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A66146 A continuation of the present state of the controversy between the Church of England and the Church of Rome being a full account of the books that have been of late written on both sides. Wake, William, 1657-1737. 1688 (1688) Wing W235; ESTC R34697 42,451 95

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first under this Title 6. Dr. Sherlock's Preservative considered First Part with its Defence c. By Lewis Sabran of the Society of Jesus This Answer was writ in such a violence of Passion and does charge the Reverend Master of the Temple at such a rate with Ignorance Calumny and God knows what that he hath at last condefcended to chastise this ignorant Jesuit himself and the World will very speedily see that never Man set Pen to Paper with such a stock of Ignorance and Considence together as this Father Sabran After which if he shall still continue to write in spite both of good Learning and of good Manners it is to be hoped that at least we shall be excused by all those who have any share of either if we do not give either our selves or them the trouble of any farther Replies to him A Vindication of both Parts of the Preservative against Popery In Answer to the Cavils of Lewis Sabran Jesuit By William Sherlock D.D. Master of the Temple II. Of the CHURCH 1. A Discourse of the Unity of the Catholic Church maintained in the Church of England 2. A Discourse about the Charge of Novelty upon the Reformed Church of England made by the Papists asking of us the Question Where was our Religion before LUTHER 3. The Protestant Resolution of Faith being an Answer to three Questions 1. How far we must depend on the Authority of the Church for the true Sense of Scripture 2. Whether a Visible Succession from Christ to this day makes a Church which has this Visible Succession an Infallible Interpreter of Scripture 3. Whether the Church of England can make out such a Visible Succession 4. Two Discourses concerning the Necessity of Reformation with respect to the Errors and corruptions of the Church of Rome There was a Third Part intended by the Reverend and Learned Author of these two Discourses which we have hopes that it will be published ere long under the same Title III. Of the Rule of Faith. 1. A Discourse about Tradition shewing what is meant by it and what Tradition is to be received and what is to be rejected 2. A Discourse concerning a Guide in matters of Faith with respect especially to the Romish pretence of such a one as is Infalliable IV. Of Particular Points 1. A Discourse concerning the Object of Religious Worship or a Scripture-proof of the unlawfulness of giving any Religious Worship to any other Being besides the Supreme God. 2. A Discourse concerning the Devotions of the Church of Rome especially as compared with those of the Church of England In which it is shewn that whatsoever the Romanists pretend there is not so true Devotion among them nor such rational provision for it nor Encouragement to it as in the Church Establish'd by Law amongst us 3. A Discourse concerning the Invocation of Saints 4. Of Prayer in an Unknown Tongue 5. Of Auricular Confession as it is prescribed by the Council of Trent 6. A Discourse against Transubstantiation 7. Of the Adoration of the Host These are the several Discourses mention'd in the former † Present State pag. 5 6 7 8. Catalogue to these I must add several others that have since been publish'd 8. Two Discourses of Purgatory and Prayers for the Dead To which I may subjoyn a Discourse just now publish'd viz. 9. Purgatory proved by Miracles c. 10. A Discourse concerning the Sacrifice of the Mass 11. Of Extreme Unction And here it may not be improper to observe that the Author of this Accurate Discourse thought fit to premise to it an Address to the Vindicator of the Bishop of Condom upon the occasion of some things just then publish'd by him in his Reply to our Expositor relating to this Argument but especially concerning Cardinal Cajetan's confessing that their only Text for this pretended Sacrament that of St. James made nothing for it To this the Vindicator gave a half-shee Reply called A Letter from the Vindicator of the Bishop of Condom to the Author of a late Discourse concerning the Sacrament of Extreme Unction And this produced another Letter in Reply to it Intituled A Second Letter from the Author of the Discourse concerning Extreme Unction to the Vindicator of the Bishop of Condom Which put an end to this Debate Though the Vindicator made us hope for a Reply to that Excellent Discourse but I presume will not esteem himself obliged to be as good as his word 12. A Treatise in confutation of the Latin Service practised and by the Order of the Trent Council continu'd in the Church of Rome 13. Of the Authority of Councils and the Rule of Faith. 