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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d contentious_a and_o ambitious_a desire_n of_o rule_v and_o that_o civil_o and_o absolute_o the_o 3._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n
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&_o policy_n of_o the_o church_n in_o government_n unequal_a this_o be_v both_o caluin_n and_o bezaes_n answer_n the_o 2._o demonstration_n that_o which_o christ_n have_v direct_o forbid_v be_v for_o ever_o unlawful_a demonstration_n demonstration_n but_o christ_n have_v direct_o forbid_v this_o dominion_n of_o one_o minister_n over_o a_o other_o matth._n 20.25_o luc._n 22.25_o ergo_fw-la to_o the_o mayor_n this_o be_v direct_o aver_v for_o that_o be_v direct_o forbid_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n which_o by_o one_o of_o the_o 10._o commandment_n or_o by_o some_o new_a commandment_n or_o special_a forbid_v be_v forbid_v not_o that_o always_o which_o in_o the_o letter_n of_o the_o word_n seem_v forbid_v else_o be_v it_o not_o lawful_a to_o swear_v at_o all_o nor_o to_o call_v any_o man_n your_o father_n on_o earth_n nor_o to_o preach_v to_o the_o gentile_n christ_n forbid_v arrogant_a dominion_n or_o domination_n not_o all_o authority_n absolute_a tyrannical_a dominion_n be_v forbid_v among_o all_o christian_n aristot_n in_o his_o politike_n make_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o dominion_n of_o barbarian_n to_o your_o place_n the_o answer_n be_v our_o saviour_n destroy_v not_o there_o either_o his_o own_o primacy_n or_o the_o superiority_n of_o the_o apostle_n over_o other_o calling_n ecclesiastical_a inferior_a but_o rather_o establish_v it_o attemper_v they_o nevertheless_o to_o humility_n he_o that_o be_v great_a or_o will_v be_v great_a among_o you_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d let_v he_o be_v your_o servant_n or_o as_o luke_n 22._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o that_o be_v great_a let_v he_o be_v as_o puny_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o chief_a as_o he_o that_o serve_v he_o do_v not_o divest_v himself_o of_o lawful_a superiority_n but_o will_v they_o after_o his_o own_o example_n to_o be_v invest_v with_o humility_n for_o he_o himself_o do_v not_o degrade_v himself_o from_o his_o supremacy_n when_o by_o wash_v of_o their_o foot_n he_o serve_v they_o but_o because_o this_o be_v a_o matter_n that_o they_o do_v no_o less_o insist_v upon_o and_o applaud_v unto_o themselves_o in_o than_o the_o papist_n do_v in_o their_o hoc_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la i_o will_v crave_v leave_n that_o i_o may_v a_o little_a dilate_v hereupon_o further_o than_o that_o brevity_n require_v which_o i_o first_o propound_v to_o myself_o in_o those_o two_o place_n of_o s._n matthew_n &_o s._n luke_n be_v to_o be_v consider_v both_o what_o christ_n reproove_v &_o also_o the_o general_a doctrine_n which_o by_o that_o occasion_n he_o deliver_v if_o both_o the_o story_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o one_o action_n then_o must_v we_o interpret_v that_o the_o contention_n of_o all_o the_o apostle_n who_o of_o they_o shall_v be_v the_o great_a mention_v by_o luke_n have_v his_o original_a occasion_n of_o the_o request_n of_o zebedees_n child_n at_o which_o the_o other_o apostle_n take_v indignation_n as_o matthew_n testify_v both_o they_o and_o all_o the_o apostle_n dream_v of_o a_o earthly_a kingdom_n of_o christ_n and_o therefore_o to_o sit_v at_o his_o right_a hand_n and_o at_o his_o
