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therefore_o call_v saint_n and_o golden_a candlestick_n and_o holy_a natio_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o though_o all_o the_o material_n in_o this_o build_n be_v to_o be_v proportionable_a and_o pure_a to_o make_v up_o a_o representative_a of_o the_o church_n above_o yet_o all_o be_v not_o of_o one_o square_a and_o measure_n and_o polish_n some_o be_v great_a and_o some_o less_o some_o babe_n and_o child_n in_o christ_n some_o smoke_a flax_n and_o bruise_a reed_n and_o as_o this_o church_n bear_v the_o image_n of_o the_o heavenly_a so_o the_o mateâ—â—â—ll_a one_o bear_v the_o image_n of_o this_o there_o be_v pâ—ne_v stone_n gold_z and_o cedar_n so_o as_o there_o be_v room_n in_o the_o church_n now_o for_o any_o small_a stone_n or_o the_o least_o piece_n of_o timber_n if_o it_o be_v but_o lively_a or_o square_v if_o cedar_n or_o firrâ—_n how_o christ_n be_v a_o king_n of_o the_o nation_n and_o of_o the_o church_n and_o how_o a_o head_n christ_n be_v a_o king_n to_o the_o nation_n and_o to_o the_o church_n nor_o do_v he_o rule_v the_o nation_n as_o the_o church_n nor_o the_o church_n as_o the_o nation_n he_o rule_v ministerial_o in_o his_o church_n and_o monarchical_o in_o the_o nation_n he_o rule_v with_o a_o goldâ—n_a sceptre_n in_o his_o church_n with_o a_o iron_n rod_n in_o the_o nation_n nor_o do_v christ_n rule_v as_o the_o king_n of_o the_o nation_n who_o find_v people_n rude_a barbarous_a uncivil_a subdue_v they_o into_o obedience_n and_o civility_n but_o so_o do_v not_o christ_n in_o his_o church_n that_o we_o know_v on_o the_o dispensation_n of_o his_o word_n not_o of_o the_o government_n first_o â—ubdues_v and_o it_o be_v true_a christ_n be_v a_o head_n but_o not_o a_o head_n to_o every_o body_n he_o will_v have_v a_o body_n proportionable_a to_o his_o head_n both_o here_o and_o hereafter_o in_o earth_n as_o well_o as_o in_o heaven_n he_o be_v a_o pure_a holy_a glorious_a head_n in_o his_o gospel-dispensation_n and_o
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in_o the_o garden_n in_o the_o cool_a of_o the_o day_n oh_o can_v we_o find_v out_o the_o cool_v time_n to_o speak_v and_o write_v one_o to_o another_o in_o and_o not_o in_o the_o heat_n of_o the_o day_n as_o we_o do_v when_o a_o state-conscience_n be_v full_o persuade_v doubtful_a and_o so_o sin_v it_o be_v with_o a_o public_a or_o state-conscience_n as_o it_o be_v a_o personal_a or_o particular_a conscience_n what_o be_v do_v must_v be_v do_v in_o faith_n or_o else_o there_o be_v weakness_n doubt_v and_o sin_n now_o where_o there_o be_v not_o a_o full_a consent_n and_o persuasion_n from_o the_o word_n of_o faith_n there_o can_v be_v faith_n proper_o and_o where_o there_o be_v not_o a_o word_n of_o faith_n for_o that_o conscience_n to_o be_v ground_v upon_o there_o can_v be_v a_o pure_o and_o spiritual_o full_a persuasion_n and_o one_o may_v question_v whether_o in_o spiritual_n as_o in_o civil_n vote_n and_o voice_n be_v to_o make_v law_n for_o in_o the_o gospel_n we_o find_v that_o divine_a law_n have_v their_o subsistence_n there_o without_o the_o vote_n of_o any_o and_o that_o be_v only_o to_o be_v a_o law_n or_o truth_n in_o the_o church_n and_o kingdom_n of_o saint_n not_o what_o be_v so_o in_o the_o common_a consent_n or_o voice_n but_o what_o be_v a_o law_n in_o the_o very_a gospell-truth_n of_o it_o if_o the_o law_n of_o truth_n be_v found_v as_o the_o law_n of_o civill-state_n in_o a_o mere_a legislative_a power_n then_o popery_n have_v have_v as_o good_a assurance_n as_o any_o they_o have_v have_v most_o uâ—ces_n most_o counsel_n and_o so_o arrianâ—sm_n when_o the_o world_n go_v after_o it_o postscript_n the_o testimony_n of_o salmasius_n the_o approve_a german_a writer_n of_o the_o presbyterial_a way_n and_o employ_v by_o the_o state_n of_o holland_n to_o write_v that_o the_o baptism_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n be_v not_o that_o way_n of_o baptism_n practise_v by_o the_o apostle_n the_o baptism_n of_o apostolical_a use_n and_o institution_n be_v in_o the_o river_n not_o with_o invocation_n of_o the_o three_o person_n see_v the_o apostle_n baptise_a only_o in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n