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A06632	A letter of Sr. Humfrey Linde, to a lady of great worth, much afflicted for Syr Humfreys sake, hearing him ill spoke of, for not answering the Whetstone, and the Spectacles, that were written against his Via tuta And also for that he is greatly taxed for lying and corrupting of many authours. In which letter he doth cleare himselfe.	Floyd, John, 1572-1649.; Lynde, Humphrey, Sir.	1634 (1634)	STC 17093; ESTC S100654	14,875	50

A LETTER OF S. r HVMFREY LINDE To a Lady of great Worth much afflicted for Syr Humfreys sake hearing him ill spoken of for not answering the Whetstone and the Spectacles that were written agaynst his Via tuta AND Also for that he is greatly taxed for lying and corrupting of many Authours In which Letter he doth cleare himselfe Printed Anno M.DC.XXXIIII MADAME The affliction you endure for my sake is a sharpe Arrow shot euē to my hart and is not thence to be remoued vntill your griefe be remoued by this my Letter which I know to you who are so zealous a louer of the Word and hater of the Pope will giue aboundant satisfaction As for the Church-going Papists therefore and some other that are not of the purer sort of the reformed Church who as you say do dash you in the teeth with my lyes 150. and odd in my first Booke called Via tuta and the Lord knowes how many in my second called Via deuia so that when you would sound forth my euerlasting praises they stop your pure Mouth with my infinite numbers of corruptions shiftes Foxian Iewellian and Mortonian falsifications crying out that I haue had too printed Bookes sent me one called the Spectacles to see my way the other the Whetstone the iust reward of my desert for lying so egregiously with many other papers of like nature displaying my vntruthes Know deare Lady that a Brother or Sister that spring from the pure bowels of the reformed Church as your Honour and I doe must suffer much more then this by that vile deformed and Antichristian Crew the Wicked But now to the matter This only I request at your Honours hands that if you know any should be desirous before my printed Bookes come forth to receaue any further satisfaction then this my Letter to your Ladishippe will giue them they may be sent on the Lords name either to my owne House or to the Wine-Office where I and many of our learned and zealous brethren meete often about a further reformation of Religion desiring that not so much as a ragge of Popery may remayne in the House of the Lord neither Bells nor Organs Rochets or Myters square Caps or Surplisses Crosse or Image for I am assured a true Brother or Sister had rather see Antichrist himselfe then any of these nay we trust in the Lord to put the Word Catholicke out of the Creed as well as out of Tombe-stones and in place therof to say I belieue in the Reformed Church And though our enemyes shew that Lying is one of the Markes of our Church and that I for the glory of it haue told ouer againe all the lyes of M. Bell Fox Iewell White Morton and others in a new fashion yet all this notwithstanding I hope to giue any reasonable man full satisfaction For put case there hath beene now and then a slip or two and that out of the aboundance of my zeale I haue sometimes ouerlashed or stretched a point for the loue of the Ghospell I hope this will be no such Capitall Crime amongst the pure little Flocke who know right well what latitude may be vsed for the splendor of the Ghospell what our Elders and Fore-fathers in this kind haue done no learned knight can be ignorant What therfore I haue done was not without authority yea herein I haue tracked the very footsteps of the most famous D. Luther and the pure preacher of the word D. Caluin These were the lights sent from heauen it self to driue away the darke clouds of papistry These were they who made their doctrine odious to the world And wot you how why thus Those reuerend Fathers of our Church affirmed how Papists bragged of being able to keep Gods Commaundements without Gods grace how they put their trust in their owne Merits and not in Christs how they adored Bread Statues Images and Idols Now the Papists ashamed denyed it stoutly Againe those Reuerend Fathers affirmed it boldly so conuinced them What is not our affirmation a sufficient refutation of their deniall Sure I am this manner of arguinge hath beene allowed of this fourescore yeares in our Churches and pulpits When D. Luther tom de matrim f. 119. began to teach from aboue no doubt that this in Genesis Multiply and increase was not a Precept only but more then a Precept and that it was not within the power of a man to be without a woman And agayne that if the wife would not yield she should be sent packing marry Hesther put away Vasthi that if the husband were impotent the wife might marry another or with his consent lye secretly with his brother or some other man What did the Papists Oh it vexed them to heare of reformatiō they vrged Scripture too Matt. 5. where it is said that Whosoeuer dismisseth his wife vnles for