maintenance_n of_o you_o i_o will_v let_v you_o understand_v what_o i_o have_v read_v for_o this_o purpose_n not_o doubt_v but_o other_o which_o have_v read_v much_o more_o and_o see_v more_o ancient_a history_n than_o i_o can_v show_v you_o a_o great_a deal_n more_o i_o pass_v over_o as_o to_o well_o know_v how_o many_o of_o the_o grecian_a emperor_n resist_v the_o set_n up_o of_o image_n in_o so_o much_o that_o in_o the_o greek_a church_n to_o this_o day_n they_o can_v abide_v none_o in_o their_o temple_n likewise_o i_o pass_v over_o charles_n the_o great_a who_o write_v a_o book_n against_o image_n which_o be_v in_o print_n who_o also_o declare_v that_o he_o like_v not_o the_o heresy_n of_o the_o real_a presence_n and_o transubstantiation_n which_o in_o his_o time_n be_v in_o forge_v in_o that_o he_o call_v bertrame_v to_o declare_v his_o mind_n of_o that_o matter_n as_o appear_v by_o his_o book_n which_o be_v also_o in_o print_n i_o will_v not_o rehearse_v those_o prince_n that_o contrary_a to_o the_o pope_n law_n defend_v their_o priest_n that_o be_v marry_v for_o although_o these_o and_o such_o like_v defend_v some_o part_n of_o the_o truth_n which_o we_o hold_v against_o you_o yet_o lest_o you_o shall_v object_v it_o be_v but_o in_o some_o one_o or_o two_o point_n i_o pass_v they_o over_o with_o silence_n but_o wickleve_v i_o ween_v you_o will_v not_o deny_v but_o he_o be_v of_o our_o church_n and_o religion_n and_o i_o read_v that_o king_n edward_n the_o three_o both_o in_o his_o parliament_n hold_v anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 1371._o and_o at_o other_o time_n with_o diverse_a other_o noble_a man_n defend_v his_o cause_n in_o so_o much_o that_o so_o long_o as_o he_o live_v all_o the_o popish_a bishop_n can_v do_v he_o no_o harm_n yet_o do_v he_o open_o inveigh_v against_o the_o pope_n call_v he_o antichrist_n and_o all_o popish_a doctrine_n without_o any_o colour_n or_o dissimulation_n both_o in_o the_o university_n of_o oxeford_n where_o he_o be_v reader_n and_o also_o in_o his_o sermon_n abroad_o as_o appear_v by_o his_o book_n and_o english_a homily_n which_o yet_o be_v common_a to_o be_v see_v w_o unless_o he_o have_v be_v support_v and_o maintain_v by_o the_o king_n and_o other_o potentate_n can_v never_o have_v continue_v so_o long_o as_o he_o do_v further_o have_v you_o not_o hear_v of_o zisca_n and_o procopius_n two_o mighty_a captain_n which_o defend_v the_o bohemian_n from_o the_o tyranny_n both_o of_o the_o emperor_n the_o pope_n and_o almost_o all_o the_o prince_n of_o germany_n for_o what_o cause_n do_v paul_n the_o second_o anno_fw-la domini_fw-la 1466._o condemn_v george_n a_o noble_a and_o a_o worthy_a prince_n king_n of_o bohemia_n for_o a_o heretic_n and_o deprive_v he_o of_o his_o kingdom_n be_v it_o not_o for_o defend_v the_o protestant_n in_o his_o dominion_n thus_o you_o see_v that_o some_o prince_n and_o potentate_n have_v not_o only_o offer_v but_o have_v in_o deed_n take_v in_o hand_n to_o defend_v our_o church_n which_o you_o think_v unable_a to_o be_v show_v wherefore_o i_o challenge_v your_o promise_n you_o must_v recant_v the_o 11._o article_n be_v so_o confuse_v that_o it_o be_v hard_a to_o bring_v it_o into_o any_o certain_a number_a of_o demand_n 1_o again_o i_o require_v of_o the_o protestant_n to_o declare_v by_o good_a history_n or_o by_o reasonable_a likelihood_n when_o the_o true_a church_n as_o they_o count_n they_o decay_v i_o answer_v even_o in_o the_o apostle_n time_n there_o arise_v many_o heresy_n which_o do_v not_o a_o little_a trouble_n the_o church_n but_o immediate_o after_o the_o apostle_n time_n while_o the_o father_n of_o the_o church_n be_v earnest_o occupy_v in_o resist_v of_o horrible_a heresy_n by_o the_o craft_n of_o satan_n some_o error_n and_o abuse_n creep_v into_o the_o true_a church_n of_o christ_n which_o at_o the_o first_o because_o they_o be_v small_a and_o man_n occupy_v in_o great_a matter_n be_v either_o not_o espy_v or_o not_o regard_v as_o may_v be_v know_v by_o the_o write_n of_o justinus_n martyr_n and_o irenaeus_n two_o of_o the_o most_o ancient_a writer_n sense_n the_o apostle_n time_n justinus_n be_v in_o this_o error_n that_o he_o think_v that_o the_o angel_n lust_v after_o woman_n and_o therefore_o be_v turn_v into_o devil_n it_o seem_v also_o that_o the_o church_n in_o his_o time_n be_v in_o some_o error_n about_o second_o marriage_n and_o divorcement_n irenaeus_n affirm_v that_o our_o saviour_n christ_n live_v here_o 50._o year_n which_o he_o say_v be_v receive_v of_o they_o