have_v describe_v 1._o tim._n 5.17_o ergo_fw-la there_o be_v not_o so_o much_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d any_o colourable_a description_n of_o elder_n in_o these_o word_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n the_o place_n give_v commendation_n and_o great_a maintenance_n to_o all_o pastoral_a elder_n that_o govern_v their_o flock_n well_o but_o honourable_a commendation_n of_o those_o who_o with_o earnestness_n labour_n in_o the_o word_n so_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v your_o elder_n have_v not_o any_o maintenance_n of_o your_o church_n but_o live_v of_o their_o craft_n and_o trade_n and_o therefore_o your_o can_v be_v there_o mean_v which_o be_v speak_v special_o to_o establish_v large_a maintenance_n by_o the_o church_n towards_o the_o elder_n there_o understand_v the_o 5._o demonstration_n or_o allegation_n there_o be_v no_o church_n which_o can_v stand_v without_o their_o eldership_n or_o council_n ep_v demonstration_n ign._n ad_fw-la tral_n ep_v the_o word_n be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v the_o elder_n or_o minister_n or_o pastoral_n elder_n be_v a_o senate_n or_o fellowship_n of_o the_o apostle_n of_o christ_n without_o it_o there_o be_v no_o congregation_n holy_a or_o sacred_a nor_o synod_n of_o saint_n and_o so_o say_v we_o but_o this_o be_v a_o great_a distance_n from_o your_o laical_a eldership_n this_o be_v our_o holy_a and_o sacred_a convocation_n or_o chapterhouse_n or_o whatsoever_o ecclesiastical_a assembly_n and_o meeting_n it_o appear_v by_o sundry_a place_n of_o ignatius_n that_o the_o presbyteri_fw-la he_o speak_v of_o do_v preach_v and_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n ergo_fw-la he_o mean_v not_o of_o you_o these_o who_o he_o mean_v he_o say_v be_v successor_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o hitherto_o i_o have_v not_o hear_v any_o of_o you_o challenge_v for_o your_o elder_n that_o be_v lay_v man_n the_o 6._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n bape_n demonstration_n tertul._n de_fw-fr bape_n it_o belong_v only_o to_o the_o bishop_n to_o baptise_v and_o to_o the_o elder_a and_o deacon_n upon_o the_o bishop_n licence_n i_o will_v to_o god_n you_o will_v as_o well_o do_v after_o this_o golden_a sentence_n of_o tertull._n as_o you_o can_v memorative_o recite_v the_o same_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n the_o sense_n and_o sentence_n make_v all_o for_o us._n dandi_fw-la habet_fw-la ius_fw-la summus_fw-la sacerdos_fw-la id_fw-la est_fw-la episcopus_fw-la dehinc_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la &_o diaconi_fw-la non_fw-la tamen_fw-la sine_fw-la episcopi_fw-la authoritate_fw-la propter_fw-la eeclesiae_fw-la honorem_fw-la quo_fw-la saluo_fw-la salua_fw-la pax_fw-la est_fw-la as_o the_o bishop_n be_v a_o superior_a minister_n or_o priest_n so_o presbyter_n a_o inferior_a minister_n or_o priest_n for_o your_o elder_n you_o may_v go_v seek_v for_o you_o permit_v neither_o your_o elder_n nor_o deacon_n to_o baptize_v the_o 7._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n lucife_n demonstra_fw-la jeron_n con_fw-mi lucife_n neither_o elder_a nor_o deacon_n have_v right_a but_o upon_o commandment_n of_o the_o bishop_n so_o much_o as_o to_o baptize_v the_o word_n ind_n venit_fw-la ut_fw-la sine_fw-la chrismate_fw-la &_o episcopi_fw-la iussione_n neque_fw-la presbyter_n neque_fw-la diaconus_fw-la ius_fw-la habeant_fw-la baptizandi_fw-la that_o be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n pastoral_a elder_n or_o priest_n the_o word_n immediate_o antecedent_n