14. Of the Celibacy of the Clergy 15. Of the incurable Scepticism of the Church of Rome 16. A Discourse concerning the Merits of Good Works 17. An Historical Discourse concerning the Necessity of the Ministers Intentions in administring the Sacrament I shall perhaps be look'd upon to have referr'd many Tracts to the number of these Discourses against the Papists that did not enter into the first design that was laid for them But I know not to what Head I could so properly refer them as to this and if they help to make up the Collection of Particular Points in Debate betwixt us it matters not by what Occasion or with what Design they were first composed I do not know that any more of these Treatises have been particularly attack'd by those of the other Communion except that one only against Transubstantiation which having after some years being let alone given at last occasion to a formed Controversie yet in agitation I will before I go any farther remark what has hitherto passed concerning it The first that appear'd in Answer to it was a Hot New-Convert under the Glorious Title of Reason and Authority or the Motives of a late Protestant's Reconciliation to the Catholic Church together with Remarks upon some late Discourses against Transubstantiation But the Performance was so mean so disproportion'd to the Strength and Merits of the Discourse he had undertaken to attack that it is to be presumed the weakness of the New Convert obliged some more able Controvertist to appear as his Second and to publish not long after a new and better Answer call'd Transubstantiation Defended and proved from Scripture in Answer to the First Part of a Treatise Intituled A Discourse against Transubstantiation And to make all sure a Third about the same time undertakes the same Cause in a Discourse which he calls An Answer to a Discourse against Transubstantiation It is no part of my Design to give any Character of these Treatises I will only observe that the Second which seems to have been written with the most care continues still unfinish'd the Author whoever he be having not yet thought fit to publish his 2d Part. Now this I the rather remark to satisfie those who have long expected our Reply to these Treatises what has been in some measure the Cause of the deferring
of the Controversie gave an account of the beginning of these how our Divines engaged themselves to a weekly consideration of them till they had past through the largest Catalogue we have yet had of these Notes viz. that of Cardinal Bellarmin They were then advanced to the third only but now the whole is finished and those little Exceptions which our Aaversaries thought fit to make to them are fully answered and they altogether compose a just Volume and plainly shew that were the Church indeed endued with all those Prerogatives they pretend it is yet would it stand them in no stead seeing that according to their own Notes the Church of Rome cannot possibly be the Catholic or Vniversal Church The Notes which on this occasion have been particularly examined are these 1. An Examination of BELLARMIN's First Note concerning the Name of Catholick 2. His Second Note Antiquity 3. His Third Note Duration 4. His Fourth Note Amplitude or Multitude and Variety of Believers 5. His Fifth Note The Succession of Bishops 6. His Sixth Note Agreement in Doctring with the Primitive Church 7. His Seventh Note Vnion of the Members among themselves and with the Head. 8. His Eighth Note Sanctity of Doctrine 9. His Ninth Note Efficacy of the Doctrine 10. His Tenth Note Holiness of Life 11. His eleventh Note The Glory of Miracles 12. His Twelfth Note The Light of Prophecy 13. His thirteenth Note Confession of Adversaries 14. His Fourteenth Note The unhappy End of the Church's Enemies 15. His Fifteenth Note Temporal Felicity To which is prefixed A Brief Discourse concerning the Notes of the Church with some Reflections on Cardinal Bellarmin's Notes And annexed A Vindication of the Brief Discourse concerning the Notes of the Church in Answer to a Late Pamphlet Intituled The Vse and great Moment of the Notes of the Church as delivered by Cardinal Bellarmin de Notis Ecclesia Justified A Defence of the Confuter of Bellarmin 's Second Note of the Church Antiquity against the Cavils of the Adviser II. Of the UNITY and AUTHORITY of the Church Of the Unity and Authority of the Church This is another Argument that has exercised the Pen of a very great Person amongst as The occasion of his entring on the Debate was given by the publishing of some Papers of His late Majesty and which are in every Bodies hand called 1. The two Papers written by the late King Charles the Second To these an Answer was published Intituled 2. An Answer to some Papers lately Printed concerning the Authority of the Catholick Church in matters of Faith and the Reformation of the Church of England It was not long before two of the other side appeared about the same time in defence of the Royal Papers The one very light and in some places even ridiculous and which shews that the Author's Talent lies towards Controversie no more in Prose than it appears by the Hind and Panther that it do's in Verse called 3. A Defence of the Papers written by the late King of Blessed Memory The other much ore solid and grave than the former