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A61532 The Council of Trent examin'd and disprov'd by Catholick tradition in the main points in controversie between us and the Church of Rome with a particular account of the times and occasions of introducing them : Part 1 : to which a preface is prefixed concerning the true sense of the Council of Trent and the notion of transubstantiation. Stillingfleet, Edward, 1635-1699. 1688 (1688) Wing S5569; ESTC R4970 128,819 200

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prove_v it_o if_o any_o one_o have_v a_o mind_n to_o be_v satisfy_v he_o may_v see_v it_o in_o gregory_n nyssen'_n canonical_a epistle_n where_o he_o own_v that_o several_a of_o those_o sin_n for_o which_o the_o scripture_n exclude_v from_o 5._o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n have_v no_o canonical_a penance_n prescribe_v they_o by_o the_o ancient_a canon_n of_o the_o church_n which_o show_v a_o mighty_a difference_n from_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n the_o most_o plausible_a place_n in_o antiquity_n bring_v for_o all_o mortal_a sin_n be_v that_o of_o s._n cyprian_n where_o he_o say_v that_o some_o 23._o confess_v their_o very_a thought_n though_o they_o have_v not_o proceed_v to_o actual_a sin_n it_o be_v true_a that_o he_o do_v speak_v of_o some_o such_o but_o be_v it_o for_o sin_n of_o thought_n against_o the_o ten_o command_n no_o but_o it_o be_v very_o plain_a that_o he_o speak_v of_o that_o sin_n which_o be_v think_v to_o imply_v a_o renounce_n christianity_n and_o s_o cyprian_n elsewhere_o call_v summum_fw-la delictum_fw-la and_o the_o sin_n against_o the_o holy_a ghost_n viz._n consent_v to_o any_o act_n of_o gentile_a idolatry_n and_o yet_o saint_n 10._o cyprian_n have_v much_o ado_n to_o persuade_v those_o who_o be_v actual_o guilty_a to_o submit_v to_o due_a penance_n for_o it_o but_o they_o obtain_v ticket_n from_o the_o confessor_n and_o be_v admit_v to_o communion_n without_o undergo_a the_o discipline_n of_o the_o church_n the_o consequence_n whereof_o will_v be_v that_o the_o discipline_n will_v be_v lose_v and_o the_o church_n overrun_v with_o apostate_n this_o make_v s._n cyprian_n plead_v hard_o against_o such_o practice_n and_o among_o other_o argument_n he_o use_v this_o of_o the_o great_a tenderness_n of_o some_o who_o because_o they_o have_v entertain_v such_o thought_n of_o do_v as_o other_o do_v for_o their_o own_o safety_n they_o offer_v to_o unburthen_v their_o conscience_n before_o they_o and_o desire_a remedy_n for_o 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