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A52018 Roman Catholicks uncertain whether there be any true priests or sacraments in the church of Rome evinced by an argument urg'd and maintain'd (upon their own principles) against Mr. Edward Goodall of Prescot in Lancashire / by Thomas Marsden ... Marsden, Thomas. 1688 (1688) Wing M725; ESTC R726 93,249 146

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to_o they_o yet_o we_o have_v no_o ordinary_a observable_a commerce_n with_o they_o 3._o nor_o have_v rule_n to_o discern_v their_o true_a declaration_n of_o fact_n from_o satanical_a delusion_n i_o therefore_o make_v the_o testimony_n of_o god_n and_o man_n to_o be_v a_o sufficient_a partition_n of_o authority_n in_o the_o present_a case_n i_o shall_v now_o make_v good_a both_o part_n of_o the_o antecedent_n and_o then_o the_o consequent_a will_v stand_v firm_a firm_a 2._o 1._o it_o be_v not_o knowable_a by_o any_o revelation_n of_o god._n for_o if_o we_o read_v scripture_n from_o beginning_n to_o end_n we_o shall_v find_v neither_o prophecy_n to_o foretell_v nor_o promise_v to_o assure_v that_o all_o the_o roman_a bishop_n in_o general_a nor_o this_o or_o that_o in_o particular_a throughout_o the_o several_a century_n from_o the_o apostle_n day_n nor_o in_o any_o one_o of_o they_o shall_v in_o their_o ordination_n intend_v the_o end_n of_o their_o institution_n or_o to_o do_v 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nemo_fw-la enim_fw-la sanae_fw-la ment_fw-mi be_v potest_fw-la regare_fw-la quod_fw-la roma_fw-la sit_fw-la bidem_fw-la moral_a certainty_n shut_v out_o all_o doubt_n it_o convince_v and_o necessitate_v the_o understanding_n to_o assent_v for_o no_o man_n in_o his_o wit_n can_v deny_v that_o there_o be_v such_o a_o place_n as_o rome_n melchior_n canus_n speak_v of_o thing_n so_o attest_v come_v up_o to_o the_o same_o height_n 4._o height_n haec_fw-la non_fw-la modo_fw-la negare_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o his_o otiam_fw-la addubitare_fw-la stultissimum_fw-la est_fw-la le_fw-fr locis_fw-la theolog_fw-la li._n 11._o c_o 4._o it_o be_v a_o most_o foolish_a thing_n not_o only_o to_o deny_v these_o thing_n but_o even_o to_o doubt_v of_o they_o it_o reach_v so_o near_o to_o the_o certainty_n of_o sense_n that_o suarez_n advance_v such_o a_o attestation_n to_o a_o kind_n of_o evidence_n 2._o evidence_n humana_fw-la quaedam_fw-la evidentia_fw-la de_fw-fr trip._n virt_n theol._n disp_n 10._o sect_n 2._o have_v thus_o recount_v the_o pillar_n that_o bear_v up_o moral_a certainty_n and_o also_o show_v the_o weight_n of_o the_o assent_n that_o rest_v upon_o they_o i_o shall_v now_o set_v forth_o by_o way_n of_o comparison_n that_o the_o pretend_a knowledge_n of_o the_o intention_n have_v no_o such_o firmament_n to_o support_v it_o it_o 9_o 1._o it_o be_v not_o a_o sensible_a object_n but_o a_o spiritual_a or_o immaterial_a act_n shut_v up_o in_o a_o faculty_n which_o as_o we_o have_v see_v already_o 4._o already_o part_n 11._o sect._n 4._o be_v inaccessible_a to_o the_o eye_n of_o man_n and_o angle_n angle_n 10._o 2._o and_o consequent_o as_o no_o creature_n can_v see_v it_o but_o the_o single_a agent_n himself_o so_o none_o be_v capable_a of_o contradict_v his_o relation_n of_o it_o if_o it_o shall_v be_v as_o it_o may_v be_v in_o itself_o false_a so_o then_o a_o grand_a rule_n of_o trial_n most_o conducible_a to_o moral_a assurance_n be_v want_v on_o this_o score_n and_o then_o what_o a_o
doubtful_a we_o be_v rather_o to_o interpret_v they_o in_o the_o more_o favourable_a sense_n when_o there_o be_v a_o obligation_n upon_o we_o to_o pass_v our_o judgement_n but_o this_o tie_n of_o make_v a_o charitable_a judgement_n be_v too_o weak_a a_o stay_n for_o conscience_n in_o the_o great_a concern_v of_o religion_n such_o as_o the_o minister_n intention_n on_o which_o you_o make_v your_o baptism_n the_o consecration_n of_o the_o eucharist_n etc._n etc._n depend_v this_o will_v appear_v by_o consider_v these_o two_o thing_n thing_n 26._o 1._o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n always_o suppose_v the_o object_n uncertain_a or_o to_o speak_v more_o proper_o the_o understanding_n uncertain_a for_o what_o needs_o charity_n come_v into_o the_o scale_n if_o evidence_n have_v weigh_v it_o down_o beforehand_o what_o need_v the_o will_v come_v into_o the_o work_n but_o that_o the_o understanding_n be_v at_o a_o loss_n loss_n 27._o 2._o the_o soul_n be_v not_o a_o jot_n near_a truth_n by_o 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the_o premise_n be_v true_a the_o conclusion_n be_v so_o too_o viz._n the_o church_n of_o rome_n require_v a_o condition_n to_o ordination_n which_o no_o man_n live_v know_v whether_o it_o be_v fulfil_v or_o no._n i_o confess_v i_o have_v extend_v my_o proof_n to_o a_o