Intituled 4. A Reply to the Answer made upon the Three Royal Papers To both of which the Learned Author returned a most accurate and elaborate Discourse viz. 5. A Vindication of the Answer to some late Papers concerning the Unity and Authority of the Catholic Church and the Reformation of the Church of England And thus far this Controversie proceeded But there have been some other Discourses besides these published on this Subject In particular the excellent Discourse just published by the Reverend Dr. Sherlock with this Title A Discourse concerning the Nature Unity Of the Authority and Infallibility of the Church and Communion of the Catholick Church Wherein most of the Controversies relating to the Church are briefly and plainly stated Part 1. by William Sherlock D. D. Master of the Temple To these for the Affinity of the Subject I cannot do better than adjoyn III. Such other Treatises as have been publish'd relating to the AUTHORITY and INFALLIBILITY of the Church Where first I will beg leave to mention some short Picces which have passed betwixt a Country Parson and a Bomish Missioner The occasion as I am informed was this The Minister having observed some Endeavours to seduce his Flock thought it his duty to give them some seasonable directions which he therefore published under this Title 1. The Country Parson's Admonition to his Parishioners with directions how to behave themselves when any one designs to seduce them from the Church of England In which Tract he advises his Parishioners as far as possible to avoid all Disputes about Religion But if the Importunity of others shall force them to it he then directs them how to bring the matter to a short issue viz. by putting them to prove the pretended Infallibility of the Church of Rome And this he manageth under the Title of 2. The Plain Man's Reply to the Catholic Missionaries I ought not to conceal how acceptable those little Pieces have been to the World nor what good they have done among those for whose use they were chiefly designed Of the Infallibility of the Church And this those of the other side have been so sensible of that they have thought it worth their while to set out a pretended Confutation of them both called 3. The Plain Man's Answer to his Country Parson's Admonition Together with the Missionaries Answer to the Plain Man's Reply To which the worthy Author of the Two first Treatises has lately replied under these Titles 4. A Defence of the Country Parson's Admonition 5. A Defence of the Plain Man's Reply And here I think this Controversie has ended If any Answer has been published to these last Papers It is more than I have yet seen or heard of and I believe there is none As for those separate Discourses that have come forth relating to this matter the Principal if not all are these that follow On the Part of the Church of England 1. The Pillar and Ground of Truth a Treatise shewing that the Roman Church falsly claims to be THAT Church and the Pillar of THAT Truth mentioned by S. Paul in 1 Tim III. 11 15. 2. A Discourse concerning a Judge of Controversies in matters of Religion 3. A Plain and Familiar Discourse by way of Dialogue betwixt a Minister and his Parishioner concerning the Catholic Church 4. Reasons why a Protestant should not turn Papist in a Letter to a Romish Priest 5. Monsieur Claude 's Conference with the Bishop of Meaux Of the Authority of the Church 6. An Historical Examination of the Authority of General Councils 7. Of the Authority of Councils and the Rule of Faith. 8. A Sermon on S. Mark 's Day by Dr. Patrick 9. Doubts concerning the Roman Infallibility 10. A Short Discourse concerning the Church's Authority in Matters of Faith. On the Church of Rome 's Side 1. A Peaceable Method for the re-uniting Protestants and
above p. 48. 10. Transubstantiation the peculiar Dictrine of the Church of Rome see p. 50. XIV Of the SACRIFICE of the MASS 1. A Discourse concerning the Sacrifice of the Mass XV. Of the ADORATION of the HOST 1. A Discourse of the Adoration of the Host XVI Of COMMUNION in BOTH KINDS 1. A Discourse of Communion in One Kind in Answer to the Bishop of Meaux 2. A Demonstration that the Church of Rome and her Councils have Erred touching Communion in One Kind XVII of the RULE c. of FAITH 1. A Discourse concerning a Guide in Matters of Faith. 2. The Protestant Resolution of Faith. 3. Of the Authority of Councils and of the Rule of Faith. XVIII Of the Holy SCRIPTURE 1. An Answer to the Request to Protestants 2. A Summary of the Principal Controversies betwixt the Church of England and the Church of Rome 3. The Lay-Christian's Obligation to read the Scripure 4. The Peoples Rights to read the Scripture 5. The Protestant and Popish way of Interpreting Scripture impartially compared in Answer to Pax Vobis See other Discourses above p. 38 39. XIX Of TRADITION Discourse about Tradition 2. An Historical Discvourse concerning Tradition 3. The Council of Trent examined and disproved by Catholic Tradition See more Discourses above p. 40 41 42. To which I must add an Excellent Treatise omitted in its proper place but which ought not by any means to be forgotten called 4. A Treatise of Traditions In 2 Parts XX. Of the CHURCH 1. A Discourse of the Unity of the Catholic Church maintained in the C. of E. 2. A Discourse of the Charge of Novelty brought against the Ch. of E. 3. The Notes of the Church See above p. 26. 