speak_v of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o bishop_n or_o chief_a priest_n who_o do_v authorise_v other_o priest_n ut_fw-la enim_fw-la accepit_fw-la quis_fw-la ita_fw-la &_o dare_v potest_fw-la he_o speak_v of_o chrism_n aswell_o as_o of_o the_o bishop_n licence_n allude_v to_o a_o particular_a custom_n this_o can_v serve_v your_o turn_n for_o you_o hold_v that_o no_o bishop_n may_v debar_v you_o of_o licence_n to_o preach_v or_o use_v your_o ministry_n &_o your_o elder_n and_o deacons_n may_v not_o minister_v the_o sacrament_n though_o they_o be_v licence_v as_o yourselves_o think_v the_o 8._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n elder_n fall_v away_o upon_o the_o ambition_n of_o the_o teacher_n 5._o demonstra_fw-la amb._n 1._o tim._n 5._o ambrose_n say_v synagoga_fw-la &_o postea_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la seniores_fw-la habuit_fw-la tolerable_a remonstrance_n ambrose_n say_v that_o state_n of_o the_o church_n for_o all_o that_o be_v tolerable_a both_o the_o synagogue_n and_o afterward_o the_o church_n have_v elder_n or_o senior_n before_o any_o christian_a magistrate_n have_v the_o preeminence_n in_o the_o church_n but_o no_o such_o elder_n as_o you_o do_v platform_n for_o these_o give_v but_o counsel_n you_o do_v absolute_o govern_v ordain_v censure_n and_o all_o thing_n save_v preach_v and_o minister_a sacrament_n the_o 9_o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n august_n demonstra_fw-la possidon_n in_o vita_fw-la august_n valerius_n the_o bishop_n do_v contrary_a to_o the_o apostolical_a custom_n in_o appoint_v augustine_n to_o preach_v be_v a_o elder_a the_o word_n be_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n contrausum_fw-la &_o consuetudinem_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la aphricanarum_fw-la against_o the_o use_n and_o custom_n of_o the_o aphrican_a church_n not_o of_o the_o oriental_a church_n where_o the_o use_n be_v so_o a_o custom_n particular_a mislike_v also_o by_o many_o of_o the_o father_n you_o will_v make_v apostolical_a and_o general_a the_o 10._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n after_o arrius_n be_v convict_v of_o heresy_n 22._o demonstrat_n socr._n li._n 5._o ca._n 22._o elder_n may_v not_o preach_v it_o be_v so_o decree_v caluins_n quotation_n be_v lib._n 9_o socrat._n tripartitae_fw-la historiae_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n alexandria_n tantùm_fw-la institutum_fw-la fuit_fw-la whence_o you_o borrow_v this_o only_o at_o alexandria_n this_o be_v ordain_v because_o arrius_n have_v trouble_v the_o church_n there_o be_v not_o this_o curtal_n of_o place_n a_o evident_a sign_n of_o the_o evil_a conscience_n you_o have_v if_o you_o know_v it_o or_o of_o ignorance_n join_v with_o boldness_n if_o you_o know_v it_o not_o and_o yet_o allege_v it_o the_o 11._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n 1._o demonstrat_n bucer_n de_fw-fr reg_fw-la chri._n lib._n 1._o the_o number_n of_o elder_n of_o every_o church_n must_v be_v increase_v according_a to_o the_o multitude_n of_o the_o people_n bucer_n by_o the_o word_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 8._o speak_v of_o curatorum_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la &_o seniorum_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n that_o be_v pastoral_a elder_n as_o the_o marginal_a note_n understand_v the_o minister_n ministros_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la sarcire_fw-la oportere_fw-la quicquid_fw-la fuerit_fw-la neglectum_fw-la the_o 