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that_o god_n be_v as_o true_a in_o his_o word_n as_o the_o pope_n infallible_a in_o his_o decree_n &_o if_o upon_o this_o ground_n these_o book_n deserve_v credit_n let_v the_o reader_n conclude_v first_o for_o judeth_n whether_o it_o be_v â—squam_fw-la or_o ullâ—bi_fw-la we_o can_v tell_v neither_o i_o think_v the_o jesuite_n himself_o again_o she_o honour_v that_o fact_n of_o siâ—â—on_n 2_o siâ—â—on_n caâ—â—s_n loco_fw-la â—â—pra_fw-la citat_fw-la constat_fw-la auâ—em_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d doctisâ—imoâ—_n in_o contrariam_fw-la sententiam_fw-la 〈◊〉_d qui_fw-la tamen_fw-la semper_fw-la in_o ecclesia_fw-la catholica_fw-la sunt_fw-la habiti_fw-la nich._n lyâ—an_n super_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—_o 1._o &_o super_fw-la tobiâ—â—_n abuleâ—â—â—s_fw-la super_fw-la math._n c._n 1._o d._n aâ—â—on_n 3._o p._n â—_o 1â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d loâ—â—_n tum_fw-la maxim_n in_o fine_a 〈◊〉_d super_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etiam_fw-la sex_n â—â—cros_fw-la esse_fw-la 〈◊〉_d gelaâ—â—â—â—_n pâ—pa_fw-la 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of_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 3_o and_o 4._o of_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 3._o and_o 4._o of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o book_n of_o pastorâ—_n â—_z etc._n etc._n and_o the_o call_n of_o 〈◊〉_d prophetical_a scripture_n by_o s._n ambrose_n be_v to_o like_a effect_n it_o be_v give_v to_o the_o four_o book_n of_o eâ—â—ras_n which_o the_o jesuite_n will_v not_o have_v canonical_a scripture_n though_o it_o be_v lift_v up_o with_o as_o great_a a_o testimony_n from_o that_o father_n revelatione_fw-la father_n sixtus_n seneâ—_n bibl._n sancta_fw-la lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr esdâ—â—_n lib._n 3._o &_o 4._o divus_o ambrose_n etiam_fw-la quartum_fw-la librum_fw-la putat_fw-la editum_fw-la ab_fw-la ipso_fw-la esdra_n non_fw-la sine_fw-la divinâ_fw-la revelatione_fw-la as_o the_o book_n of_o toby_n which_o he_o be_v willing_a to_o justify_v but_o leave_v toby_n with_o his_o dog_n the_o jesuite_n have_v some_o further_a proof_n for_o the_o macehabee_n they_o be_v allege_v say_v he_o as_o other_o canonical_a book_n of_o scripture_n be_v 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by_o the_o father_n irenaeus_n who_o give_v it_o the_o name_n of_o scripture_n clemens_n alexandrinus_n and_o origen_n for_o the_o divinorum_fw-la bellarm_n de_fw-fr scriptor_n ecclesâ—_n herman_n five_o hermes_n librum_fw-la scripsit_fw-la apud_fw-la veteres_fw-la valde_fw-la celebrem_fw-la 〈◊〉_d inscripsit_fw-la pastorem_fw-la be_v libâ—â—_n quamvis_fw-la à _fw-la sancto_fw-la 〈◊〉_d reâ—â—o_fw-la lib._n 4_o caprino_fw-la &_o origeâ—â—_n et_fw-la divinorum_fw-la title_n divine_a give_v by_o cyprian_a and_o his_o testimony_n out_o of_o augustine_n there_o need_v no_o further_a illustration_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d answer_v in_o substance_n before_o our_o jesuite_n from_o these_o ground_n the_o principal_a whereof_o iâ—_n s._n hieromes_n ignorance_n begin_v his_o 〈◊〉_d what_o wonder_v then_o if_o the_o church_n at_o rome_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d they_o also_o for_o canonical_a 〈…〉_o the_o slight_a cause_n have_v two_o or_o three_o witness_n &_o those_o without_o exception_n that_o direct_o agree_v one_o with_o a_o other_o in_o give_v testimony_n to_o the_o propose_a article_n the_o jesuiâ—e_n that_o pretend_v the_o ancient_a church_n have_v not_o give_v we_o â—â—â—_o complete_a proof_n from_o the_o same_o and_o those_o which_o he_o â—â—th_v produce_v be_v but_o particular_a man_n with_o one_o provincial_a council_n which_o they_o themselves_o general_o approve_v â—oâ—_n and_o some_o of_o his_o private_a testimony_n say_v little_a to_o the_o purpose_n so_o all_o that_o our_o jesuite_n can_v expect_v be_v this_o that_o in_o some_o private_a judgement_n these_o book_n may_v be_v judge_v canonical_a but_o never_o so_o deliver_v by_o the_o ancient_a church_n which_o defence_n the_o book_n pastâ—r_n have_v from_o 〈◊〉_d confession_n and_o the_o four_o of_o esdras_n by_o the_o confession_n of_o your_o own_o sixtuâ—_n senensis_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d lib._n 1._o de_fw-fr 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o there_o be_v reason_n sufficient_a that_o our_o jesuite_n shall_v 〈◊〉_d doâ—â—â—_n his_o 〈◊〉_d whichupon_o so_o vain_a a_o confidence_n heâ—_n have_v erect_v and_o acknowledge_v their_o change_n although_o they_o have_v doâ—â—_n it_o upon_o so_o good_a a_o ground_n as_o the_o embrace_n of_o some_o private_a judgement_n three_o or_o four_o hâ—â—dreth_v yâ—â—es_n after_o christ_n leave_v the_o stream_n of_o the_o ancient_a church_n &_o â—he_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o the_o same_o thus_o the_o charge_n appâ—â—â—â—th_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d &_o