancy But wisemen will not by the apprehonsion of past or remote dangers make way for present They say it is not pleasant to remember the cruel and bloudy business of Amboina for which no satisfaction hath bin given though often demanded But never by them when they sent their Agents Ambassadors to treat whereof they speak afterwards And if it were not pleasant to them they would rather have endeavoured satisfaction when they treated then repetition when they were in hostility Now they come to unkindnesses received that the Parliament sent a Resident to the States General who refused to receive him The reason is very apparent The Parliament never had sent any Resident neither was any such Authority acknowledged by forreign States And it s a known Treason for the persons in Parliament to doe such an Act. Besides the United Provinces were in league and amity with the King The Parliament or such as called themselves so had not then renounced the Kingly Title and still allowed the Oaths of Allegeance and Supremacy to the King and therefore their Resident was ill sent and justly refused But they think this amounts to an unkindness since it proceeded from their affection to the Vnited Provinces the establishment of liberty advantage of traffique and strength to both Their affections are doubtles such as are usuall between neer and potent Republiques especially where the advantages of traffique are the common aim of both which not only creates emulations but necessarily makes continued differences till one be destroyed and thence proceeded the Judgement of Qu. Elizabeth who concluded that the United Provinces must in wisdome desire the stability of the English Monarchy where by these ruptures might be prevented the Crown of England had greater assurance of these Provinces in the Government they were under then if they had bin under a Prince when new Alliances and engagements would continually change the affections and Councels of the Prince but when these men sent their Resident their affections were to their own interest and they sought to gain reputation by having a Resident received and to diminish the Kingly power abroad But the reason above al they say was the advancement of the true Protestant Religion which both profess and which in humane probability would receive the greatest growth by their friendship The State of the United Provinces did not think that England professed not the true Protestant Religion in the time of Queen Elizabeth and the Kings since but the Religion those new Governours professe no true Protestant will own for his no one Church established in any estate concurring with them And as one chief Article in their Religion is upon their own private Authority to rob their neighbours and kill their Kings so their doctrine
and practice hath been a great scandall to the Protestant Religion wherof they pretend to be Their professed opinions are destructive to humane society disclaiming all subjection to Civil Governors or Ecclesiasticall Synods further then their private opinions concur with them and maintaine not onely the reproaches of Rulers but violence against them if in their judgement they deserve punishment to death and this those men would have to be the true Protestant Religion and their affection to the Protestant Religion is seene in their cruelty to the Protestants of England Next they observed in some of the Governors and people of those Countries an affection to this cause and expressed by them in their free contribution for the poore Protestants in Ireland It is far from a probability that any affected their cause because they contributed to the poore Protestants of Ireland Themselves well know that very many contributed to the poore Protestants of Ireland that hated the Rebellion that occasioned it if any man hated the Irish Rebellion he must from the same grounds have detestation of a greater and more guilty which followed in England And the suffering Protestants in England are more in number and for quality more eminent then those in Ireland and that of England hath had more barbarous effects and is more incapable of excuse that of Ireland pretending difference of Nation and Religion this of England pretending the same Religion as they were of the same Nation And it s too well knowne both at home abroad how many those in England have robbed of their Estates that not only contributed to the reliefe of the poor Protestants of Ireland but hazarded their lives in that cause And such as in the beginning of the troubles in England extended compassion to the poor Protestants of Ireland discerned not the mercilesse disposition of those men that then governed affaires in England who never did one Act in order to their relief but made use of their sufferings to reproach the King And by hypocriticall motions of other men to Charity sought an opinion of Zeal to themselves and means to carry on the war in England against the King And those great summes that were given to the reliefe of Ireland they converted to the maintenance of their own Rebellion in England and as many in these Provinces find the error they were in touching the integrity of the Reformers in England So their Actions for the reliefe of the poor Protestents in Ireland will not prove that they hated Rebellion lesse in those that professe the Protestant Religion then the Popish They joyned they say with their Resident a worthy person Dr. Dorislaus who was barbarously and openly murthered at the Hague the place of residence of the States General of whose assassination the world will judge as of an Action most abhorred against all Rules of nationall intercourse and humanity and how little was done to attach the murtherers must here be remembred The quality of Dr. Dorislaus is chiefly known by their imployment of him in forming their proceedings against their King to a stile of law and this negotiation they mention which latter they might out of foresight knowing how odious the man was to the world abroad have forborne and have sent one not so deeply died in that bloud for what care soever-states take to restrain and punish outward Actions they cannot take away the universall indignation of a people against unnaturall and barbarous villanies But Dorislaus was killed in an house suddenly which though in the place of residence of the States Generall those complainers cannot pretend it in the power of the States Generall to have prevented and they cannot intend the breach of all Rules of intercourse or humanity in that Act by the States though they display the fact with such colours They need not be told that the Rules of intercourse and humanity allow no protection to common robbers and enemies of humane society And those men that think the world so ready to make the Judgement they like of this fact upon Dorislaus see not the Judgement themselves given of their own assassination and therein the Crime of Dorislaus in the murder of the King was not every man as much a Magistrate to execute Dorislaus as they their King And the Messengers of common destroyers cannot be accounted publique Ministers but by whom they are acknowledged for such But if such as did the fact were unknown to the States General how could they attach them or if they were gone out of their Territories though they were often called on And why this must be here remembred as a nationall Injury is not visible to any but to shew the resolution of these Governours to quarrel with the United Provinces there having never bin a deniall of Justice and legall proceedings The States they say sent the Lords Borele Renzwo and Joachimi Ambassadours in the time of the late troubles pretending all good offices which proved a correspondence with the Enemy and a means of assisting them against those to whom they were sent this with reproaches by them cast upon the Parliament was the work of these Embassadours It was a friendly and worthy Action of the States of these Provinces to seek the composing of the troubles in England and to interpose their Councel and mediation in a work so becomming their Alliance And it was no more then Justice to the King to correspond with him and these men of Westminster must be remembred that at this time they had not declared the King an Enemy but they fought against evil Councellours and they took up Arms for King and Parliament their party was not impudent enough then to avow the Titles they have since taken up They well know these Embassadours were sent to the King and though thye interceded with them that called themselves Parliament it was in that manner as Embassadours addresse themselves to treat with the Ministers of Princes to whom they are sent And these Embassadours then found what was doubtfull to many before that the men then in hostility under the name of Parliament had abused the world with a pretence of necessity to take Armes for defence of Religion and lawes seeking only power to themselues and an alteration of Religion and law and that they had obstinately refused all the gracious offers of the King and his desires of peace and these Embassadours were bound in honour and fidelity to deal uprightly in their negotiation to declare where the binderances of peace lay And if the actions of the then pretended Parliament were reproachfull to themselves they cannot blame the Embassad ours for a faithfull report of them this was very far from making them lyable by the practice of nations to punishment or reproof and it stood not with the affairs of the then Rebels in England to offer incivility to those Embassadours though they wanted not an inclination to it those Embassadours need not be carefull to answer for such an