4. Of the Unity and Authority of the Church See Discourses above p. 28. To which we must add a Book since published which ought by no means to be forgotten being as we are assured the Genuine Issue of the Great and Admired Bishop Sanderson It is called 5. A Discourse concerning the Church in these following Particulars 1. Concerning the Visibility of the True Church 2. Concerning the Church of Rome 3. Concerning Protestant Churches 4. An Answer to the Question Where was your Church before Luther 6. Of the Autority and Infallibility of the Church Several Discourses p. 29 30 31. 7. Two short Discourses against the Romanists by Mr. Dowell XXI Of St. PETER and the POPE 1. A Sermon Preach'd upon S. Peter's Day 2. The Catholic Balance 3. A Discourse of the Pope's Supremacy in two Parts To which we may add a Tract since Printed with this Title 4. Pope Gregory the Great his Opinion of the Supremacy of the Bishop of Rome taken from his own Writings See other Discourses above p. 32 33 34. XXII Of the REFORMATION 1. Two Discourses concerning the Necessity of the Reformation 2. An Answer to the Spirit of Martin Luther and the Original of the Reformation 3. Reflections on the Relation of the English Reformation Printed at Oxford See other Discourses above p. 35 36. XXIII Of SCHISM and HERESIE 1. A Vindication of the Church of England from the foul Aspersions of Schism and Heresie 2 Parts 2. An Apologetical Vindication of the Church of England c. See other Discourses above p. 35 36. XXIV Of the CELIBACY of the CLERGY 1. A Discourse of the Celibacy of the Clergy 2. An Answer to a Discourse concerning the Celibacy of the Clergy Printed at Oxford SECT XII And now after so full an Account of these Discourses and of the several Controversies that have been handled in them I have only remaining for the Close of all to give a short Account of that Excellent Undertaking in which our Divines are at this time engaged and which being finished I do not see what more can be desired in order to our full Satisfaction in this Matter I Have before recounted how by a joint Labour they run through the Consideration of the pretended Notes of the Church on which the Romanists establish their usurped Authority No sooner were those ended but they presently resolved upon another and a more useful Project which was to search into our Adversaries Books and collect all those Passages of Scripture which are usually alledged by them to maintain their Errors And by giving the true Explication of them at once to secure their Flock from their false Glosses and let them into a better understanding of those Sacred Books In this Undertaking they have already made a considerable Advance as will appear by the following Catalogue 1. POPERY not founded on SCRIPTURE Or The Texts which Papists cite out of the Bible for the Proof of the Points of THEIR RELIGION examined and shewed to be alledged without Ground After which follow the Texts themselves which they bring for 2. The Obscurity of the Holy Scriptures 3. The Insufficiency of Scripture and the Necessity of Tradition 4. The Supremacy of St. Peter and of the Pope over the whole Church in Two Parts 5. Their Doctrine of Infallibility 6. The Worship of Angels and Saints departed In Two Parts 7. The Worship of Images and Reliques 8. The Seven Sacraments and the Efficacy of them In Two Parts 9. The Sacrifice of the Mass Two Parts 10. Transubstantiation 11. Auricular Confession 12. Satisfactions Two Parts May they go on with Success to finish this Good Work whilst we for whose sake they take all these pains encourage their Endeavours by a firm adherence both to them and to their Doctrine and by our constant contending for the Faith we have received from them declare to all the World that their Labour has not been in Vain in the Lord. FINIS A Postscript of N. N. to Mr. John Sergeant occasion'd by his Letter to the Continuator of the Present State of the Controversie Mr. Sergeant Having perused your Letter to the Continuator of the Present State of our Controversie I perceive that you are mightily concern'd at the Historical Discourse concerning Tradition which he mentioned to be wirting and that you Letter to the Continuator c. p. 13. would gladly find some way to save our Friends this vast labour and excuse them from this Impossible Task of answering you I quickly apprehended your meaning that you had a great desire not to be answered and therefore in pure Complaisance to you the first time I met with the Author of the Historical Discourse I desired him in yours and my own Name that he would excuse himself the writing of that Book and told him That I understood by your Letter that you would take it extreamly kindly at his hands if he would not give himself the trouble of answering you But this Courship would do no good upon him so that I was forc'd to alter my strain and began to thereaten him Sir said I if you dare to answer Mr. Sergeant he will be reveng'd of you for he has a plaguy sharp Pen and will not spare you All the answer I had to my Threats was