not_o 〈◊〉_d as_o the_o jesuit_n hope_v to_o have_v prove_v it_o that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n have_v leâ—â—_n the_o gâ—â—â—rall_a practice_n of_o the_o â—â—â—cient_a church_n and_o have_v imbracâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d private_a 〈◊〉_d not_o for_o love_v of_o their_o person_n but_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d themselves_o they_o find_v some_o shelter_n 〈◊〉_d their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d sâ—â—ing_v he_o can_v declare_v they_o scripture_n by_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d neither_o by_o the_o testimony_n of_o the_o ancient_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o be_v sure_a if_o we_o can_v manifest_v that_o 〈◊〉_d book_n hold_v now_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o church_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o contrary_a sentence_n by_o the_o â—â—cient_a church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o his_o skill_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d say_v the_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d thâ—â—_n euâ—â—_n the_o church_n of_o god_n do_v 〈…〉_o 〈…〉_o before_o the_o church_n declare_v they_o for_o canonical_a by_o 〈◊〉_d authority_n 2d_o authority_n reply_v pag_n 2d_o the_o jesuit_n must_v tell_v we_o what_o he_o meâ—â—â—th_v by_o the_o church_n declare_v they_o by_o public_a authority_n for_o if_o he_o understand_v a_o general_a council_n it_o be_v idle_a for_o they_o never_o come_v to_o be_v so_o â—â—_o yâ—_z canus_n loc_fw-la theol._n l._n â—_o c._n â—â—_o cyprianus_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o expositione_n symboli_fw-la â—osdem_fw-la sex_n libros_fw-la patrum_fw-la anctoritate_fw-la a_o quibus_fw-la se_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d quod_fw-la idâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d ciâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—ordium_n cuâ—â—que_fw-la diligeâ—ter_fw-la de_fw-fr omnibus_fw-la exploraverat_fw-la omni_fw-la investigatione_n comperit_fw-la hos_fw-la libâ—â—â—_n esse_fw-la a_o veteris_fw-la instrumenti_fw-la be_o in_fw-la psalmum_fw-la â—â—â—_o sed_fw-la &_o i_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d cyril_n 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d caâ—_n â—â—_o audacious_a in_o the_o primitive_a time_n as_o to_o claim_v the_o privilege_n to_o â—â—eepe_v into_o the_o canon_n beside_o he_o be_v as_o foâ—d_v in_o the_o consequent_a that_o they_o have_v make_v no_o change_n herein_o from_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o 〈◊〉_d church_n unless_o we_o can_v show_v that_o the_o ancient_a church_n of_o god_n do_v give_v judgement_n or_o sentenâ—â—_n contrary_a to_o their_o trent_n declaration_n in_o a_o general_a council_n for_o if_o this_o be_v good_a reason_n the_o council_n of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d have_v 〈◊〉_d the_o 3._o &_o 4._o book_n of_o esdras_n pastor_n their_o decretal_a epistle_n gregory_n siâ—tus_n yea_o what_o not_o &_o plead_v in_o the_o same_o manner_n that_o they_o have_v make_v no_o change_n they_o never_o be_v in_o your_o judgement_n i_o think_v condemn_v by_o the_o public_a authority_n of_o any_o general_a council_n in_o the_o ancient_a catholic_a church_n that_o do_v give_v judgement_n or_o sentence_n conâ—â—ry_o thereunto_o but_o if_o the_o church_n may_v be_v say_v to_o give_v â—â—â—_o judgement_n against_o the_o book_n of_o judith_n toby_n and_o the_o 〈◊〉_d by_o keep_v they_o out_o of_o the_o canoâ—_n as_o no_o doubt_n â—â—_o may_v practise_v be_v the_o best_a declareâ—_n of_o man_n judgement_n it_o shall_v be_v manifest_v sufficient_o that_o they_o have_v long_a 〈◊〉_d receive_v their_o doom_n for_o first_o they_o be_v always_o difâ—â—â—â—med_v in_o regard_n of_o the_o canon_n &_o rule_n of_o faith_n 〈◊〉_d that_o the_o jesuit_n have_v not_o produce_v one_o private_a 〈◊〉_d that_o be_v plain_a and_o convince_a for_o almost_o â—â—â—_o year_n 〈◊〉_d christ_n second_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d catalogue_n
〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d unto_o she_o so_o that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d safe_o follow_v her_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d rest_n in_o her_o judgement_n in_o thâ—â—_n i_o say_v general_a counceil_n may_v 〈◊〉_d in_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n herself_o from_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o christian_a religion_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o all_o this_o be_v a_o â—ad_a beginning_n be_v a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d he_o i_o lay_v down_o 〈…〉_o first_o that_o the_o church_n include_v in_o iâ—_n all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d christ_n appear_v in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d second_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o those_o 〈◊〉_d that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apostle_n