Selected quad for the lemma: authority_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
authority_n	bishop_n	pope_n	prove_v	2,215	5	6.3488	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A07935	The Bishop of London his legacy. Or certaine motiues of D. King, late Bishop of London, for his change of religion, and dying in the Catholike, and Roman Church VVith a conclusion to his bretheren, the LL. Bishops of England.	Musket, George, 1583-1645.	1623 (1623)	STC 18305; ESTC S102862	100,153	188

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duraeum_n pag._n 480._o with_o the_o first_o institute_v of_o the_o fast_o of_o lent_n be_v in_o his_o time_n negligent_o observe_v the_o doctrine_n of_o which_o fast_o be_v so_o ancient_a that_o 89._o that_o exam_n coucil_n try_v part_n ●_o pag._n 89._o kemnitius_n thus_o write_v hereof_o ambrose_n maximus_n taurinensis_n theophilus_n jerome_n and_o other_o do_v affirm_v the_o fast_a of_o lent_n to_o be_v a_o apostolical_a tradition_n now_o the_o collusion_n here_o use_v in_o these_o example_n rest_v in_o a_o wilful_a confound_v of_o the_o first_o institution_n of_o a_o thing_n with_o a_o renovation_n of_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o say_a thing_n again_o we_o sometime_o object_v thereby_o to_o intimate_v a_o uncertainty_n of_o catholic_a religion_n some_o canon_n or_o sentence_n decree_v afore_o by_o a_o lawful_a council_n and_o true_a pope_n and_o after_o impugn_a by_o another_o lawful_a council_n and_o true_a pope_n but_o this_o then_o which_o the_o vulgar_a do_v not_o observe_v do_v concern_v not_o matter_n of_o faith_n and_o doctrine_n which_o never_o fuffer_v any_o alteration_n by_o pope_n or_o counsel_n but_o only_a matter_n of_o fact_n the_o sentence_n whereof_o though_o afore_o give_v may_v without_o any_o impeachment_n of_o the_o church_n authority_n upon_o better_a and_o late_a information_n be_v alter_v such_o be_v the_o alterable_a decree_n of_o the_o pope_n formosus_fw-la and_o stephanus_n the_o seven_o in_o their_o several_a counsel_n ground_v principal_o upon_o matter_n of_o fact_n &_o usual_o object_v by_o we_o against_o our_o adversary_n of_o which_o point_n see_v sigebert_n in_o his_o chronicle_n whereas_o our_o adversary_n as_o above_o be_v deliver_v show_v that_o many_o of_o our_o protestant_a doctrine_n be_v condemn_v for_o heresye_n by_o augustine_n hierem_fw-la epiphanius_n &_o other_o in_o those_o primitive_a time_n now_o we_o by_o way_n of_o recrimination_n do_v confident_o avouch_v the_o same_o of_o diverse_a catholic_a article_n to_o 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