fornication and marieth another committeth adultery But alas they haue not the spirit of interpreting Scriptures their old Fathers Grandsires were blinded and therfore according to his Tenet well sayth D. Luther Be it that the Church Augustine other Doctors Peter Apollo yea an Angell frō heauen teach otherwise yet is my doctrine such as setteth forth Gods only glory Nay he had authority from heauen to reprehend the Apostles themselues and to put in and out what he pleased of the holy Word of the Lord for so he himselfe affirmeth in his booke agaynst King Henry the 8. I am certayne sayth he I have my doctrine from heauen and yet marke the humility of the man it is not myne sayth he but Christes And therefore you see how afterwards King Henry obeyed him and his doctrine which he would neuer haue done had it not beene from God or had it not beene most pure and holy doctrine and therfore you may read how zealous King Henry became how purely and chastly he liued being conuerted from Popery Agayne D. Luther added to the Text Rom. 3. this word alone Man is iustifyed by fayth alone And this not without both authority from God as before you haue heard out of his owne mouth and no doubt do firmly belieue but also with great reason to wit to vexe the old Papists O this doth silence them this makes thē chafe and sweat Let them cry we falsify the Scripture I will study no further answere for them then this of D. Luthers which is neuer to be answered A Papist and an Asse are all one thinge So I will haue it so I commaund it my will must stand for a reason And good reason for thy Will was the Lords will and the Lords will was thy Will So in the 2. of Peter he hath thrust out good Workes as not beseeming these holy times when a liuely fayth excludeth all good Workes all counsels of Pouerty Chastity and Obedience Giue me fayth and let the Papists goe with their good Works and Restitutions whither they will I le none This doctrine we exactly follow and protest

neuer to do good worke so long as we breath Heere you see my grounds for it out of this prophet sent from heauē to reforme the world and you see also that we may iustly alter the text and vse our wits in clearing of the Scripture purifying our doctrine and deluding the Papistes I cannot omit another Prophet D. Caluin so named by himselfe I am a Propheth sayth he I haue the spirit of God c. thus full of zeale in his 4. booke of Institutions cap. 12. and else where Now marke the spirit zeale of this man In the preface of his Institutions he tells vs that the Coūcell of Basill was a lawfull Councell and persisted in full authority and dignity to the end Now then he prooueth most learnedly that the Papist Church hath fayled for that Coūcell deposed Eugenius and chose Felix yet the Councell being ended Eugenius stole againe into the chayre without any Canonicall election and so from him a false Pope all the succeeding Popes haue sprunge making euer since a false Church Thus that rare eminent starre Iohn Caluin whose wisedom thought it not conuenient in those times to be so foolishly scrupulous as to speake truth and to lay open that indeed it was first a true Councell but after when it deposed Eugenius and chose Felix it was a diabolicall seditious Councell so called by the Lateran Councell Sessione 11. Now in verity tell me what zealous man is there of ours that doth not follow this example of M. Caluin And who will not to defend an article of our Fayth to wit That the Church may erre dissemble or equiuocate I will not say lye though the Scripture say Omnis homo mendax Euery man is a lyar which must be fulfilled somtimes especially in necessity and when is there more necessity then for the Ghospell to vexe the Papists that cry for truth and playne dealing forsooth Yes with them who hate vs and would destroy the Ghospell Now for M. Caluin who can once doubt but that he had a reuelation to deale thus with the Pope In his third booke of Institutions cap. 20. he saith The Papists in their hymnes and Letanies neuer make mētion of Christ but pray alwayes to dead men This doctrine our men teach also in their Pulpits taken as you see from M. Caluin This mads the Papists calling vs falsifiers vntrue dealers c. and that this is one of our ordinary lies becaus they say in their Letanies Lord haue mercy on vs Christ haue mercy on vs God the Father of heauen haue mercy on vs c. Alas this is only a poore shift put only for a shew but let them talke in the meane tyme what they will so long as the contrary is preached in our pulpits this makes the papists odious amongst the people Agayne in the same place he sayth They inuocate Saints as Gods They deny it Caluin and all our Brethren affirme it One Caluin one Melancthon one Minister of the Lord is to be belieued before a thousand Papists though it be in a point of their owne Religion I must let passe for breuity sake infinite other of our Ancients that haue giuen vs good example how to deale with the Pope and for my part I haue not beene backward like a towardly disciple to follow their