time_n iâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d all_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d happy_o not_o from_o all_o ignorance_n three_o that_o the_o church_n include_v 〈◊〉_d the_o â—eleivers_n live_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d free_v not_o only_o from_o 〈◊〉_d in_o such_o thing_n 〈…〉_o to_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o thing_n that_o any_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o christian_a 〈◊〉_d and_o religion_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d without_o all_o doubt_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o judgement_n of_o the_o church_n in_o 〈…〉_o so_o â—â—_o to_o the_o thing_n 〈◊〉_d in_o scripture_n or_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d that_o â—ath_v be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d because_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d church_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d or_o rome_n but_o the_o universal_a church_n neither_o that_o universal_a church_n which_o 〈◊〉_d be_v gather_v together_o in_o a_o general_a council_n which_o be_v 〈◊〉_d sometime_o to_o have_v err_v but_o that_o which_o disperse_v through_o the_o world_n from_o the_o baptism_n of_o john_n continue_v to_o 〈◊〉_d time_n six_o that_o in_o the_o judgement_n of_o waldensis_n the_o father_n successive_o be_v more_o certain_a judge_n in_o matter_n of_o faith_n then_o a_o general_n council_n of_o bishop_n though_o it_o be_v in_o a_o sort_n the_o high_a court_n of_o the_o church_n as_o the_o treatiser_n say_v but_o say_v the_o jesuite_n if_o yet_o for_o all_o this_o our_o answerer_n will_v not_o be_v bring_v to_o build_v his_o conscience_n upon_o any_o other_o authority_n 32_o authority_n reply_v pag._n 32_o i_o perceive_v a_o little_a thing_n will_v beget_v conâ—idence_n 〈◊〉_d jesuite_n that_o be_v so_o lift_v up_o with_o produce_v two_o old_a objection_n to_o little_a purpose_n but_o what_o then_o why_o majora_fw-la his_o agreat_a one_o of_o our_o own_o shall_v school_v he_o a_o little_a better_o pooâ—e_a â—edant_n in_o what_o manner_n by_o tell_v he_o out_o of_o lyriâ—ensis_n that_o the_o ancient_a consent_n of_o godly_a father_n be_v with_o great_a carâ—_n not_o only_o to_o be_v search_v but_o also_o to_o be_v follow_v of_o we_o chief_o in_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n ibid._n reply_v ibid._n as_o if_o the_o consent_n of_o father_n be_v the_o absolute_a rule_n of_o faith_n without_o scripture_n when_o you_o yourselves_o dare_v not_o attribute_v to_o any_o father_n authority_n &_o power_n to_o express_v the_o rule_n of_o faith_n by_o their_o bare_a consent_n for_o durand_n say_v that_o although_o the_o church_n have_v power_n of_o gâ—â—_n on_o 〈◊〉_d yet_o that_o do_v not_o exceed_v thâ—_n limitation_n of_o the_o scripture_n scripturae_fw-la scripture_n durand_n â—â—_o dist._n 44._o q._n 3._o â—_o 9_o ecclesia_fw-la licet_fw-la habet_fw-la in_o terris_fw-la dominationem_fw-la dei._n illa_fw-la tamen_fw-la â—on_n excedit_fw-la limitationem_fw-la scripturae_fw-la universal_a extent_n of_o doctrine_n be_v a_o good_a directory_n to_o truth_n but_o the_o absolute_a foundation_n of_o faith_n be_v the_o sacred_a scripture_n neither_o be_v we_o at_o all_o to_o give_v credit_n say_v the_o author_n of_o the_o imperfect_a work_n upon_o matthew_n among_o the_o work_n of_o chrysostome_n unto_o the_o church_n themselves_o unless_o they_o teach_v or_o do_v those_o thing_n which_o be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o scripture_n scripture_n scripture_n 〈◊〉_d commentar_n in_o mat._n homil_n 49._o inte_n operâ—_fw-la s._n chrys_n incerto_fw-la auctore_fw-la nec_fw-la ipsis_fw-la ecclesijs_fw-la omnino_fw-la â—redendum_fw-la est_fw-la niâ—â—â—a_fw-la dicant_fw-la vel_fw-la faciant_fw-la quae_fw-la convenientia_fw-la sunt_fw-la scripture_n no_o testimony_n have_v any_o strength_n that_o walk_v without_o god_n &_o his_o word_n the_o father_n adhere_v to_o the_o scripture_n &_o therefore_o we_o ought_v to_o adhere_v to_o they_o &_o so_o be_v we_o to_o embrace_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n &_o counsel_n as_o those_o that_o embrace_v the_o holy_a scripture_n in_o their_o faith_n &_o doctrine_n and_o for_o that_o cause_n this_o learned_a bishop_n couple_v they_o together_o we_o rest_v say_v he_o upon_o the_o scripture_n of_o god_n upon_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o ancient_a doctor_n and_o counsel_n 31_o reply_v pag._n 31_o infer_v thereby_o that_o those_o which_o fix_v their_o faith_n have_v not_o only_o divine_a testimony_n but_o also_o the_o judgement_n and_o belief_n of_o the_o best_a man_n to_o declare_v the_o same_o as_o good_a subsidiarie_n help_v to_o their_o convince_a ground_n which_o do_v not_o conclude_v that_o any_o authority_n beside_o the_o scripture_n be_v necessary_a but_o that_o it_o be_v a_o fair_a &_o convenient_a rule_n to_o bridle_v man_n fancy_n lest_o the_o scripture_n shall_v be_v wrest_v by_o they_o