Imprimatur Liber cui Titulus A Continuation of the Present State of the Controversie between the Church of England and the Church of Rome Junii 7. 1688. H. Maurice RR. in Christo P. D. Wilhelmo Archiep. Cant. a Sacr. A CONTINUATION OF THE Present State OF THE CONTROVERSY BETWEEN THE CHURCH of ENGLAND AND THE CHURCH OF ROME BEING A Full ACCOUNT of the BOOKS that have been of late Written on Both Sides The Second Edition LONDON Printed for Ric. Chiswell at the Rose and Crown in St. Paul's Church-yard MDCLXXXVIII TO THE VERY REVEREND and WORTHY THE AUTHORS OF THE DISCOURSES here Collected IN Defence of the Church of ENGLAND GENTLEMEN AFter so much Pains as you have taken and so much Good as by the Blessing of God on your Endeavours you have done to that Church of which I esteem it my happiness that I am a Member may it be permitted to a private and obscure hand to return you this small Tribute in acknowledgment of that Sense which not my self alone but I dare say every single person of our Communion has of what we all owe to your Learning and your Integrity I present you here with a short view of your own Labours or rather I offer to the World a small Collection of those Discourses you have written in Defence of our Religion And how unsuitable soever it may appear to usher a few Titles of Books into the World under the protection of so many great Names yet I am confident the Consequence of this Undertaking cannot but be as Honourable to you all as I heartily wish it may and as I am sure it ought to be When it shall be consider'd how vast a Number and of what acurate and learned Discourses is here comprised and for almost all which we are in the compass of about Three Years indebted to you It is indeed a matter of just wonder to all those who are acquainted with your method of living here how persons engaged not only in a laborious attendance on their Parochial Cures and a constant return of painful and acurate Preaching but almost utterly distracted with that multitude of other Business which in these last Years has taken up the greatest part of your time should yet find leisure to discharge all these and at the same time to adorn the Press with so many Books as might alone have seemed more than enough to have employ'd your whole Industry But blessed be God who has raised you up against such a time as this and given us so great an Earnest of his Favour to us that as we had never more need of Able and Honest and Firm Guides than at this day so I may venture to challenge any Age of the Church to shew such a Number of truly Learned and Pious and constant Pastors as the Church of England and especially this City do's now abound with May your Labours and your Examples always find such a success as they deserve and as they have of late met with amongst us And since we cannot now have any excuse for our Apostacy should we renounce our Holy Prosession after so much as you have done to convince even the most ignorant Persons amongst us of the Truth and Purity of it may we ever firmly adhere both to you and it That when we shall appear before the Great Bishop and Pastor of our Souls we may all of us give up our Accounts with joy This as it is my hearty Wish so I am perswaded it is the sincere Resolution of every one of those whom God has committed to your Care. And that in this Firmness we may be all of us established more and more shall be the continual Prayer of him who in all thankful Duty will ever remain GENTLEMEN Your Most Humble and Obedient Servant TO THE READER AS for those who shall please to peruse this Treatise I have but very little to premise to them They will here see an Exact Collection as far as I was able to make it of the Controversie on both sides between our Divines and those of the Church of Rome And in that the Victory of Truth over Error Never certainly was any Cause more entirely baffled than the Popish is at this time Never was a Controversie more fully handled and that in such a manner as to instruct even the meanest Capacities than This has been in these last years Insomuch that now there is scarce a person amongst us so ignorant that is not able to make a Stand against the rudest Attacques of our Adversaries Nay our very Footmen esteem themselves and I think have satisfied the World that they are not mistaken an equal match for Jesuits i. e. for those who would at least be thought the most able Men of their Party and dropt down from Heaven on purpose to oppose the Growth of Protestant Heresie What others may judg of this I cannot tell But for my part I cannot but from thence conclude That certainly the Hand of God is with us for Good. And that He who has given us this Opportunity to understand the Weaknesses and Deceits of our Enemies and endu'd us with so great and