that_o hear_v it_o even_o of_o the_o apostle_n mouth_n also_o both_o he_o and_o papias_n which_o be_v before_o he_o and_o be_v the_o disciple_n of_o s._n john_n be_v charge_v by_o s._n jeronym_n in_o catalogo_fw-la script_n eccl_n to_o have_v hold_v this_o error_n that_o christ_n shall_v reign_v a_o thousand_o year_n after_o the_o resurrection_n here_o in_o the_o flesh_n whereby_o it_o be_v manifest_a see_v these_o ancient_a father_n and_o pillar_n of_o the_o church_n be_v thus_o stain_v with_o error_n that_o the_o church_n in_o their_o time_n can_v not_o be_v free_a from_o the_o same_o and_o so_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o true_a church_n decay_v immediate_o after_o the_o apostle_n time_n 2_o what_o year_n the_o religion_n of_o the_o papist_n come_v in_o and_o prevail_v although_o many_o abuse_n and_o corruption_n be_v enter_v into_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n immediate_o after_o the_o apostle_n time_n which_o the_o devil_n plant_v as_o a_o preparative_n for_o his_o elder_a son_n antichrist_n yet_o we_o may_v well_o say_v that_o the_o religion_n of_o the_o papist_n come_v in_o and_o prevail_v that_o year_n in_o which_o the_o pope_n first_o obtain_v his_o antichristian_a exaltation_n which_o be_v in_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n 607._o when_o boniface_n the_o three_o for_o a_o great_a sum_n of_o money_n obtain_v of_o phocas_n the_o traitorous_a murderer_n and_o adulterous_a emperor_n that_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n shall_v be_v call_v and_o count_v the_o head_n of_o all_o the_o church_n since_o that_o time_n that_o devilish_a heresy_n have_v always_o increase_v in_o error_n until_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n 1414._o in_o which_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n decree_v to_o rob_v the_o people_n of_o the_o sacrament_n of_o christ_n his_o blood_n from_o this_o time_n it_o have_v again_o decay_v be_v mighty_o subdue_v by_o the_o bright_a beam_n of_o the_o gospel_n shine_v in_o the_o world_n and_o at_o the_o length_n shall_v be_v utter_o destroy_v 3_o whether_o all_o their_o true_a church_n be_v so_o sound_o sleep_v that_o none_o can_v preach_v against_o it_o as_o it_o first_o enter_v when_o the_o come_n of_o antichrist_n be_v in_o all_o power_n of_o lie_a sign_n 24._o and_o wonder_n in_o so_o much_o that_o if_o it_o be_v possible_a the_o very_a elect_v shall_v be_v deceive_v and_o a_o general_a depart_n from_o the_o faith_n be_v foreshow_v and_o the_o church_n to_o be_v drive_v into_o the_o wilderness_n what_o marvel_n be_v it_o if_o none_o of_o our_o church_n can_v preach_v against_o it_o as_o it_o first_o enter_v yet_o because_o you_o speak_v of_o the_o first_o enter_v of_o popish_a religion_n which_o depend_v chief_o upon_o the_o pope_n authority_n you_o shall_v hear_v that_o when_o it_o first_o begin_v to_o advance_v itself_o there_o want_v not_o some_o either_o to_o preach_v or_o write_v against_o it_o when_o victor_n bishop_n of_o rome_n about_o the_o year_n of_o our_o lord_n 200._o pass_v the_o bond_n of_o his_o authority_n in_o excommunicate_v of_o all_o the_o church_n of_o asia_n many_o bishop_n withstand_v he_o and_o especial_o irenaeus_n bishop_n of_o lion_n and_o polycrates_n of_o ephesus_n as_o witness_v eusebius_n libro_fw-la 5._o cap._n 25._o eccle._n s._n cyprian_n also_o reprove_v cornelius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n for_o that_o he_o be_v move_v by_o threaten_v of_o heretic_n to_o receive_v their_o letter_n &_o do_v not_o send_v they_o back_o into_o africa_n to_o their_o own_o bishop_n lib._n 1._o ep._n 3._o also_o when_o stephanus_n bishop_n of_o rome_n be_v bold_a to_o communicate_v with_o basilides_n and_o martialis_n two_o spamard_n that_o be_v just_o excommunicate_v and_o depose_v by_o the_o bishop_n of_o their_o own_o province_n &_o seek_v to_o restore_v they_o cyprian_n and_o his_o fellow_n bishop_n of_o aphrica_n be_v require_v to_o give_v their_o advice_n give_v counsel_n that_o in_o no_o wise_a they_o shall_v be_v receive_v not_o a_o little_a blame_v stephanus_n that_o be_v far_o of_o and_o ignorant_a of_o their_o cause_n he_o will_v take_v upon_o he_o to_o defend_v such_o wicked_a man_n lib._n 1._o ep._n 4._o likewise_o when_o the_o same_o stephanus_n threaten_a excommunication_n to_o helenus_n and_o firmilianus_n and_o almost_o all_o the_o church_n