which_o be_v too_o much_o wed_v to_o their_o own_o conceit_n to_o patronage_n their_o error_n and_o what_o augustine_n give_v to_o bishop_n and_o counsel_n this_o learned_a bishop_n assent_v unto_o but_o i_o be_o assure_v that_o the_o jesuite_n will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o prove_v that_o s._n augustine_n ever_o embrace_v such_o a_o thought_n as_o to_o believe_v that_o the_o receive_n of_o humane_a testimony_n shall_v disable_v the_o scripture_n from_o be_v the_o only_o conclude_v and_o sufficient_a rule_n for_o he_o be_v of_o a_o quite_o contrary_a opinion_n as_o be_v apparent_a in_o many_o place_n of_o his_o writing_n comparata_fw-la aâ—g_v â—_o donat._n post_n collat_n c._n 1â—_n quâ—si_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la concilia_fw-la scripture_n canonicis_fw-la fue_z â—int_n aliquandâ—_n comparata_fw-la neither_o will_v our_o jesuite_n have_v we_o in_o our_o appâ—â—le_n to_o scripture_n to_o betray_v our_o cause_n by_o our_o disagreement_n with_o our_o self_n alone_o but_o also_o by_o our_o agreement_n with_o ancient_a heretic_n and_o who_o be_v those_o heretic_n the_o valentinian_o ennomian_o marcionist_n arian_n and_o other_o whâ—_n as_o it_o be_v well_o know_v say_v this_o jesuite_n be_v wâ—nt_a to_o reject_v all_o other_o authority_n and_o to_o â—â—nce_n with_o scripture_n only_o â—â—_o reply_v pag._n â—â—_o if_o this_o jesuite_n be_v not_o a_o fencer_n judge_v by_o his_o weapon_n both_o edge_n and_o point_n be_v rebate_v for_o his_o most_o powerful_a performance_n end_v not_o so_o much_o as_o in_o a_o scratch_n or_o scar_n and_o whereas_o he_o say_v we_o fence_v with_o scripture_n only_o it_o seem_v he_o know_v not_o the_o nature_n thereof_o otherwise_o he_o will_v repute_v it_o with_o the_o apostle_n a_o sword_n for_o a_o soldier_n yea_o sharp_a than_o a_o two-edged_a sword_n we_o acknowledge_v many_o subsidiarie_n help_v but_o indeed_o none_o sufficient_a to_o control_v the_o conscience_n but_o scripture_n only_o and_o herein_o we_o follow_v these_o ancient_a heretic_n 1._o augustâ—â—â—_n cite_v by_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n and_o unanswered_a by_o the_o jesuite_n let_v humane_a writing_n be_v remove_v let_v god_n voice_n sound_n donati_n aug._n de_fw-fr pastor_n c._n 14._o aâ—ferantur_fw-la chartae_fw-la humanae_fw-la sonâ—â—t_fw-la voâ—â—s_fw-la divinae_fw-la ede_fw-mi mihi_fw-la unam_fw-la scripturae_fw-la â—ocem_fw-la pro_fw-la parte_fw-la donati_n and_o further_o in_o his_o book_n of_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n he_o say_v let_v they_o declare_v their_o church_n if_o they_o be_v able_a not_o in_o the_o speech_n and_o rumour_n of_o the_o african_n not_o in_o counsel_n of_o their_o bishop_n not_o in_o the_o passage_n of_o their_o dispute_n not_o in_o their_o â—ignes_n &_o deceitful_a wonder_n because_o even_o against_o these_o thing_n the_o word_n of_o god_n have_v persuade_v we_o to_o be_v â—aâ—y_n but_o in_o the_o law_n prophet_n psalm_n the_o pastor_n voice_n the_o evangelist_n preach_v and_o labour_n that_o be_v in_o all_o the_o canonical_a authority_n of_o holy_a scripture_n authoritatibus_fw-la scripture_n aug._n de_fw-fr vnit._n eccle._n c._n 88_o ecclesiam_fw-la svam_fw-la demonstrant_fw-la si_fw-la possunt_fw-la non_fw-la iâ—_n sermonibus_fw-la &_o rumoribus_fw-la afrorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o concilijs_fw-la episcoporum_fw-la suorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o literis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d libet_fw-la disputatorum_fw-la non_fw-la in_o signis_fw-la &_o prodigijs_fw-la â—allaâ—ibus_fw-la qui_fw-la etiam_fw-la contra_fw-la ista_fw-la verbo_fw-la domini_fw-la prâ—parati_fw-la &_o cautiâ—â—ddiâ—i_fw-la sumus_fw-la
of_o scripture_n as_o the_o devil_n use_v they_o in_o his_o allegation_n against_o our_o saviour_n or_o pope_n in_o their_o 〈◊〉_d corrupt_o and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o not_o according_a to_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o true_a meaning_n of_o the_o text_n yet_o that_o scripture_n be_v the_o only_a sufficient_a rule_n be_v so_o general_o a_o receive_a truth_n that_o never_o any_o heretic_n deny_v the_o same_o for_o although_o many_o of_o they_o deny_v some_o scripture_n yet_o they_o confess_v those_o which_o they_o acknowledge_v divine_a to_o be_v deliver_v to_o the_o church_n to_o reveal_v god_n will_n and_o to_o determine_v all_o doctrine_n in_o the_o church_n and_o controversy_n of_o faith_n by_o and_o whereas_o this_o wise_a of_o his_o brethren_n will_v persuade_v that_o we_o to_o cloak_n our_o error_n with_o a_o show_n of_o piety_n will_v not_o be_v subject_a to_o the_o sentence_n of_o any_o judge_n whatsoever_o but_o the_o sacred_a scripture_n 32_o reply_v pag._n 32_o the_o jesuite_n be_v here_o 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the_o scripture_n because_o they_o bear_v witness_n of_o they_o that_o both_o their_o work_n and_o doctrine_n be_v unsound_a and_o evil_a now_o as_o if_o he_o