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A67437 The history & vindication of the loyal formulary, or Irish remonstrance ... received by His Majesty anno 1661 ... in several treatises : with a true account and full discussion of the delusory Irish remonstrance and other papers framed and insisted on by the National Congregation at Dublin, anno 1666, and presented to ... the Duke of Ormond, but rejected by His Grace : to which are added three appendixes, whereof the last contains the Marquess of Ormond ... letter of the second of December, 1650 : in answer to both the declaration and excommunication of the bishops, &c. at Jamestown / the author, Father Peter Walsh ... Walsh, Peter, 1618?-1688.; Ormonde, James Butler, Duke of, 1610-1688. Articles of peace.; Rothe, David, 1573-1650. Queries concerning the lawfulnesse of the present cessation. 1673 (1673) Wing W634; ESTC R13539 1,444,938 1,122

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archbishop_n of_o canterbury_n under_o queen_n elizabeth_n you_o must_v not_o persuade_v yourself_o i_o do_v at_o all_o
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can_v be_v from_o their_o sole_a remonstrance_n take_v according_a to_o or_o in_o that_o sense_n of_o they_o declare_v and_o prove_v to_o be_v they_o in_o the_o former_a treatise_n pag._n 21._o the_o unreasonable_a obstinacy_n of_o the_o congregation_n as_o well_o in_o frame_v their_o say_a remonstrance_n as_o in_o apply_v their_o say_v three_o proposition_n both_o manifest_o and_o manifold_o appear_v 23._o first_o and_o second_o argument_n to_o prove_v this_o ib._n three_o argument_n which_o be_v ab_fw-la intrinseco_fw-la 24._o the_o say_v three_o sorbon_n proposition_n apply_v etc._n etc._n 25._o four_o several_a explication_n of_o the_o first_o of_o those_o three_o sorbon_n proposition_n and_o all_o those_o explication_n own_a by_o the_o chief_a divine_n of_o that_o congregation_n ib._n first_o exposition_n 25._o second_o and_o three_o 26._o the_o four_o and_o last_o 29._o exposition_n questionless_a even_o each_o or_o every_o of_o they_o able_a to_o ●●ict_v from_o any_o man_n this_o confession_n that_o for_o neither_o of_o both_o par●s_n or_o both_o together_o the_o first_o proposition_n add_v nothing_o at_o all_o to_o their_o remonstrance_n pag._n 30._o their_o second_o proposition_n liable_a to_o the_o same_o exception_n abstraction_n reservation_n equivocation_n and_o even_a distinction_n of_o the_o reduplicative_a and_o specificative_a sense_n ib._n their_o three_o proposition_n also_o how_o specious_a soever_o yet_o as_o from_o they_o be_v whole_o insignificant_a as_o be_v subject_a especial_o to_o the_o distinction_n of_o the_o reduplicative_a and_o specificative_a sense_n of_o fact_n and_o of_o right_a of_o humane_a or_o temporal_a and_o divine_a or_o spiritual_a yea_o of_o ordinary_a and_o extraordinary_a etc._n etc._n 31._o three_o argument_n in_o form_n 30._o proof_n that_o the_o three_o sorbon_n proposition_n both_o in_o themselves_o and_o as_o apply_v by_o the_o foresay_a congregation_n be_v liable_a rational_o to_o such_o construction_n 33._o four_o and_o five_o argument_n 34._o a_o evasion_n obviate_v 35._o the_o parisian_a censure_n of_o sanctarellus_n at_o length_n 35_o 36._o confirm_v by_o the_o seven_o other_o university_n of_o france_n 38._o in_o the_o four_o treatise_n contain_v answer_n to_o the_o reason_n why_o the_o congregation_n will_v not_o sign_n any_o of_o the_o three_o latter_a of_o the_o six_o sorbon_n declaration_n etc._n etc._n their_o title_n may_v not_o unground_o be_v turn_v to_o this_o other_o the_o jesuit_n reason_n unreasonable_a pag._n 39_o the_o three_o reject_a proposition_n or_o declaration_n 40._o the_o first_o paragraph_n of_o their_o paper_n of_o reason_n etc._n etc._n contain_v the_o first_o or_o rather_o only_o general_a reason_n allege_v by_o the_o congregation_n for_o reject_v they_o ib._n that_o general_a reason_n be_v in_o effect_n either_o the_o impertinency_n of_o all_o and_o each_o of_o the_o say_v four_o five_o and_o six_o of_o the_o six_o late_a sorbon_n declaration_n to_o assure_v 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&_o hoc_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la respectu_fw-la virorum_fw-la sed_fw-la foeminarum_fw-la addit_fw-la tamen_fw-la miranda_n hoc_fw-la respectu_fw-la foeminarum_fw-la nusquam_fw-la adhuc_fw-la concessum_fw-la quod_fw-la tamen_fw-la negate_fw-la d._n alvin_n c._n 3._o de_fw-la episcopis_fw-la abbatibus_fw-la &_o abbatissis_fw-la c._n 22._o &_o citat_fw-la multa_fw-la jura_fw-la ex_fw-la quibus_fw-la actu_fw-la conceditur_fw-la abbatissis_fw-la potestas_fw-la jurisdictionis_fw-la non_fw-la quidem_fw-la excommunicandi_fw-la per_fw-la se_fw-la sed_fw-la praecipiendi_fw-la suis_fw-la subditis_fw-la sacerdotibus_fw-la ut_fw-la excommunicent_fw-la rebel_n &_o contumace_n moniale_n &_o hoc_fw-la valere_fw-la vel_fw-la ex_fw-la jure_fw-la communi_fw-la vel_fw-la consuetudine_fw-la vel_fw-la saltem_fw-la ex_fw-la privilegio_fw-la vel_fw-la strictius_fw-la loquendo_fw-la dicendum_fw-la cum_fw-la laimanno_n lib._n 1._o 4._o laiman_n l._n 1._o tract_n 5._o p._n 1._o c._n 3._o n._n 3._o &_o 4._o 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potest_fw-la in_o laicis_fw-la subinde_fw-la residere_fw-la sicut_fw-la praesentatio_fw-la collatio_fw-la beneficiorum_fw-la punitio_fw-la temporalis_fw-la clericorum_fw-la &_o alia_fw-la id_fw-la genus_fw-la multa_fw-la ut_fw-la dixi_fw-la de_fw-la abbatissis_fw-la praecipue_fw-la ex_fw-la concessione_n ecclesia_fw-la vel_fw-la long_fw-mi consuetudine_fw-la praescripta_fw-la convenientibus_fw-la praelatis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la dixi_fw-la &_o merito_fw-la etiam_fw-la ex_fw-la consuetudine_fw-la quia_fw-la non_fw-la solum_fw-la concessio_fw-la 120._o innoc._n in_o c._n novit_fw-la etc._n etc._n salgado_n p._n 1._o c._n prael_n 3._o nu_fw-la 120._o sed_fw-la consuetudo_fw-la ipsa_fw-la tribuit_fw-la jurisdictionem_fw-la etiam_fw-la in_o spiritualibus_fw-la ut_fw-la docet_fw-la innocent_n in_o cap._n novit_n de_fw-fr judic_n &_o multi_fw-la praesertion_n quando_fw-la consuetudinis_fw-la exercitium_fw-la a_o tempore_fw-la immemoriali_fw-la probatur_fw-la ut_fw-la declarant_fw-la 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