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A53381 A sober discourse of the honest cavalier with the popish couranter wherein the author of the Dialogue between the Pope and fanatick vindicates himself to be an hearty lover of his prince and countrey : to which is annexed, A serious epistle to Hodge / by a person of quality. Onslow, Richard Onslow, Baron, 1654-1717. 1680 (1680) Wing O350; ESTC R21447 17,153 26

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A SOBER DISCOURSE OF THE Honest Cavalier WITH THE Popish Couranter WHEREIN The Author of the Dialogue between the Pope and Fanatick vindicates himself to be an hearty Lover of his Prince and Countrey TO WHICH Is Annexed a Serious Epistle to HODGE By a Person of Quality Principis Patriae scribere jussit Amor. LONDON Printed for Henry Brome at the Gun in St. Paul's Church-yard at the West-End 1680. A SOBER DISCOURSE OF THE Honest Cavalier c Cavalier HOld Sir so much for Trim-Tram though Papacy and Presbytery should depend upon your Moments you must stop till I have a perfect Account of your Popish Courant nay 't is in vain to dispute my Authority there is Liberty and Property in the case Come What News from Rome Couranter Well then if you must I will give you a faithful Report of the Contents of it The old Popish Dons are become meer Fumblers at Politicks and the Jesuite resolves to try the Juvenile Fry and the Apprentices were to have met together under the plausible Pretence of Rosting the Rump and there should have been provided Irish Sauce and the Lads were to have pulled down the Meeting-Houses ●nd let fly their Teuksbury Mustard-Balls and when Rapine had been rampant there should have been sung Te Papam laudamus at the Devil's Chappel Cav What still the old Cheat Is it impossible there should be a Plot but it must be a Popish one Is there no sort of men that have Art and Wickedness enough to Plot against the Government but only the Pope and the Jesuite And do you really fancy that these Youths at London designed any Service to the Old Gentleman at Rome I perceive you have a tender Veneration for Meeting-Houses Now for my part if I were to enter any of those Houses I would neither put off my Hat nor my Shoes for I believe it is no more holy Ground than that of Tyburn and the Howlings and Harangues of both places are much alike I am afraid this Expression should offend you but I assure you I have good Authority for the Resemblance for Alexander Bishop of Alexandria in his Epistle to Alexander another Catholick Bishop tells him That the Arrians had deserted the Communion of the Catholick Church 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 erecting to themselves Dens of Thieves and if the Meeting-Houses were to be pulled down I am confident it was no Popish Conspiracy for I have reason to believe that the Conventicles in London do the Jesuites as much Service as the Shrines of Diana did the Silver-Smiths at Ephesus and I am perswaded that the Pope would offer as much Money to prevent the Dilapidation of Meeting-Houses as the devout Members of the Church of England have given to repair the Ruines of St. Paul and if an Indulgence from the Pope would do as much Service in Heaven as an Indulgence to Fanaticks does the Pope on Earth we would send for more Advices from Rome than your Packet-ship brings us I am sure these Youths were never the Catechumeni of the Church of England for Popular and Tumultuary Reformations are not consistent with the quiet and obedient Principles of our Religion therefore I have a vehement suspition That the Juvenile Fry you speak of must be the spawn of the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 State or City-Troublers a Phrase that defines a Fanatick exactly only it is too long and too ancient for Philo-Judaeus in Flaccum so styled the Isidori a turbulent Faction in Alexandria and I am afraid that your Teuksbury Mustard-Balls would have flown over the Meeting-Houses and fallen directly upon Whitehall St. James's and some would have dropt upon Lambeth As for your Irish Sauce if there be such a Villany in the world as a Popish Plot in Ireland I have one reason more to believe that there is a Fanatick-Design in England for this was the former Method of Rebellion and you know we live in an Age that loves to act by Precedents and there is such a League and Covenant between the Pope and Fanatick that you never knew one begin a Plot but the other took the Advantage and did proceed by Consequence I cannot but censure your rude Expression of Te Papam landamus for besides your putting the Pope into the place of God it looks like a Fanatick Burlesque of that ancient and excellent Hymn of the Church Te Deum landamus But what other Intelligence does your Courant afford us Cour. O Sir The News of a Dialogue between the Pope and Fanatick such a Piece of Paper-Roguery as Cav Hold Be Civil for I am the man Cour. Then you are a Desperate Impudent Seditious Popish Kindle-Coal Pamphleteer Cav I never yet swallowed a Teuksbury-Mustard-Ball nor am I skilled in that Fanatick-Art of Spitting Fire My Religion hath taught me so much Generosity that I think the best return to Rallery is to make no Reply at all only I would not have you call me Desperate for I am far from Despair I do not think the King hath forgot his vexatious Traverses and hazardous Adventures between Worcester and Liege but thinks himself concerned to be as cautious of a Fanatick as he is of a Jesuite but if it were possible for the King to forget the History of his Father's Death and the Annals of his own Life I would not yet despair I believe there is a God who will not long suffer his Name to be abused by Canting Blasphemies and Fanatick Prostitutions And so much for your Raillery let me have an Account of those Crimes with which you charge me Cour. You would tempt those you call Fanaticks to assassinate his Sacred Majesty by remonstrating the Facility and Security of that Villany p. 4. Cav The Life of his Sacred Majesty is of more value to me than all the Fanatick-Blood of Europe and I am so far from suggesting his Assassination that I think since the Days of Daniel no People ever had more reason than we to salute their Prince with that Phrase of ancient Loyalty O King live for ever The Popish Plot being first discovered in a very nice Crisis of State was by some Designing Men inflamed with all the Arts and Aggravations imaginable with a purpose to serve the Fanatick-Interest and this Intrigue was so politickly managed and improved that the Factions grew rampant and the Church of England like the King was brought into the Plot for contriving their own Destruction and none allowed to be Protestants but the Presbyterians and none were thought Enemies to the Pope but his Friends in Conventicles Now I oft thought with horror That in that heat which the Truth of the Plot had occasioned and amidst those Artificial Smokes which cunning Men had raised to attend it a Fanatick had more advantage to destroy the King in that Juncture than a Jesuite and I believe we are more obliged to the Providence of God than the Conscience of those Men that the Mischief was not effected Now can you think that