in_o his_o own_o latin_a thus_o baptisma_fw-la in_o aquis_fw-la perennibus_fw-la apostolici_fw-la instituti_fw-la &_o moris_fw-la sed_fw-la non_fw-la invocatio_fw-la trinitatis_fw-la super_fw-la baptizatum_fw-la cum_fw-la apostli_fw-la in_o solo_fw-la nomine_fw-la jesu_fw-la baptizarent_fw-la salmasius_n in_o apparatu_fw-la ad_fw-la libros_fw-la de_fw-la primatu_fw-la papae_fw-la fol._n 193._o salmasius_n his_o testimony_n against_o the_o present_a presbyteriall-way_n duobus_fw-la modis_fw-la haâ—_n independentia_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la accipi_fw-la potest_fw-la si_fw-la vel_fw-la respectum_fw-la non_fw-la habeant_fw-la ad_fw-la vicinas_fw-la ullas_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la aut_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la pendeant_fw-la ab_fw-la authoritate_fw-la aliquot_fw-la ecclesiarum_fw-la simul_fw-la in_o unam_fw-la classem_fw-la vel_fw-la synodum_fw-la conjunctarum_fw-la cujus_fw-la conventus_fw-la partem_fw-la &_o ipsae_fw-la faciant_fw-la prio_fw-la modus_fw-la similior_fw-la reperitur_fw-la primitivae_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la praxi_fw-la consueâ—udini_fw-la ac_fw-la usui_fw-la quo_fw-la voluntaria_fw-la haec_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d et_fw-la communio_fw-la inter_fw-la ecclesias_fw-la fuit_fw-la posterior_n magis_fw-la convenit_fw-la eum_fw-la instituto_fw-la quod_fw-la postea_fw-la juris_fw-la humani_fw-la dispositione_n introductum_fw-la est_fw-la hoc_fw-la posteriore_fw-la modo_fw-la lâ—berâ—as_fw-la particularium_fw-la ecclesiarium_fw-la magis_fw-la immmuta_fw-la videtur_fw-la quam_fw-la priore_fw-la sed_fw-la quod_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la fuerit_fw-la voluntatis_fw-la postea_fw-la factum_fw-la est_fw-la juris_fw-la et_fw-la hoc_fw-la jus_o sane_fw-la positivum_fw-la atque_fw-la ecclesiasticum_fw-la humanumque_fw-la non_fw-la divinum_fw-la 4._o juris_fw-la est_fw-la quidem_fw-la divini_fw-la ut_fw-la una_fw-la siâ—_n ecclesia_fw-la christi_fw-la unitas_fw-la autem_fw-la ejus_fw-la non_fw-la gregalium_fw-la aut_fw-la concorporalâ—um_fw-la plurium_fw-la adunata_fw-la collectione_n consistat_fw-la sed_fw-la in_o fidei_fw-la ac_fw-la doctrine_n unanimi_fw-la consensione_n pag._n 265_o 266_o in_fw-la apparatu_fw-la in_o english_a thus_o this_o independency_n of_o church_n may_v be_v take_v two_o way_n either_o as_o not_o have_v respect_n to_o any_o neighbour_n church_n or_o as_o not_o depend_v on_o the_o authority_n of_o â—ome_o church_n that_o be_v join_v in_o some_o classis_fw-la or_o synod_n of_o which_o the_o church_n themselves_o may_v make_v a_o paâ—t_n the_o former_a way_n be_v find_v to_o be_v more_o like_o the_o practice_n custom_n and_o use_v of_o the_o primitive_a church_n whereby_o this_o voluntary_a communion_n be_v among_o thâ—_n church_n the_o latter_a way_n do_v more_o agree_v with_o the_o institution_n which_o afterward_o be_v introduce_v by_o a_o humane_a authority_n by_o this_o latter_a way_n the_o liberty_n of_o particular_a church_n seem_v to_o be_v lâ—sse_o diminish_v then_o by_o the_o former_a but_o that_o which_o from_o the_o beginning_n be_v arbitrary_a afterward_o be_v make_v necessary_a as_o a_o law_n this_o law_n true_o be_v positive_a and_o ecclesiastical_a aâ—d_n humane_a not_o divine_a it_o be_v â—y_a a_o divine_a law_n that_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n shall_v be_v one_o but_o the_o unity_n of_o it_o do_v not_o consist_v in_o the_o union_n oâ—_n collection_n of_o many_o that_o be_v of_o the_o â—ame_n flock_n or_o body_n but_o in_o the_o unanimous_a consent_n agreement_n in_o faith_n and_o doctrine_n page_n 65_o 66._o in_o apparatu_fw-la finis_fw-la these_o groan_n for_o liberty_n out_o of_o smectymnuus_n his_o own_o mouth_n i_o approve_v to_o be_v print_v feb._n 27._o 1645._o john_n bachiler_n if_o any_o be_v ignorant_a who_o this_o smectymnuus_n be_v stephen_n martial_n edmund_n calamy_n thomas_n young_a can_v tell_v you_o matthew_n newcomen_fw-mi william_n spurstow_n groan_v for_o liberty_n psesent_v from_o the_o presbyterian_a former_o nonconforming_a brethren_n repute_v the_o able_a and_o most_o learned_a among_o they_o in_o some_o treatise_n call_v