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A29193 Castigations of Mr. Hobbes his last animadversions in the case concerning liberty and universal necessity wherein all his exceptions about that controversie are fully satisfied. Bramhall, John, 1594-1663. 1657 (1657) Wing B4214; ESTC R34272 289,829 584

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sovereign_a neither_o be_v he_o more_o orthodox_n concern_v the_o holy_a scripture_n hitherto_o that_o be_v for_o the_o book_n of_o moses_n the_o power_n of_o make_v the_o scripture_n 283._o canonical_a be_v in_o the_o civil_a sovereign_n the_o like_a he_o say_v of_o the_o old_a testament_n make_v canonical_a by_o esdras_n and_o of_o the_o new_a testament_n that_o it_o be_v not_o the_o apostle_n which_o make_v their_o own_o write_n canonical_a but_o every_o convert_v make_v they_o so_o to_o himself_o yet_o with_o this_o restriction_n that_o until_o the_o sovereign_a ruler_n have_v 284._o prescribe_v they_o they_o be_v but_o counsel_n and_o advise_v which_o whether_o good_a or_o bad_a he_o that_o be_v counsel_v might_n without_o injustice_n refuse_v to_o observe_v and_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o law_n establish_v can_v not_o without_o injustice_n observe_v he_o make_v the_o primitive_a christian_n to_o have_v be_v in_o a_o pretty_a condition_n certain_o the_o gospel_n be_v contrary_a 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