example neyther will as long as I liue But now let vs looke vpō our own learned Countrymen in this busines of so great importance God be praysed there are so many I know not where to beginne Pitty it is I must leaue most of thē out or else I should make a volume as big as Iohn Foxes Acts and Monuments that graue simple and vpright man who is so falsly accused by that crafty Iesuite Parsons for telling in his Acts a thousand lyes and in three leaues 120. Belieue him who please for I le be hanged first vnlesse some of our owne Congregation will take the paines to shew me them First therefore I will beginne with Bishop Iewell a man of famous memory for deluding the Papists arguments In his booke called The defence pag. 7. he ioyneth the Manichees and Papistes togeather both forbidding Marriage and allowing of Fornication The Papists are madd deny it and esteeme it blasphemy agaynst the Church condemne his proofes as false which he brings out of Panormitan and others who only affirme that Fornication was not punished now so rigorously as in the primitiue times from thence they infer that the Bishop hath iniured belyed their doctrine falsified Panormitan and this they say in him is plaine But what saith the Iewel Alas he counts this answere as ridiculous Agayne D. Harding a notable old Papist affirmes he hath conuinced him of hundreds of lyes But were there tyme I could shew you how brauely he comes off of all Tush let the Papistes say what they please we will say with Paul 2. Cor. 3. We are called deceauers and yet we say truth The Reuerend Doctour Bishop aforsaid in another place obiects against them their priuate or sole Communion The Papists answere diuers wayes out of the ancient Fathers Basill and the monkes of Aegypt and I know not where But after all their labour marke I beseech you how wittily the Iewell answereth and confuteth them pittying their poore proofes If saith he M. Harding could find any thing in the Church he would not thus hunt after the mountaynes and flye for ayd into Egipt if he could find it neerer home Was not this a wise answere for so farre fetch a proofe Againe the Papists forsooth will not haue their Church to erre God must take heed of breaking his promise with them and they hould him to it Matth. 26. and Iohn 14. The gates of hell shall neuer preuayle against it I will be with you till the consummation of the world The holy Ghost shall remayne with you for euer with like authorities out of Scriptures and multitudes of Fathers and they thinke to kill it dead But marke the Iewell in this point how he answereth Harding You papists saith he say it standes not with Gods promise to forsake his Church a thousand yeares together now he plyes them It is not much for you openly the breake Gods commaundements to defyle his holy sanctuary to turne light into darkenes and yet neuertheles you will not sticke to binde him to his promise Here you see the Consciences of the Papists they may breake their promises transgresse the Law offende their God but God must not breake with them See how diuinely this learned Bishow quelleth the arguments of his importune aduersaries An answere it is certainly inspired by the Lord of truth and that of our Truth and not by the Deuill as the Romanists say Well I am sorry I must leaue out infinite places of this reuerend Bishop by which he hath taught me and many others to deale with the papists as they deserue but he is dead gone no doubt rewarded for his labours

Fathers to thēselues for we make no accompt of them Now cōmeth a greater busines about The second Charge I sayd the Doctrine of Transubstantiation began in the Lateran Coūcell 400. yeares agoe The Papists will haue it more ancient saying that my owne Maisters will giue me the lye that only the word Transubstantiation began then agaynst Berengarius who opposed the doctrine before the Councell and therefore it was taught before so they tell me that Iohn Foxe a good honest dealing man that hath tould but 1000. lyes in his Acts and Monuments and 120. within the space of three leaues giues my Worship the Whetstone he might as well say the lye Iohn Foxe in the booke of his Acts printed 1576. pag. 1121. affirmeth the denying of Transubstantiation began to be accoūted herely 1060. and in that number was one Berengarius who liued about the yeare 1060. Now saith my Papist what doth your Knightship say to the Fox Marry I say the Fox is a Goose and deserues to be hanged in chaines for not abusing the Papists more in those Primitiue tymes Againe they bring D. Humfrey who saith Gregory the great and Augustine brought Transubstantiation into England So he in his Iesuitisme 2. part rat 5. pag. 626. Peter Martyr in his Epistle to Beza dislikes S. Cyril for this doctrine M. Whitgift in his defence against Cartwrights reply pa. 408. saith Ignatius the disciple of S. Iohn sayd of the heretickes of those times they do not admit the Eucharist to be the flesh of our Sauiour Iesus-Christ which flesh suffered for our sinnes Heere he sayth he could bring the ancient Fathers to