12._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n martyr_n 12._o rom._n lament_v that_o they_o be_v fall_v out_o of_o the_o church_n demonstration_n demonstration_n that_o the_o name_n scant_o remain_v martyr_n cit_v s._n ambrose_n complaint_n of_o the_o want_n or_o defect_n of_o certain_a elder_n for_o advice_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n who_o be_v for_o a_o time_n in_o some_o church_n the_o magistrate_n be_v unchristian_a but_o you_o find_v not_o that_o they_o be_v call_v presbyteri_fw-la as_o signify_v a_o office_n which_o title_n you_o give_v to_o you_o and_o the_o place_n where_o presbyteri_fw-la be_v name_v you_o apply_v to_o they_o the_o 13._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n certain_a of_o the_o people_n be_v join_v with_o the_o pastor_n in_o church-government_n 1._o demonstration_n idem_fw-la 12._o co._n 1._o even_o so_o at_o this_o day_n remonstran_n remonstran_n in_o every_o parish_n be_v the_o like_a assistant_n to_o gather_v and_o employ_v the_o alm_n of_o the_o church_n and_o for_o other_o provision_n the_o puritan_n know_v not_o their_o own_o church_n or_o common_a wealth_n and_o yet_o the_o meaning_n be_v but_o of_o church_n in_o great_a city_n and_o cathedral_n the_o 14._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n 8._o demostran_n caluin_n instit_fw-la li._n 4._o cap._n 3._o sect_n 8._o there_o be_v elder_n in_o the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o say_v it_o be_v no_o necessary_a demonstration_n to_o prove_v it_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n he_o can_v never_o prove_v that_o they_o have_v jurisdiction_n or_o aught_o to_o have_v of_o censure_n of_o ordination_n of_o law_n make_v and_o all_o other_o government_n or_o that_o they_o be_v lay_v man_n and_o have_v no_o maintenance_n by_o the_o church_n or_o that_o they_o be_v annual_a or_o biennall_a officer_n as_o the_o consistorial_o do_v now_o preach_v the_o 15._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n d._n whitgift_n pag._n 638._o confess_v there_o be_v elder_n demonstr_n demonstr_n some_o be_v senior_n as_o ambrose_n speak_v of_o in_o the_o church_n before_o any_o christian_a magistrate_n be_v pro_fw-la tempore_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n for_o a_o stay_n &_o good_a advice_n in_o the_o church_n but_o none_o of_o this_o medley_n of_o perpetuity_n and_o with_o such_o government_n and_o authority_n as_o be_v now_o plait_a the_o 16_o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n if_o the_o platform_n to_o timothy_n be_v for_o all_o church_n demonstration_n demonstration_n then_o must_v elder_n be_v in_o al._n 1._o timoth._n 6.14_o but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a ergo_fw-la the_o second_o this_o be_v
answer_v before_o cap._n 1._o not_o to_o concern_v any_o policy_n of_o elder_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n but_o to_o keep_v the_o general_a commandment_n of_o the_o law_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o life_n they_o may_v as_o well_o say_v that_o the_o commandment_n to_o drink_v no_o water_n be_v mean_v by_o that_o place_n the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v there_o wary_o use_v the_o singular_a number_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o now_o you_o will_v make_v to_o pertain_v to_o the_o perpetuity_n of_o every_o thing_n contain_v in_o that_o epistle_n if_o it_o do_v so_o yet_o can_v it_o not_o help_v you_o for_o there_o be_v no_o such_o commandment_n for_o any_o such_o elder_n in_o that_o whole_a epistle_n no_o nor_o any_o mention_n by_o