succession_n according_a to_o person_n or_o place_n you_o be_v never_o able_a to_o prove_v that_o any_o such_o thing_n be_v promise_v to_o the_o church_n that_o we_o shall_v show_v you_o the_o performance_n there_o of_o in_o our_o church_n otherwise_o we_o doubt_v not_o but_o god_n have_v always_o stir_v up_o some_o faithful_a teacher_n that_o have_v instruct_v his_o church_n in_o the_o necessary_a point_n of_o christian_a religion_n although_o the_o world_n and_o the_o church_n of_o antichrist_n do_v not_o always_o see_v they_o 2_o and_o be_v able_a to_o name_v you_o by_o the_o history_n of_o all_o age_n the_o notable_a person_n of_o all_o the_o foresaid_a state_n in_o their_o government_n and_o ministry_n a_o gain_n i_o answer_v you_o that_o you_o be_v not_o able_a to_o name_n i_o any_o text_n of_o scripture_n by_o which_o you_o can_v prove_v that_o all_o these_o office_n must_v have_v perpetual_a continuance_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n nor_o yet_o that_o any_o of_o they_o shall_v keep_v a_o ordinary_a succession_n of_o place_n or_o person_n but_o contrariwise_o see_v it_o be_v prophesy_v that_o the_o church_n shall_v fly_v into_o the_o wilderness_n that_o be_v be_v drive_v out_o of_o the_o sight_n and_o knowledge_n of_o the_o wicked_a and_o be_v so_o narrow_o persecute_v of_o the_o romish_a antichrist_n for_o a_o long_a season_n it_o be_v a_o token_n our_o church_n be_v not_o the_o true_a church_n if_o we_o can_v name_v such_o notable_a person_n as_o you_o speak_v of_o in_o all_o age_n flourish_v in_o their_o government_n and_o ministry_n and_o it_o be_v a_o good_a argument_n that_o the_o popish_a church_n be_v not_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n because_o it_o be_v never_o hide_v sense_n it_o first_o spring_v up_o in_o so_o much_o that_o you_o can_v name_v all_o the_o notable_a person_n in_o all_o age_n in_o their_o government_n and_o ministry_n and_o especial_o the_o succession_n of_o pope_n you_o can_v rehearse_v in_o order_n upon_o your_o finger_n in_o which_o beadroole_v nevertheless_o you_o must_v name_v many_o tyrant_n many_o traitor_n one_o whore_n many_o whoremonger_n many_o sodomite_n many_o murderer_n many_o poysenor_n many_o sorcerer_n and_o necromancer_n and_o from_o boniface_n the_o three_o all_o blasphemous_a heretic_n and_o antichristes_n but_o our_o church_n which_o have_v not_o have_v so_o many_o register_n chronicler_n and_o remembrancer_n have_v perhaps_o few_o but_o yet_o honest_a man_n to_o name_n we_o can_v name_n peter_n paul_n matthew_n john_n etc_n etc_n mark_v luke_n timothe_n agabus_n epaphras_n etc_n etc_n instinus_n irenaeus_n cyprianus_n athanasius_n hylarius_n ambrose_n augustinus_n etc_n etc_n gyldas_n bertramus_n marsilius_n de_fw-fr milan_n joan._n de_fw-fr ganduno_n bruno_n andagavensis_fw-la wickleve_n john_n hus_n hierome_n of_o prague_n etc_n etc_n with_o the_o first_o namely_o apostle_n evangelist_n and_o prophet_n we_o consent_v whole_o in_o all_o point_n of_o doctrine_n with_o the_o rest_n in_o the_o chief_a and_o most_o substantial_a article_n of_o faith_n always_o agree_v with_o any_o man_n so_o far_o as_o he_o agree_v with_o the_o word_n of_o god._n 3_o and_o if_o he_o can_v prove_v unto_o i_o that_o their_o church_n have_v never_o lack_v the_o same_o appoint_a officer_n or_o that_o any_o church_n or_o congregation_n but_o we_o have_v keep_v that_o charge_n they_o i_o recant_v for_o some_o of_o those_o officer_n i_o have_v twice_o answer_v before_o that_o they_o be_v not_o ordain_v to_o continue_v always_o with_o the_o church_n wherefore_o they_o be_v not_o to_o be_v exact_v of_o we_o but_o such_o officer_n as_o be_v necessary_a for_o the_o conservation_n of_o god_n his_o people_n in_o the_o unity_n of_o faith_n and_o the_o knowledge_n of_o christ_n our_o church_n have_v never_o lack_v although_o in_o time_n of_o the_o great_a defection_n and_o apostasy_n whereof_o s._n paul_n do_v prophesy_v 2._o thess._n 2._o there_o be_v but_o few_o as_o there_o be_v but_o few_o member_n of_o christ_n his_o church_n notwithstanding_o that_o through_o injury_n of_o the_o time_n the_o remembrance_n of_o all_o their_o name_n be_v not_o come_v unto_o we_o and_o although_o we_o can_v rehearse_v in_o order_n as_o many_o succession_n in_o our_o church_n as_o the_o papist_n boast_v of_o in_o they_o yet_o be_v that_o nothing_o to_o prove_v it_o to_o be_v the_o church_n of_o christ_n which_o must_v be_v try_v only_o by_o the_o scripture_n as_o s._n augustine_n say_v in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr unitate_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la against_o the_o donatist_n cap._n 16._o sed_fw-la utrum_fw-la