will_v make_v it_o appear_v to_o every_o weak_a eye_n that_o we_o submit_v to_o scripture_n as_o the_o only_a rock_n whereon_o we_o build_v our_o faith_n do_v thereby_o anoyde_v all_o trial_n he_o prosecute_v this_o with_o a_o simile_n for_o we_o see_v say_v he_o in_o the_o temporal_a court_n beside_o the_o law_n there_o must_v 〈◊〉_d be_v a_o judge_n who_o must_v declare_v the_o true_a meaning_n of_o the_o law_n and_o pronounce_v his_o sentence_n in_o matter_n of_o controversy_n according_a to_o the_o same_o â—â—_o same_o reply_v pag._n â—â—_o so_o likewise_o the_o same_o form_n must_v be_v observe_v in_o the_o spiritual_a regency_n of_o the_o conscience_n if_o credit_n may_v be_v give_v to_o this_o jesuite_n concern_v the_o write_a law_n of_o god_n if_o all_o this_o be_v true_a what_o make_v it_o against_o the_o sole_a rule_n 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confess_v l._n 13._o c._n 23._o non_fw-la enim_fw-la oportet_fw-la de_fw-la tam_fw-la sublimi_fw-la autoritate_fw-la judicaâ—_n neque_fw-la enim_fw-la de_fw-la ipso_fw-la libro_fw-la tuo_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la quod_fw-la ibi_fw-la non_fw-la lucet_fw-la quoniam_fw-la submittimus_fw-la ci_fw-fr nostrum_fw-la intellectum_fw-la certumque_fw-la habemus_fw-la etiam_fw-la quod_fw-la clausium_fw-la est_fw-la aspectiâ—â—â—_n nostris_fw-la rectè_fw-la veraciterque_fw-la dictum_fw-la esse_fw-la siceâ—â—â—_n homo_fw-la licet_fw-la jam_fw-la spiritualis_fw-la &_o renouâ—â—â—â—_n in_o 〈◊〉_d dei_fw-la secundùm_fw-la imaginem_fw-la ejus_fw-la qui_fw-la creavit_fw-la eum_fw-la factor_n tamen_fw-la legis_fw-la debet_fw-la esse_fw-la non_fw-la judex_fw-la de_fw-fr he_o enim_fw-la judicare_fw-la nunc_fw-la dicitur_fw-la in_fw-la quibus_fw-la et_fw-la corrigendi_fw-la potestaâ—â—m_fw-la habet_fw-la clemens_n alexandrinus_n storm_n l._n 7_o non_fw-la enim_fw-la absolutè_fw-la eâ—â—â—ciantibus_fw-la hominibus_fw-la fidem_fw-la habucrimus_fw-la quibus_fw-la licet_fw-la etiam_fw-la câ—â—tiare_fw-la contrarium_fw-la sed_fw-la oporteâ—etiam_fw-la probare_fw-la quod_fw-la dictum_fw-la est_fw-la non_fw-la expectamus_fw-la testimonium_fw-la quod_fw-la datur_fw-la ab_fw-la hominibus_fw-la sed_fw-la voce_fw-la domini_fw-la probamus_fw-la quod_fw-la quaeritur_fw-la quae_fw-la est_fw-la magis_fw-la side_n digâ—â—_n quam_fw-la quaevis_fw-la demonstrationes_fw-la ibid._n hâc_fw-la ergo_fw-la ratione_fw-la non_fw-la sunt_fw-la pij_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la divinis_fw-la praeceptis_fw-la non_fw-la acquiescant_fw-la hoc_fw-la est_fw-la spiritui_fw-la sancto_fw-la quia_fw-la est_fw-la ergo_fw-la ex_fw-la scipso_fw-la fidelis_fw-la dominicâ_fw-la scripturâ_fw-la &_o voce_fw-la est_fw-la fide_fw-la dignus_fw-la quae_fw-la per_fw-la dominum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d ad_fw-la hominum_fw-la beneficium_fw-la ipsa_fw-la autem_fw-la judice_fw-la utimur_fw-la ad_fw-la res_fw-la inâ—_n niendas_fw-la wadding_n legate_n philippi_n 3._o etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d multa_fw-la sunt_fw-la hujusmodi_fw-la quae_fw-la reâ—â—agantibus_fw-la aut_fw-la circâ—ca_fw-la 〈◊〉_d doctor_n 〈◊〉_d sunt_fw-la à _fw-la pontificibus_fw-la nec_fw-la enim_fw-la parvum_fw-la doctorum_fw-la aggerem_fw-la sed_fw-la dei_fw-la sapientiam_fw-la et_fw-la spiritum_fw-la pro_fw-la regula_fw-la etrectore_fw-la veritatis_fw-la habet_fw-la â—â—â—cta_fw-la haec_fw-la 〈◊〉_d quae_fw-la falli_fw-la non_fw-la potest_fw-la mater_fw-la ecclesia_fw-la that_o which_o god_n have_v leave_v his_o church_n be_v the_o bless_a spirit_n in_o his_o wordâ—_n â—_z which_o christ_n have_v promise_v shall_v direct_v his_o own_o in_o all_o at_o least_o fundamental_a truth_n and_o what_o if_o some_o desperate_a man_n follow_v deceitful_a guide_n must_v this_o of_o necessity_n make_v the_o true_a guide_n of_o his_o spirit_n contemptible_a or_o must_v the_o scripture_n be_v uncertain_a in_o their_o direction_n because_o we_o have_v man_n that_o will_v not_o see_v 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ever_o receive_v in_o the_o church_n with_o more_o truth_n and_o faithfulness_n than_o heretic_n have_v do_v sure_o the_o jesuite_n have_v pay_v it_o here_o for_o he_o that_o every_o where_o dream_v of_o false_a logic_n in_o other_o do_v not_o here_o speak_v true_a sense_n himself_o lyrinensis_n make_v 1._o one_o general_a sufficient_a rule_n for_o all_o thing_n the_o sacred_a scripture_n sufficiat_fw-la scripture_n lyrinens_fw-la duplici_fw-la modo_fw-la munire_fw-la fidem_fw-la svam_fw-la domino_fw-la adjuvante_fw-la deberet_fw-la primo_fw-la scilicet_fw-la divinae_fw-la legis_fw-la autoritaâ—e_fw-la cum_fw-la sit_fw-la perfectus_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la canon_n sibique_fw-la ad_fw-la omnia_fw-la satis_fw-la superque_fw-la sufficiat_fw-la 2_o another_o useful_a in_o some_o case_n only_o sunt_fw-la only_o ibid._n tum_o deinde_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la catholicae_fw-la traditione_n sed_fw-la neque_fw-la semper_fw-la neque_fw-la