general a Resolution never upon any Account whatsoever to depart from our most Holy Religion will also crown all our future Endeavours with such a Success that the Generations to come shall rise up and call us Blessed When they shall see our Firmness and our Labours in the Lord and receive from our hands that pure and uncorrupted Truth which I am persuaded those excellent Treatises I here mention shall deliver down even to the very End of the World. THE CONTENTS THE Occasion and Design of this Continuation Page 1 The Whole Divided into II. Generals Page 2 FIRST PART Of the Cases against Popery begun in the late King's Time. ib. The Catalogue of them reduced to the following Heads 1. Preliminary Discourses Page 2 3 2. Of the Church Page 4 3. Of the Rule of Faith. Page 5 4. Of Particular Points ib. An Account of the Disputes that have arisen on the Occasion of the Discourse against Transubstantiation Page 8 SECOND PART Of the Discourses that have been publish'd in Defence of the Church of England since the Time of His Present Majesty With an Account of the Popish Treatises that occasioned them Page 9 These reduted to the several following Heads SECT I. Of the REPRESENTING Controversie The Papist Represented and Misrepresented Page 10 The Bishop of Condom's Exposition Page 12 Good Advice to the Pulpits Page 16 And the Disputes occasioned by these Treatises SECT II. Of the pretended Agreement between the Church of England and the Church of Rome Page 17 SECT III. Of the Disputes concerning the Holy EUCHARIST 1. Real Presence Page 19. 2. Communion in One kind Page 20 3. Transubstantiation Page 22 SECT IV. Of the Disputes concerning the CHURCH Page 25 1. Of the Notes of the Church Page 26 2. Of the Unity and Authority of the Church Page 27 3. Of
Catholics in Matters of Faith. Written in French by Monsieur Maimbourg 2. Seek and ye shall find or a search into the Grounds of Religion c. 3. Monsieur de Meaux 's Conference with Monsieur Claude concerning the Authority of the Church SECT V. To these Disputes concerning the Church I do not know any that I can so sitly subjoin as those which regard the pretended Priviledges and Authority of St. PETER and of the POPES as His Successors IT is now some time since an Eminent Person of the other Communion Dr. Godden began the Contest as to this matter in a Sermon Preach'd by him in the Queen Dowagers Chappel and called A Sermon of St. Of S. Peter and the Pope Peter preached before her Majesty the Queen Dowager June 29. 1686. In requital of this a very Learned Man of our Church set out a Sermon which he had occasionally Preach'd in his own Church the very same Day upon the same Text intituled A sermon Preach'd upon S. Peter 's Day Printed at the desire of some that heard it with some Enlargements by a Divine of the Church of England I will not say any thing more of these Two Discourses than this That whoso shall please to read them will find what is to be urged from that famous Text Thou art Peter c. on either side and when they compare them together may judg as they shall find the evidence of Truth to incline them But of this large Subject much more has been set forth and it shall suffice to give a very brief Account of it 1. The Catholick Ballance or a Discourse determining the Controversies concerning 1. The Tradition of Catholic Doctrines 2. The Primacy of S. Peter and the Bishop of Rome 3. The Subjection and Authority of the Church in a Christian State. 2. The Antiquity of the Protestant Religion with an Answer to Mr. Sclater 's Reasons and the Collections of Nobes Testium 3. A modest Enquiry Whether S. Peter were ever at Rome and Bishop of that Church 4. Sure and Honest Means for the Conversion of all Hereticks Of St. Peter and the Popes Supremacy and wholesome Advice and Expedients for the Reformation of the Church 5. Dialogues between Philerene and Philalethe These are I think the chief Discourses that have been Published by our Divines relating to the Prerogatives and Authority that some pretend to in behalf of St. Peter and the Bishops of Rome his Successors As for those which have been sent abroad on this Head by those of the Other Communion these are the Principal that have come to my Knowledg 1. St. Peter 's Supremacy faithfully discuss'd according to Holy Scripture and Greek and Latin Fathers By Mr. Clenche 2. The Popes Supremacy Asserted from the Considerations of some Protestants and the practice of the Primitive Church in a Dialogue between a Church-Divine and a Seeker In Vindication of Nubes Testium Concerning this last Discourse you must observe that it does belong to the Controversie about the Nubes Testium betwixt the Representer and the Divine of our Church who answered that Collection The Representer made a very faint defence of his Nubes against that Answer but gave it a good Title calling it The Primitive Fathers no Protestants To which Mr. G. shortly after replied in his Primitive Fathers no Papists after which that Controversie rested till the Representer peept out again with this Tract in defence of one point only of