ipsi_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la teneant_fw-la non_fw-la nisi_fw-la divinarum_fw-la scripturarum_fw-la canonicis_fw-la libris_fw-la ostendant_fw-la quia_fw-la nec_fw-la nos_fw-la propterea_fw-la dicimus_fw-la nobis_fw-la credere_fw-la oportere_fw-la quod_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la sumus_fw-la quia_fw-la ipsam_fw-la quam_fw-la tenemus_fw-la commendavit_fw-la milevitanus_fw-la optatus_n vel_fw-la mediolanensis_fw-la ambrose_n vel_fw-la alij_fw-la innumerabiles_fw-la nostrae_fw-la communionis_fw-la episcopi_fw-la etc_n etc_n but_o whether_o they_o hold_v the_o church_n or_o no_o let_v they_o show_v none_o otherwise_o but_o by_o the_o canonical_a book_n of_o holy_a scripture_n for_o we_o ourselves_o do_v not_o therefore_o say_v that_o man_n must_v believe_v we_o that_o we_o be_v in_o the_o church_n because_o we_o hold_v the_o same_o church_n which_o optatus_n of_o milevitum_n have_v commend_v or_o ambrose_n of_o millayn_n or_o innumerable_a bishop_n of_o our_o communion_n even_o so_o we_o require_v at_o the_o papist_n hand_n that_o show_v themselves_o to_o hold_v the_o church_n not_o by_o succession_n of_o bishop_n or_o rehearse_v of_o their_o name_n but_o only_o by_o the_o scripture_n for_o although_o we_o do_v rehearse_v innumerable_a name_n of_o bishop_n in_o orderly_a succession_n on_o our_o side_n we_o will_v not_o require_v man_n to_o believe_v we_o but_o only_o because_o we_o prove_v the_o doctrine_n of_o our_o church_n by_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o scripture_n but_o as_o for_o the_o popish_a church_n neither_o have_v nor_o ever_o have_v any_o of_o those_o officer_n which_o s._n paul_n speak_v of_o for_o apostle_n evangelist_n and_o prophet_n she_o can_v challenge_v by_o no_o reason_n see_v she_o refuse_v to_o be_v try_v by_o their_o doctrine_n utter_v in_o their_o write_n in_o steed_n of_o pastor_n &_o reacher_n she_o have_v wolf_n dumb_a dog_n or_o false_a prophet_n which_o either_o teach_v not_o at_o all_o or_o else_o teach_v the_o doctrine_n of_o devil_n &_o the_o dream_n of_o man_n and_o further_o i_o will_v desire_v none_o other_o place_n in_o all_o the_o scripture_n to_o overthrow_v the_o popish_a hierarchy_n which_o be_v the_o great_a glory_n of_o their_o church_n than_o this_o place_n of_o paul_n ephes_n 4._o he_o speak_v of_o apostle_n evangelist_n prophet_n pastor_n and_o teacher_n but_o where_o be_v pope_n cardinal_n popish_a archbishop_n bishop_n priest_n deacon_n subdeacons_n exorcist_n cantor_n acolyt_n ostiares_n monk_n friar_n canon_n nun_n etc_n etc_n wherefore_o i_o conclude_v that_o all_o these_o popish_a order_n be_v no_o office_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n and_o especial_o see_v the_o apostle_n both_o in_o this_o place_n eph._n 4._o and_o 1._o cor._n 12._o by_o these_o office_n prove_v the_o unity_n of_o mind_n he_o acknowledge_v no_o pope_n as_o one_o supreme_a head_n in_o earth_n which_o may_v be_v very_o profitable_a as_o the_o papist_n lie_v to_o maintain_v this_o unity_n for_o if_o there_o have_v be_v any_o such_o office_n appoint_v of_o god_n s._n paul_n in_o no_o wise_a will_v have_v omit_v it_o especial_o when_o it_o make_v so_o notable_o for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o his_o purpose_n which_o be_v unity_n to_o conclude_v if_o it_o be_v sufficient_a or_o any_o thing_n worth_a to_o rehearse_v the_o name_n of_o they_o that_o have_v orderly_a succeed_v in_o all_o age_n in_o the_o bishop_n see_v in_o a_o outward_a face_n of_o the_o church_n the_o greek_a church_n be_v able_a to_o name_n as_o many_o as_o the_o latin_a church_n and_o in_o as_o orderly_a succession_n wherefore_o if_o you_o be_v as_o ready_a to_o perform_v as_o to_o promise_v you_o recant_v the_o nine_o article_n may_v be_v divide_v into_o nine_o demand_n 1_o and_o for_o the_o necessary_a use_n and_o execution_n of_o the_o foresay_a office_n they_o must_v further_o be_v ask_v what_o sacrament_n the_o protestant_n minister_v for_o the_o space_n of_o a_o thousand_o year_n together_o in_o which_o they_o confess_v their_o congregation_n to_o have_v be_v near_o or_o else_o whole_o hide_v they_o minister_v those_o sacrament_n which_o christ_n do_v institute_v namely_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n and_o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n at_o such_o time_n as_o the_o cruel_a tyranny_n of_o you_o papist_n do_v not_o hinder_v they_o to_o come_v together_o for_o such_o purpose_n 2_o what_o correction_n they_o keep_v and_o discipline_n