omnes_fw-la haereâ—â—s_fw-la hoc_fw-la modo_fw-la 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&_o paulus_n objurgat_fw-la &_o petrus_n fustinet_fw-la ut_fw-la dum_fw-la magister_fw-la objurgatus_fw-la obticescit_fw-la facillimè_fw-la discipuli_fw-la mutatent_fw-la sententiam_fw-la a_o act_n that_o the_o gloss_n be_v persuade_v will_v not_o have_v be_v do_v unless_o he_o have_v think_v himself_o peter_n equal_v sentiret_fw-la equal_v gloss_n ordinar_n resti_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la auderet_fw-la nisi_fw-la sâ—_n non_fw-la imparem_fw-la sentiret_fw-la or_o as_o cajetan_n conceive_v something_o great_a locum_fw-la great_a caietan_n in_o locum_fw-la three_o he_o will_v have_v tell_v they_o that_o they_o the_o apostle_n be_v but_o as_o extraordinary_a ambassador_n unto_o all_o nation_n peter_n be_v the_o ordinary_a pastor_n not_o only_o over_o all_o nation_n but_o also_o over_o the_o very_a apostle_n themselves_o 60_o themselves_o reply_v pag._n 60_o but_o that_o grave_a councillor_n will_v have_v espy_v the_o jesuite_n to_o have_v disadvantage_v himself_o for_o in_o one_o place_n 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themselves_o last_o the_o very_a name_n of_o catholic_a which_o be_v so_o proper_a to_o this_o church_n amongst_o so_o many_o heresy_n that_o howsoever_o all_o heretic_n affect_v the_o name_n of_o catholic_a yet_o if_o a_o strange_a chance_n to_o inquire_v in_o what_o place_n do_v the_o catholickâ—_n meet_v together_o no_o heretic_n will_v dare_v to_o show_v hiâ—_n own_o church_n or_o house_n 70_o reply_v pag._n 70_o first_o i_o desire_v the_o jesuit_n to_o consider_v what_o augustine_n say_v that_o heretic_n affect_v the_o name_n &_o never_o any_o 〈◊〉_d more_o than_o papist_n who_o be_v all_o but_o donatist_n of_o which_o none_o be_v find_v in_o the_o ancient_a succession_n of_o the_o roman_a bishop_n second_o that_o although_o the_o title_n catholic_n do_v point_n at_o the_o true_a church_n in_o the_o primitive_a time_n yet_o it_o be_v not_o otherwise_o then_o the_o title_n of_o man_n do_v point_n out_o heretic_n fineâ—â—_n heretic_n hieron_n cont_n luâ—ferianos_fw-la prope_fw-la 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how_o unine_o our_o answerer_n claim_v kindred_n with_o the_o primitive_a church_n 72_o reply_v pag._n 72_o â—_o the_o jesuite_n begin_v like_o a_o bedlam_n or_o frantic_a here_o our_o answerer_n like_o saul_n in_o his_o distress_n run_v upon_o his_o own_o weapon_n and_o with_o achitophel_n be_v strangle_v in_o a_o knot_n of_o his_o own_o twist_v ibid._n reply_v ibid._n jesuite_n i_o confess_v do_v not_o fall_v upon_o their_o own_o sword_n but_o make_v other_o to_o fall_v by_o they_o yet_o they_o can_v deny_v that_o some_o of_o they_o have_v be_v choke_v with_o halter_n which_o they_o never_o twist_v themselves_o and_o meritorious_o but_o how_o far_o the_o most_o learned_a primate_n be_v from_o saul_n any_o man_n may_v see_v when_o his_o learned_a answer_n have_v make_v the_o jesuite_n to_o travail_v vagabound_v to_o compile_v and_o build_v up_o this_o frame_n which_o he_o have_v send_v we_o and_o whereas_o he_o assimilate_v he_o to_o achitophel_n i_o think_v he_o ought_v not_o from_o 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unto_o she_o have_v waste_v away_o such_o spot_n as_o impair_v both_o the_o bounty_n and_o health_n too_o of_o that_o ancient_a church_n 7â—_n reply_v pag._n 7â—_n and_o what_o hinder_v this_o but_o the_o church_n of_o ireland_n may_v claim_v kindred_n with_o the_o ancient_a roman_a why_o he_o tell_v we_o if_o the_o ancient_a roman_a church_n be_v the_o true_a church_n and_o spouse_n of_o christ_n for_o 500_o year_n as_o he_o will_v â—oâ—_n deny_v what_o may_v we_o think_v of_o his_o i_o pray_v you_o which_o he_o himself_o do_v grant_v to_o be_v unlike_a unto_o the_o same_o 72_o reply_v pag_n 72_o do_v dissimilitude_n take_v away_o kindred_n brethren_n may_v be_v unlike_a as_o jacob_n and_o esau_n why_o not_o sister_n it_o be_v sufficient_a to_o conclude_v a_o prince_n of_o the_o house_n of_o austria_n from_o the_o lip_n although_o they_o much_o vary_v in_o their_o other_o proportion_n hypocrates_n his_o twin_n be_v not_o i_o think_v in_o all_o part_n so_o alike_o as_o the_o jesuite_n 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nestâ—riâ—â—_n for_o â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d doubt_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o thâ—sâ—_n 〈◊〉_d do_v iâ—_n judgement_n agree_v with_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d 95._o reply_v pag._n 94_o 95._o but_o all_o the_o whâ—â—e_o he_o do_v little_o consider_v that_o his_o own_o do_v not_o agree_v with_o he_o what_o make_v the_o consent_n of_o father_n for_o 〈◊〉_d will_v haâ—e_v those_o to_o be_v counâ—â—â—_n all_o the_o doctor_n that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v just_o 〈◊〉_d from_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o rest_n neglect_v 〈◊〉_d greg._n de_fw-fr valen_n loco_fw-la supra_fw-la citat_fw-la