the_o way_n of_o they_o the_o 17._o demonstration_n that_o which_o be_v in_o every_o minister_n commission_n must_v be_v in_o every_o congregation_n demonstration_n demonstration_n but_o the_o ordination_n and_o practice_n of_o this_o office_n mat._n 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excommunicate_v who_o be_v to_o deal_v in_o other_o part_n of_o discipline_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n but_o the_o other_o be_v not_o exercise_v by_o one_o ergo_fw-la neither_o this_o this_o be_v obscurum_fw-la per_fw-la obscurius_fw-la or_o to_o beg_v that_o which_o be_v in_o question_n still_o this_o deface_v themselves_o remonstrance_n remonstrance_n for_o deacon_n deal_v in_o other_o part_n of_o their_o discipline_n and_o yet_o be_v discipliner_n be_v none_o of_o the_o eldership_n and_o i_o never_o hear_v afore_o they_o may_v excommunicate_v cathechize_v preach_v teach_v public_a pray_v baptise_v and_o celebrate_v the_o supper_n blessing_n of_o marriage_n etc._n etc._n be_v part_n of_o the_o discipline_n yet_o exercise_v by_o the_o doctor_n alone_o or_o pastor_n alone_o to_o the_o minor_n there_o be_v none_o of_o these_o office_n which_o be_v mainteinable_a in_o our_o church_n but_o may_v be_v execute_v by_o one_o if_o it_o shall_v seem_v best_a for_o the_o commodity_n and_o 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translate_v unto_o we_o from_o they_o etc._n etc._n you_o must_v prove_v the_o translation_n and_o show_v in_o one_o demonstration_n time_n place_n &c_n &c_n or_o any_o other_o circumstance_n to_o evince_v it_o or_o prove_v the_o erection_n or_o ordination_n of_o this_o discipline_n in_o stead_n of_o that_o otherwise_o to_o say_v there_o be_v a_o allusion_n unto_o that_o or_o a_o respective_a look_v of_o christ_n upon_o that_o be_v but_o a_o mere_a collusion_n with_o god_n truth_n to_o say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v a_o session_n of_o 72._o with_o the_o prince_n &c_n &c_n be_v the_o image_n of_o your_o imagine_a presbytery_n especial_o a_o corruption_n and_o not_o to_o be_v find_v in_o scripture_n but_o in_o the_o thalmud_n be_v to_o carry_v away_o the_o matter_n with_o a_o bold_a forehead_n and_o impudent_a outface_v this_o i_o have_v also_o speak_v unto_o afore_o in_o this_o chapter_n to_o the_o minor_n this_o be_v not_o ad_fw-la idem_fw-la for_o it_o be_v one_o 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say_v you_o break_v therein_o the_o moral_a law_n of_o god_n the_o 6._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n cyprian_n lib._n 3._o ep_v 10._o will_v do_v nothing_o in_o his_o charge_n without_o counsel_n of_o elder_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n and_o consent_n of_o people_n his_o meaning_n be_v he_o will_v do_v nothing_o i_o a_o privatim_fw-la sententia_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n by_o any_o domestical_a determination_n but_o with_o the_o privity_n and_o counsel_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o clergy_n that_o be_v but_o in_o consistory_n open_o or_o which_o be_v consult_v and_o conclude_v upon_o in_o synod_n public_o before_o so_o that_o nothing_o shall_v be_v prejudicial_a but_o these_o be_v minister_n that_o assist_v he_o a_o bishop_n the_o 7._o demonstration_n or_o allegation_n the_o elder_n and_o other_o officer_n have_v power_n to_o absolve_v as_o well_o as_o the_o bishop_n 14._o demonstrat_n cypr._n epist_n 14._o remonstrance_n lib._n 3._o epist_n 14._o you_o quote_v not_o the_o book_n as_o for_o the_o place_n it_o make_v against_o the_o presumption_n of_o your_o elder_n