true_a church_n better_o than_o the_o honourable_a name_n of_o catholic_a or_o more_o condemn_v they_o to_o be_v out_o of_o christ_n church_n than_o that_o not_o only_o the_o christian_a world_n give_v it_o not_o to_o they_o but_o they_o in_o a_o name_n do_v refuse_v the_o same_o themselves_o then_o do_v i_o recant_v here_o you_o bewray_v yourself_o evident_o and_o acknowledge_v that_o we_o do_v not_o slander_v you_o when_o we_o say_v you_o boast_v only_o of_o the_o catholic_a church_n for_o you_o declare_v plain_o that_o you_o have_v no_o better_a argument_n than_o the_o very_a name_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n to_o prove_v that_o you_o be_v the_o catholic_a church_n if_o this_o be_v the_o best_a argument_n all_o the_o rest_n be_v little_a worth_n for_o if_o the_o only_a name_n of_o a_o honest_a man_n be_v enough_o to_o prove_v a_o honest_a man_n many_o a_o knave_n may_v prove_v himself_o a_o honest_a man_n and_o if_o the_o very_a name_n of_o learning_n make_v a_o learned_a man_n many_o a_o ass_n may_v prove_v himself_o to_o be_v a_o learned_a man_n or_o if_o the_o name_n of_o a_o good_a christian_a prove_v a_o man_n to_o be_v a_o good_a christian_a every_o hypocrite_n may_v prove_v himself_o a_o good_a christian_n likewise_o if_o you_o have_v no_o great_a argument_n that_o can_v more_o condemn_v we_o then_o that_o we_o be_v not_o call_v the_o catholic_a church_n then_o can_v you_o no_o more_o condemn_v we_o than_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n that_o be_v not_o only_o not_o call_v the_o true_a church_n but_o also_o be_v call_v heretic_n &_o deceiver_n by_o the_o people_n of_o the_o jew_n which_o be_v as_o right_o call_v god_n his_o people_n as_o they_o that_o give_v you_o the_o name_n of_o catholic_a church_n be_v call_v the_o christian_a world_n it_o be_v well_o you_o have_v nothing_o better_a to_o prove_v your_o church_n than_o the_o honourable_a name_n of_o catholic_a nor_o any_o thing_n more_o to_o condemn_v our_o church_n then_o that_o we_o be_v not_o call_v catholic_a and_o yet_o we_o have_v as_o many_o nation_n and_o more_o than_o you_o have_v that_o by_o public_a authority_n call_v we_o catholic_n and_o you_o heretic_n although_o you_o must_v shameful_o slander_v we_o that_o we_o do_v refuse_v the_o name_n be_v offer_v unto_o we_o see_v you_o boast_v so_o much_o of_o the_o name_n catholic_a you_o shall_v hear_v what_o some_o of_o the_o old_a writer_n judge_v thereof_o chrysostome_n in_o a_o homely_a that_o he_o write_v of_o adam_n and_o eve_n in_o the_o late_a end_n have_v these_o word_n after_o he_o have_v tell_v they_o that_o he_o have_v no_o need_n to_o repeat_v such_o deep_a question_n as_o those_o man_n have_v handle_v which_o have_v fight_v against_o heretic_n satis_fw-la sufficere_fw-la credimus_fw-la quicquid_fw-la secundum_fw-la praedictas_fw-la regulas_fw-la apostolica_fw-la scripta_fw-la nos_fw-la docuerunt_fw-la ut_fw-la prorsus_fw-la opinemur_fw-la catholicum_fw-la quod_fw-la apparuerit_fw-la praefixis_fw-la sententijs_fw-la esse_fw-la contrarium_fw-la that_o be_v we_o believe_v that_o what_o so_o ever_o the_o apostle_n have_v teach_v we_o according_a to_o the_o foresay_a rule_n be_v sufficient_a in_o so_o much_o that_o in_o no_o wise_a we_o think_v that_o to_o be_v catholic_a which_o shall_v appear_v to_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o sentence_n before_o determine_v by_o this_o you_o may_v see_v that_o chrysostome_n think_v it_o not_o sufficient_a to_o have_v the_o name_n of_o catholic_a for_o he_o judge_v nothing_o to_o be_v catholic_a in_o deed_n that_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o rule_n ground_v in_o the_o write_n of_o the_o apostle_n wherefore_o how_o so_o ever_o you_o boast_v of_o the_o honourable_a name_n of_o catholic_a except_o you_o can_v prove_v that_o your_o opinion_n agree_v with_o the_o scripture_n they_o be_v not_o catholic_a in_o deed_n by_o chrysostom_n judgement_n s._n augustine_n also_o in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr genese_n ad_fw-la literam_fw-la imperfecto_fw-la cap._n 1._o speak_v of_o the_o catholic_a faith_n say_v this_o be_v a_o article_n thereof_o that_o we_o shall_v believe_v constitutam_fw-la ab_fw-la eo_fw-la matrem_fw-la ecclesiam_fw-la quae_fw-la catholica_fw-la dicitur_fw-la ex_fw-la eo_fw-la quia_fw-la universaliter_fw-la perfecta_fw-la est_fw-la &_o in_o nullo_n claudicat_fw-la &_o per_fw-la totum_fw-la orbem_fw-la diffusa_fw-la est_fw-la that_o he_o have_v appoint_v a_o mother_n church_n which_o be_v call_v catholic_a