change the name of Syr Humfrey Linde into Syr Humfrey Lyes so omitting as he sayth the authority of Christ himselfe in Scripture the Fathers Councels and Figures of the old Testament leaues me to consider how true a Knight I am And by this you may see how gracelesse a Papist he is to giue a Knight the lye Yet he vrgeth me further sayth Iudas was the first of my opiniō in the denyall of Transubstantiation from him the Capharnaits Berengarius and so from him Luther and Caluin then to Grandsire Foxe Father Morton and so to his worship Syr Humfrey Lind so Iudas was the roote and the Knight cometh directly from his line I confesse this did put me into choller in which I sware that if I knew this Papist he should well know that I am a Knight-fighter as well as a Knight-writer which few know of I cōfesse He promiseth a more ample pedigree but let him keep it to himselfe I desire it not I say I am wronged and will reuenge it when and where I can The third Charge Because I sayd Phocas was the first that grāted Supremacy to the Bishop of Cōstantinople they make my Author Vrspergensis say Rome But let that passe Agayne they say he is corupted by vs and that Phocas could not giue Supremacy because he neuer had any such power neyther could he be the first seeing Iustinian ratified the Decrees Canons of the Popes Supremacy with an Edict as all Catholike Princes do now So Phocas only set forth the Decrees But my owne Maisters will vexe me worse he saith M. Whitaker and M. Fulke say That Pope Victor was the first that exercised iurisdiction ouer forrayne Churches so M. Whitaker agaynst Duraeus lib 7. M. Fulke in his answer to a Coūterfeyt Catholicke pag. 36. And at this tyme the Church of Rome was in great purity sayth the Bishop of Canterbury being neere to the Apostles in the yeare 158. So Bishop Whitgift sets forth Victor and the Church of Rome in those daies Thus with a bragge of conuincing me of an vntruth and referring me to Sciptures and Fathers he ends this Charge But I will not take so much paines seeing I can haue a true Note-booke of a true Minister where euery thing is Featly set downe their notes are my Scriptures and Fathers vpon their wordes and credits I receiue them for I know they will not deceyue Me though they should belye the Papists The fourth Charge Because I sayd the worship of Images was decreed by the Councell of Nice almost 800. yeares since Christ heere the Papists say If I meane diuine worship as my Rabbins teach out of the pulpit the ignorant people then it is false they haue no such Doctrine if I meane relatiuely and transitorily with respect to the person it represents as good subiects doe to the Chaire of State with reference to his Maiesty then I fayle of the tyme for that Isaurus opposed this doctrine before that Councell was assembled anno 726. and that the Fathers of that tyme as Damascene Germanus and others condemne this Heresy of the Iconoclasts which began by Iewes Turkes Saracens and Heretiks and is still maintained by the learned and noble Knight Syr Humfrey Linde agaynst Christ and all the ancient Fathers And by most of the English Clergy as appeared lately in Starre-chamber an 1633. there was granted the pious vse of them the Papists haue not any other in them and so they tell me the Councell condēned the Heresy not decreed the doctrine But who knoweth not that we disclayme from their Councels For as D. Luther truly sayd art 115. Councels are but as Parlaments of Princes and what is defyned by them is subiected to the Iudgement of euery priuate man It is a mad thing that what a Councell concludeth should be belieued seeing what is to be belieued and what not is left to euery spirituall mans iudgment and so farewell all Councels and Fathers Giue me the pure word and a pure spirit that knoweth only what bookes are Canonicall This is the doctrine of D. Luther D. Caluin which I follow and so my Spirit is with theirs and so I hope I haue answered their Councells and Fathers sufficiently The fifth Charge Because I tell them Irenaeus in his first booke cap. 3. sayth that the Basilidians and Carpocratians worshipped Images and from them I deriue their pedigree The first of these say the Papists as Irenaeus witnesseth vsed Images and Inchantements but maketh no mention of worship Of the later they say they had the Image of Christ but honoured it as the Heathens did their Idols placed it togeather with the Images of Pluto Pythagoras Aristotle and vsed them as Gentiles doe So that heere he sayth I haue grosly abused them belyed Irenaeus and that I agree with the Basilidians Carpocratians in many points of my Religion But he wil proue this when I haue defended my selfe and cleered my self of this false dealing which will neuer be The sixth Charge Because I say the Communion in one kind was decreed by the Councell of Cōstance aboue 1400. yeares after Christ the lye was told long since say they by my Father Luther as Card. Bellarm. noteth lib. 4. de Eucharist cap. 26. M. Crashaw and others haue it so that it is a stale lye and they find great