omnes_fw-la esse_fw-la censentur_fw-la iâ—_n quorum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d omnibus_fw-la consideratis_fw-la â—ruditionis_fw-la piâ—tatis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n ut_fw-la à _fw-la prudentibus_fw-la certè_fw-la â—â—â—um_fw-la solummodò_fw-la ratio_fw-la habeâ—i_fw-la debâ—â—t_fw-la câ—â—â—ris_fw-la neglectis_fw-la quasi_fw-la nihil_fw-la 〈◊〉_d si_fw-la cum_fw-la illis_fw-la 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o be_v of_o 〈◊〉_d that_o 〈◊〉_d of_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d collect_v by_o hiâ—_n practiâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d say_v he_o concâ—â—â—ing_n augustiâ—â—_n who_o 〈◊〉_d malachy'_v dayâ—â—â—_n sacrifice_v of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o pâ—â—yers_n of_o 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—â—_o â—_o aâ—or_fw-es inst_z mor_fw-fr part_n 1._o lib_n 10_o cap._n â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d there_o be_v onâ—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d â—_z â—â—â—ing_a thâ—â—_n be_v 〈◊〉_d the_o rest_n now_o if_o 〈◊〉_d take_v consent_n of_o father_n according_a to_o 〈◊〉_d than_o we_o â—inde_v a_o conseâ—t_n of_o father_n in_o a_o point_n of_o 〈◊〉_d against_o 〈◊〉_d catholic_a church_n â—â—_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d father_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d origâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d aâ—brose_n tradiderunt_fw-la â—_o stapleton_n deâ—ens_n ecclesiastic_a 〈…〉_o quod_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d it_o 〈◊〉_d 〈…〉_o non_fw-it sunt_fw-la â—â—sensâ—_n sed_fw-la sententiam_fw-la contrariam_fw-la tradiderunt_fw-la clemâ—ns_n 〈◊〉_d and_o berâ—ard_n do_v not_o assent_v unto_o the_o 〈◊〉_d which_o 〈◊〉_d say_v he_o in_o the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o flâ—rence_n 〈…〉_o if_o you_o desire_v more_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d justinus_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d with_o these_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d obligandi_fw-la 〈…〉_o obligandi_fw-la for_o your_o consent_n whether_o it_o will_v prove_v better_o for_o you_o thâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d have_v do_v i_o can_v tell_v but_o i_o be_o sure_a that_o the_o answerer_n who_o dare_v try_v the_o 〈◊〉_d by_o the_o father_n which_o he_o be_v â—ot_n â—ounâ—_n unto_o their_o consent_n be_v not_o by_o 〈◊〉_d confession_n the_o 〈◊〉_d of_o faith_n â—â—_o confident_a that_o by_o they_o you_o will_v not_o find_v two_o witness_n much_o lesseâ—enne_n that_o will_v justify_v your_o cause_n without_o a_o personal_a or_o at_o least_o material_a opposition_n and_o therefore_o howsoever_o this_o be_v not_o their_o general_a consent_n if_o we_o speak_v proper_o yet_o we_o will_v presume_v iâ—_n to_o be_v so_o for_o the_o present_a to_o see_v whether_o you_o be_v able_a to_o perform_v any_o thing_n that_o so_o glorious_o boast_v of_o so_o much_o which_o we_o be_v confident_a you_o can_v in_o regard_v some_o of_o your_o point_n mention_v be_v confess_v by_o your_o own_o neither_o to_o be_v in_o father_n oâ—_n scripture_n at_o all_o as_o adâ—â—â—tion_n of_o image_n for_o so_o massâ—â—â—â—_n in_o libelliâ—_n de_fw-fr picturiâ—_n &_o imaginibâ—â—_n do_v seem_v to_o acknowledge_v and_o roffensâ—s_v your_o martyr_n have_v the_o same_o opinion_n or_o but_o a_o very_a little_a better_a of_o the_o scorch_a article_n of_o your_o purgatory_n faith_n â—4_n faith_n see_v before_o pag._n â—4_n so_o that_o the_o jesuite_n have_v little_a cause_n to_o think_v that_o we_o â—eaâ—e_n the_o testimony_n of_o father_n for_o the_o point_n in_o controversy_n when_o as_o wise_a as_o himself_o know_v that_o they_o be_v not_o thâ—â—â—_n to_o be_v find_v but_o though_o wâ—â—ermit_v this_o for_o the_o preseâ—â—_n to_o see_v whether_o the_o jesuite_n can_v prove_v any_o thing_n by_o his_o own_o touchstone_n yet_o it_o will_v not_o be_v amiss_o to_o consider_v that_o his_o collection_n out_z of_o s._n augustine_n be_v reject_v by_o that_o father_n testimony_n for_o whereas_o the_o jesuite_n insinâ—â—teth_v that_o s._n augustine_n be_v of_o opinion_n that_o the_o common_a faith_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n may_v sufficient_o be_v prâ—â—â—d_n by_o the_o uniform_a doctrine_n â—f_a 1â—_n chief_a father_n yet_o when_o s._n hierome_n bring_v a_o â—umber_n of_o father_n s._n augustine_n stick_v not_o to_o answer_v he_o in_o this_o manner_n i_o may_v as_o i_o believe_v easy_o findâ—_n some_o father_n to_o be_v of_o the_o contrary_a opinion_n if_o i_o do_v read_v much_o but_o the_o very_a apostle_n s._n paul_n offer_v himselfâ—â—â—tâ—â—eâ—_n for_o all_o these_o yâ—â—_n above_o all_o these_o to_o he_o i_o â—lye_v to_o he_o i_o appeal_v from_o all_o other_o interpreter_n and_o seek_v unto_o he_o in_o that_o which_o he_o write_v to_o the_o galathian_o 〈…〉_o galathian_o aâ—gust_n epist_n 1â—_n â—oâ—â—eâ—_n quâ—dem_fw-la ut_fw-la arbitroâ—_fw-la