his Nubes Testium but whoever will take the pains to look into it will find that the Representer's Stock is quite spent and therefore he is forc'd to patch up these Learned Dialogues out of his own Nubes Testium and the Appendix with the addition only of a few bold strokes which F. Sabran would have call'd Calumnies about Dr. Sherlock c. So that this Book deserves no Answer at all however a very Learned Person of our Church having undertaken to answer Mr. Clcuche's Book and Dr. Godden's Sermon about the Pope's Supremacy hath condescended to consider this Tract also and the world will very speedily be obliged with a Compleat and Learned Answer to them all under this Title A Discourse of the Popes Supremacy in Two Parts The First In Answer to a Treatise Entitul'd Saint Peter's Supremacy faithfully discuss'd according to Holy Scripture and Greek and Latin Fathers And to a Sermon of St. Peter Preach'd before her Majesty the Queen Dowager on St. Peter and St. Paul 's day by Tho. Godden D. D. The Second In Answer to a Discourse Entitul'd The Pope's supremacy asserted from the Considerations of some Protestants and the Practice of the Primitive Church in Vindication of Nubes Testium SECT VI. Such have been the Treatises that have pass'd on both sides concerning the Popes Authority The next Point which seems to follow the nearest upon these and which indeed is chiefly founded on Arguments drawn from the Pretences before mention'd is that of our unwarrantableness in separating from the Church of Rome and Chair of St. Peter And concerning which much has been done on both sides AS for our Divines the Treatises they have publish'd in Vindication of our Reformation from the Charge of SCHISM and HERESIE have been these that follow 1. A Vindication of the Church of England from the foul aspersions of Schism and Heresie unjustly cast upon her by the Church of Rome In two Parts Of the Charge of Schism and Heresie 2. An Answer to a late Printed Paper given about by Some of the Church of Rome In a Letter to a Gentleman 3. An Answer to the Considerations which obliged Dean Manby to embrace what he calls the Catholic Religion 4. Notes upon Lucilla and Elizabeth 5. An Apologetical Vindication of the Church of England in Answer to those who reproach her with the English Heresies and Schisms or suspect her not to be a Catholic Church upon their account 6. A few plain reasons why a Protestant of the Church of England should not turn Roman Catholic 7. An Answer to the Spirit of M. Luther and the Original of the Reformation lately Printed at Oxford 8. Animadversions on Mr. W's Discourse of Church-Government In two Parts 9. Reflections on the relation of the English Reformation lately Printed at Oxford and on the Oxford Theses Two Parts 10. An Answer to a Book Intituled Reason and Authority or the Motives of a late Protestant's Reconciliation to the Catholic Church Together with a brief Account of Augustine the Monk and the Conversion of the English 11. The State of the Church of Rome when the Reformation began as it appears by the Advices given to Paul III. and Julius III. by Creatures of their Own. 12. The Queries offer'd by T. W. to the Protestants concerning the English Reformation Re-printed and Answer'd Nor have those of the Roman Communion been sparing in this Argument but have made this a Great Subject of Contention against us As will appear by the following Account 1. Lucilla and
Elizabeth or the Donatist and Protestant Schism Parallel'd 2. The Sum of a Conference had between two Divines of the Church of England and two Catholic Lay-Gentlemen in 1671. 3. The Church of England truly represented according to Dr. Heylin 's History of the Reformation 4. The Gonsiderations which obliged Peter Manby Dean of London-Derry to embrace the Roman Catholic Religion 5. Schelstrate his Dissertation against Dr. Stillingfleet concerning Patriarchal and Metropolitical Authority As to this Book since Mr. Schelstrate's Friends heve ventured to expose it in a Translation here the Reverend and Most Worthy Dean of Paul's will not fail if God continue him health and opportunity to give an Answer and I am sure the world will not be angry with me for raising their Expectations of the Dean's Answer since they are satisfied that he will make them sufficient amends for them 6. A discourse concerning the Spirit of Martin Luther and the Original of the Reformation 7. Church-Government Part V. A Relation of the English Reformation and the lawfulness thereof examined 8. Some Queries to Protestants concerning the English Reformation by T.W. 9. The Schism of the Church of England Demonstrated in Four Arguments formerly proposed to Dr. Gunning and Dr. Pearson the late Bishops of Ely and Chester by two Catholic Disputants in a celebrated Conference upon that Point This little Paper with a large Title was the other day Reprinted at Oxford by the Converts there The foul dealings and egregious disingenuity concerning that Conference as well as the weakness and falseness of its Arguments have been fully shewn in an Answer we have received