far_o great_a latitude_n as_o i_o have_v do_v some_o other_o thing_n in_o these_o paper_n than_o any_o thing_n you_o have_v offer_v exact_v from_o i_o but_o i_o have_v rather_o be_v accuse_v of_o be_v over_o than_o short_a beside_o i_o have_v a_o mind_n to_o prevent_v the_o often_o re-hearing_a of_o the_o cause_n to_o which_o several_a little_a new_a suggestion_n may_v give_v occasion_n by_o a_o more_o particular_a sift_v of_o it_o i_o have_v also_o a_o respect_n to_o some_o other_o who_o have_v never_o see_v the_o subject_a set_v in_o a_o full_a light_n but_o after_o all_o i_o be_o sensible_a i_o have_v do_v something_o more_o than_o need_v need_v 30._o i_o have_v indeed_o consider_v the_o proposition_n only_o under_o the_o limitation_n before_o express_v except_v the_o ordain_v bishop_n out_o of_o no_o man_n live_v know_v who_o may_v therefore_o pretend_v to_o know_v their_o own_o intention_n and_o by_o consequence_n that_o there_o be_v true_a priest_n among_o you_o but_o if_o a_o interpretation_n i_o give_v you_o of_o my_o proposition_n at_o pn._n have_v not_o without_o reason_n be_v displease_v to_o you_o what_o i_o have_v already_o do_v will_v have_v leave_v your_o bishop_n unsecure_v of_o your_o priesthood_n as_o well_o as_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o your_o communion_n however_o i_o shall_v with_o little_a ado_n cure_v that_o defect_n by_o offer_v the_o same_o thing_n in_o such_o word_n as_o will_v not_o i_o think_v be_v evade_v sect_n vii_o the_o ordain_v bishop_n not_o certain_a whether_o there_o be_v true_a priest_n in_o the_o roman_a church_n have_v already_o prove_v that_o all_o roman_a catholic_n except_o the_o ordain_v bishop_n be_v uncertain_a whether_o the_o say_v bishop_n intend_v aright_o in_o their_o particular_a ordination_n and_o consequent_o as_o uncertain_a whether_o they_o make_v any_o true_a priest_n i_o come_v now_o to_o prove_v that_o the_o ordain_v bishop_n so_o call_v be_v uncertain_a whether_o or_o no_o they_o intend_v with_o such_o a_o intention_n as_o be_v available_a or_o effectual_a to_o ordination_n in_o order_n hereunto_o i_o will_v let_v my_o first_o syllogism_n stand_v as_o before_o l._n before_o part_n i._o sect._n l._n the_o minor_a proposition_n of_o it_o which_o only_o can_v regular_o be_v deny_v be_v this_o the_o roman_a church_n require_v a_o condition_n to_o ordination_n which_o no_o man_n live_v know_v whither_o or_o no_o it_o be_v fulfil_v to_o wrap_v up_o the_o bishop_n in_o the_o same_o uncertainty_n with_o the_o rest_n i_o prove_v it_o thus_o the_o intention_n of_o a_o person_n who_o be_v a_o true_a bishop_n be_v a_o condition_n which_o no_o man_n live_v know_v the_o ordainer_n themselves_o not_o except_v whether_o it_o be_v fulfil_v in_o ordination_n but_o the_o roman_a church_n require_v the_o intention_n of_o a_o person_n who_o be_v a_o true_a bishop_n to_o ordination_n ergo_fw-la the_o roman_a church_n require_v a_o condition_n to_o ordination_n which_o no_o man_n live_v know_v the_o ordainer_n themselves_o not_o except_v whether_o it_o be_v fulfil_v in_o ordination_n the_o minor_a be_v clear_a for_o it_o be_v not_o every_o man_n use_v the_o matter_n and_o form_n of_o the_o church_n and_o intend_v to_o do_v as_o the_o church_n do_v although_o you_o say_v this_o may_v suffice_v to_o baptism_n that_o you_o hold_v to_o be_v sufficient_a to_o ordination_n you_o judge_v not_o only_a layman_n but_o simple_a priest_n uncapable_a of_o do_v that_o work_n as_o the_o curse_n of_o your_o trent-council_n make_v appear_v 7._o appear_v si_fw-mi quis_fw-la dixcrit_fw-fr episcopos_fw-la non_fw-la esse_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la superiores_fw-la vel_fw-la non_fw-la babete_fw-la potestatem_fw-la confirmandi_fw-la &_o ordinandi_fw-la vel_fw-la cam_fw-la quam_fw-la habent_fw-la illis_fw-la cum_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la communem_fw-la esse_fw-la auathema_n sit_v sess_n 23._o can._n 7._o if_o any_o one_o shall_v say_v that_o bishop_n be_v not_o superior_a to_o priest_n or_o have_v not_o the_o power_n of_o confirm_v and_o ordain_v or_o that_o the_o power_n they_o have_v be_v common_a to_o they_o with_o priest_n let_v he_o be_v anathema_n the_o ordain_a than_o must_v of_o necessity_n be_v a_o bishop_n this_o for_o the_o minor._n if_o there_o be_v any_o difficulty_n in_o the_o matter_n it_o respect_v the_o major_a but_o i_o be_o now_o to_o show_v there_o be_v none_o at_o all_o this_o than_o i_o lay_v down_o as_o evident_a except_o the_o ordainer_n know_v that_o he_o be_v in_o truth_n what_o he_o be_v call_v viz._n a_o bishop_n he_o know_v not_o that_o his_o intention_n be_v such_o as_o operate_v in_o and_o be_v effectual_a to_o ordination_n nor_o consequent_o that_o he_o make_v a_o true_a priest_n my_o 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