or_o any_o pastoral_a elder_n who_o give_v ius_fw-la communicationis_fw-la without_o the_o leave_n of_o the_o bishop_n as_o certain_a then_o do_v as_o for_o the_o word_n manus_fw-la impositionem_fw-la episcopi_fw-la &_o cleri_fw-la it_o strengthen_v the_o hand_n of_o authority_n in_o a_o bishop_n who_o be_v perpetual_a precedent_n of_o his_o clergy_n the_o 8._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n for_o asmuch_o as_o absolution_n long_v unto_o all_o i_o dare_v not_o do_v it_o remonstrance_n demonstrat_n idem_n epist_n 19_o remonstrance_n cyprian_n say_v praeiudicare_fw-la ego_fw-la &_o solum_fw-la mihi_fw-la rem_fw-la communem_fw-la vendicare_fw-la non_fw-la audeo_fw-la in_o case_n the_o absolution_n of_o certain_a do_v concern_v many_o as_o well_o as_o himself_o he_o will_v not_o do_v that_o to_o restore_v the_o offender_n to_o their_o state_n the_o 9_o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n if_o there_o be_v any_o that_o have_v do_v such_o a_o fault_n that_o be_v to_o be_v put_v away_o from_o partake_v prayer_n of_o the_o church_n etc._n etc._n 39_o demonstrat_n tertul._n apolog_fw-la cap._n 39_o there_o do_v bear_v rule_v certain_a approve_a elder_n of_o the_o church_n the_o word_n summum_fw-la futuri_fw-la iudicij_fw-la praeiudicium_fw-la est_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n si_fw-la quis_fw-la ita_fw-la deliquerit_fw-la ut_fw-la à _fw-la communicatione_n orationis_fw-la &_o conventus_fw-la &_o omnis_fw-la sancti_fw-la commercij_fw-la relegetur_fw-la president_n probati_fw-la quique_fw-la seniores_fw-la honorem_fw-la istum_fw-la non_fw-la pretio_fw-la sed_fw-la testimonio_fw-la adepti_fw-la the_o word_n follow_v give_v not_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n to_o these_o elder_n or_o arbiter_n any_o time_n much_o less_o perpetual_o if_o at_o that_o time_n of_o persecution_n they_o have_v a_o censure_n over_o manner_n but_o let_v it_o be_v prove_v that_o they_o be_v not_o minister_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n but_o mere_a annual_a officer_n and_o without_o maintenance_n of_o the_o church_n as_o you_o be_v the_o 10._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n it_o help_v much_o to_o make_v the_o party_n ashamed_a that_o he_o be_v excommnnicate_a by_o the_o whole_a church_n donat._n augustin_n lib._n 3._o contra_fw-la epistol_n parmen_fw-la the_o donat._n as_o also_o in_o his_o book_n of_o baptism_n against_o donatist_n often_o tunc_fw-la timore_fw-la percutitur_fw-la &_o pudore_fw-la sanatur_fw-la cum_fw-la ab_fw-la universa_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la anathematizatum_fw-la se_fw-la cernens_fw-la remonstrance_n remonstrance_n so_o be_v the_o word_n when_o the_o whole_a church_n shall_v expel_v and_o blame_v he_o by_o their_o judgement_n also_o as_o the_o magistrate_n by_o his_o own_o censure_n the_o 11._o allegation_n or_o demonstration_n the_o elder_n have_v interest_n in_o other_o censure_n demetriaden_n demonstrat_n hierom_n 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abrogate_v the_o ecclesiastical_a senate_n ordain_v by_o christ_n it_o be_v false_a for_o under_o a_o christian_a prince_n and_o pastoral_a elder_n the_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n be_v exercise_v lawful_o without_o tyranny_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n why_o bring_v you_o not_o cartwr_fw-mi also_o to_o prove_v it_o caluin_n be_v the_o first_o in_o all_o the_o world_n that_o erect_v such_o a_o senate_n the_o 16._o allegation_n the_o bishop_n of_o themselves_o if_o they_o excommunicate_v