of_o this_o because_o it_o be_v universal_o perfect_a &_o halt_v in_o nothing_o and_o be_v disperse_v over_o all_o the_o world_n s._n augustine_n here_o be_v not_o content_a that_o the_o church_n be_v only_o call_v catholic_a but_o show_v when_o it_o be_v that_o which_o it_o be_v call_v and_o therefore_o the_o popish_a church_n not_o be_v universal_o perfect_a as_o most_o papist_n will_v confess_v that_o many_o thing_n in_o their_o church_n have_v need_n of_o reformation_n &_o halt_v in_o many_o thing_n from_o the_o truth_n of_o god_n his_o word_n neither_o yet_o be_v disperse_v over_o all_o the_o world_n but_o contain_v in_o a_o corner_n of_o europa_n be_v not_o by_o s._n augustine_n rule_n the_o catholic_a church_n furthermore_o s._n augustine_n contra_fw-la epistolam_fw-la fundamenti_fw-la cap._n 4._o against_o the_o manichee_n plain_o declare_v how_o far_o forth_o not_o only_o the_o name_n of_o catholic_a but_o also_o how_o far_o universal_o consent_n succession_n antiquity_n be_v to_o be_v allow_v ut_fw-la ergo_fw-la hanc_fw-la omittam_fw-la sapientiam_fw-la etc_n etc_n therefore_o to_o omit_v this_o wisdom_n which_o you_o do_v believe_v to_o be_v in_o the_o catholic_a church_n there_o be_v many_o other_o thing_n which_o may_v hold_v i_o most_o righteous_o in_o her_o bosom_n the_o consent_n of_o people_n and_o nation_n hold_v i_o the_o authority_n begin_v with_o miracle_n nourish_v with_o hope_n increase_v with_o charity_n confirm_v by_o antiquity_n do_v hold_v i_o the_o succession_n of_o priest_n from_o the_o very_a seat_n of_o peter_n the_o apostle_n unto_o who_o our_o lord_n after_o his_o resurrection_n commit_v his_o sheep_n to_o be_v feed_v even_o unto_o this_o present_a bishopric_n do_v hold_v i_o last_o of_o all_o that_o very_a name_n of_o catholic_a do_v hold_v i_o which_o name_n not_o without_o a_o cause_n this_o church_n alone_o have_v so_o obtain_v among_o so_o many_o heresy_n that_o whereas_o all_o heretic_n will_v be_v call_v catholic_n yet_o when_o a_o stranger_n shall_v ask_v where_o man_n meet_v at_o the_o catholic_a church_n none_o of_o the_o heretic_n dare_v show_v he_o either_o their_o principal_a temple_n or_o house_n all_o this_o you_o will_v say_v make_v exceed_v much_o for_o we_o yea_o but_o hear_v that_o which_o follow_v apud_fw-la vos_fw-la autem_fw-la ubi_fw-la nihil_fw-la horum_fw-la est_fw-la quod_fw-la i_o invitet_fw-la ac_fw-la teneat_fw-la sola_fw-la personat_fw-la veritatis_fw-la pollicitatio_fw-la quae_fw-la quidem_fw-la si_fw-la tam_fw-la manifesta_fw-la monstratur_fw-la ut_fw-la in_o dubium_fw-la venire_fw-la non_fw-la possit_fw-la proponenda_fw-la est_fw-la omnibus_fw-la illis_fw-la rebus_fw-la quibus_fw-la in_o catholica_fw-la teneor_fw-la that_o be_v but_o among_o you_o where_o there_o be_v none_o of_o these_o thing_n that_o may_v provoke_v or_o hold_v i_o there_o sound_v the_o only_a promise_n of_o truth_n which_o if_o it_o be_v show_v so_o manifest_a that_o it_o can_v not_o come_v in_o doubt_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v before_o all_o those_o thing_n by_o which_o i_o be_o hold_v in_o a_o catholic_a church_n by_o this_o you_o may_v plain_o see_v that_o though_o consent_n antiquity_n succession_n and_o the_o name_n of_o catholic_a be_v good_a confirmation_n when_o they_o be_v join_v with_o the_o truth_n yet_o when_o a_o truth_n be_v sever_v from_o they_o it_o be_v more_o to_o be_v regard_v than_o they_o all_o &_o it_o be_v truth_n that_o make_v catholic_a to_o be_v esteem_v and_o not_o catholic_a that_o give_v authority_n to_o truth_n wherefore_o see_v it_o be_v better_a to_o prove_v your_o church_n to_o be_v catholic_a then_o to_o boast_v that_o it_o be_v so_o call_v &_o to_o disprove_v our_o church_n so_o to_o be_v then_o to_o say_v it_o be_v not_o so_o call_v the_o best_a way_n for_o you_o be_v to_o recant_v the_o 21._o article_n contain_v but_o one_o demand_n 1_o moreover_o i_o ask_v of_o the_o protestant_n whether_o in_o that_o time_n in_o which_o they_o hold_v the_o true_a church_n to_o have_v be_v hide_v or_o lose_v the_o people_n that_o learn_v this_o article_n of_o their_o creed_n i_o believe_v the_o catholic_a church_n be_v bind_v to_o go_v from_o that_o church_n which_o they_o see_v and_o teach_v they_o both_o the_o article_n and_o all_o other_o thing_n touch_v their_o faith_n and_o by_o which_o they_o be_v christen_v and_o receive_v all_o other_o sacrament_n and_o commodity_n of_o salvation_n whether_o they_o be_v bind_v i_o say_v to_o believe_v this_o unknown_a and_o close_a congregation_n which_o they_o can_v