facilè_fw-la repeâ—â—râ—_n â—i_fw-mi 〈…〉_o ipse_fw-la 〈◊〉_d â—ro_fw-mi his_o 〈◊〉_d â—â—ò_fw-la supra_fw-la â—os_v omnes_fw-la apostolic_a paulus_n â—ccuâ—â—â—â—_n ad_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ad_fw-la ipsum_fw-la aâ—_n omnibâ—_n qui_fw-la aliud_fw-la senâ—iâ—nt_fw-la liteâ—â—â—â—â—_n ejus_fw-la 〈…〉_o provoâ—â—â—_n 〈◊〉_d iâ—â—â—ogaâ—â—_n 〈◊〉_d &_o â—â—_o quâ—â—o_o in_o â—â—_o quod_fw-la 〈…〉_o and_o by_o this_o which_o have_v be_v say_v we_o perceive_v that_o the_o jesuite_n in_o a_o manner_n be_v urge_v to_o confess_v that_o this_o rule_n want_v perfection_n and_o that_o the_o father_n consent_n can_v be_v absolute_o produce_v but_o presume_v only_o neither_o do_v it_o please_v the_o jesuite_n the_o other_o caution_n lay_v down_o thâ—â—_n he_o must_v prâ—â—ve_v that_o the_o father_n hold_v thâ—se_a point_v not_o only_o general_o but_o as_o appertain_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n and_o from_o hence_o he_o will_v collect_v that_o the_o most_o learned_a answerer_n fear_v that_o they_o shall_v be_v able_a to_o prove_v that_o the_o father_n hâ—lde_v they_o general_o indeed_o and_o therefore_o provide_v this_o revy_z â—rgeing_v they_o to_o prove_v further_o that_o they_o hold_v they_o as_o appertain_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n â—â—_o religion_n reply_v p_o â—â—_o a_o fit_a collection_n for_o a_o wise_a apprehension_n before_o he_o tell_v we_o that_o in_o point_n noâ—_n determine_v she_o the_o church_n grant_v free_a liberty_n unto_o all_o catholic_a doctor_n to_o expound_v aswell_o the_o scripture_n as_o the_o father_n for_o the_o uphold_v of_o that_o part_n which_o themselves_o do_v think_v to_o be_v most_o probable_a 9â—_n probable_a reply_v pag_n 9â—_n in_o which_o he_o mean_v that_o the_o scripture_n in_o point_n not_o determine_v as_o in_o the_o cause_n of_o predestination_n and_o conception_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n might_n be_v interpret_v against_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o father_n as_o the_o two_o jesuite_n pererius_n and_o maldonate_fw-it have_v do_v and_o the_o father_n themselves_o expound_v with_o such_o a_o gloss_n as_o make_v best_a for_o the_o uphold_v of_o that_o part_n now_o if_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o father_n be_v able_a to_o determine_v a_o point_n that_o be_v not_o the_o fide_fw-la why_o be_v they_o reject_v by_o the_o jesuite_n and_o the_o jesuite_n justify_v by_o mr_n malone_n if_o the_o father_n consent_n have_v strength_n only_o in_o point_n of_o faith_n why_o do_v he_o quarrel_v at_o this_o caution_n which_o he_o must_v acknowledge_v necessary_a not_o proceed_v from_o fear_n but_o from_o a_o wise_a and_o prudent_a consideration_n and_o to_o prevent_v we_o herein_o say_v the_o jesuite_n he_o affirm_v before_o hand_n that_o the_o say_v point_n be_v not_o all_o chief_a article_n of_o faith_n 93._o faith_n reply_v pag._n 93._o what_o do_v he_o labour_n to_o prevent_v you_o in_o unless_o it_o be_v
in_o resist_v you_o make_v those_o article_n of_o faith_n which_o be_v never_o of_o universal_a belief_n in_o the_o christian_a world_n but_o to_o who_o do_v he_o tell_v these_o tale_n if_o to_o those_o of_o his_o own_o profession_n it_o be_v idle_a and_o needless_a if_o to_o we_o it_o be_v most_o â—â—â—rue_a for_o say_v he_o it_o be_v well_o know_v that_o with_o we_o they_o be_v certain_o account_v chief_a article_n of_o faith_n be_v all_o of_o they_o declare_v for_o such_o by_o the_o sacred_a and_o infallible_a â—â—thâ—â—itie_n of_o the_o church_n ibid._n church_n reply_v ibid._n it_o be_v neither_o â—eedelesse_a for_o his_o own_o nor_o untrue_a be_v deliver_v to_o your_o self_n for_o the_o most_o reverend_a father_n know_v it_o be_v his_o duty_n daily_o to_o persuade_v against_o faith-intrusion_n for_o the_o preservation_n of_o his_o own_o neither_o can_v your_o argument_n make_v it_o untrue_a for_o be_v all_o thing_n you_o account_n or_o the_o trent_n câ—â—ncell_n have_v determine_v of_o so_o necessary_a light_n that_o every_o man_n must_v believe_v they_o you_o may_v persuade_v this_o in_o peru_n or_o mexico_n but_o your_o neighbour_n the_o venetians_n will_v not_o believe_v you_o that_o dwell_v near_a home_n neither_o have_v all_o your_o catholic_a child_n such_o opinion_n of_o that_o council_n as_o to_o receive_v it_o now_o our_o jesuite_n will_v have_v they_o of_o faith_n from_o our_o confession_n neither_o can_v our_o adversaries_n themselves_o say_v he_o deny_v that_o they_o appertain_v to_o the_o substance_n of_o faith_n and_o religion_n sâ—â—ing_v that_o they_o condemn_v they_o for_o heresy_n in_o we_o 93._o we_o reply_v pag._n 93._o here_o the_o jesuite_n will_v not_o have_v a_o heresy_n to_o be_v but_o in_o point_n of_o faith_n that_o the_o denial_n thereof_o may_v exclude_v we_o from_o salvation_n if_o this_o be_v the_o rule_n by_o which_o the_o jesuite_n will_v try_v heresy_n i_o think_v these_o will_v not_o prove_v of_o that_o stamp_n in_o 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