do_v it_o ambitious_o contrary_a to_o the_o canon_n see_v bucer_n against_o gropper_n &_o ephes_n 4._o de_fw-la animi_fw-la cura_fw-la 6._o demonstrat_n idem_fw-la instit_fw-la 4._o li._n 12._o cap._n sect._n 6._o and_o swinglius_n in_o ecclesiast_fw-la according_a to_o your_o quotation_n i_o find_v no_o such_o place_n in_o caluin_n remonstrance_n remonstrance_n when_o you_o allege_v thus_o in_o gross_a you_o must_v not_o look_v to_o be_v answer_v in_o particular_a as_o for_o the_o bishop_n excommunication_n it_o be_v according_a to_o s._n paul_n practice_n 1._o corinth_n 5._o where_o he_o excommunicate_v hymeneus_n and_o alexander_n 1._o tim._n 1._o ca._n the_o 17._o allegation_n 165._o demonstrat_n see_v the_o abstract_n pag._n 165._o it_o be_v forbid_v by_o that_o filthy_a puddle_n the_o canon_n law_n that_o be_v filthy_o speak_v remonstrance_n remonstrance_n if_o the_o abstracter_n have_v understand_v the_o law_n he_o bring_v he_o may_v have_v find_v a_o answer_n where_o he_o find_v the_o objection_n but_o be_v this_o with_o our_o demonstrator_n a_o good_a argument_n the_o canon_n law_n forbid_v it_o ergo_fw-la unlawful_a it_o so_o forbid_v priest_n marriage_n and_o the_o communion_n in_o both_o kind_n be_v they_o therefore_o unlawful_a the_o 1._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n the_o right_a of_o excommunication_n be_v in_o s._n paul_n and_o not_o in_o the_o rest_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n he_o give_v only_o the_o direction_n otherwise_o if_o they_o have_v not_o do_v it_o he_o have_v remain_v unexcommunicate_a if_o they_o never_o have_v denounce_v and_o publish_v the_o excommunication_n yet_o s._n paul_n have_v nevertheless_o excommunicate_v he_o reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n and_o also_o the_o chastisement_n have_v proceed_v on_o he_o and_o may_v they_o lawful_o have_v disobey_v the_o apostle_n judgement_n or_o cross_v his_o determination_n the_o 2._o objection_n of_o the_o demonstrator_n christ_n give_v peter_n and_o every_o apostle_n power_n to_o bind_v and_o loose_v which_o the_o interpreter_n expound_v excommunication_n demonstrat_n demonstrat_n matth._n 18._o answer_v of_o the_o demonstrator_n that_o be_v power_n of_o preach_v in_o denounce_v god_n judgement_n or_o pronounce_v his_o mercy_n not_o of_o this_o action_n it_o be_v to_o be_v understand_v of_o both_o reply_n remonstrance_n with_o reply_n the_o word_n be_v almost_o all_o one_o john_n 20.22_o v._o matth._n 16.20_o v._o and_o matth._n 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pag._n 3._o line_n 24._o  _fw-fr equinoction_n equivocation_n p._n 5._o lin_v 12._o deal_n ergo_fw-la  _fw-fr p._n 13._o li._n 6._o demonstrate_v demonstration_n p._n 20._o li._n 6._o 20._o two_o p._n 25._o li._n 31._o syndicts_n syndic_n p._n 26._o li._n 20._o any_o some_o one_o ibi_fw-la li._n 32._o ordiantion_n ordination_n p._n 27._o li._n 21._o member_n number_n p._n 33._o li._n 17._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d p._n 37._o li._n 34._o revenge_v he_o reveage_v himself_o p._n 49._o li._n 11._o demise_n devise_n ibi._n mark_fw-mi example_n epistle_n p._n 53._o li._n 21._o whole_a while_n p_o 72._o li._n 33._o breed_v breed_v p._n 75._o li._n 6._o be_v the_o be_v in_o the._n p._n 77._o li._n 16._o lay_v minister_a lay_n unministr_a ibi._n li._n 22.6.1_o 1._o and_o 6._o p._n 81._o li._n 26._o low_n low_o ibi._n li._n 38._o column_v continue_v p._n 83._o li._n 32._o run_v not_o run_v riot_n p._n 87._o li._n 37._o irenaeus_n grinaeus_n p._n 109._o li._n 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