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A33770 Theophilus and Philodoxus, or, Several conferences between two friends the one a true son of the Church of England, the other faln off to the Church of Rome, concerning 1. praier in an unknown tongue, 2. the half communion, 3. the worshipping of images, 4. the invocation of saints / by Gilbert Coles. Coles, Gilbert, 1617-1676. 1674 (1674) Wing C5085; ESTC R27900 233,018 224

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phil._n etc._n phil._n lib._n 4._o de_fw-fr euch._n c._n 26._o jus_fw-la laic●r_n ad_fw-la communicandum_fw-la à_fw-la sacerdot_n etc._n etc._n bellarmin_n show_v how_o this_o epistle_n of_o cyprian_a be_v a_o full_a confutation_n of_o your_o opinion_n that_o the_o church_n can_v withhold_v part_n of_o the_o sacrament_n from_o the_o people_n see_v she_o have_v power_n to_o exclude_v from_o the_o whole_a sacrament_n for_o cyprian_n write_v to_o cornelius_n for_o some_o indulgence_n for_o those_o who_o be_v exclude_v theoph._n do_v you_o believe_v his_o first_o position_n that_o the_o people_n right_a to_o the_o sacrament_n be_v give_v by_o the_o priest_n to_o they_o and_o by_o he_o may_v be_v take_v from_o they_o phil._n yes_o when_o they_o be_v criminal_n it_o may_v be_v withhold_v from_o they_o by_o the_o power_n of_o the_o priest_n and_o upon_o their_o repentance_n again_o be_v restore_v theoph._n so_o it_o be_v with_o the_o offend_a clergy_n as_o well_o as_o with_o the_o people_n upon_o some_o great_a offence_n they_o may_v be_v suspend_v from_o the_o sacrament_n and_o therefore_o why_o do_v he_o say_v the_o