he_o part_v of_o his_o substance_n and_o keep_v part_n unto_o himself_o when_o as_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o father_n be_v indivisible_a etc_n etc_n go_v your_o way_n now_o and_o persuade_v we_o that_o your_o church_n can_v not_o interpret_v any_o sentence_n of_o the_o scripture_n false_o when_o the_o laterane_n council_n which_o be_v your_o represent_a church_n have_v thus_o both_o falsify_v and_o false_o interpret_v this_o scripture_n persuade_v man_n that_o they_o may_v safe_o lean_v to_o the_o interpretation_n of_o your_o church_n when_o among_o a_o thousand_o and_o three_o hundred_o prelate_n gather_v canonical_o in_o a_o council_n not_o one_o be_v find_v that_o can_v espy_v such_o gross_a abuse_n of_o the_o word_n of_o god_n but_o let_v it_o pass_v in_o a_o canon_n under_o the_o name_n of_o the_o whole_a council_n persuade_v man_n that_o in_o all_o controversy_n &_o condemn_v of_o error_n they_o must_v be_v rule_v by_o the_o determination_n of_o your_o church_n when_o the_o father_n of_o the_o laterane_n council_n can_v not_o confute_v the_o error_n of_o joachim_n abbot_n concern_v the_o divinity_n of_o christ_n but_o by_o falsify_v and_o false_a interpret_n of_o scripture_n these_o few_o example_n of_o a_o infinite_a number_a i_o have_v set_v forth_o because_o they_o be_v sufficient_a both_o to_o satisfy_v your_o challenge_n and_o to_o persuade_v the_o simple_a that_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n may_v false_o interpret_v the_o scripture_n which_o you_o will_v bear_v they_o in_o hand_n be_v impossible_a 3_o or_o induce_v any_o error_n among_o the_o people_n the_o true_a and_o only_a church_n of_o god_n be_v so_o guide_v by_o god_n his_o spirit_n and_o direct_v by_o his_o word_n that_o she_o can_v not_o induce_v any_o damnable_a error_n to_o continue_v yet_o as_o it_o be_v declare_v before_o she_o have_v no_o such_o privilege_n grant_v but_o that_o she_o may_v be_v deceive_v in_o some_o thing_n for_o her_o knowledge_n be_v unperfect_a and_o her_o prophesy_v be_v unperfect_a 1._o cor._n 13._o and_o it_o be_v true_a that_o s._n augustine_n say_v even_o the_o whole_a church_n be_v teach_v to_o say_v forgive_v we_o our_o trespass_n and_o if_o general_a counsel_n be_v the_o church_n represent_v as_o you_o papist_n do_v teach_v s._n augustine_n plain_o affirm_v that_o they_o may_v err_v de_n baptismo_fw-la contra_fw-la donatistas_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 2._o quis_fw-la autem_fw-la nesciat_fw-la sanctam_fw-la scripturam_fw-la canonicam_fw-la tam_fw-la veteris_fw-la quam_fw-la novi_fw-la testamenti_fw-la etc_n etc_n and_o who_o know_v not_o that_o the_o holy_a canonical_a scripture_n as_o well_o of_o the_o old_a as_o of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v contain_v within_o her_o certain_a bound_n and_o that_o it_o be_v so_o prefer_v before_o all_o late_a write_n of_o bishop_n that_o of_o it_o no_o man_n may_v in_o any_o wise_a doubt_n or_o dispute_v whether_o it_o be_v true_a or_o whether_o it_o be_v right_a what_o so_o ever_o be_v know_v to_o be_v write_v therein_o and_o that_o the_o write_n of_o bishop_n which_o have_v be_v write_v or_o be_v now_o in_o write_n may_v be_v reprehend_v if_o they_o have_v go_v astray_o any_o thing_n from_o the_o truth_n both_o by_o the_o say_n that_o be_v perhaps_o more_o wise_a of_o any_o man_n that_o be_v more_o skilful_a in_o that_o matter_n and_o by_o the_o more_o grave_a authority_n and_o wisdom_n of_o other_o better_a learned_a bishop_n and_o also_o by_o counsel_n and_o that_o even_o those_o counsel_n which_o be_v gather_v in_o every_o region_n or_o province_n aught_o to_o geve_v place_n without_o all_o doubt_n to_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o general_a counsel_n which_o be_v gather_v out_o of_o all_o the_o christian_a world_n and_o that_o even_o the_o very_a general_a counsel_n may_v often_o be_v amend_v the_o former_a by_o the_o late_a when_o as_o by_o any_o trial_n of_o thing_n that_o be_v open_v which_o before_o be_v shut_v and_o that_o be_v know_v which_o before_o be_v hide_v without_o any_o swell_n of_o wicked_a pride_n without_o any_o stubbornness_n of_o arrogance_n without_o any_o contention_n of_o peevish_a envy_n with_o holy_a humility_n with_o catholic_a peace_n with_o christian_a charity_n thus_o far_o s._n augustine_n which_o clear_o affirm_v that_o general_a counsel_n may_v often_o err_v which_o may_v often_o be_v amend_v but_o that_o the_o authority_n of_o god_n his_o word_n be_v to_o be_v prefer_v before_o