just now from Cambridg from a Reverend Person who was particularly related to one of those abused Bishops The Title of his Answer is The Reformation of the Church of England justisied according to the Canons of the Council of Nice and other General Councils and the Tradition of the Catholic Church being an Answer to a Paper Re-printed at Oxford c. SECT VII And these are the chief Treatises that have been publish'd on these more General Points We come now to examine what has been done on the more particular Controversies And first we will begin with that which is the Ground of all The RULE of FAITH MAny have been the Debates concerning this both with relation to what we suppose to be the only Divine Rule viz. The HOLY SCRIPTUR Of the Rule of Faith. and with reference to that other which those of the Church of Rome have added to it viz. The TRADITION of the Church And 1. As to the Point of the HOLY SCRIPTURE these discourses have pass'd of late concerning it On the part of the Church of Rome 1. The Protestant's Plea for a Socinian justifying his Doctrine from being opposite to Scripture c. 2. Protestancy destitute of Scripture Proofs 3. A Request to Protestants to produce plain Scriptures directly Authorizing xvi Tenets held by them 4. The 6th 7th 8th 9th and 10th Chapters of the Second Part of the Catholic Representer 5. An Address to the Ministers of the Church of England 6. A Clear Proof of the Certainty and Usefulness of the Protestant Rule of Faith. 7. The Catholic Scripturist 8. Pax Vobix On the Protestant Part. 1. The difference betwixt the Protestant and Socinian Methods in Answer to a Book written by a Romanist and intituled The Protestant Plea for a Socinian 2. An Answer to the Request to protestants to produce plain Scriptures directly Authorizing their Tenets 3. A Summary of the Principal Controversies between the Church of England and the Church of Rome in Answer to Protestancy destitute of Scripture proofs 4. The Lay-Christians Obligation to read the Holy Scripture 5. The Peoples right to read the Holy Scripture asserted in Answer to the 6th 7th 8th 9th and 10th Chapters of the 2d part of the Popish Representer 6. A Treatise proving Scripture to be the Rule of Faith writ by Reginald Peacock Bishop of Chichester before the Reformation about the year 1450. 7. An Answer to the Address presented to the Ministers of the Church of England 8. A Vindication of the Answer to the Popish Address presented to the Ministers of the Church of England In reply to a Pamphlet abusively Intituled A Clear Proof of the Certainty and Usefulness of the Protestant Rule of Faith. 9. Some Dialogues between Mr. G. and others with Reflections on a Book called Pax Vobis To which I must add another and fuller Answer preparing to that same little Piece not yet Publish'd viz. 10. The Protestant and Popish way of Interpreting Scripture impartially compared in Answer to Pax Vobis 2. For what concerns the other Point TRADITION it has been the great Endeavour of some of late to set up once more the Infallibility of it But none with more Noise by an accident which I am now to recount than Mr. G. and the great Master of Controveesie and Patron of this new Hypothesis J. S. It happen'd about a year and half since that the forwardness of Mr. G. to engage in a Dispute wherein he was sure to have the disadvantage both in the Point and in the Person that was to manage it against him led him into a Conference with the Reverend and Learned the Dean of Pauls I need not say what passed there the whole haying since been published The Subject of the Debate was the Infallibility of Oral Tradition The Conference being over Mr. G. according to the perpetual Custom of the vain and assuming spirit of that Party began to make great Boasts in the Coffee-houses what Feats he had done and how great a Victory he had gained tho the Gentleman for whose sake the Conference was held declared himself much more confirmed in the Communion of our Church than he was before and resolved to continue in it This enforced the Dean to publish a short Expostulatory Letter called 1. A Letter to Mr. G. giving a true Account of a late Conference at the D. of P. In return to this Mr. M. who was with Mr. G. at the Conference returned a Letter or two to Dr. Stilling fleet concerning the Conference and these produced a second from the Dean of St. Pauls called 2. A second Letter to Mr. G. in Answer to two Letters lately Publish'd concerning the Conference at the D. of P. One of the Answers to the D. of P's first Letter was called 3. A Letter to the D. of P. in Answer to the Arguing part of his First Letter to Mr. G. To this a Person not yet concerned put in a Reply Intituled 4. A Letter to a Friend reflecting on some passages in a Letter to the D. of P. in Answer to the Arguing part of his first Letter to Mr. G. And here Mr. J.S. was thought fit to be entrusted with carrying on this weighty Controversie which he did in several Letters which he calls Catholic Letters in Answer to the former Letter to the second of the Dean's and to a Sermon which