the_o write_n of_o all_o doctor_n and_o decree_n of_o all_o counsel_n and_o that_o it_o only_o can_v not_o err_v the_o council_n of_o carthage_n the_o 3._o ca._n 23._o determine_v that_o all_o prayer_n at_o the_o altar_n shall_v be_v direct_v only_o to_o the_o father_n and_o not_o to_o the_o son_n or_o the_o holy_a ghost_n whether_o this_o be_v a_o error_n to_o define_v that_o it_o be_v unlawful_a to_o pray_v to_o god_n the_o son_n and_o god_n the_o holy_a ghost_n let_v every_o man_n judge_v but_o you_o will_v except_v that_o this_o be_v a_o provincial_a synod_n and_o not_o a_o general_a council_n but_o i_o answer_v you_o it_o have_v the_o authority_n of_o a_o general_a council_n because_o it_o be_v confirm_v in_o the_o six_o general_a council_n hold_v at_o constantinople_n in_o trullo_n and_o as_o for_o the_o popish_a church_n that_o it_o may_v err_v what_o need_v we_o better_a proof_n than_o the_o prayer_n which_o it_o make_v after_o the_o end_n of_o every_o general_a council_n precamur_fw-la scilicet_fw-la ut_fw-la ignorantiae_fw-la parcas_fw-la &_o errori_fw-la indulgeas_fw-la that_o be_v we_o pray_v true_o that_o thou_o will_v spare_v our_o ignorance_n &_o pardon_v our_o error_n and_o again_o et_fw-la quia_fw-la conscientia_fw-la remordente_fw-la tabescimus_fw-la ne_fw-la aut_fw-la ignorantia_fw-la nos_fw-la traxerit_fw-la in_o errorem_fw-la aut_fw-la praeceps_fw-la forsitan_fw-la voluntas_fw-la impulerit_fw-la a_o justitia_fw-la declinare_fw-la ob_fw-la hoc_fw-la te_fw-la poscimus_fw-la te_fw-la rogamus_fw-la ut_fw-la si_fw-la quid_fw-la offensionis_fw-la in_o hac_fw-la concilij_fw-la celebritate_fw-la attraximus_fw-la condonare_fw-la &_o remissibile_fw-la facere_fw-la digneris_fw-la that_o be_v and_o because_o we_o be_v grieve_v with_o remorse_n of_o conscience_n lest_o either_o ignorance_n have_v draw_v we_o into_o error_n or_o perhaps_o rash_a will_n have_v drive_v we_o to_o decline_v from_o justice_n therefore_o we_o pray_v thou_o we_o beseech_v thou_o that_o if_o we_o have_v draw_v unto_o we_o any_o offence_n in_o the_o celebration_n of_o this_o council_n thou_o will_v vouch_v safe_a to_o pardon_v and_o to_o make_v it_o remissible_a etc_n etc_n if_o it_o be_v impossible_a for_o the_o general_a council_n to_o err_v what_o need_v they_o pray_v to_o god_n to_o pardon_v their_o error_n and_o when_o their_o own_o conscience_n condemn_v they_o and_o compel_v they_o to_o confess_v and_o that_o before_o god_n that_o they_o may_v err_v what_o impudence_n be_v it_o in_o any_o man_n to_o contend_v that_o they_o can_v not_o err_v furthermore_o the_o second_o council_n of_o nice_a determine_v that_o angel_n and_o soul_n of_o man_n have_v body_n be_v visible_a and_o circumscriptible_a and_o therefore_o may_v be_v paint_v and_o this_o it_o affirm_v to_o be_v the_o judgement_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n con._n nice_n 2._o actione_fw-la 5._o if_o this_o be_v not_o to_o induce_v a_o error_n to_o make_v man_n believe_v that_o angel_n and_o spirit_n have_v body_n visible_a and_o circumscriptible_a there_o be_v never_o any_o error_n sense_n the_o world_n begin_v final_o when_o they_o say_v the_o pope_n can_v not_o err_v they_o acknowledge_v that_o such_o general_a counsel_n as_o condemn_a pope_n for_o heretic_n do_v err_v as_o the_o six_o general_a council_n of_o constantinople_n in_o trullo_n which_o condemn_v and_o accurse_a pope_n honorius_n for_o a_o heretic_n actione_fw-la 13._o even_o as_o pope_n leo_n the_o 2._o do_v also_o as_o appear_v in_o his_o epistle_n to_o the_o emperor_n constantine_n also_o the_o council_n of_o constance_n do_v err_v which_o condemn_v pope_n john_n the_o 23._o for_o deny_v the_o immortality_n of_o the_o soul_n and_o the_o resurrection_n of_o the_o body_n session_n 11._o which_o council_n pope_n john_n himself_o affirm_v to_o be_v most_o holy_a and_o that_o it_o can_v not_o err_v session_n 12._o and_o the_o council_n of_o basile_n do_v err_v which_o depose_v pope_n eugenius_n the_o 4._o session_n 34._o the_o same_o council_n be_v confirm_v by_o pope_n nicolas_n the_o 5._o session_n 43._o if_o you_o say_v these_o two_o last_o counsel_n do_v not_o err_v in_o condemn_v and_o depose_v these_o pope_n then_o the_o great_a general_n and_o ecumenical_a council_n of_o ferraria_n and_o florence_n do_v err_v in_o disallow_v the_o determination_n of_o these_o counsel_n thus_o it_o be_v manifest_a that_o the_o romish_a church_n which_o they_o themselves_o confess_v to_o be_v represent_v in_o a_o general_a council_n may_v err_v which_o have_v so_o often_o